How about some examples of this “socialism” stuff y’all are afraid of?

[g5000]

Not communist:

 

[rightwinger]

I visited Plymouth last summer

Let me guess......You have been getting your history from Rush Limbaugh

More vacation stories....

Let me tell ya about Nantucket......

 

[rightwinger]

Own land?
In Plymouth?
You could have any land you wanted.

Buy and sell your product? Who is going to buy it? Half the Pilgrims died of starvation

Pilgrims were not prepared for the environment they stumbled in to. Local Indians had to teach them how to survive

*cough*

The settlers who established themselves on the shores of New England all belonged to the more independent classes of their native country. Their union on the soil of America at once presented the singular phenomenon of a society containing neither lords nor common people, and we may almost say neither rich nor poor. These men possessed, in proportion to their number, a greater mass of intelligence than is to be found in any European nation of our own time All, perhaps without a single exception, had received a good education, and many of them were known in Europe for their talents and their acquirements. The other colonies had been founded by adventurers without families; the immigrants of New England brought with them the best elements of order and morality; they landed on the desert coast accompanied by their wives and children. But what especially distinguished them from all others was the aim of their undertaking. They had not been obliged by necessity to leave their country; the social position they abandoned was one to be regretted, and their means of subsistence were certain. Nor did they cross the Atlantic to improve their situation or to increase their wealth; it was a purely intellectual craving that called them from the comforts of their former homes; and in facing the inevitable . sufferings of exile their object was the triumph of an idea.

The immigrants, or, as they deservedly styled themselves, the Pilgrims, belonged to that English sect the austerity of whose principles had acquired for them the name of Puritans. Puritanism was not merely a religious doctrine, but corresponded in many points with the most absolute democratic and republican theories. It was this tendency that had aroused its most dangerous adversaries. Persecuted by the government of the mother country, and disgusted by the habits of a society which the rigor of their own principles condemned, the Puritans went forth to seek some rude and unfrequented part of the world where they could live according to their own opinions and worship God in freedom.

Tocqueville: Book I Chapter 2


The people who settled in the South, however, were of a different and much uglier breed...

Zxzzzzzz.......tl:dr

Only half the settlers were Pilgrims and half died the first year

They landed in Plymouth instead of NY like they planed. They also landed in November , not the most pleasant weather in New England

Capitalism was not going to save them

the bottom line is that you're a fucking moron. Socialism is what caused them to starve. Socialism and starvation go together like peas in a pod.

So your solution to starvation in a hostile environment is capitalism?

No wonder the FBI is investigating you

Yes, that is the solution for all economic problems: get the government the fuck out of the way.

You goofy

 

[Ambivalent1]

Cons seem to love tagging everything they don’t like as “socialism “ . The word has lost all meaning .

How about some real life examples of American socialism? And how it’s hurt us .

I’ll give you an example : US socialism going waaaay back to the 1800s . When the gov purchased and then opened up the west and gave away land to Americans.

Don't be an ass. Free College, free health care, "living wage" (whatever that is).

 

[g5000]

Man, this shit is fucking hilarious.

You tell a libtard that communism doesn't work "because Venezuela" and they retort, "That isn't real communism!"

You tell a pseudocon that Communist China is closing in on our GDP and they retort, "That isn't real communism!"


Fucking schizos!

 

[initforme]

We have zero socialism in America. It's no threat nor does it have any support. It's like Sasquatch. People say it exists it's just not to be found.

 

[Ambivalent1]

Man, this shit is fucking hilarious.

You tell a libtard that communism doesn't work "because Venezuela" and they retort, "That isn't real communism!"

You tell a pseudocon that Communist China is closing in on our GDP and they retort, "That isn't real communism!"


Fucking schizos!

It's Trumps fault no doubt, just ask you. You're an idiot kid.

 

[Ambivalent1]

We have zero socialism in America. It's no threat nor does it have any support. It's like Sasquatch. People say it exists it's just not to be found.

Bigfoot in the hide and seek world champion.

 

[rightwinger]

We have zero socialism in America. It's no threat nor does it have any support. It's like Sasquatch. People say it exists it's just not to be found.

All societies are a mix of socialism and capitalism

 

[initforme]

We don't have nor need socialism...we do need regulations though.

 

[Preacher]

How’s Venezuela socialism doing?

Bad . For many reasons . Mainly corruption.

How’s UAE socialism doing ?

American socialism programs seem to be doing great .

UAE is a capitalist nation.

What do you consider a socialist nation ? UAE has cheap healthcare , gas , schools , citizens get free money .

What’s left on the socialism check list ?

United Arab Emirates: Paradise of Capitalism, hell for the workers

Your marxist comrades don't agree the UAE is a socialist country lol. In fact it sounds like capitalism at its absolute worst.

 

[Mac1958]

The current incarnation of the Right doesn't seem to be able to distinguish a difference between elements of socialism and total socialism. I don't know why. I definitely have my guesses, though.

No one said we had total socialism, shit for brains.

Sure, which is why you folks are constantly screaming about Venezuela and Cuba.

Talk radio has robbed you of your capacity for nuance, assuming you ever had it to begin with.
.

 

[Timmy]

How’s Venezuela socialism doing?

Bad . For many reasons . Mainly corruption.

How’s UAE socialism doing ?

American socialism programs seem to be doing great .

UAE is a capitalist nation.

What do you consider a socialist nation ? UAE has cheap healthcare , gas , schools , citizens get free money .

What’s left on the socialism check list ?

United Arab Emirates: Paradise of Capitalism, hell for the workers

Your marxist comrades don't agree the UAE is a socialist country lol. In fact it sounds like capitalism at its absolute worst.

I’m back!

UAE is great .... if your a citizen. The immigrant workers are treated like garbage . There’s no environment protection , big biz has free reign. It’s a gop Dream.

What is your checklist for a socialist country ? This proves my point that you cons keep moving the goalpost .

 

[Missouri_Mike]

Cons seem to love tagging everything they don’t like as “socialism “ . The word has lost all meaning .

How about some real life examples of American socialism? And how it’s hurt us .

I’ll give you an example : US socialism going waaaay back to the 1800s . When the gov purchased and then opened up the west and gave away land to Americans.

The worst example is SS. By far. It's a socialist program that pretty much insures you will never be getting any value for your investment.

And that means we should add more Socialist programs?

Hell no. Eliminate that crap.

 

[Preacher]

How’s Venezuela socialism doing?

Bad . For many reasons . Mainly corruption.

How’s UAE socialism doing ?

American socialism programs seem to be doing great .

UAE is a capitalist nation.

What do you consider a socialist nation ? UAE has cheap healthcare , gas , schools , citizens get free money .

What’s left on the socialism check list ?

United Arab Emirates: Paradise of Capitalism, hell for the workers

Your marxist comrades don't agree the UAE is a socialist country lol. In fact it sounds like capitalism at its absolute worst.

I’m back!

UAE is great .... if your a citizen. The immigrant workers are treated like garbage . There’s no environment protection , big biz has free reign. It’s a gop Dream.

What is your checklist for a socialist country ? This proves my point that you cons keep moving the goalpost .

Actually I was just correcting your lie that the UAE is a socialist country. Simple socialist country is where the means of production and distribution are controlled by the government,aka if you are someone the government doesn't like or approve of they can cut you off completely! Do you realize how many jobs would be lost with socialism in the USA?

 

[bripat9643]

Not true....Just like today, you own land, you create a product and sell or trade it for products someone else creates that you need. The part you missed is the private ownership of land (means of production) by individuals. If individuals own no land and are forced to produce without making an individual profit, everyone suffers.

Own land?
In Plymouth?
You could have any land you wanted.

Buy and sell your product? Who is going to buy it? Half the Pilgrims died of starvation

Pilgrims were not prepared for the environment they stumbled in to. Local Indians had to teach them how to survive

*cough*

The settlers who established themselves on the shores of New England all belonged to the more independent classes of their native country. Their union on the soil of America at once presented the singular phenomenon of a society containing neither lords nor common people, and we may almost say neither rich nor poor. These men possessed, in proportion to their number, a greater mass of intelligence than is to be found in any European nation of our own time All, perhaps without a single exception, had received a good education, and many of them were known in Europe for their talents and their acquirements. The other colonies had been founded by adventurers without families; the immigrants of New England brought with them the best elements of order and morality; they landed on the desert coast accompanied by their wives and children. But what especially distinguished them from all others was the aim of their undertaking. They had not been obliged by necessity to leave their country; the social position they abandoned was one to be regretted, and their means of subsistence were certain. Nor did they cross the Atlantic to improve their situation or to increase their wealth; it was a purely intellectual craving that called them from the comforts of their former homes; and in facing the inevitable . sufferings of exile their object was the triumph of an idea.

The immigrants, or, as they deservedly styled themselves, the Pilgrims, belonged to that English sect the austerity of whose principles had acquired for them the name of Puritans. Puritanism was not merely a religious doctrine, but corresponded in many points with the most absolute democratic and republican theories. It was this tendency that had aroused its most dangerous adversaries. Persecuted by the government of the mother country, and disgusted by the habits of a society which the rigor of their own principles condemned, the Puritans went forth to seek some rude and unfrequented part of the world where they could live according to their own opinions and worship God in freedom.

Tocqueville: Book I Chapter 2


The people who settled in the South, however, were of a different and much uglier breed...

Zxzzzzzz.......tl:dr

Only half the settlers were Pilgrims and half died the first year

They landed in Plymouth instead of NY like they planed. They also landed in November , not the most pleasant weather in New England

Capitalism was not going to save them

the bottom line is that you're a fucking moron. Socialism is what caused them to starve. Socialism and starvation go together like peas in a pod.

So your solution to starvation in a hostile environment is capitalism?

No wonder the FBI is investigating you

So endorsing capitalism makes you suspicious? Since when?

I only note the facts, moron. Capitalism is what allowed Plymouth to thrive. Socialism made it starve. That's the historical record.

 

[bripat9643]

We have zero socialism in America. It's no threat nor does it have any support. It's like Sasquatch. People say it exists it's just not to be found.

All societies are a mix of socialism and capitalism

The less socialism the have, the more they thrive.

 

[bripat9643]

The current incarnation of the Right doesn't seem to be able to distinguish a difference between elements of socialism and total socialism. I don't know why. I definitely have my guesses, though.

No one said we had total socialism, shit for brains.

Sure, which is why you folks are constantly screaming about Venezuela and Cuba.

Talk radio has robbed you of your capacity for nuance, assuming you ever had it to begin with.
.

Yes, Cuba and Venezuela have a lot more socialism. Hence, they are a lot more fucked up. It's a direct proportional relationship.

 

[rightwinger]

Own land?
In Plymouth?
You could have any land you wanted.

Buy and sell your product? Who is going to buy it? Half the Pilgrims died of starvation

Pilgrims were not prepared for the environment they stumbled in to. Local Indians had to teach them how to survive

*cough*

The settlers who established themselves on the shores of New England all belonged to the more independent classes of their native country. Their union on the soil of America at once presented the singular phenomenon of a society containing neither lords nor common people, and we may almost say neither rich nor poor. These men possessed, in proportion to their number, a greater mass of intelligence than is to be found in any European nation of our own time All, perhaps without a single exception, had received a good education, and many of them were known in Europe for their talents and their acquirements. The other colonies had been founded by adventurers without families; the immigrants of New England brought with them the best elements of order and morality; they landed on the desert coast accompanied by their wives and children. But what especially distinguished them from all others was the aim of their undertaking. They had not been obliged by necessity to leave their country; the social position they abandoned was one to be regretted, and their means of subsistence were certain. Nor did they cross the Atlantic to improve their situation or to increase their wealth; it was a purely intellectual craving that called them from the comforts of their former homes; and in facing the inevitable . sufferings of exile their object was the triumph of an idea.

The immigrants, or, as they deservedly styled themselves, the Pilgrims, belonged to that English sect the austerity of whose principles had acquired for them the name of Puritans. Puritanism was not merely a religious doctrine, but corresponded in many points with the most absolute democratic and republican theories. It was this tendency that had aroused its most dangerous adversaries. Persecuted by the government of the mother country, and disgusted by the habits of a society which the rigor of their own principles condemned, the Puritans went forth to seek some rude and unfrequented part of the world where they could live according to their own opinions and worship God in freedom.

Tocqueville: Book I Chapter 2


The people who settled in the South, however, were of a different and much uglier breed...

Zxzzzzzz.......tl:dr

Only half the settlers were Pilgrims and half died the first year

They landed in Plymouth instead of NY like they planed. They also landed in November , not the most pleasant weather in New England

Capitalism was not going to save them

the bottom line is that you're a fucking moron. Socialism is what caused them to starve. Socialism and starvation go together like peas in a pod.

So your solution to starvation in a hostile environment is capitalism?

No wonder the FBI is investigating you

So endorsing capitalism makes you suspicious? Since when?

I only note the facts, moron. Capitalism is what allowed Plymouth to thrive. Socialism made it starve. That's the historical record.

Do you understand what capitalism is Finger Boy?

It involves the buying and selling of goods and services

Now, what did Pilgrims have to sell and who were they going to sell it to?

 

[22lcidw]

The current incarnation of the Right doesn't seem to be able to distinguish a difference between elements of socialism and total socialism. I don't know why. I definitely have my guesses, though.

No one said we had total socialism, shit for brains.

Sure, which is why you folks are constantly screaming about Venezuela and Cuba.

Talk radio has robbed you of your capacity for nuance, assuming you ever had it to begin with.
.

Over Thirty million Russians died over collectivism in the 1930's in the Soviet Union. With all of our flaws, government has no soul when agendas become a tsunami. People believed in our nation during the depression that Sovit successes were making the rich. They did not know of the exterminations of people. This led to McCarthy. Now we embryonic Lenin Mensheviks in the Progressive Socialist Party that will lead to Bolsheviks.