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99% of the gun owners in this country can barely shoot a paper target at 30 feet. And that's a STILL paper target, not an attacker moving 30 feet in 3 seconds. I come from a family of certified sharp-shooters. So this is not just my humble opinion.
It's pure fantasy that simply owning a gun will insure your safety. The chances are great of misfiring or not getting to your gun at all and also shooting someone by accident, sort of like Dick Cheney did a few years ago when he shot his friend in the face. Remember that? No? Oh gee......
That is why Joe Biden said it's best to own a sawed-off shotgun. No pointing necessary. No skills necessary. He's not as nutty as you think.
Where is your evidence that 99% of the gun owners in this country can barely shoot a paper target at 30 feet"?
You have to do better than just spout off nonsense.
Misfiring is rare, if you come from a family of sharpshooters like you claim, though I doubt, ask them.
You're not offering up anything to offset my point, now are you?
Have you ever been to a shooting range? I have. And it's nice because for handguns you get to put the ear protectors on, lean forward, place both hands on the muzzle, place your feet apart, lean forward, balance, aim and shoot.....at a non-moving target. And even then most people never hit the bullseye because of kick-back.
Go back to your crib, child.
If defense against a home invasion that results in murder and assault is not a legitimate argument for owning a gun, what is?"...
Deputies say they don't know if anything was taken from the home, and it's not clear yet who called 9-1-1.
Investigators have been on scene about twelve hours."'
Sounds to me like the attackers knew their victims since there was no robbery.
I don't know if you understand how long it takes for someone to break into a home and attack someone. Try less than 30 seconds because a door can be broken down in about 5-10 seconds. So we are all supposed to sleep with one eye open and a gun in our hand? Do you know how many accidental killings happen that way?
Sorry, this is a sorry-assed argument for owning a gun.
I don't think it was a random home invasion. Most crimes committed involve people that know each other.
And even then, like I said, you have to sleep with one eye open and a gun in your hand? Better to reinforce your home than accidentally shoot a family member if things in your personal life are that bad.
The only reason to reinforce the home is to give you more time to prepare your firearm and yourself.
It's not like reaching the nightstand will take more than a second but I would like a few extra seconds to get in a good firing position.
How many times have you had to defend your home? Are you closely related to criminals like this couple?
If defense against a home invasion that results in murder and assault is not a legitimate argument for owning a gun, what is?"...
Deputies say they don't know if anything was taken from the home, and it's not clear yet who called 9-1-1.
Investigators have been on scene about twelve hours."'
Sounds to me like the attackers knew their victims since there was no robbery.
I don't know if you understand how long it takes for someone to break into a home and attack someone. Try less than 30 seconds because a door can be broken down in about 5-10 seconds. So we are all supposed to sleep with one eye open and a gun in our hand? Do you know how many accidental killings happen that way?
Sorry, this is a sorry-assed argument for owning a gun.
I don't think it was a random home invasion. Most crimes committed involve people that know each other.
And even then, like I said, you have to sleep with one eye open and a gun in your hand? Better to reinforce your home than accidentally shoot a family member if things in your personal life are that bad.
The only reason to reinforce the home is to give you more time to prepare your firearm and yourself.
It's not like reaching the nightstand will take more than a second but I would like a few extra seconds to get in a good firing position.
How many times have you had to defend your home? Are you closely related to criminals like this couple?
I've already told you at least once that I stopped a home invasion robbery attempted by three mexicans,who I can assure you I didnt know.
Thank God for sawed off 870's....
If defense against a home invasion that results in murder and assault is not a legitimate argument for owning a gun, what is?
I don't think it was a random home invasion. Most crimes committed involve people that know each other.
And even then, like I said, you have to sleep with one eye open and a gun in your hand? Better to reinforce your home than accidentally shoot a family member if things in your personal life are that bad.
The only reason to reinforce the home is to give you more time to prepare your firearm and yourself.
It's not like reaching the nightstand will take more than a second but I would like a few extra seconds to get in a good firing position.
How many times have you had to defend your home? Are you closely related to criminals like this couple?
I've already told you at least once that I stopped a home invasion robbery attempted by three mexicans,who I can assure you I didnt know.
Thank God for sawed off 870's....
How did you know they were Mexicans? Let's hear the details again.
If they'd had a gun, somebody might have gotten hurt!Yes....Grandparent's with their 3 month old grand daughter are at their home....when a couple of home invaders break in, tie them up and beat the grand parents......the grand father dies, the grand mother is in the hospital the infant was unharmed....
Whew......it is a good thing they didn't use a gun to stop the attack.....right?
WHY I CARRY Grandfather Killed During Home Invasion Concealed Nation
A 68-year-old grandfather was at his home with his wife and three-month-old grandchild when a group of people broke into their home, then bound and beat them.
The baby was unharmed. The grandmother was taken to the hospital and is said to be expected to survive. The grandfather however, died of his injuries. The victims were identified as Hemchand and Sabitree Bhagwandin.
The incident happened just after 11pm Sunday night in an otherwise quiet neighborhood. At least one neighbor however, has said that in the recent weeks, crime has picked up in their immediate area.
Neighbors, like John Shelley, say they are getting accustomed to the police activity.
“This house was broken into once and the house down the street has been broken into once since we’ve been here,” Shelley said.
It’s a sad reminder of why it is so important to arm ourselves against evil such as this. Police have no motive, and find it to be a seemingly random home invasion. During an interview, Police added:
Since you didn't kill them, the anti-gun loons do not consider this a defensive gun use.I suppose they could have been from anyone of those "south american countries"
I didnt really discuss their country of origin with them.
Basically they came to my door claiming car trouble and they wanted to come inside to use the phone. I told the wife to get the cordless phone and about that time I noticed one had a cell phone in his hand. It became obvious that he knew I was on to them because at that point he started to bum rush me.
I dropped the shotgun I was holding in my right hand behind the door jam across the open door and brought it up.
They fell all over themselves scrambling back into their "broken down" vehicle and hauled ass.
I don't think it was a random home invasion. Most crimes committed involve people that know each other.
And even then, like I said, you have to sleep with one eye open and a gun in your hand? Better to reinforce your home than accidentally shoot a family member if things in your personal life are that bad.
The only reason to reinforce the home is to give you more time to prepare your firearm and yourself.
It's not like reaching the nightstand will take more than a second but I would like a few extra seconds to get in a good firing position.
How many times have you had to defend your home? Are you closely related to criminals like this couple?
I've already told you at least once that I stopped a home invasion robbery attempted by three mexicans,who I can assure you I didnt know.
Thank God for sawed off 870's....
How did you know they were Mexicans? Let's hear the details again.
I suppose they could have been from anyone of those "south american countries"
I didnt really discuss their country of origin with them.
Basically they came to my door claiming car trouble and they wanted to come inside to use the phone. I told the wife to get the cordless phone and about that time I noticed one had a cell phone in his hand. It became obvious that he knew I was on to them because at that point he started to bum rush me.
I dropped the shotgun I was holding in my right hand behind the door jam across the open door and brought it up.
They fell all over themselves scrambling back into their "broken down" vehicle and hauled ass.
"...
Deputies say they don't know if anything was taken from the home, and it's not clear yet who called 9-1-1.
Investigators have been on scene about twelve hours."'
Sounds to me like the attackers knew their victims since there was no robbery.
I don't know if you understand how long it takes for someone to break into a home and attack someone. Try less than 30 seconds because a door can be broken down in about 5-10 seconds. So we are all supposed to sleep with one eye open and a gun in our hand? Do you know how many accidental killings happen that way?
Sorry, this is a sorry-assed argument for owning a gun.
I always answer the door holding a shotgun. Then again, now that I think about it, nobody I know ever comes to my house any more.
As soon as you verify anything you have said......
So you admit you are making it up. Thanks. Kleck says most defenders are involved in criminal activity.
No, he said many defenders carried their guns without permits, and others may ot have met the paper work to have guns in their homes.....he did not say they were robbers, rapists, drug dealers or any sort of actual criminal....you are making that up.....
You make up the numbers brain, not me.........
Don't have to make anything up. Criminals are armed and in high crime areas. Of course they are the majority of defenses. Are you suggesting a criminal won't use his gone for defense? Show where any of your studies excluded criminals.
brain, they are not getting reported in these studies so they are not the majority of the defenses.........you are making this up as well as other things.........
There is no incentive for a criminal to respond to an unknown person on the phone to admit to using a gun to commit a felony, since as a criminal they can't own, carry or touch a gun....and since the unknown caller has their phone number, and hence their name and address, they would be admitting to committing several felonies by using a gun for anything, including self defense......
Law abiding citizens....much less to fear from admitting to self defense with a gun....but still, there is a risk...that is why the number of actual gun use for self defense is actually higher, not lower than what these studies claim.........
Then quote from a study saying they aren't being reported. Otherwise you are just making it up.
Brain lies to you. You both know it.Brain....you are the one who makes things up...the study is the study...you say it only records criminals, I explain why it can't, and you accuse me of making things up....I give you 16 actual studies that report the defensive use of guns by Americans...you say they are all made up....and then make up your own number that to you "sounds right.".....so please, don't project onto me the things you do to justify your anti gun beliefs.....
So you admit you are making it up. Thanks. Kleck says most defenders are involved in criminal activity.
No, he said many defenders carried their guns without permits, and others may ot have met the paper work to have guns in their homes.....he did not say they were robbers, rapists, drug dealers or any sort of actual criminal....you are making that up.....
You make up the numbers brain, not me.........
Don't have to make anything up. Criminals are armed and in high crime areas. Of course they are the majority of defenses. Are you suggesting a criminal won't use his gone for defense? Show where any of your studies excluded criminals.
brain, they are not getting reported in these studies so they are not the majority of the defenses.........you are making this up as well as other things.........
There is no incentive for a criminal to respond to an unknown person on the phone to admit to using a gun to commit a felony, since as a criminal they can't own, carry or touch a gun....and since the unknown caller has their phone number, and hence their name and address, they would be admitting to committing several felonies by using a gun for anything, including self defense......
Law abiding citizens....much less to fear from admitting to self defense with a gun....but still, there is a risk...that is why the number of actual gun use for self defense is actually higher, not lower than what these studies claim.........
Then quote from a study saying they aren't being reported. Otherwise you are just making it up.
Brain....you are the one who makes things up...the study is the study...you say it only records criminals, I explain why it can't, and you accuse me of making things up....I give you 16 actual studies that report the defensive use of guns by Americans...you say they are all made up....and then make up your own number that to you "sounds right.".....so please, don't project onto me the things you do to justify your anti gun beliefs.....
Brain lies to you. You both know it.Brain....you are the one who makes things up...the study is the study...you say it only records criminals, I explain why it can't, and you accuse me of making things up....I give you 16 actual studies that report the defensive use of guns by Americans...you say they are all made up....and then make up your own number that to you "sounds right.".....so please, don't project onto me the things you do to justify your anti gun beliefs.....
Brain lies to you. You both know it.Brain....you are the one who makes things up...the study is the study...you say it only records criminals, I explain why it can't, and you accuse me of making things up....I give you 16 actual studies that report the defensive use of guns by Americans...you say they are all made up....and then make up your own number that to you "sounds right.".....so please, don't project onto me the things you do to justify your anti gun beliefs.....
Prove it.
Brain lies to you. You both know it.Brain....you are the one who makes things up...the study is the study...you say it only records criminals, I explain why it can't, and you accuse me of making things up....I give you 16 actual studies that report the defensive use of guns by Americans...you say they are all made up....and then make up your own number that to you "sounds right.".....so please, don't project onto me the things you do to justify your anti gun beliefs.....
Prove it.
Just pick any one of your post.
Since you didn't kill them, the anti-gun loons do not consider this a defensive gun use.I suppose they could have been from anyone of those "south american countries"
I didnt really discuss their country of origin with them.
Basically they came to my door claiming car trouble and they wanted to come inside to use the phone. I told the wife to get the cordless phone and about that time I noticed one had a cell phone in his hand. It became obvious that he knew I was on to them because at that point he started to bum rush me.
I dropped the shotgun I was holding in my right hand behind the door jam across the open door and brought it up.
They fell all over themselves scrambling back into their "broken down" vehicle and hauled ass.
These things happen.Yes....Grandparent's with their 3 month old grand daughter are at their home....when a couple of home invaders break in, tie them up and beat the grand parents......the grand father dies, the grand mother is in the hospital the infant was unharmed....
Whew......it is a good thing they didn't use a gun to stop the attack.....right?
WHY I CARRY Grandfather Killed During Home Invasion Concealed Nation
A 68-year-old grandfather was at his home with his wife and three-month-old grandchild when a group of people broke into their home, then bound and beat them.
The baby was unharmed. The grandmother was taken to the hospital and is said to be expected to survive. The grandfather however, died of his injuries. The victims were identified as Hemchand and Sabitree Bhagwandin.
The incident happened just after 11pm Sunday night in an otherwise quiet neighborhood. At least one neighbor however, has said that in the recent weeks, crime has picked up in their immediate area.
Neighbors, like John Shelley, say they are getting accustomed to the police activity.
“This house was broken into once and the house down the street has been broken into once since we’ve been here,” Shelley said.
It’s a sad reminder of why it is so important to arm ourselves against evil such as this. Police have no motive, and find it to be a seemingly random home invasion. During an interview, Police added:
The only reason to reinforce the home is to give you more time to prepare your firearm and yourself.
It's not like reaching the nightstand will take more than a second but I would like a few extra seconds to get in a good firing position.
How many times have you had to defend your home? Are you closely related to criminals like this couple?
I've already told you at least once that I stopped a home invasion robbery attempted by three mexicans,who I can assure you I didnt know.
Thank God for sawed off 870's....
How did you know they were Mexicans? Let's hear the details again.
I suppose they could have been from anyone of those "south american countries"
I didnt really discuss their country of origin with them.
Basically they came to my door claiming car trouble and they wanted to come inside to use the phone. I told the wife to get the cordless phone and about that time I noticed one had a cell phone in his hand. It became obvious that he knew I was on to them because at that point he started to bum rush me.
I dropped the shotgun I was holding in my right hand behind the door jam across the open door and brought it up.
They fell all over themselves scrambling back into their "broken down" vehicle and hauled ass.
Interesting. Describe this bum rush. Through the door?
