Hillary says NRA needs a "rival" organization of responsible gun owners

[Kondor3]

Nope.There are lots of us ex-NRA members who want nothing more than reasonable controls on who gets guns. Gun owners are not the problem. Gun nuts are.

We already have reasonable restrictions.

Felons can't buy guns
The adjudicated mentally ill can't buy guns
Automatic weapons are highly restricted

What we need is enforcement of these restrictions and stiff mandatory sentences for any crime involving firearms

What we need is universal background checks so individuals will know if they are selling a gun to a felon, or mentally ill person.

Each state already has background checks.

Force a Federal standard and feed it to a Federal database for compliance auditing.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Nope.There are lots of us ex-NRA members who want nothing more than reasonable controls on who gets guns. Gun owners are not the problem. Gun nuts are.

We already have reasonable restrictions.

Felons can't buy guns
The adjudicated mentally ill can't buy guns
Automatic weapons are highly restricted

What we need is enforcement of these restrictions and stiff mandatory sentences for any crime involving firearms

What we need is universal background checks so individuals will know if they are selling a gun to a felon, or mentally ill person.

Each state already has background checks.

Force a Federal standard and feed it to a Federal database for compliance auditing.

The fed doesn't need to know who owns or doesn't own.

 

[jon_berzerk]

Nope.There are lots of us ex-NRA members who want nothing more than reasonable controls on who gets guns. Gun owners are not the problem. Gun nuts are.

We already have reasonable restrictions.

Felons can't buy guns
The adjudicated mentally ill can't buy guns
Automatic weapons are highly restricted

What we need is enforcement of these restrictions and stiff mandatory sentences for any crime involving firearms

What we need is universal background checks so individuals will know if they are selling a gun to a felon, or mentally ill person.

Each state already has background checks.

Force a Federal standard and feed it to a Federal database for compliance auditing.

we do have a federal background check

 

[Cellblock2429]

I agree! She said this in an interview with Chris Matthews on MSNBC earlier this evening. I was an NRA member and strong supporter for several years - until it was hijacked by radicals in 1977. I would like to see a "rival" organization like the NRA was before it was hijacked by radicals.

How NRA’s true believers converted a marksmanship group into a mighty gun lobby

In gun lore it’s known as the Revolt at Cincinnati. On May 21, 1977, and into the morning of May 22, a rump caucus of gun rights radicals took over the annual meeting of the National Rifle Association.

The rebels wore orange-blaze hunting caps. They spoke on walkie-talkies as they worked the floor of the sweltering convention hall. They suspected that the NRA leaders had turned off the air-conditioning in hopes that the rabble-rousers would lose enthusiasm.

The Old Guard was caught by surprise. The NRA officers sat up front, on a dais, observing their demise. The organization, about a century old already, was thoroughly mainstream and bipartisan, focusing on hunting, conservation and marksmanship. It taught Boy Scouts how to shoot safely. But the world had changed, and everything was more political now. The rebels saw the NRA leaders as elites who lacked the heart and conviction to fight against gun-control legislation.

Much More: How NRA’s true believers converted a marksmanship group into a mighty gun lobby

/----/ They already have it. It's called the Democratic Party.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

See: The News Is Unwatchable

What other Constitutional rights should we lose? We're already living in a Surveillance state not even Orwell could imagine.

NYC is installing facial recognition towers throughout the city, what a great time to disarm citizens. A Perfect Storm of Fascism

 

[jon_berzerk]

See: The News Is Unwatchable

What other Constitutional rights should we lose? We're already living in a Surveillance state not even Orwell could imagine.

NYC is installing facial recognition towers throughout the city, what a great time to disarm citizens. A Perfect Storm of Fascism

in times like this the right to self defense

is of the utmost importance

 

[NYcarbineer]

Add you to the list of people who believe that special interest lobbyists should run America.

Since when is defending a guaranteed right a special interest?

Felons don't have the right to buy guns.

No, not legally anyway. BUT they can certainly find some illegal guns faster than the average citizen.

I can legally sell a gun to a felon.

No you can't. If you do, you've just committed a felony.

Nope.There are lots of us ex-NRA members who want nothing more than reasonable controls on who gets guns. Gun owners are not the problem. Gun nuts are.

We already have reasonable restrictions.

Felons can't buy guns
The adjudicated mentally ill can't buy guns
Automatic weapons are highly restricted

What we need is enforcement of these restrictions and stiff mandatory sentences for any crime involving firearms

What we need is universal background checks so individuals will know if they are selling a gun to a felon, or mentally ill person.

Each state already has background checks.

Force a Federal standard and feed it to a Federal database for compliance auditing.

we do have a federal background check

That doesn't apply to private sales.

 

[jon_berzerk]

Since when is defending a guaranteed right a special interest?

Felons don't have the right to buy guns.

No, not legally anyway. BUT they can certainly find some illegal guns faster than the average citizen.

I can legally sell a gun to a felon.

No you can't. If you do, you've just committed a felony.

We already have reasonable restrictions.

Felons can't buy guns
The adjudicated mentally ill can't buy guns
Automatic weapons are highly restricted

What we need is enforcement of these restrictions and stiff mandatory sentences for any crime involving firearms

What we need is universal background checks so individuals will know if they are selling a gun to a felon, or mentally ill person.

Each state already has background checks.

Force a Federal standard and feed it to a Federal database for compliance auditing.

we do have a federal background check

That doesn't apply to private sales.

it is still against the law for a felon to buy a firearm

from either a dealer or a private sale

 

[Skull Pilot]

The Left has actually tried this numerous times. It always fails. Because the NRA represents responsible gun owners.
The Left is terrified of them because they are the most effective lobby in Washington.

Add you to the list of people who believe that special interest lobbyists should run America.

Since when is defending a guaranteed right a special interest?

Felons don't have the right to buy guns.

Which was removed via due process.
Felons can't vote or get securities licenses either.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Add you to the list of people who believe that special interest lobbyists should run America.

Since when is defending a guaranteed right a special interest?

Felons don't have the right to buy guns.

No, not legally anyway. BUT they can certainly find some illegal guns faster than the average citizen.

I can legally sell a gun to a felon.

No you can't. If you do, you've just committed a felony.

Not if he doesn't know the buyer is a felon, and in many places, he doesn't have to determine that.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Felons don't have the right to buy guns.

No, not legally anyway. BUT they can certainly find some illegal guns faster than the average citizen.

I can legally sell a gun to a felon.

No you can't. If you do, you've just committed a felony.

What we need is universal background checks so individuals will know if they are selling a gun to a felon, or mentally ill person.

Each state already has background checks.

Force a Federal standard and feed it to a Federal database for compliance auditing.

we do have a federal background check

That doesn't apply to private sales.

it is still against the law for a felon to buy a firearm

from either a dealer or a private sale

The point of the background check is to prevent the sale.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Nope.There are lots of us ex-NRA members who want nothing more than reasonable controls on who gets guns. Gun owners are not the problem. Gun nuts are.

We already have reasonable restrictions.

Felons can't buy guns
The adjudicated mentally ill can't buy guns
Automatic weapons are highly restricted

What we need is enforcement of these restrictions and stiff mandatory sentences for any crime involving firearms

What we need is universal background checks so individuals will know if they are selling a gun to a felon, or mentally ill person.

You do know that it is illegal in most if not all states to sell a gun to anyone legally ineligible don't you?

And in all honesty private sales and transfers are not where most illegally obtained guns come from

 

[Geaux4it]

Since when is defending a guaranteed right a special interest?

Felons don't have the right to buy guns.

No, not legally anyway. BUT they can certainly find some illegal guns faster than the average citizen.

I can legally sell a gun to a felon.

No you can't. If you do, you've just committed a felony.

We already have reasonable restrictions.

Felons can't buy guns
The adjudicated mentally ill can't buy guns
Automatic weapons are highly restricted

What we need is enforcement of these restrictions and stiff mandatory sentences for any crime involving firearms

What we need is universal background checks so individuals will know if they are selling a gun to a felon, or mentally ill person.

Each state already has background checks.

Force a Federal standard and feed it to a Federal database for compliance auditing.

we do have a federal background check

That doesn't apply to private sales.

Yes it does. States like California, and there are likely others, prohibit private gun sales without a BG check. Quit spreading false information

-Geaux

 

[Skull Pilot]

The Left has actually tried this numerous times. It always fails. Because the NRA represents responsible gun owners.
The Left is terrified of them because they are the most effective lobby in Washington.

Add you to the list of people who believe that special interest lobbyists should run America.

Since when is defending a guaranteed right a special interest?

Felons don't have the right to buy guns.

No, not legally anyway. BUT they can certainly find some illegal guns faster than the average citizen.

I can legally sell a gun to a felon.

No you can't.

if you do you have broken the law

 

[Skull Pilot]

Since when is defending a guaranteed right a special interest?

Felons don't have the right to buy guns.

No, not legally anyway. BUT they can certainly find some illegal guns faster than the average citizen.

I can legally sell a gun to a felon.

No you can't. If you do, you've just committed a felony.

Not if he doesn't know the buyer is a felon, and in many places, he doesn't have to determine that.

in many states whether the seller knows it or not it is still illegal.

look up the private sales laws and you'll see that.

 

[Geaux4it]

NYcarbineer Nine states (California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Nevada, New York, Oregon, Rhode Island, Washington) and DC require universal background checks at the point of sale for all transfers of all classes of firearms, including purchases from unlicensed sellers; Maryland andPennsylvania do the same for handgun ...

 

[NYcarbineer]

NYcarbineer Nine states (California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Nevada, New York, Oregon, Rhode Island, Washington) and DC require universal background checks at the point of sale for all transfers of all classes of firearms, including purchases from unlicensed sellers; Maryland andPennsylvania do the same for handgun ...

That is evidence that the background check loophole still exists in many other states. Hence the need for the federal law.

 

[jon_berzerk]

The Left has actually tried this numerous times. It always fails. Because the NRA represents responsible gun owners.
The Left is terrified of them because they are the most effective lobby in Washington.

Add you to the list of people who believe that special interest lobbyists should run America.

Since when is defending a guaranteed right a special interest?

Felons don't have the right to buy guns.

Which was removed via due process.
Felons can't vote or get securities licenses either.

or certain jobs for that matter

once again all after due process

 

[jon_berzerk]

Felons don't have the right to buy guns.

No, not legally anyway. BUT they can certainly find some illegal guns faster than the average citizen.

I can legally sell a gun to a felon.

No you can't. If you do, you've just committed a felony.

What we need is universal background checks so individuals will know if they are selling a gun to a felon, or mentally ill person.

Each state already has background checks.

Force a Federal standard and feed it to a Federal database for compliance auditing.

we do have a federal background check

That doesn't apply to private sales.

Yes it does. States like California, and there are likely others, prohibit private gun sales without a BG check. Quit spreading false information

-Geaux

good point

by nature leftards lie

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Since when is defending a guaranteed right a special interest?

Felons don't have the right to buy guns.

No, not legally anyway. BUT they can certainly find some illegal guns faster than the average citizen.

I can legally sell a gun to a felon.

No you can't. If you do, you've just committed a felony.

Not if he doesn't know the buyer is a felon, and in many places, he doesn't have to determine that.

If the seller sold a firearm to a felon, he just committed an illegal act. Both parties just committed a felony. If that felon committed a crime with that gun, the seller of that gun is liable and accountable. Personally, I would never sell a gun without a bill of sale.