How can anyone on the left claim Trump has been anything but successful?

[candycorn]

By almost any measurable metric the United States is flourishing. And in some areas it isn't just flourishing it is stampeding.
I will grant you that the debt/spending is a huge problem but at least the country as a whole is reaping rewards from it this time. Usually they spend boatloads and we get buptkis out of it (see Obama)
The threat of tariffs and ending trade agreements has even had some positive outcomes so far (Mexico & Canada)

Now I expect you to howl about families split up at the border (while pretending this was new to Trump) and the debt of course but policy wise you got no winning message.

we were going to get these metrics regardless; just a continuing trend.

Hey...to Trump's credit, he hasn't steered the train off the tracks. The CPI and PPI are going up and inflation is creeping upward too. Housing is going to be hit by the timber tariffs and interest rates increasing and as housing goes; so goes the economy--people don't buy refrigerators or septic systems when they don't have houses--they also don't remodel. I'm sure the OP will blame the Democrats when it dawns on him. But lets give the President a little credit; he hasn't totally fucked things up and has stopped demanding billions for a vanity wall, allowed the government debt ceiling to increase

The sneaky way Congress plans to raise the debt ceiling

 

[JoeB131]

I am saddened by the complete ignorance of those on the left with regards to how the economy works.

sigh..

9 of the last 10 recessions started when Republicans were in charge.

If anyone doesn't know how the economy works, it's you guys.

Recessions aren't a bug of Republican policy, they are a design feature.

 

[JoeB131]

THINK for once! How in the hell does it help to bankrupt companies? Put 1,400 companies out of business? Layoff 450,000 people and cut $100 billion in tax revenue?

YOu mean other than we will have a planet to live on because we got rid of a toxic form of energy.

Seriously, fuck those 450,000 people. They can find something else to do for a living.

Coal is bad for us... this isn't complicated, you stupid fuck. But you science deniers keep trying to pretend we should keep destroying the planet so a few assholes can get rich exploiting the dumb white trash who'd be better off finding something else to do for a living.

 

[healthmyths]

I am saddened by the complete ignorance of those on the left with regards to how the economy works.

sigh..

9 of the last 10 recessions started when Republicans were in charge.

If anyone doesn't know how the economy works, it's you guys.

Recessions aren't a bug of Republican policy, they are a design feature.

Idiots like you think "recessions" start like your water faucet... on / off. Or like when you dummies flip the light switch always comes on immediately or off.

"Recessions" are NOT like that.

Businesses don't wake up one morning and say.."Not going to hire anyone. Not going to buy any more supplies."
It is called "Business cycle".

Causes of 2001 Recession of 2001
Irrational exuberance in high tech caused the 2001 recession.
In 1999, there was an economic boom in computer and software sales caused by the Y2K scare.
Many companies and individuals bought new computer systems to make sure their software was Y2K compliant.
This meant that the operating code would be able to understand the difference between 2000 and 1900.
That's because many fields within that code only had two spaces, not the four needed to fully differentiate the two dates. As a result, the stock price of many high-tech companies started to increase.

It became apparent in January 2000 that computer orders were going to decline. The shelf life of most computers is about two years. Companies had just bought all the equipment they would need. This led to a stock market sell-off in March 2000. As stock prices declined, so did the value of the dot.com companies and many went bankrupt.
11 Causes of a Recession

NOTE to dummies like YOU!!! Who was President in 1999?

Cause of 2008 Recession
Irrational exuberance in the housing market led many people to buy houses they couldn't afford. Everyone thought housing prices could only go up. The Fed should have raised interest rates in 2004. Low-interest rates in 2004 and 2005 helped create the housing bubble. Irrational exuberance set in again as many investors took advantage of low rates to buy homes just to resell. Others bought homes they couldn't afford thanks to interest-only loans.


In 2006, the bubble burst as housing prices started to decline. This caught many homeowners off guard, who had taken loans with little money down. As they realized they would lose money by selling the house for less than their mortgage, they foreclosed. An escalating foreclosure rate panicked many banks and hedge funds. They had bought mortgage-backed securities on the secondary market and now we're facing huge losses.


By August 2007, banks became afraid to lend to each other because they didn't want these toxic loans as collateral. This led to the $700 billion bailout, and bankruptcies or government nationalization of Bear Stearns, AIG, Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, IndyMac Bank, and Washington Mutual. By December 2008, employment was declining faster than in the 2001 recession.

Who was President? GWB a Republican.
WHAT caused the housing prices decline?
As the above article states EVENTS that are beyond a President's control and all of these events were beyond GWB's control.

 

[Meathead]

By almost any measurable metric the United States is flourishing. And in some areas it isn't just flourishing it is stampeding.
I will grant you that the debt/spending is a huge problem but at least the country as a whole is reaping rewards from it this time. Usually they spend boatloads and we get buptkis out of it (see Obama)
The threat of tariffs and ending trade agreements has even had some positive outcomes so far (Mexico & Canada)

Now I expect you to howl about families split up at the border (while pretending this was new to Trump) and the debt of course but policy wise you got no winning message.

Hugely successful. Never seen anything like this.

 

[kyzr]

Cause of 2008 Recession ??
In 1999 the Congress enacted and President Clinton signed into law the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act, also known as the Financial Services Modernization Act.

IMHO The "Community Investment Act" signed by Bill Clinton which gave government backed mortgages to the unqualified was the main reason for the financial crisis. If you ever saw the movie "Too Big to Fail", you'd understand how it happened. Basically the banks had risky loans, so they bundled them and sold them as "mortgage backed securities", the ones who bought them soon realized that they were toxic and worthless and began to fail, like the above list PLUS Lehman Brothers.

From above:
"Irrational exuberance set in again as many investors took advantage of low rates to buy homes just to resell/flip. Others bought homes they couldn't afford thanks to interest-only loans with zero down. In 2006, the bubble burst as housing prices started to decline. This caught many homeowners off guard, who had taken loans with little money down. As they realized they would lose money by selling the house for less than their mortgage, they foreclosed. An escalating foreclosure rate panicked many banks and hedge funds. They had bought mortgage-backed securities on the secondary market and now we're facing huge losses."

The Congress realized that the banks needed better risk management and passed "The Dodd-Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act is a massive piece of financial reform legislation passed by the Obama administration in 2010 as a response to the financial crisis of 2008." Which put banks back on a sound financial footing.

 

[healthmyths]

I am saddened by the complete ignorance of those on the left with regards to how the economy works. They use the same tired rhetoric their handlers have beaten into their heads...repeated ad nauseum. The tax cuts were for everyone who was paying taxes. The tax cuts have stimulated economic growth in the way of consumer confidence, higher wages and more jobs. It is amazing that supposedly educated people are unable to se this. It just goes to prove that protecting the liberal ideology, not matter how flawed, is more important than actual results.

If a Socialist/Democrat is elected on 2020, the economy will bust. They will blame it on Trump and the liberal lemmings will believe it.

The tax cuts raised the deficit and will and $1.5 trillion in debt
Working Americans saw token decreases while the wealthy and corporations saw 80 percent of the cut

HEY Dummies like you I guess don't consider the realities of how taxes work!

The latest monthly budget report from the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office finds that revenues from federal income taxes were $76 billion higher in the first half of this year, compared with the first half of 2017. That's a 9% jump, even though the lower income tax withholding schedules went into effect in February.

The CBO says the gain "largely reflects increases in wages and salaries."
For the fiscal year as a whole — which started last October — all federal revenues are up by $31 billion. That's a 1.2% in increase over last year, the CBO says.
Income Tax Revenues Are Up 9% As Trump's Pro-Growth Tax Cuts Kick In

NOW Dummy key word..increase in wages and salaries"

But dummies like you don't seem to realize that EMPLOYERS pay the same percentage in payroll taxes as the employee! In other words because you don't understand:
Simple question... do you know how much the employer has to pay for YOUR Medicare/SS payroll tax? I bet you don't know they pay 6.2%... the same as you!
So... NOW how much MORE revenue will the government take in if there are more people working with more employers paying payroll taxes?
It will be and is a FACT... MORE than double what the government will lose in Corporate income taxes. Don't believe me?
Here are the numbers!

As of Aug 2018 161,776,000 compared to Aug 2017 of 153,471,000 or 8,305,000 more people working and paying income and payroll taxes.

https://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/empsit.pdf

In Oct 2017 Average hourly wage was $22.18 United States Average Hourly Wages | 1964-2018 | Data | Chart | Calendar

So in August 2018 at average of 40 hours times $22.18 equals $887.20. A total of $7.4 billion a week more in payroll than in 2017.
Employer and employee PAYROLL TAXES paid per week in Aug 2018 =12.4% or on $887.20 $110.01 per employee
means nearly $1 billion MORE per week in payroll taxes or $52 billion more in a year.

Do you comprehend this? The Federal government by having just 8.3 million MORE people working will gain $52 billion just in payroll taxes!
That's why there is MORE federal revenue coming in than anytime in history...and AFTER the tax cuts.

NOW the above details are TOO MUCH for dummies like you to comprehend BUT the facts are:

1) First, the attacks on 9/11 led to the War on Terror.
That almost doubled annual military spending. It rose from $437.4 billion in 2003 to a peak of $855.1 billion in 2011.
That includes the defense department budget and off-budget emergency spending.
It also includes spending for departments that support defense, such as Homeland Security, the Department of Veterans Affairs, and the National Nuclear Security Administration.

2) Second, mandatory spending has increased.
That means benefit payouts for Social Security, Medicare, and other mandated programs. It's exceeded $2 trillion a year since FY 2011. These payments consume two-thirds
of the revenue each year. Only an Act of Congress that amends a program's benefits can change them. That would require a majority vote in both houses and is unlikely to happen.
Any reduction in benefits takes money out of the pockets of current beneficiaries. The powerful demographic of seniors would vote lawmakers out of office.

3)Third, the Trump tax cut will reduce revenue.
It's reducing the personal income tax rate, corporate taxes, and small business taxes.
These cuts total $1.5 trillion over the next 10 years.
But the Joint Committee on Taxation said the cuts will stimulate growth by 0.7 percent annually.
The increased growth will add revenue, offsetting some of the tax cuts. As a result, the deficit will increase $1 trillion over the next decade.
4 Reasons the U.S. Deficit Is Out of Control


NOW dummy!!!! For you to understand...the key is MORE people are working than ever before.
MEANS more payroll taxes being paid.
Corporate tax cuts MEANS MORE tax revenue because dummies like you didn't seem to realize that
A) Cutting corporate income tax from 35% if you left your profits in the USA ...
therefore there was All told, Fortune 500 corporations are avoiding up to $767 billion in U.S. federal income taxes by holding more than $2.6 trillion of “permanently reinvested”
profits offshore
Fortune 500 Companies Hold a Record $2.6 Trillion Offshore

So how much of that has come back because the cut in corporate taxes to 21%?
All told, the Bureau of Economic Analysis (BEA) reported, some $305.6 billion returned to the U.S. from overseas accounts.
That's a $1.2 trillion annual rate, and far more than the $35 billion one year before.Jun 26, 2018

Thanks To Tax Cuts, Companies' Overseas Profits Flooding Back To U.S.

SO DUMMY... explain to me how the US tax revenue that was being avoided to the tune of over $700 billion annual DUE to being offshore is now being turned around
and these companies are doing:
1) Spending $1.2 trillion annually IN the USA that didn't before!
2) These spending means more construction, more what??? WORKERS paying more payroll taxes AND LESS unemployment benefits going OUT!

BUT all this information means NOTHING to dummies like you that only comprehend headlines and 30 second sound bites!

 

[kyzr]

Big picture, Trump is increasing the Debt, no matter how you spin the tax cut stimulation. The top tax rate needs to increase to pay the bills. The top tax rate got more than 90% of the tax cut as well as benefits from the Corporate tax cut and the stock market rise. When the next economic downturn happens, and it will happen, the Debt will choke off all spending except servicing the Debt. While times are good is time to get finances in order for when times are bad.

 

[healthmyths]

Cause of 2008 Recession ??
In 1999 the Congress enacted and President Clinton signed into law the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act, also known as the Financial Services Modernization Act.

IMHO The "Community Investment Act" signed by Bill Clinton which gave government backed mortgages to the unqualified was the main reason for the financial crisis. If you ever saw the movie "Too Big to Fail", you'd understand how it happened. Basically the banks had risky loans, so they bundled them and sold them as "mortgage backed securities", the ones who bought them soon realized that they were toxic and worthless and began to fail, like the above list PLUS Lehman Brothers.

From above:
"Irrational exuberance set in again as many investors took advantage of low rates to buy homes just to resell/flip. Others bought homes they couldn't afford thanks to interest-only loans with zero down. In 2006, the bubble burst as housing prices started to decline. This caught many homeowners off guard, who had taken loans with little money down. As they realized they would lose money by selling the house for less than their mortgage, they foreclosed. An escalating foreclosure rate panicked many banks and hedge funds. They had bought mortgage-backed securities on the secondary market and now we're facing huge losses."

The Congress realized that the banks needed better risk management and passed "The Dodd-Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act is a massive piece of financial reform legislation passed by the Obama administration in 2010 as a response to the financial crisis of 2008." Which put banks back on a sound financial footing.

WELL I"m glad you came to a rational conclusion as regards to the cause of the 2008 Recession...
as you wrote "many investors took advantage of low rates to buy homes just to resell/flip"

Now do you know WHO caused this "irrational exuberance"???
FACT:
in the Buycks-Roberson v. Citibank Fed. Sav. Bank, 1994 suit against redlining. Most significant of all, ACORN was the driving force behind a 1995 regulatory revision pushed through by the Clinton Administration that greatly expanded the CRA (Community Reinvestment Act) and laid the groundwork for the Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac borne financial
crisis we now confront.
Barack Obama was the attorney representing ACORN in this effort. With this new authority, ACORN used its subsidiary, ACORN Housing, to promote subprime loans more aggressively.
-------------------------
In 1999, under pressure from the Clinton administration, Fannie Mae, the nation's largest home mortgage underwriter, relaxed credit requirements on the loans it would purchase from other banks and lenders, hoping that easing these restrictions would result in increased loan availability for minority and low-income buyers.
Unqualified loans backed by Fannie/Freddie were supported by investors buying these loans KNOWING that this is what would happen:
Oct. 23,2008 (Bloomberg) --
Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac have an ``effective'' federal guarantee, not the "full faith and credit'' of the U.S. government, Federal Housing Finance Agency Director James Lockhart said after the hearing. That does give them effectively a guarantee of the U.S. government.''
Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

AND to back up the contention that the housing crisis was caused by Fannie/Freddie "exuberance" to guarantee CRA loans:

17 times the GWB's administration admonitions were GREETED with:
Many prominent Democrats, including House Finance Chairman Barney Frank, opposed any legislation correcting the risks posed by GSEs.
* House Financial Services Committee Chairman Barney Frank (D-MA) criticized the President's warning saying:
"these two entities - Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac - are not facing any kind of financial crisis .
The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms
of affordable housing."...
(Stephen Labaton, "New Agency Proposed To Oversee Freddie Mac And Fannie Mae," New York Times, 9/11/03)

* Senate Committee on Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs Chairman Christopher Dodd also ignored the President's warnings and called
on him to "immediately reconsider his ill-advised" position.
Eric Dash,"Fannie Mae's Offer To Help Ease Credit Squeeze Is Rejected, As Critics Complain Of Opportunism," NYT, 8/11/07)
http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/sam-dealey/2008/09/10/barney-franks-fannie-and-freddie-muddle

SO With Frank and Dodd criticizing the WH for trying to get Freddie/Fannie under control...(SEE above...)
read here what Frank IS NOW SAYING!!!

Barney Frank Comes Home to the Facts By Larry Kudlow August 21, 2010
But one huge exception to this rule is Democrat Barney Frank, chairman of the House Financial Services Committee.
For years, Frank was a staunch supporter of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the giant government housing agencies that played such an enormous role in the
financial meltdown that thrust the economy into the Great Recession.

But in a recent CNBC interview, Frank told me that he was ready to say goodbye to Fannie and Freddie.
"I hope by next year we'll have abolished Fannie and Freddie," he said. Remarkable. And he went on to say that "it was a great mistake to push lower-income people into housing they couldn't afford and couldn't really handle once they had it." He then added, "I had been too sanguine about Fannie and Freddie."

Barney Frank admits truth about Fannie

So in summary...
1) Obama was the lawyer for the 1995 ACORN CRA decision
2) Fannie/Freddie Rham Emmanuel, NOW OBAMA CHIEF OF STAFF and Jamie Gorelick were employees and directors of Fannie and Freddie took between the two took out over $20 million.
Gorelick was appointed Vice Chairman of Federal National Mortgage Association (Fannie Mae) from 1997 to 2003. She served alongside former Clinton Administration official Franklin Raines During that period, Fannie Mae developed a $10 billion accounting scandal.
Gorelick took home $26.46 million in the period from 1998 to 2002 (she left in that year, so she wasn’t there for the entire period under investigation). Of that figure, nearly $15 million came from EPS bonuses.
Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac Invest in Democrats - OpenSecrets News

 

[rightwinger]

I am saddened by the complete ignorance of those on the left with regards to how the economy works. They use the same tired rhetoric their handlers have beaten into their heads...repeated ad nauseum. The tax cuts were for everyone who was paying taxes. The tax cuts have stimulated economic growth in the way of consumer confidence, higher wages and more jobs. It is amazing that supposedly educated people are unable to se this. It just goes to prove that protecting the liberal ideology, not matter how flawed, is more important than actual results.

If a Socialist/Democrat is elected on 2020, the economy will bust. They will blame it on Trump and the liberal lemmings will believe it.

The tax cuts raised the deficit and will and $1.5 trillion in debt
Working Americans saw token decreases while the wealthy and corporations saw 80 percent of the cut

HEY Dummies like you I guess don't consider the realities of how taxes work!

The latest monthly budget report from the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office finds that revenues from federal income taxes were $76 billion higher in the first half of this year, compared with the first half of 2017. That's a 9% jump, even though the lower income tax withholding schedules went into effect in February.

The CBO says the gain "largely reflects increases in wages and salaries."
For the fiscal year as a whole — which started last October — all federal revenues are up by $31 billion. That's a 1.2% in increase over last year, the CBO says.
Income Tax Revenues Are Up 9% As Trump's Pro-Growth Tax Cuts Kick In

NOW Dummy key word..increase in wages and salaries"

But dummies like you don't seem to realize that EMPLOYERS pay the same percentage in payroll taxes as the employee! In other words because you don't understand:
Simple question... do you know how much the employer has to pay for YOUR Medicare/SS payroll tax? I bet you don't know they pay 6.2%... the same as you!
So... NOW how much MORE revenue will the government take in if there are more people working with more employers paying payroll taxes?
It will be and is a FACT... MORE than double what the government will lose in Corporate income taxes. Don't believe me?
Here are the numbers!

As of Aug 2018 161,776,000 compared to Aug 2017 of 153,471,000 or 8,305,000 more people working and paying income and payroll taxes.

https://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/empsit.pdf

In Oct 2017 Average hourly wage was $22.18 United States Average Hourly Wages | 1964-2018 | Data | Chart | Calendar

So in August 2018 at average of 40 hours times $22.18 equals $887.20. A total of $7.4 billion a week more in payroll than in 2017.
Employer and employee PAYROLL TAXES paid per week in Aug 2018 =12.4% or on $887.20 $110.01 per employee
means nearly $1 billion MORE per week in payroll taxes or $52 billion more in a year.

Do you comprehend this? The Federal government by having just 8.3 million MORE people working will gain $52 billion just in payroll taxes!
That's why there is MORE federal revenue coming in than anytime in history...and AFTER the tax cuts.

NOW the above details are TOO MUCH for dummies like you to comprehend BUT the facts are:

1) First, the attacks on 9/11 led to the War on Terror.
That almost doubled annual military spending. It rose from $437.4 billion in 2003 to a peak of $855.1 billion in 2011.
That includes the defense department budget and off-budget emergency spending.
It also includes spending for departments that support defense, such as Homeland Security, the Department of Veterans Affairs, and the National Nuclear Security Administration.

2) Second, mandatory spending has increased.
That means benefit payouts for Social Security, Medicare, and other mandated programs. It's exceeded $2 trillion a year since FY 2011. These payments consume two-thirds
of the revenue each year. Only an Act of Congress that amends a program's benefits can change them. That would require a majority vote in both houses and is unlikely to happen.
Any reduction in benefits takes money out of the pockets of current beneficiaries. The powerful demographic of seniors would vote lawmakers out of office.

3)Third, the Trump tax cut will reduce revenue.
It's reducing the personal income tax rate, corporate taxes, and small business taxes.
These cuts total $1.5 trillion over the next 10 years.
But the Joint Committee on Taxation said the cuts will stimulate growth by 0.7 percent annually.
The increased growth will add revenue, offsetting some of the tax cuts. As a result, the deficit will increase $1 trillion over the next decade.
4 Reasons the U.S. Deficit Is Out of Control


NOW dummy!!!! For you to understand...the key is MORE people are working than ever before.
MEANS more payroll taxes being paid.
Corporate tax cuts MEANS MORE tax revenue because dummies like you didn't seem to realize that
A) Cutting corporate income tax from 35% if you left your profits in the USA ...
therefore there was All told, Fortune 500 corporations are avoiding up to $767 billion in U.S. federal income taxes by holding more than $2.6 trillion of “permanently reinvested”
profits offshore
Fortune 500 Companies Hold a Record $2.6 Trillion Offshore

So how much of that has come back because the cut in corporate taxes to 21%?
All told, the Bureau of Economic Analysis (BEA) reported, some $305.6 billion returned to the U.S. from overseas accounts.
That's a $1.2 trillion annual rate, and far more than the $35 billion one year before.Jun 26, 2018

Thanks To Tax Cuts, Companies' Overseas Profits Flooding Back To U.S.

SO DUMMY... explain to me how the US tax revenue that was being avoided to the tune of over $700 billion annual DUE to being offshore is now being turned around
and these companies are doing:
1) Spending $1.2 trillion annually IN the USA that didn't before!
2) These spending means more construction, more what??? WORKERS paying more payroll taxes AND LESS unemployment benefits going OUT!

BUT all this information means NOTHING to dummies like you that only comprehend headlines and 30 second sound bites!

tl;dr

 

[danielpalos]

solving simple poverty would render this case study a non-issue.

we really just need a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage and unemployment compensation at fourteen dollars an hour.

 

[toomuchtime_]

solving simple poverty would render this case study a non-issue.

we really just need a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage and unemployment compensation at fourteen dollars an hour.

No, what we need is what President Trump has given us, a robust economy in which anyone who wants a job can find one and a labor market so tight, wages will rise naturally as employers compete for the best workers and unemployment has become a lifestyle choice.

 

[danielpalos]

solving simple poverty would render this case study a non-issue.

we really just need a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage and unemployment compensation at fourteen dollars an hour.

No, what we need is what President Trump has given us, a robust economy in which anyone who wants a job can find one and a labor market so tight, wages will rise naturally as employers compete for the best workers and unemployment has become a lifestyle choice.

only in right wing fantasy.

social services cost a lot. simplifying Government can lower that tax burden.

 

[toomuchtime_]

solving simple poverty would render this case study a non-issue.

we really just need a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage and unemployment compensation at fourteen dollars an hour.

No, what we need is what President Trump has given us, a robust economy in which anyone who wants a job can find one and a labor market so tight, wages will rise naturally as employers compete for the best workers and unemployment has become a lifestyle choice.

only in right wing fantasy.

social services cost a lot. simplifying Government can lower that tax burden.

People who are working don't need much in the way of social services. In addition, lowering tax rates and other Trump policies has increased investment in the US economy and a growing economy will produce increased tax revenues. The combination of a growing economy and a lower need for social services should increasingly offset the initial decrease in tax revenues and lower the deficit over the next several years.

 

[healthmyths]

solving simple poverty would render this case study a non-issue.

we really just need a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage and unemployment compensation at fourteen dollars an hour.

So from your perspective an NATIONAL FEDERAL MINIMUM wage of $15.00 would be of help to Hawaiians where they pay 20% more than all Americans for basic goods and services?
What would that do to the fast food restaurants in Mississippi where a 2 bedroom apt rents for $778/mo. whereas a comparable unit in Calif would cost more than $4,000/mo.?

Do you totally understand that the USA is made up of 50 different states most with different standards of living.
So while I have NO problem with a STATE or a business i.e. Amazon setting a minimum wage of $15.00 to force that on ALL states like Mississippi where it would drive small
businesses out of business as they couldn't pay $15.00 is just economically STUPID!

 

[danielpalos]

solving simple poverty would render this case study a non-issue.

we really just need a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage and unemployment compensation at fourteen dollars an hour.

No, what we need is what President Trump has given us, a robust economy in which anyone who wants a job can find one and a labor market so tight, wages will rise naturally as employers compete for the best workers and unemployment has become a lifestyle choice.

only in right wing fantasy.

social services cost a lot. simplifying Government can lower that tax burden.

People who are working don't need much in the way of social services. In addition, lowering tax rates and other Trump policies has increased investment in the US economy and a growing economy will produce increased tax revenues. The combination of a growing economy and a lower need for social services should increasingly offset the initial decrease in tax revenues and lower the deficit over the next several years.

a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage and unemployment compensation for simply being unemployed solves simple poverty in that market friendly manner. you can't get more market friendly than that with our form of Government.

 

[danielpalos]

solving simple poverty would render this case study a non-issue.

we really just need a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage and unemployment compensation at fourteen dollars an hour.

So from your perspective an NATIONAL FEDERAL MINIMUM wage of $15.00 would be of help to Hawaiians where they pay 20% more than all Americans for basic goods and services?
What would that do to the fast food restaurants in Mississippi where a 2 bedroom apt rents for $778/mo. whereas a comparable unit in Calif would cost more than $4,000/mo.?

Do you totally understand that the USA is made up of 50 different states most with different standards of living.
So while I have NO problem with a STATE or a business i.e. Amazon setting a minimum wage of $15.00 to force that on ALL states like Mississippi where it would drive small
businesses out of business as they couldn't pay $15.00 is just economically STUPID!

Sure; States can fix their own Standards. federalists have solutions, not excuses.

 

[TheDude]

Because they don't have the mental capacity to recognize right Vs wrong, good Vs evil, trivial Vs lies, success Vs failure.

 

[BluesLegend]

By almost any measurable metric the United States is flourishing. And in some areas it isn't just flourishing it is stampeding.

It doesn't matter, Dem's above all crave power they will just lie, spin, and twist the Trump presidency as somehow horrible. That worked on previous Rep presidents, it does not work on Trump because Trump won't take their BS lying down. Trump gets in their faces, calls the liberal media out for the lying hacks they are, and routinely brutalizes the Democrats in public.

 

[BluesLegend]

You have to understand how desperate Dem's are for power. Its been 8 years since they controlled the House, ouch!