Here is the question atheists can't answer...

[Wyatt earp]

Unless they have a personal relationship they will never understand

I used to believe I had a personal relationship with God. Then I realized there is no God. But that's OK. I'd rather know the truth and appreciate every day. So lucky we were born. And hopefully lived a good life

You weren't "lucky" to be born. You were born because God created you, and placed you in your mother's womb, and he has given you all the good things in this life that you enjoy. There is no "luck" involved.

Why did one get miscarriaged, one get aborted, one was retarded and one got cancer? He created that?

God gave us a perfect world where none of those things would have happened. We disobeyed him, and sin entered the world. Because of our sin, we now live in a world plagued by war, famine, poverty, illness, and all manner of bad things happen to innocent people. Every time we sin, we make this world worse. Every time we obey God, and keep his commandments, we make the world better. If you want a better world, then believe in God and keep his commandments. Also, you can pray. Prayer changes things.

Actually praying does nothing outside placebo. Two hands doing better than 1000 praying.

And if God would just reveal himself once and not on a piece of toast. Do something only a God could do. Do away with Isis. Have the desert turn to quicksand

I really get what you are saying my friend I really do..



Beacause I have the same questions


But then I evaluate my own life..

And think to myself " how did I do It?"

 

[Wyatt earp]

God doesn't "send" people anywhere, they choose for themselves where they want to go after they die.

If you choose in this life to be with God, then after death your choice to be with God will be honored for all eternity.

If you choose in this life to reject God, then after death your choice to reject God will be honored for all eternity.

But I am good, if Jesus died on the cross to save sinners..


Why can't I talk to God and take the place of misinformed non believers in hell?

Because you can't, and stop saying you will. All you're doing is confusing people.

How am I confusing people?

I am not dead yet...

 

[sealybobo]

I used to believe I had a personal relationship with God. Then I realized there is no God. But that's OK. I'd rather know the truth and appreciate every day. So lucky we were born. And hopefully lived a good life

You weren't "lucky" to be born. You were born because God created you, and placed you in your mother's womb, and he has given you all the good things in this life that you enjoy. There is no "luck" involved.

Why did one get miscarriaged, one get aborted, one was retarded and one got cancer? He created that?

God gave us a perfect world where none of those things would have happened. We disobeyed him, and sin entered the world. Because of our sin, we now live in a world plagued by war, famine, poverty, illness, and all manner of bad things happen to innocent people. Every time we sin, we make this world worse. Every time we obey God, and keep his commandments, we make the world better. If you want a better world, then believe in God and keep his commandments. Also, you can pray. Prayer changes things.

Actually praying does nothing outside placebo. Two hands doing better than 1000 praying.

And if God would just reveal himself once and not on a piece of toast. Do something only a God could do. Do away with Isis. Have the desert turn to quicksand

God sent his only Son into the world as an infant, and as a man he healed the sick, gave sight to the blind, cured the lepers, fed the multitude, walked on water, controlled the storms, cast out demons, turned water into wine, raised the dead, and as a grand finale he was crucified, died for our sins, and rose again on the third day and walked the Earth in front of witnesses.

And yet, after all this has happened, you demand more signs and wonders!!!

The ultimate martyr. Sounds like the story has been eggaggerated over time just a bit.

Jews apparently witnessed this and even they don't believe. Why should I if they don't?

 

[Montrovant]

If God is the creator, he took a billion years to decide what he wanted to create. He made a lot of mistakes and slowly worked out which creatures would survive and which would become extinct.

If man was created in his image, God waited billions of years to decide what that image would be

God exists outside time and space. He is simultaneously existing at the creation of the universe, and at the end of the universe, and all points between.

Do you believe in an eternal Hell? Would that mean God created me knowing I would not believe in him and would end up in Hell for eternity? Lovely fellow.

Even without a hell, if God knows the past, present, and future, and he created me as I am, and he is in control of what happens in my life, then he created me to be a person who would not believe.

Oh, and that would also mean there is no free will, what I've always been told is a basic underpinning of Christianity. How can there be choice if God knows what happens?

 

[sealybobo]

Yes. I don't "believe" anything. We either know something or we don't. Do I BELIEVE there is other life out there? Yes I do. But I don't have faith there is. At least not enough to base my entire existence on it.

You say you don't believe anything and almost immediately follow it up by saying you believe something.

Did you mean to say you don't have faith in anything at the beginning?

Put it this way. Gone are the days where it's assumed everyone believes Jesus was the son of God. In fact you should know out if ten people maybe 2-5 believe Jesus was literally the son of God.

Some people believe in generic God. I went from Christian to theist to an agnostic atheist. I really truly don't believe there is a creator in the conventional sense. Logic tells me man made it up.

But my position can only matter if you believe in the Christian God. If all you believe in is a generic creator and you understand religions are made up, then it doesn't matter if I believe. And then what makes you think a heaven exists?

And no Christian that truly believes should ever get mad. They should only feel sorry for non believers

You can believe God is man made up..

I really don't care..

I have a feeling were both going to die around the same time, because were around the same age..

I will vouch to God you are an ok guy. Silly boo boo..

Let me see what I can do to save your soul from the internal gates of hell.

Maybe God when I meet him would see it my way and you really are ok...and worth it to join us in heaven..

You think a God would reward intelligence

Your not that very street smarts math smarts, economic smarts or political smarts

But you are honest ..and sometimes just don't know..

Hell I don't know everything and admit like you when I don't have a clue about a subject...

It's a promise pal, I pinky swear..if you want to go the rest of your life saying there is no God..


I will tell God to send me to hell instead of you..

Just the way I am.

I'm very Street smart and a genius when it comes to politics omg what are you talking about? Lol

 

[Vastator]

Your not that very street smarts math smarts, economic smarts or political smarts

But you are honest ..and sometimes just don't know..

Hell I don't know everything and admit like you when I don't have a clue about a subject...

It's a promise pal, I pinky swear..if you want to go the rest of your life saying there is no God..


I will tell God to send me to hell instead of you..

Just the way I am.

In fact I make this promise to any atheist on here..

Go ahead and deny God here on earth. Spread the denial of God, Jesus, holy spirit and mother Mary..

Go ahead..

But if you meet me at the gates of heaven I will stand up for you and just tell God you were indoctrinated..

And I will plead God for me to take your place in hell and you take my place in heaven..


Just the way I am and how strongly I feel about God.

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So the Baal cult has an inside track with this god you hope exists?

What cullt and what hope?

I just know..

Again I am willing to reason with god and beg him to save your soul.

I will take any atheist place in hell to prove I am right.

That's how strongly I feel about God, Jesus, holy ghost and mother Mary..

I have already lived on earth, been to jail..what's the worse the devil can give me?

Big fucking deal.physical pain don't hurt a guy like me..

Bit you atheist not knowing and ignoring ...

That's the worst torture of all..when you can see God exists every day if you are paying attention..

The Baal cult. You know? the religion your modern faith was predicated on. Same story. New audience...

What are you 13 years old?

Scoot away child adults are talking here

The truth bothers you I see...

 

[Blackrook]

God doesn't "send" people anywhere, they choose for themselves where they want to go after they die.

If you choose in this life to be with God, then after death your choice to be with God will be honored for all eternity.

If you choose in this life to reject God, then after death your choice to reject God will be honored for all eternity.

But I am good, if Jesus died on the cross to save sinners..


Why can't I talk to God and take the place of misinformed non believers in hell?

Because you can't, and stop saying you will. All you're doing is confusing people.

How am I confusing people?

I am not dead yet...

If God is the creator, he took a billion years to decide what he wanted to create. He made a lot of mistakes and slowly worked out which creatures would survive and which would become extinct.

If man was created in his image, God waited billions of years to decide what that image would be

God exists outside time and space. He is simultaneously existing at the creation of the universe, and at the end of the universe, and all points between.

Do you believe in an eternal Hell? Would that mean God created me knowing I would not believe in him and would end up in Hell for eternity? Lovely fellow.

Even without a hell, if God knows the past, present, and future, and he created me as I am, and he is in control of what happens in my life, then he created me to be a person who would not believe.

Oh, and that would also mean there is no free will, what I've always been told is a basic underpinning of Christianity. How can there be choice if God knows what happens?

You have a choice whether to have faith in God and you know it. I'm not going to be drawn into a sophomoric discussion about pre-destination.

 

[sealybobo]

I could never figure out why a person would submit themselves, to a faith predicated on them being punished for something they themselves didn't do. And founded on the notion that they are irredeemably flawed...

The only thing that makes sense is why people buy into it. Cognitive dissonance

 

[sealybobo]

God is the only answer...

Unless they have a personal relationship they will never understand

Unless I too one time thought I had a personal relationship with this God everyone believes in and then realized I was just comforting myself. Google George Carlin greatest bs story ever told

If George Carlin could come back from where he is now, he would tell you a different story. But it's too late for him. Not too late for you.

Us athiests don't lay in our death beds or our loved ones hoping for heaven or worrying about hell.

They told me the Greek Orthodox won't do your service if you get cremated I told my family to cremate me anyways. Im not in the least bit worried that your stories are real.

Same way if I tried to convert you to Mormon or Islam. Would I have a chance? So you are an athiest too. I just believe in one less God than you.

When you are actually on your deathbed, we can talk about it then.

I'll say please leave I want to be with my loveones

 

[Vastator]

I used to believe I had a personal relationship with God. Then I realized there is no God. But that's OK. I'd rather know the truth and appreciate every day. So lucky we were born. And hopefully lived a good life

You weren't "lucky" to be born. You were born because God created you, and placed you in your mother's womb, and he has given you all the good things in this life that you enjoy. There is no "luck" involved.

Why did one get miscarriaged, one get aborted, one was retarded and one got cancer? He created that?

God gave us a perfect world where none of those things would have happened. We disobeyed him, and sin entered the world. Because of our sin, we now live in a world plagued by war, famine, poverty, illness, and all manner of bad things happen to innocent people. Every time we sin, we make this world worse. Every time we obey God, and keep his commandments, we make the world better. If you want a better world, then believe in God and keep his commandments. Also, you can pray. Prayer changes things.

Actually praying does nothing outside placebo. Two hands doing better than 1000 praying.

And if God would just reveal himself once and not on a piece of toast. Do something only a God could do. Do away with Isis. Have the desert turn to quicksand

God sent his only Son into the world as an infant, and as a man he healed the sick, gave sight to the blind, cured the lepers, fed the multitude, walked on water, controlled the storms, cast out demons, turned water into wine, raised the dead, and as a grand finale he was crucified, died for our sins, and rose again on the third day and walked the Earth in front of witnesses.

And yet, after all this has happened, you demand more signs and wonders!!!

Yeah... Like that was some noble sacrifice... He goes on a 3 day holiday to "hell". And that makes everything better. By the way the rest of you will go there for an eternity... What a joke.

 

[sealybobo]

God doesn't "send" people anywhere, they choose for themselves where they want to go after they die.

If you choose in this life to be with God, then after death your choice to be with God will be honored for all eternity.

If you choose in this life to reject God, then after death your choice to reject God will be honored for all eternity.

Then don't cry about Isis burning someone to death. If he's a Christian he'll go to heaven in 5 minutes but if he's not a Christian he'll just keep on burning for eternity

 

[Blackrook]

You weren't "lucky" to be born. You were born because God created you, and placed you in your mother's womb, and he has given you all the good things in this life that you enjoy. There is no "luck" involved.

Why did one get miscarriaged, one get aborted, one was retarded and one got cancer? He created that?

God gave us a perfect world where none of those things would have happened. We disobeyed him, and sin entered the world. Because of our sin, we now live in a world plagued by war, famine, poverty, illness, and all manner of bad things happen to innocent people. Every time we sin, we make this world worse. Every time we obey God, and keep his commandments, we make the world better. If you want a better world, then believe in God and keep his commandments. Also, you can pray. Prayer changes things.

Actually praying does nothing outside placebo. Two hands doing better than 1000 praying.

And if God would just reveal himself once and not on a piece of toast. Do something only a God could do. Do away with Isis. Have the desert turn to quicksand

God sent his only Son into the world as an infant, and as a man he healed the sick, gave sight to the blind, cured the lepers, fed the multitude, walked on water, controlled the storms, cast out demons, turned water into wine, raised the dead, and as a grand finale he was crucified, died for our sins, and rose again on the third day and walked the Earth in front of witnesses.

And yet, after all this has happened, you demand more signs and wonders!!!

The ultimate martyr. Sounds like the story has been eggaggerated over time just a bit.

Jews apparently witnessed this and even they don't believe. Why should I if they don't?

Because the Jews are wrong. They ignore their own prophesies when they reject Jesus of Nazareth as the Messiah.

How Christ Fulfilled the Prophecies of Scripture

 

[Blackrook]

God doesn't "send" people anywhere, they choose for themselves where they want to go after they die.

If you choose in this life to be with God, then after death your choice to be with God will be honored for all eternity.

If you choose in this life to reject God, then after death your choice to reject God will be honored for all eternity.

Then don't cry about Isis burning someone to death. If he's a Christian he'll go to heaven in 5 minutes but if he's not a Christian he'll just keep on burning for eternity

You're not even engaging in a good faith discussion. Perhaps I'm wasting my time with you.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Imagine how much nicer people would be if God just killed every nazi or overy member of Isis.

Do you think bush would have lied us into Iraq if God killed for doing that? Would Saddam have been a murderer if God took out murderers?

Would it be so bad if God put food in poor peoples homes? Wouldn't him getting involved every once in a while make this a much better place?

Maybe he could stop tornadoes and flooding that kills. Stop cancer aids Alzheimer's

Do something every once in a while!

See..

You really do have a good heart and you are worth trying to convince..

Again pal I always question stuff as much as you.

I won't use God's will as a response to you since you lost your mom..

I know how it feels...

 

[Wyatt earp]

God doesn't "send" people anywhere, they choose for themselves where they want to go after they die.

If you choose in this life to be with God, then after death your choice to be with God will be honored for all eternity.

If you choose in this life to reject God, then after death your choice to reject God will be honored for all eternity.

Then don't cry about Isis burning someone to death. If he's a Christian he'll go to heaven in 5 minutes but if he's not a Christian he'll just keep on burning for eternity

You're not even engaging in a good faith discussion. Perhaps I'm wasting my time with you.

Seriously he is worth it..



.

 

[Vastator]

Why did one get miscarriaged, one get aborted, one was retarded and one got cancer? He created that?

God gave us a perfect world where none of those things would have happened. We disobeyed him, and sin entered the world. Because of our sin, we now live in a world plagued by war, famine, poverty, illness, and all manner of bad things happen to innocent people. Every time we sin, we make this world worse. Every time we obey God, and keep his commandments, we make the world better. If you want a better world, then believe in God and keep his commandments. Also, you can pray. Prayer changes things.

Actually praying does nothing outside placebo. Two hands doing better than 1000 praying.

And if God would just reveal himself once and not on a piece of toast. Do something only a God could do. Do away with Isis. Have the desert turn to quicksand

God sent his only Son into the world as an infant, and as a man he healed the sick, gave sight to the blind, cured the lepers, fed the multitude, walked on water, controlled the storms, cast out demons, turned water into wine, raised the dead, and as a grand finale he was crucified, died for our sins, and rose again on the third day and walked the Earth in front of witnesses.

And yet, after all this has happened, you demand more signs and wonders!!!

The ultimate martyr. Sounds like the story has been eggaggerated over time just a bit.

Jews apparently witnessed this and even they don't believe. Why should I if they don't?

Because the Jews are wrong. They ignore their own prophesies when they reject Jesus of Nazareth as the Messiah.

How Christ Fulfilled the Prophecies of Scripture

He didn't fulfill all the prophesies. Plenty enough reason not to believe.

 

[Blackrook]

God gave us a perfect world where none of those things would have happened. We disobeyed him, and sin entered the world. Because of our sin, we now live in a world plagued by war, famine, poverty, illness, and all manner of bad things happen to innocent people. Every time we sin, we make this world worse. Every time we obey God, and keep his commandments, we make the world better. If you want a better world, then believe in God and keep his commandments. Also, you can pray. Prayer changes things.

Actually praying does nothing outside placebo. Two hands doing better than 1000 praying.

And if God would just reveal himself once and not on a piece of toast. Do something only a God could do. Do away with Isis. Have the desert turn to quicksand

God sent his only Son into the world as an infant, and as a man he healed the sick, gave sight to the blind, cured the lepers, fed the multitude, walked on water, controlled the storms, cast out demons, turned water into wine, raised the dead, and as a grand finale he was crucified, died for our sins, and rose again on the third day and walked the Earth in front of witnesses.

And yet, after all this has happened, you demand more signs and wonders!!!

The ultimate martyr. Sounds like the story has been eggaggerated over time just a bit.

Jews apparently witnessed this and even they don't believe. Why should I if they don't?

Because the Jews are wrong. They ignore their own prophesies when they reject Jesus of Nazareth as the Messiah.

How Christ Fulfilled the Prophecies of Scripture

He didn't fulfill all the prophesies. Plenty enough reason not to believe.

Did you even go to the link and read it?

 

[Vastator]

God doesn't "send" people anywhere, they choose for themselves where they want to go after they die.

If you choose in this life to be with God, then after death your choice to be with God will be honored for all eternity.

If you choose in this life to reject God, then after death your choice to reject God will be honored for all eternity.

Then don't cry about Isis burning someone to death. If he's a Christian he'll go to heaven in 5 minutes but if he's not a Christian he'll just keep on burning for eternity

You're not even engaging in a good faith discussion. Perhaps I'm wasting my time with you.

Or perhaps you are wasting your time clinging to your ancient Baal cult... You know the worst part about what you cultists do is? You cheapen life. Life is truly wonderful. Yet y'all run around trying to convince everyone that the world is an awful place. That life sucks. That they are flawed. But if you just join my cult everything will be better when you die. It's really fucking twisted.

 

[Vastator]

Didn't beat the swords into plowshares... Yeah. Yeah. Yeah... I know... He'll do that next time. Real creative excuse there.

 

[Wyatt earp]

God gave us a perfect world where none of those things would have happened. We disobeyed him, and sin entered the world. Because of our sin, we now live in a world plagued by war, famine, poverty, illness, and all manner of bad things happen to innocent people. Every time we sin, we make this world worse. Every time we obey God, and keep his commandments, we make the world better. If you want a better world, then believe in God and keep his commandments. Also, you can pray. Prayer changes things.

Actually praying does nothing outside placebo. Two hands doing better than 1000 praying.

And if God would just reveal himself once and not on a piece of toast. Do something only a God could do. Do away with Isis. Have the desert turn to quicksand

God sent his only Son into the world as an infant, and as a man he healed the sick, gave sight to the blind, cured the lepers, fed the multitude, walked on water, controlled the storms, cast out demons, turned water into wine, raised the dead, and as a grand finale he was crucified, died for our sins, and rose again on the third day and walked the Earth in front of witnesses.

And yet, after all this has happened, you demand more signs and wonders!!!

The ultimate martyr. Sounds like the story has been eggaggerated over time just a bit.

Jews apparently witnessed this and even they don't believe. Why should I if they don't?

Because the Jews are wrong. They ignore their own prophesies when they reject Jesus of Nazareth as the Messiah.

How Christ Fulfilled the Prophecies of Scripture

He didn't fulfill all the prophesies. Plenty enough reason not to believe.

You have not seen nothing yet


And I dare you to say to me ...that nothing in the bible has a bunch of historical in accurate n in it..
It has Been confirmed..

Try me