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Ditched my he LG front loader last year (had for 7 years) for a Speed Queen (made in USA) top loader and magically, my clothes are clean! In half the time.Nope. They use lukewarm water with no agitation. Garbage.Operator error, pretty much 100% of the time.Those front load he washers are pretty cool. The only reason I don't like 'em is because they don't get my clothes clean.Yeah, they're not making them like that anymore.
If/when mine dies, I'm looking for an old one. Last one lasted 20+ years.
I am still using my old Kenmore...if it finally dies, I will probably get a HE front-loader. My mother has one, and it is superb.
I didn't even realize...
I guess this January the government , with their "efficiency" BS , made 14 SEER heating and air conditioning the minimum which can be sold in the U.S.
One of the manufacturers told us they are barley scraping by making 14 SEER equipment, if the government raises the minimum to 15 SEER (which I think they are already planning to do) then we're talking about high efficiency motors. In my area high efficiency motors average $1500.
The high efficiency equipment designers have a habit of placing several circuit boards into one system. circuit boards are $400 to $800. Many go out without any reason.
Like everything else, the government is going to save you 5 bucks on your monthly bill , but send the money back to the economy with high repair costs.
By-the-way, I heard something about a new refrigerant for cars, R1234 , currently selling for $1000 per jug
They don't care about costs as long as it serves their purpose.
Nobody knows this more than us in the transportation field.
During the Bush years, they forced the transportation industry to use low-sulfur fuel. Prior to that, diesel fuel was always cheaper than gasoline. After the regulation went into effect, diesel fuel surpassed the cost of gasoline; sometimes more than a dollar per gallon. But that wasn't enough.....
They also forced truck manufacturers to install thousands of dollars of "green" technologies into their vehicles. One in particular is Diesel Emission Fluid, or DEF for short. All trucks manufactured after 2010 had to have DEF systems on them. Makes you wonder how many EPA heads and Congress critters had investments in DEF companies?
But the costs of DEF and multiple computers in new trucks was just the beginning of new costs. Now, trucks breakdown ten times more often than they used to, 80% of the problems are associated with some pollution gadget going haywire.
Yes, we pay these costs up front, but who ultimately pays these costs in the end? That's right, we increase the cost of doing business to our customers who manufacture products we buy every day. From sofas to televisions, from computers to carpeting, from grapes in the grocery store to paint at your hardware store. Everything we buy today has these additional environmental costs that the transportation companies have to pass on to the rest of us.
Kinda like the Govt logic in Mandating low flow toilets that you have to flush twice. Or outlawing incandescents that actually were 100% efficient in the seasons where your HVAC was on Heat cycles. Because the "waste heat" from the bulbs reduced the demand on the HVAC..
I know. it's all BS
I didn't even realize...
I guess this January the government , with their "efficiency" BS , made 14 SEER heating and air conditioning the minimum which can be sold in the U.S.
One of the manufacturers told us they are barley scraping by making 14 SEER equipment, if the government raises the minimum to 15 SEER (which I think they are already planning to do) then we're talking about high efficiency motors. In my area high efficiency motors average $1500.
The high efficiency equipment designers have a habit of placing several circuit boards into one system. circuit boards are $400 to $800. Many go out without any reason.
Like everything else, the government is going to save you 5 bucks on your monthly bill , but send the money back to the economy with high repair costs.
By-the-way, I heard something about a new refrigerant for cars, R1234 , currently selling for $1000 per jug
All the 14-SEER units have too many electronics and circuit boards in them that fail long before mechanical parts do.
If the wrong one fails, the whole unit can be toast.
AC guys are not fans of 14-16 SEER units. A lot of times they have to call the manufacturer.
I didn't even realize...
I guess this January the government , with their "efficiency" BS , made 14 SEER heating and air conditioning the minimum which can be sold in the U.S.
One of the manufacturers told us they are barley scraping by making 14 SEER equipment, if the government raises the minimum to 15 SEER (which I think they are already planning to do) then we're talking about high efficiency motors. In my area high efficiency motors average $1500.
The high efficiency equipment designers have a habit of placing several circuit boards into one system. circuit boards are $400 to $800. Many go out without any reason.
Like everything else, the government is going to save you 5 bucks on your monthly bill , but send the money back to the economy with high repair costs.
By-the-way, I heard something about a new refrigerant for cars, R1234 , currently selling for $1000 per jug
They don't care about costs as long as it serves their purpose.
Nobody knows this more than us in the transportation field.
During the Bush years, they forced the transportation industry to use low-sulfur fuel. Prior to that, diesel fuel was always cheaper than gasoline. After the regulation went into effect, diesel fuel surpassed the cost of gasoline; sometimes more than a dollar per gallon. But that wasn't enough.....
They also forced truck manufacturers to install thousands of dollars of "green" technologies into their vehicles. One in particular is Diesel Emission Fluid, or DEF for short. All trucks manufactured after 2010 had to have DEF systems on them. Makes you wonder how many EPA heads and Congress critters had investments in DEF companies?
But the costs of DEF and multiple computers in new trucks was just the beginning of new costs. Now, trucks breakdown ten times more often than they used to, 80% of the problems are associated with some pollution gadget going haywire.
Yes, we pay these costs up front, but who ultimately pays these costs in the end? That's right, we increase the cost of doing business to our customers who manufacture products we buy every day. From sofas to televisions, from computers to carpeting, from grapes in the grocery store to paint at your hardware store. Everything we buy today has these additional environmental costs that the transportation companies have to pass on to the rest of us.
I operate a fleet (300) Ford and International trucks. I have yet to see any issues.
I own an equipment leasing company (6000 units) and the only issues are with Freightliners which have had issues for decades.
Fuel costs which are determined by the commodities market cost you much more than any environmental costs.
You can get an 850W solar system for about $10K. And there are many utility companies that will subsidize your install costs up to 50%. Payback time is about 8 years.
DDT would be an example of attempted conservative butchery in the third world.
Because of mass agricultural spraying, mosquitoes were becoming resistant to DDT. Liberals stopped that. Mosquitoes thus did not become resistant, DDT still worked against them for malaria control, and that's how liberals stopped millions of malaria deaths.
Butchers like Owebo have never forgiven us for that. Most conservatives feel the same. Most of them will proudly announce how they despise the liberal DDT policies that prevented those millions of malaria deaths. TheParty commands them to hate all liberal policies, especially the most successful ones.
Conservative PC ignorance of science and the environment is not harmless. It would kill millions, if given the chance. Given the choice between admitting they were wrong and killing millions, most conservatives would choose to kill millions.
Owebo, just how many millions dead would it take to slake your bloodlust?
Genetic mutations also cause immunity to pyrethroid's.
DDT is not used for mosquito control
so why do you say that killing hundreds of millions over all these years is a good thing?
OH....government mandated safety gas cans...ever try filling up your damn lawn mower or weed whacker with one of those spring loaded retarded things? Yeah guaranteed to spill gas all over the place.
Why wait? The sooner we get off fossil fuel, the better.
Them things suck. When My washer dies, I'll go down to the used appliance store and pick out the oldest one in the best shape I can find. My clothes get clean. I also have 2 taken-apart clothespins jammed into the ratchet system of the agitator.
Works great!
I would do that!Nope. They use lukewarm water with no agitation. Garbage.Operator error, pretty much 100% of the time.Those front load he washers are pretty cool. The only reason I don't like 'em is because they don't get my clothes clean.My 1972 Maytag washer/dryer set is chugging along fine. I've replaced the heating element in the dryer once, that's all.
Yeah, they're not making them like that anymore.
If/when mine dies, I'm looking for an old one. Last one lasted 20+ years.
I am still using my old Kenmore...if it finally dies, I will probably get a HE front-loader. My mother has one, and it is superb.
Nobody mentioned beer. ABS was never mentioned. Only you mentioned a self-serve car wash. I repeat: are you in the right thread?Naah, not for decades. Modern engines will start unaided at -25 or colder.
You're funny, just like modern anti-lock brakes work fine on icy roads.
Or that six pack of beer you forgot to bring in won't freeze.
Or that "hot water" self serve car wash won't freeze on contact with the surface of your car.
Modern ABS works well, though many older systems did not. Good beer will not freeze until below 15 degrees. Nobody mentioned a car wash. Are you in the right thread?
You were talking 25 below zero. Sorry but you have no clue.
You set the table at 25 below zero. I was just telling you what it's like at that temperature. Knowledge you are clearly lacking in.
None of those work for BASE LOAD.You can get an 850W solar system for about $10K. And there are many utility companies that will subsidize your install costs up to 50%. Payback time is about 8 years.All of which lack either power, reliability, or cost effectiveness.
Solar is very expensive and you depend on nice sunny days to get enough power to run your home. It's a bad investment that will never pay off. Same with wind. It's a very expensive investment and offers no real return. By the time you create enough electricity to break even on the investment, the thing breaks down and it's very costly to repair. And again, unreliable since it only works when it's windy, and if you have too much wind, it shuts down in effort to protect it from being damaged.
Electric cars? What's the point? It takes fossil fuels tho create the electricity to run it. If you need a charge overnight, and the power goes off, you are going to piss off your boss trying to explain why you can't get to work. If your car is low on electricity, and you end up sitting in a traffic jam for a couple of hours with the AC or heat blowing, your car is just going to stop working and you're going to need a tow.
Wind turbine set ups start at 2KW and cost anywhere from $10 - $70K. The approximate payback time is about 6 years.
Granted, the systems are still a little pricey, but once they reach their payback dates, you don't pay anymore utility bills, ever. Or your bills are very small, if the systems periodically go down from time to time. If you reduce your carbon footprint, that should be enough to meet your energy needs.
As far as cars, you can plan your route ahead of time and I doubt you would run out of power over night, unless there was a blackout, which don't happen all that often.
I'm curious, what prevents you from turning down the shower valve?
I never use full force when taking a shower. 90% of good clean water just goes down the drain. I keep the shower as low as possible and only turn it up when I rinse my hair. Water is expensive here, and I was telling my nephew how I would like to design a shower head that has an on/off chain. You don't need water running while you're soaping up or washing your hair, you only need it for rinsing.
That's been done.
Here you go: Shower Head,Water-Saver by LDR INDUSTRIES, INC | eBay
You push the tab back and forth to turn water on/off.
I didn't even realize...
I guess this January the government , with their "efficiency" BS , made 14 SEER heating and air conditioning the minimum which can be sold in the U.S.
One of the manufacturers told us they are barley scraping by making 14 SEER equipment, if the government raises the minimum to 15 SEER (which I think they are already planning to do) then we're talking about high efficiency motors. In my area high efficiency motors average $1500.
The high efficiency equipment designers have a habit of placing several circuit boards into one system. circuit boards are $400 to $800. Many go out without any reason.
Like everything else, the government is going to save you 5 bucks on your monthly bill , but send the money back to the economy with high repair costs.
By-the-way, I heard something about a new refrigerant for cars, R1234 , currently selling for $1000 per jug
They don't care about costs as long as it serves their purpose.
Nobody knows this more than us in the transportation field.
During the Bush years, they forced the transportation industry to use low-sulfur fuel. Prior to that, diesel fuel was always cheaper than gasoline. After the regulation went into effect, diesel fuel surpassed the cost of gasoline; sometimes more than a dollar per gallon. But that wasn't enough.....
They also forced truck manufacturers to install thousands of dollars of "green" technologies into their vehicles. One in particular is Diesel Emission Fluid, or DEF for short. All trucks manufactured after 2010 had to have DEF systems on them. Makes you wonder how many EPA heads and Congress critters had investments in DEF companies?
But the costs of DEF and multiple computers in new trucks was just the beginning of new costs. Now, trucks breakdown ten times more often than they used to, 80% of the problems are associated with some pollution gadget going haywire.
Yes, we pay these costs up front, but who ultimately pays these costs in the end? That's right, we increase the cost of doing business to our customers who manufacture products we buy every day. From sofas to televisions, from computers to carpeting, from grapes in the grocery store to paint at your hardware store. Everything we buy today has these additional environmental costs that the transportation companies have to pass on to the rest of us.
I operate a fleet (300) Ford and International trucks. I have yet to see any issues.
I own an equipment leasing company (6000 units) and the only issues are with Freightliners which have had issues for decades.
Fuel costs which are determined by the commodities market cost you much more than any environmental costs.
I didn't even realize...
I guess this January the government , with their "efficiency" BS , made 14 SEER heating and air conditioning the minimum which can be sold in the U.S.
One of the manufacturers told us they are barley scraping by making 14 SEER equipment, if the government raises the minimum to 15 SEER (which I think they are already planning to do) then we're talking about high efficiency motors. In my area high efficiency motors average $1500.
The high efficiency equipment designers have a habit of placing several circuit boards into one system. circuit boards are $400 to $800. Many go out without any reason.
Like everything else, the government is going to save you 5 bucks on your monthly bill , but send the money back to the economy with high repair costs.
By-the-way, I heard something about a new refrigerant for cars, R1234 , currently selling for $1000 per jug
They don't care about costs as long as it serves their purpose.
Nobody knows this more than us in the transportation field.
During the Bush years, they forced the transportation industry to use low-sulfur fuel. Prior to that, diesel fuel was always cheaper than gasoline. After the regulation went into effect, diesel fuel surpassed the cost of gasoline; sometimes more than a dollar per gallon. But that wasn't enough.....
They also forced truck manufacturers to install thousands of dollars of "green" technologies into their vehicles. One in particular is Diesel Emission Fluid, or DEF for short. All trucks manufactured after 2010 had to have DEF systems on them. Makes you wonder how many EPA heads and Congress critters had investments in DEF companies?
But the costs of DEF and multiple computers in new trucks was just the beginning of new costs. Now, trucks breakdown ten times more often than they used to, 80% of the problems are associated with some pollution gadget going haywire.
Yes, we pay these costs up front, but who ultimately pays these costs in the end? That's right, we increase the cost of doing business to our customers who manufacture products we buy every day. From sofas to televisions, from computers to carpeting, from grapes in the grocery store to paint at your hardware store. Everything we buy today has these additional environmental costs that the transportation companies have to pass on to the rest of us.
I operate a fleet (300) Ford and International trucks. I have yet to see any issues.
I own an equipment leasing company (6000 units) and the only issues are with Freightliners which have had issues for decades.
Fuel costs which are determined by the commodities market cost you much more than any environmental costs.
The list of things our resident trust-fund child does not understand is quite long.I didn't even realize...
I guess this January the government , with their "efficiency" BS , made 14 SEER heating and air conditioning the minimum which can be sold in the U.S.
One of the manufacturers told us they are barley scraping by making 14 SEER equipment, if the government raises the minimum to 15 SEER (which I think they are already planning to do) then we're talking about high efficiency motors. In my area high efficiency motors average $1500.
The high efficiency equipment designers have a habit of placing several circuit boards into one system. circuit boards are $400 to $800. Many go out without any reason.
Like everything else, the government is going to save you 5 bucks on your monthly bill , but send the money back to the economy with high repair costs.
By-the-way, I heard something about a new refrigerant for cars, R1234 , currently selling for $1000 per jug
They don't care about costs as long as it serves their purpose.
Nobody knows this more than us in the transportation field.
During the Bush years, they forced the transportation industry to use low-sulfur fuel. Prior to that, diesel fuel was always cheaper than gasoline. After the regulation went into effect, diesel fuel surpassed the cost of gasoline; sometimes more than a dollar per gallon. But that wasn't enough.....
They also forced truck manufacturers to install thousands of dollars of "green" technologies into their vehicles. One in particular is Diesel Emission Fluid, or DEF for short. All trucks manufactured after 2010 had to have DEF systems on them. Makes you wonder how many EPA heads and Congress critters had investments in DEF companies?
But the costs of DEF and multiple computers in new trucks was just the beginning of new costs. Now, trucks breakdown ten times more often than they used to, 80% of the problems are associated with some pollution gadget going haywire.
Yes, we pay these costs up front, but who ultimately pays these costs in the end? That's right, we increase the cost of doing business to our customers who manufacture products we buy every day. From sofas to televisions, from computers to carpeting, from grapes in the grocery store to paint at your hardware store. Everything we buy today has these additional environmental costs that the transportation companies have to pass on to the rest of us.
I operate a fleet (300) Ford and International trucks. I have yet to see any issues.
I own an equipment leasing company (6000 units) and the only issues are with Freightliners which have had issues for decades.
Fuel costs which are determined by the commodities market cost you much more than any environmental costs.
I don't think you realize just how much of the cost of a new vehicle, is tied directly to environmental requirement costs.
This is how you display you are so FOS. You are not a one-percent of anything. International trucks have the most problems staying away from tow trucks. They always were garbage, but much worse after they were forced to put in all this pollution BS. Freightliners stayed on the road forever before they had to put all the pollution stuff on theirs. Not only do they break down constantly, but over 80% of the time, it's because of some pollution gadget going haywire. To offset the thousands of dollars in additional environmental costs, they began installing cheaper parts in the truck. You can't sit in your mom's basement pretending you are wealthy and know something about this industry, you have to actually be in it.
Oh, and another thing you know nothing about. The commodity market has always set the price of fuel. Do you think this all started a few years ago? The commodities market doesn't "cost" you anything. The commodities market was created (and is used for) price stabilization.
You can't bring a knife to a gun fight. I've been driving trucks for nearly 30 years now and my current company uses Freightliner and International trucks. I also traded commodities for several years as well.
Nobody mentioned beer. ABS was never mentioned. Only you mentioned a self-serve car wash. I repeat: are you in the right thread?You're funny, just like modern anti-lock brakes work fine on icy roads.
Or that six pack of beer you forgot to bring in won't freeze.
Or that "hot water" self serve car wash won't freeze on contact with the surface of your car.
Modern ABS works well, though many older systems did not. Good beer will not freeze until below 15 degrees. Nobody mentioned a car wash. Are you in the right thread?
You were talking 25 below zero. Sorry but you have no clue.
You set the table at 25 below zero. I was just telling you what it's like at that temperature. Knowledge you are clearly lacking in.
Actually (sound of hanging curve being launched into the Monster Seats) I have started engines at that temperature. Several cars, no block heaters used: turn the key. They started. Old pickup with a Holley carb: pump once, push in clutch, crank engine, pump again while cranking. It started, sputtered a few times, then stayed running. Diesel pickup: cycle glow plugs three times, push clutch, turn key. It started after about ten seconds of cranking...sputtered & smoked for maybe 30 seconds, but stayed running. I fired up an old Detroit Diesel at 13 below zero about ten years ago...half-second shot of ether, press the starter button...it cranked over a few times, and fired.
Modern vehicles will start unaided at -25 with no drama. (Indeed, most will start colder than that...I recall GM tests to -45.) If yours will not, something is wrong with it!
