Zone1 Heaven VS Hell! Where does that leave us?

[The Irish Ram]

If Jesus floated, it means he wasn't bound by gravity. Natural vs. Spiritual. Your entire premise is wrong right out of the gate. Spiritual is not the same as natural.

 

[Michigan Swampbuck]

If Jesus floated, it means he wasn't bound by gravity. Natural vs. Spiritual. Your entire premise is wrong right out of the gate. Spiritual is not the same as natural.

Sure. Thanks. You're absolutely correct, I'm wrong from day one and you are entirely right. I guess I don't have to make any more comments as you got that covered.

Boy is that ever a load off my mind to know how wrong I am, and you're not even my old lady.

Well, glad to know you, have a nice day

 

[The Irish Ram]

Sure. Thanks. You're absolutely correct, I'm wrong from day one and you are entirely right. I guess I don't have to make any more comments as you got that covered.

Boy is that ever a load off my mind to know how wrong I am, and you're not even my old lady.

Well, glad to know you, have a nice day

Good. Glad we got that settled!

 

[Michigan Swampbuck]

I am making a comment . . .
If God and the heaven world are perfect and the opposite of our mortal existence, it sure makes life on Earth look like a living hell to me. With no real proof of life after death or the existence of an eternal soul, we are just meat-puppets if looked at from a materialistic perspective.

Suppose for a moment that God never allowed such a curse as mortal existence to befall his beloved children. What if suffering is not necessary to grow, learn, and evolve spiritually? If either of these are valid possibilities then how could I possibly see my suffering as loving and benevolent? It sounds like a controlling, sadistic, and abusive relationship. Then we have the Eucharist, the cannibalistic consumption of Christ's flesh and blood, and his crucifixion with the whipping and all. Man that is some evil fetish that is supposed to get me into heaven.