Hmmm....girl shot in London...but they don't have the 2nd Amendment there....

[Vagabond63]

You think you have improved, but you have imported violent, 3rd world males from war torn countries ....

Gosh, 28,000 refugees of both sexes from war torn countries, in a population of over 65,000,000. Wow, yeah, right, whatever. https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/sn01403/

 

[Vagabond63]

isn't the same as the violent monster grabbing them at the tube station....

Doesn't happen that often in the UK, compared, perhaps with America.

 

[Open Bolt]

We don't give guns away like confetti; anyone in Europe who wants a gun has to have good reason, be trained in its use and safety, apply for a license and store the gun securely when not in use.

People in Switzerland are assumed to be buying their guns for a good reason and are not required to provide a reason.

Some countries allow "self defence" as a reason, but the applicant must be able to demonstrate they are in much greater danger than the general population, to get a licence for that reason.

There is no such requirement in the Czech Republic and in the three Baltic states. If a person there wants to carry a gun for self defense, all they have to do is go pass a background check and demonstrate that they are competent to handle guns.

Finland does not allow personal self defense as a reason for private gun ownership. But they do allow national defense as a reason for private gun ownership -- something to do with a particularly hostile country on their border.

The last person to try to force the Swiss to do anything they didn't want to do, was Charles the Bold, Duke of Burgundy in the 15th century, look him up.

The fact remains, the Swiss did not have gun control until the EU required them to have it, and they did just fine when random people could buy machine guns without background checks.

Who says I would, and since when does the crime of rape carry a death penalty?

Shooting people is not about killing them or punishing them. It is about stopping them from harming you.

Gunfire just happens to be the most effective way of preventing harm.

 

[2aguy]

Doesn't happen that often in the UK, compared, perhaps with America.

Again, the woman who is violently raped will take great comfort when you tell her that her kind of rape doesn’t happen that often, and you tell her …lucky you…..

Yes….we know….a woman who doesn’t want to be rapes, beaten stabbed, robbed or murdered does not have a reason to own or carry a gun

The wealthy member of the House of Lords who wants to take his rich buddies hunting On one of his several private estates….he gets the gun because hunting on your private estate is a good reason

That is how messed up your country is…

 

[2aguy]

There is that very, very, very, remote possibility, agreed. However, in the UK the overwhelming majority of modern houses come with composite doors and highly secure locks such as ABS, which are all but immune to lockpicks, crowbars and even police "battering rams". There are equivalent windows too. Also a lot of people have video doorbells and security cameras. These measures tend to deter almost all burglars/housebreakers/rapists and murderers. Were she to retrofit these items to her home, they would still work out cheaper than a gun and ammunition, secure storage and necessary training.

I guess this family learned the lesson that doors and windows aren’t enough………and an 11 year old boy was shot in the robbery….in gun free England…

Shocking doorbell cam footage shows Christopher Sargent, 28, approaching the property in Upminster, east London, while dressed as a courier and carrying a parcel late on May 1, 2020.

As the father bent to pick it up, he was flattened by Sargent, fellow robber Anthony Lascelles, 34, and two other men who forced their way inside.
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She described fearing she would be raped as Lascelles held a blade to her neck and threw her face down onto the bed.

The dad was beaten unconscious in the hallway and one of the robbers also held a knife to the young boy’s throat.
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The court heard it was at this point the 11-year-old boy moved to help his dad and was shot in the shoulder, while the couple’s nine-year-old daughter hid under her bed.

Hero 11-year-old boy shot trying to defend family during terrifying robbery

His dad was also stabbed in the head, while his mum had a knife held to her throat.

metro.co.uk

 

[Vagabond63]

I guess this family learned the lesson that doors and windows aren’t enough………and an 11 year old boy was shot in the robbery….in gun free England…

ROFL! Priceless! The boy was shot with a shotgun owned by the father!!! Seems guns weren't enough either! Oh, please, my poor ribs.
"During the incident, a shotgun that was legally held at the address was discharged, resulting in a gunshot wound to the 11-year-old child’s shoulder." Men jailed after 11-year-old boy shot during burglary in Upminster