Hobby Lobby Invests In Abortion Pill Manufacturers

[Missouri_Mike]

I'm not so sure you or mommajones know how mutual funds work but in the end isn't HL's stance in fact making their investment worth less money if they don't pay for the abortion drugs?

If and when a person who runs a company holds strong beliefs (religious or otherwise), he can instruct the people who run his fund in what to invest in and what NOT to invest in. Since they work for you, it would be incumbent on them to follow your instructions.

So in other words you really, REALLY don't understand how mutual funds work.

I'm guessing, actually I know there are a shit load of you green energy types that have 401k's invested quite heavily in oil companies. Why you may ask? Because they are steady and reliable and help stabilize your portfolio. You may not agree with the fracking but over all you still want the money from the drilling and deep sea rigs so you are willing to let fracking go for your investment while opposing it on the outside and trying to end it. Same thing with HL and the pharma companies. The same pharma companies you are invested in by the way that aren't really primarily focused on abortion drugs but do other things like cancer treatments.

Mutual funds are a wide mix of companies stocks that can stabilize and give the investor the most reliable growth of the investment. Let's face it if you only invested in the Owl Gore global warming, solyndra, Tesla stocks you would pretty much be broke by now and hoping Tesla somehow wins the Indy 500 and sells 1.9 billion cars. A good mutual fund investor would never leave you in that position. But it sure as hell leaves an opening for you to go against what your investment is doing at your own detriment. Like suing in the SC to stop paying for abortion drugs. Not so sure that helps HL's bottom line.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

This pretense from the right that they all care so much about fetuses is really getting tiresome. Whether here on this board or in the board room of Hobby Lobby, they're lying. Every single one of them.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

I'm not so sure you or mommajones know how mutual funds work but in the end isn't HL's stance in fact making their investment worth less money if they don't pay for the abortion drugs?

you would think seeing how hobby lobby is so anal about how they cover healthcare, they would be anal about this as well. Instead we get, Well thats the way it goes, so throw hands in the air!

Again you're a little slow but I expect that.

You can invest in a company that provides cancer treating drugs, dementia or whatever and be fine with that while still working against the abortion drug they are working on. Not that HL would have the time or effort to track every single one of this companies products as they invested through a mutual fund with many companies doing multiples of things in an effort to give their employees the best return on their money. That's what mutual funds do. Yet you can still be against any single thing some of your investments are doing and try to stop it.

 

[The Rabbi]

hey neat you are still alive

Thanks. Doing well, actually. How's the family?

wonderful....yours?

Thank Gd, everyone doing well.

 

[The Rabbi]

This pretense from the right that they all care so much about fetuses is really getting tiresome. Whether here on this board or in the board room of Hobby Lobby, they're lying. Every single one of them.

So HL doesn't want to impose its beliefs on others. And you demonize them for that. If they did, you would demonize them for that.
How about if HL just agreed to turn over their operations to Greenpeace, offer to decorate gay marriages for free, give all their profits to charity, and execute any manager making more than 50K/yr. Would you be happy then, sport?

 

[NYcarbineer]

Can we get one more whiney ass hobby lobby thread, paaslease?

Go back to bed Grandpa.


There are 'ethical' mutual funds available that do not invest in any companies in the abortion business, or in the supposedly abortion business,

so Hobby Lobby has no excuse.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

This pretense from the right that they all care so much about fetuses is really getting tiresome. Whether here on this board or in the board room of Hobby Lobby, they're lying. Every single one of them.

Well obviously you don't give a fuck about fetuses, or zygotes, or any other form of human reproduction. Your primary and only focus is on when you can end that life. We get that you don't care about any human life but only need the justification and what the limits are to you ending one.

You have a severe problem in thinking when you equate caring about human life is a pretense when your only goal is to make sure you can end it at will.

You blame the right for fighting for the unborn and in the same breath use that as an excuse to kill them. Because you care so much for their well being they needed to die. They were so much better off dying in the liberal sense of their use than actually getting a chance to live under the conservative option of actually living.

When did your only opinion of an unborn child become one of two options. The first being that the right wingers want this child to live and have a chance at life. And the other is you saying because these right wingers want you to live I want to kill you because somehow the right doesn't actually want you but in some twisted way of thinking you actually love them because you want them aborted?

You have a seriously perverted vision of caring. You seem to think caring must result in the death of the unborn child you care about. And somehow getting that child to actually living is so foreign to you that it's some other people messing up your version of caring by actually giving that child a chance at life.

Luddly cares for you because he wants to kill you. It's like a big hug but you'll get over it unborn child.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

What is it that Mr Sulu used to say?

Oh, MY!

Oops. Maybe the Jesus Fund was no longer open?

 

[Missouri_Mike]

What is it that Mr Sulu used to say?

Oh, MY!

Oops. Maybe the Jesus Fund was no longer open?

And the Jesus fund would be what exactly?

 

[PaintMyHouse]

What is it that Mr Sulu used to say?

Oh, MY!

Oops. Maybe the Jesus Fund was no longer open?

And the Jesus fund would be what exactly?

Heavily invested, in salt and light, with some terrific holdings in a new process that turns water into wine.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

Oops. Maybe the Jesus Fund was no longer open?

And the Jesus fund would be what exactly?

Heavily invested, in salt and light, with some terrific holdings in a new process that turns water into wine.

So nothing based in reality just your simple little mind.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

And the Jesus fund would be what exactly?

Heavily invested, in salt and light, with some terrific holdings in a new process that turns water into wine.

So nothing based in reality just your simple little mind.

Jesus should have saved your sense of humor as well as your soul.

 

[AntiParty]

I'm certain that Hobby Lobby doesn't pick and choose who their bank or stock broker does or doesn't invest in. Hell ... I don't even know what my 401k money is invested in. It's so diversified and mixed up that it would take a year to sort it all out.

You have a very valid point here.

But if they are passionate enough to FIGHT against birth control for their employee's but aren't passionate enough to fight against where their stock money goes it exposes them as PROFIT DRIVEN IDIOTS.

The Bible taught against people like Hobby Lobby.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

I'm certain that Hobby Lobby doesn't pick and choose who their bank or stock broker does or doesn't invest in. Hell ... I don't even know what my 401k money is invested in. It's so diversified and mixed up that it would take a year to sort it all out.

You have a very valid point here.

But if they are passionate enough to FIGHT against birth control for their employee's but aren't passionate enough to fight against where their stock money goes it exposes them as PROFIT DRIVEN IDIOTS.

The Bible taught against people like Hobby Lobby.

It's very unlikely anyone was paying attention, but they will be now.

 

[KNB]

The Jesus Fund is officially known as Il Instituto per le Opere di Religione, commonly referred to as the Vatican Bank.
https://www.google.com/search?q=vatican+bank&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-USfficial&client=firefox-a&channel=sb

You don't even want to know what they've had their money in.

 

[Two Thumbs]

good lord

any more reasons to demand tyranny?

 

[PaintMyHouse]

The Jesus Fund is officially known as Il Instituto per le Opere di Religione, commonly referred to as the Vatican Bank.
https://www.google.com/search?q=vatican+bank&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-USfficial&client=firefox-a&channel=sb

You don't even want to know what they've had their money in.

The underpants of small children? Oh wait, those were the Priests, my mistake...

 

[thereisnospoon]

What is it that Mr Sulu used to say?

Oh, MY!

I can't wait for HL to explain this one. Considering their so-called "sincerely held religious beliefs," no doubt whatever they say will sound more like a contrived excuse than a real explanation that seems honestly innocent in nature.

Remember what they say is the root of all evil? It's the love of money.

The owners of Hobby Lobby, a Christian-owned craft supply chain, were so offended by the idea of having to include emergency contraceptives and intrauterine devices in their health insurance plans that they sued the Obama administration and took the case all the way up to the Supreme Court. But Mother Jones reported on Tuesday that the company's retirement plan has invested millions of dollars in the manufacturers of emergency contraception and drugs used to induce abortions.
Hobby Lobby's 401(k) employee retirement plan holds $73 million in mutual funds that invest in multiple pharmaceutical companies that produce emergency contraceptive pills, intrauterine devices, and abortion-inducing medications.


The companies Hobby Lobby invests in include Teva Pharmaceutical Industries, which makes the Plan B morning-after pill and ParaGard, a copper IUD, as well as Pfizer, the maker of the abortion-inducing drugs Cytotec and Prostin E2. Hobby Lobby's mutual funds also invest in two health insurance companies that cover surgical abortions, abortion drugs, and emergency contraception in their health care policies.


Hobby Lobby's attorneys argue that the provision in the Affordable Care Act that requires most employers to cover contraception in their health plans infringes on the company's right to exercise religious freedom because the company's owners believe that emergency contraception and IUDs are actually forms of abortion. Medical studies have debunked this claim.


Mother Jones reported that all nine of the mutual funds Hobby Lobby's retirement plan holds include investments that clash with the owners' religious beliefs about abortion.

Hobby Lobby Invests In Abortion Pill Manufacturers

Mutha fuckin jones?....Ok. Nothing to see here.
Bullshit troll thread...
Oh, the fact that Harvard University is heavily invested in the energy sector has the enviro wacko lunatic fringe of the student body in a fucking shit fit.
Case closed.

 

[jasonnfree]

What is it that Mr Sulu used to say?

Oh, MY!

I can't wait for HL to explain this one. Considering their so-called "sincerely held religious beliefs," no doubt whatever they say will sound more like a contrived excuse than a real explanation that seems honestly innocent in nature.

Remember what they say is the root of all evil? It's the love of money.

The owners of Hobby Lobby, a Christian-owned craft supply chain, were so offended by the idea of having to include emergency contraceptives and intrauterine devices in their health insurance plans that they sued the Obama administration and took the case all the way up to the Supreme Court. But Mother Jones reported on Tuesday that the company's retirement plan has invested millions of dollars in the manufacturers of emergency contraception and drugs used to induce abortions.
Hobby Lobby's 401(k) employee retirement plan holds $73 million in mutual funds that invest in multiple pharmaceutical companies that produce emergency contraceptive pills, intrauterine devices, and abortion-inducing medications.


The companies Hobby Lobby invests in include Teva Pharmaceutical Industries, which makes the Plan B morning-after pill and ParaGard, a copper IUD, as well as Pfizer, the maker of the abortion-inducing drugs Cytotec and Prostin E2. Hobby Lobby's mutual funds also invest in two health insurance companies that cover surgical abortions, abortion drugs, and emergency contraception in their health care policies.


Hobby Lobby's attorneys argue that the provision in the Affordable Care Act that requires most employers to cover contraception in their health plans infringes on the company's right to exercise religious freedom because the company's owners believe that emergency contraception and IUDs are actually forms of abortion. Medical studies have debunked this claim.


Mother Jones reported that all nine of the mutual funds Hobby Lobby's retirement plan holds include investments that clash with the owners' religious beliefs about abortion.

Hobby Lobby Invests In Abortion Pill Manufacturers

How about mormons and marriot hotels they own serving alcohol and having porno tv in the rooms? Never let principle get in the way of profit. That slimeball Romney operates on this same principle.

 

[Dot Com]

Greed has no religious boundaries!!!!

yep. If they weren't so greedy they would have utilized an ethical broker who specializes in investing clinger $$$ BUT they wanted to maximize profit.