How can anyone on the left claim Trump has been anything but successful?

By almost any measurable metric the United States is flourishing. And in some areas it isn't just flourishing it is stampeding.
I will grant you that the debt/spending is a huge problem but at least the country as a whole is reaping rewards from it this time. Usually they spend boatloads and we get buptkis out of it (see Obama)
The threat of tariffs and ending trade agreements has even had some positive outcomes so far (Mexico & Canada)

Now I expect you to howl about families split up at the border (while pretending this was new to Trump) and the debt of course but policy wise you got no winning message.
Impressive wall that Mexico paid for...and H. Clinton in prison ......
gossip? their tax cut economics policies are capitally worthless under Any form of Capitalism if they don't cover spending.

A) There is no such word in regards to monetary or economic policies being "capitally"!

capitally
adverb cap·i·tal·ly | \ ˈka-pə-tə-lē , ˈkap-tə- \
Definition of capitally 1: in a manner involving capital punishment 2: in a capital manner : EXCELLENTLY

B) SPENDING... and what it is going towards....

1) First, the attacks on 9/11 led to the War on Terror.
That almost doubled annual military spending. It rose from $437.4 billion in 2003 to a peak of $855.1 billion in 2011.
That includes the defense department budget and off-budget emergency spending.
It also includes spending for departments that support defense, such as Homeland Security, the Department of Veterans Affairs, and the National Nuclear Security Administration.

2) Second, mandatory spending has increased.
That means benefit payouts for Social Security, Medicare, and other mandated programs. It's exceeded $2 trillion a year since FY 2011. These payments consume two-thirds
of the revenue each year. Only an Act of Congress that amends a program's benefits can change them. That would require a majority vote in both houses and is unlikely to happen.
Any reduction in benefits takes money out of the pockets of current beneficiaries. The powerful demographic of seniors would vote lawmakers out of office.

3)Third, the Trump tax cuts will stimulate growth by 0.7 percent annually.
4 Reasons the U.S. Deficit Is Out of Control
how can the right wing be for tax cut economics, with an alleged war on terror going on? there is no power to provide for the general warfare or the common offense.
 
solving simple poverty would render this case study a non-issue.

we really just need a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage and unemployment compensation at fourteen dollars an hour.
No, what we need is what President Trump has given us, a robust economy in which anyone who wants a job can find one and a labor market so tight, wages will rise naturally as employers compete for the best workers and unemployment has become a lifestyle choice.
Still waiting for wages to rise
How could an economy with 3.7 percent unemployment and an almost fifty percent cut in corporate taxes only see a wage increase of 2.7 percent?
If you recall, each month Obama's Labor Department cautioned us that the drop in unemployment was due, at least in part to so many Americans dropping out of the labor force out of despair of ever finding a decent job, and now all those people have come back to the labor force to find jobs, thus swelling the ranks of job seekers and slowing down the rise in wages. A loyal American would be celebrating our new prosperity instead of yearning for the bad old days under Obama.
You do realize that 13 million americans entered the labor force under the Great Obama.......numbers Crooked Donnie can only dream about
People graduated from school, entered the workforce and, as Obama's Labor Department told us, left the workforce because they couldn't find jobs under Obama. Since Trump became president, they have come back into the workforce and found jobs as have additional millions of Americans now graduating from school. In every area except two, Obama was a colossal, even disastrous, failure. The two areas in which he had something to contribute were showing America was ready to elect a black president even if he was a cynical politician with an empty resume, and in providing money allowing doctors and hospitals to digitize medical records.
 
solving simple poverty would render this case study a non-issue.

we really just need a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage and unemployment compensation at fourteen dollars an hour.
No, what we need is what President Trump has given us, a robust economy in which anyone who wants a job can find one and a labor market so tight, wages will rise naturally as employers compete for the best workers and unemployment has become a lifestyle choice.
Still waiting for wages to rise
How could an economy with 3.7 percent unemployment and an almost fifty percent cut in corporate taxes only see a wage increase of 2.7 percent?
If you recall, each month Obama's Labor Department cautioned us that the drop in unemployment was due, at least in part to so many Americans dropping out of the labor force out of despair of ever finding a decent job, and now all those people have come back to the labor force to find jobs, thus swelling the ranks of job seekers and slowing down the rise in wages. A loyal American would be celebrating our new prosperity instead of yearning for the bad old days under Obama.
You do realize that 13 million americans entered the labor force under the Great Obama.......numbers Crooked Donnie can only dream about
People graduated from school, entered the workforce and, as Obama's Labor Department told us, left the workforce because they couldn't find jobs under Obama. Since Trump became president, they have come back into the workforce and found jobs as have additional millions of Americans now graduating from school. In every area except two, Obama was a colossal, even disastrous, failure. The two areas in which he had something to contribute were showing America was ready to elect a black president even if he was a cynical politician with an empty resume, and in providing money allowing doctors and hospitals to digitize medical records.
13 million found jobs under the Great Obama

The problem is crappy salaries
Blame the Capitalists
 
No, what we need is what President Trump has given us, a robust economy in which anyone who wants a job can find one and a labor market so tight, wages will rise naturally as employers compete for the best workers and unemployment has become a lifestyle choice.
Still waiting for wages to rise
How could an economy with 3.7 percent unemployment and an almost fifty percent cut in corporate taxes only see a wage increase of 2.7 percent?
If you recall, each month Obama's Labor Department cautioned us that the drop in unemployment was due, at least in part to so many Americans dropping out of the labor force out of despair of ever finding a decent job, and now all those people have come back to the labor force to find jobs, thus swelling the ranks of job seekers and slowing down the rise in wages. A loyal American would be celebrating our new prosperity instead of yearning for the bad old days under Obama.
You do realize that 13 million americans entered the labor force under the Great Obama.......numbers Crooked Donnie can only dream about
People graduated from school, entered the workforce and, as Obama's Labor Department told us, left the workforce because they couldn't find jobs under Obama. Since Trump became president, they have come back into the workforce and found jobs as have additional millions of Americans now graduating from school. In every area except two, Obama was a colossal, even disastrous, failure. The two areas in which he had something to contribute were showing America was ready to elect a black president even if he was a cynical politician with an empty resume, and in providing money allowing doctors and hospitals to digitize medical records.
13 million found jobs under the Great Obama

The problem is crappy salaries
Blame the Capitalists
And millions more left the workforce in despair under Obama. The problem under Obama was that companies and investment capital left the US for other countries while the Obama government and bots like you prattled about about rich people instead of taking measures to grow the economy and protect American jobs.
 
By almost any measurable metric the United States is flourishing. And in some areas it isn't just flourishing it is stampeding.
I will grant you that the debt/spending is a huge problem but at least the country as a whole is reaping rewards from it this time. Usually they spend boatloads and we get buptkis out of it (see Obama)
The threat of tariffs and ending trade agreements has even had some positive outcomes so far (Mexico & Canada)

Now I expect you to howl about families split up at the border (while pretending this was new to Trump) and the debt of course but policy wise you got no winning message.
Impressive wall that Mexico paid for...and H. Clinton in prison ......
gossip? their tax cut economics policies are capitally worthless under Any form of Capitalism if they don't cover spending.

A) There is no such word in regards to monetary or economic policies being "capitally"!

capitally
adverb cap·i·tal·ly | \ ˈka-pə-tə-lē , ˈkap-tə- \
Definition of capitally 1: in a manner involving capital punishment 2: in a capital manner : EXCELLENTLY

B) SPENDING... and what it is going towards....

1) First, the attacks on 9/11 led to the War on Terror.
That almost doubled annual military spending. It rose from $437.4 billion in 2003 to a peak of $855.1 billion in 2011.
That includes the defense department budget and off-budget emergency spending.
It also includes spending for departments that support defense, such as Homeland Security, the Department of Veterans Affairs, and the National Nuclear Security Administration.

2) Second, mandatory spending has increased.
That means benefit payouts for Social Security, Medicare, and other mandated programs. It's exceeded $2 trillion a year since FY 2011. These payments consume two-thirds
of the revenue each year. Only an Act of Congress that amends a program's benefits can change them. That would require a majority vote in both houses and is unlikely to happen.
Any reduction in benefits takes money out of the pockets of current beneficiaries. The powerful demographic of seniors would vote lawmakers out of office.

3)Third, the Trump tax cuts will stimulate growth by 0.7 percent annually.
4 Reasons the U.S. Deficit Is Out of Control
how can the right wing be for tax cut economics, with an alleged war on terror going on? there is no power to provide for the general warfare or the common offense.

What do you mean "alleged" and also you mean there is ABSOLUTELY ZERO power to "provide for the general warfare"no money, no army, navy,etc.....? There is ZERO?
And then what do you mean "common offense" ? Does THAT MEAN the USA should go and attack Canada, i.e. go on the OFFENSE?? Or attack China, Russia, go on the OFFENSE?
 
solving simple poverty would render this case study a non-issue.

we really just need a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage and unemployment compensation at fourteen dollars an hour.
No, what we need is what President Trump has given us, a robust economy in which anyone who wants a job can find one and a labor market so tight, wages will rise naturally as employers compete for the best workers and unemployment has become a lifestyle choice.
Still waiting for wages to rise
How could an economy with 3.7 percent unemployment and an almost fifty percent cut in corporate taxes only see a wage increase of 2.7 percent?
If you recall, each month Obama's Labor Department cautioned us that the drop in unemployment was due, at least in part to so many Americans dropping out of the labor force out of despair of ever finding a decent job, and now all those people have come back to the labor force to find jobs, thus swelling the ranks of job seekers and slowing down the rise in wages. A loyal American would be celebrating our new prosperity instead of yearning for the bad old days under Obama.
You do realize that 13 million americans entered the labor force under the Great Obama.......numbers Crooked Donnie can only dream about

AND YOU ARE A LIAR!!!!! NO where near 13 million jobs!
A) Where is your proof?
B) When you compare the number of jobs when Obama took office with the total now, the difference is a net gain of 11.3 million jobs
The workforce participation rate has ranged between 62.5% to 63%. That’s significantly lower than the 66% rate before the Great Recession. Workforce participation hasn’t been as low as it’s been lately since the Jimmy Carter-era economic malaise of the 1970s.
How many people have given up on seeking jobs? In 2014, FiveThirtyEight
estimated that 8 million working-age Americans were not employed but also not counted in the unemployment rate because they’d stopped looking for jobs.
Here's What Really Happened to Jobs During the Obama Years
And these people KNEW with a President making statements and policies like these there WoULD BE NO jobs!
Obama-Antibusinessstatements.png
 
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ALL of the financial gains of the last two decades went to the top 10% of incomes. The rest of the workers made no gains.
"Since 1980, U.S. gross domestic product (GDP) per capita has increased 67%, while median household income has only increased by 15%. Median household income is a politically sensitive indicator. ... An economic recession will normally cause household incomes to decrease, often by as much as 10%."

Or, "the rich get richer and the poor get poorer..."

REALLY??? What do you suppose those filthy rich do with all that money??? HMMM... I bet you would bury it in the backyard or under your mattress ...right?
Maybe these rich DO spend it on yachts, speedboats, cars, homes, mansions... parties clothes???

WHERE does THAT money go? Where does the taxes that the rich go, sales tax, income tax property taxes?? Where does it go?
OH yea they bury all their money as you would do I BET!!!!
 
solving simple poverty would render this case study a non-issue.

we really just need a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage and unemployment compensation at fourteen dollars an hour.
No, what we need is what President Trump has given us, a robust economy in which anyone who wants a job can find one and a labor market so tight, wages will rise naturally as employers compete for the best workers and unemployment has become a lifestyle choice.
only in right wing fantasy.

social services cost a lot. simplifying Government can lower that tax burden.
People who are working don't need much in the way of social services. In addition, lowering tax rates and other Trump policies has increased investment in the US economy and a growing economy will produce increased tax revenues. The combination of a growing economy and a lower need for social services should increasingly offset the initial decrease in tax revenues and lower the deficit over the next several years.
Sadly, they do
Do to stagnant wage increases over the last decade, 35 million Americans who are employed require some type of social services

We are subsidizing their employers profits

AGAIN YOU are A LIAR!!! Where is YOUR proof there were 35 million because here is the simple results that YOU should do before you hit the "POST REPLY" dummy!

As of 2016, the U.S. Census Bureau counted about 82.18 million families in the United States
Average family size in the US 1960-2017 | Statista
A 2015 report from the Survey of Income and Program Participation found that, in 2012, 21.8 percent of all U.S. families, on average, participated in at least one major means-tested program per month. The participation rate for one-parent families headed by women, 50 percent, was much higher than that for one-parent families headed by men (29.5 percent) or married-couple families (14.7 percent).1
Program participation and spending patterns of families receiving government means-tested assistance : Monthly Labor Review: U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics

WHAT is 21.8% of 82.18 million???? 17,915,240 NOT 35 million!
ONCE again all you have to do is a simple search and you can not be shown to be not ONLY a LIAR but truly ignorant!
DO some checking before you HIT the "POST REPLY"!
 
No, what we need is what President Trump has given us, a robust economy in which anyone who wants a job can find one and a labor market so tight, wages will rise naturally as employers compete for the best workers and unemployment has become a lifestyle choice.
Still waiting for wages to rise
How could an economy with 3.7 percent unemployment and an almost fifty percent cut in corporate taxes only see a wage increase of 2.7 percent?
If you recall, each month Obama's Labor Department cautioned us that the drop in unemployment was due, at least in part to so many Americans dropping out of the labor force out of despair of ever finding a decent job, and now all those people have come back to the labor force to find jobs, thus swelling the ranks of job seekers and slowing down the rise in wages. A loyal American would be celebrating our new prosperity instead of yearning for the bad old days under Obama.
You do realize that 13 million americans entered the labor force under the Great Obama.......numbers Crooked Donnie can only dream about
People graduated from school, entered the workforce and, as Obama's Labor Department told us, left the workforce because they couldn't find jobs under Obama. Since Trump became president, they have come back into the workforce and found jobs as have additional millions of Americans now graduating from school. In every area except two, Obama was a colossal, even disastrous, failure. The two areas in which he had something to contribute were showing America was ready to elect a black president even if he was a cynical politician with an empty resume, and in providing money allowing doctors and hospitals to digitize medical records.
13 million found jobs under the Great Obama

The problem is crappy salaries
Blame the Capitalists

AND.... Nearly 95% of all new jobs during Obama era were part-time, or contract

A new study by economists from Harvard and Princeton indicates that 94% of the 10 million new jobs created during the Obama era were temporary positions.
The study shows that the jobs were temporary, contract positions, or part-time "gig" jobs in a variety of fields.

shows that the proportion of workers throughout the U.S., during the Obama era, who were working in these kinds of temporary jobs, increased from 10.7% of the population to 15.8%.
Nearly 95% of all new jobs during Obama era were part-time, or contract

NOW do you IDiOTS KNOW WHY??? These were part time or contract jobs???
VERY SIMPLE
Obamacare said if you hire that 50th employee YOU HAVE to have group health insurance plan!
FACT! Employers with 50 – 100 employees were required to provide coverage as of 2016, per the employer mandate. And it was going to have to be compliant with the ACA's small group requirements too.Jan 8, 2018
Are employers required by the Affordable Care Act to purchase group insurance for their employees?

So you are an employer facing the need to hire that new computer programmer!! Job will become the 50th!
So not only NOW will the employer have the salaries of the 50 employees to pay but on average another Coverage with employer health insurance averaged $284 a month per person.
Employer Health Insurance: How Much Should a Company Pay?
All of a sudden now the employer has that 50th employee costing the company $170,400 a year in group health insurance premiums!
Pretty DAMN expensive 50th employee!

HENCE the quote 13 million new JOBS????
95% part time or contract employees where the employer didn't have to have group health insurance!
 
It is so simple to knock dumb people's argument down with the Internet!
Simple searches get answers BEFORE hitting the POST REPLY KEY!!!!

So we learned
A) Obama's 13 million was closer to 11.3 million.
B) That 95% of these "JOBS" were part-time or were contractors where health insurance wasn't needed to be offered by employer.
AND that this was probably the major reason that:
In addition, the average number of people on SNAP every month hit a record high in 2011 -- 44.7 million.
Newt Gingrich says Obama put more people on food stamps than any other U.S. President

Wonder why if there were "JOBS"?
 
It is so simple to knock dumb people's argument down with the Internet!
Simple searches get answers BEFORE hitting the POST REPLY KEY!!!!

So we learned
A) Obama's 13 million was closer to 11.3 million.
B) That 95% of these "JOBS" were part-time or were contractors where health insurance wasn't needed to be offered by employer.
AND that this was probably the major reason that:
In addition, the average number of people on SNAP every month hit a record high in 2011 -- 44.7 million.
Newt Gingrich says Obama put more people on food stamps than any other U.S. President

Wonder why if there were "JOBS"?
Why are deficits increasing so rapidly if more people are working?
 
It is so simple to knock dumb people's argument down with the Internet!
Simple searches get answers BEFORE hitting the POST REPLY KEY!!!!

So we learned
A) Obama's 13 million was closer to 11.3 million.
B) That 95% of these "JOBS" were part-time or were contractors where health insurance wasn't needed to be offered by employer.
AND that this was probably the major reason that:
In addition, the average number of people on SNAP every month hit a record high in 2011 -- 44.7 million.
Newt Gingrich says Obama put more people on food stamps than any other U.S. President

Wonder why if there were "JOBS"?
Why are deficits increasing so rapidly if more people are working?
Income Tax Revenues Are Up 9% As Trump's Pro-Growth Tax Cuts Kick In
The latest monthly budget report from the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office finds that revenues from federal income taxes were $76 billion higher in the first half of this year, compared with the first half of 2017. That's a 9% jump, even though the lower income tax withholding schedules went into effect in February.

The CBO says the gain "largely reflects increases in wages and salaries."

For the fiscal year as a whole — which started last October — all federal revenues are up by $31 billion. That's a 1.2% in increase over last year, the CBO says.

The Treasury Department, which issues a separate monthly report, says it expects federal revenues will continue to exceed last year's for the rest of the 2018 fiscal year.
 
It is so simple to knock dumb people's argument down with the Internet!
Simple searches get answers BEFORE hitting the POST REPLY KEY!!!!

So we learned
A) Obama's 13 million was closer to 11.3 million.
B) That 95% of these "JOBS" were part-time or were contractors where health insurance wasn't needed to be offered by employer.
AND that this was probably the major reason that:
In addition, the average number of people on SNAP every month hit a record high in 2011 -- 44.7 million.
Newt Gingrich says Obama put more people on food stamps than any other U.S. President

Wonder why if there were "JOBS"?
Why are deficits increasing so rapidly if more people are working?
Income Tax Revenues Are Up 9% As Trump's Pro-Growth Tax Cuts Kick In
The latest monthly budget report from the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office finds that revenues from federal income taxes were $76 billion higher in the first half of this year, compared with the first half of 2017. That's a 9% jump, even though the lower income tax withholding schedules went into effect in February.

The CBO says the gain "largely reflects increases in wages and salaries."

For the fiscal year as a whole — which started last October — all federal revenues are up by $31 billion. That's a 1.2% in increase over last year, the CBO says.

The Treasury Department, which issues a separate monthly report, says it expects federal revenues will continue to exceed last year's for the rest of the 2018 fiscal year.
How does that answer the question? Republicans are in full control of the government. Why are deficits increasing so rapidly?
 
How much longer can we afford a trump government? We should be paying down debt in a strong economy.
 
Still waiting for wages to rise
How could an economy with 3.7 percent unemployment and an almost fifty percent cut in corporate taxes only see a wage increase of 2.7 percent?
If you recall, each month Obama's Labor Department cautioned us that the drop in unemployment was due, at least in part to so many Americans dropping out of the labor force out of despair of ever finding a decent job, and now all those people have come back to the labor force to find jobs, thus swelling the ranks of job seekers and slowing down the rise in wages. A loyal American would be celebrating our new prosperity instead of yearning for the bad old days under Obama.
You do realize that 13 million americans entered the labor force under the Great Obama.......numbers Crooked Donnie can only dream about
People graduated from school, entered the workforce and, as Obama's Labor Department told us, left the workforce because they couldn't find jobs under Obama. Since Trump became president, they have come back into the workforce and found jobs as have additional millions of Americans now graduating from school. In every area except two, Obama was a colossal, even disastrous, failure. The two areas in which he had something to contribute were showing America was ready to elect a black president even if he was a cynical politician with an empty resume, and in providing money allowing doctors and hospitals to digitize medical records.
13 million found jobs under the Great Obama

The problem is crappy salaries
Blame the Capitalists
And millions more left the workforce in despair under Obama. The problem under Obama was that companies and investment capital left the US for other countries while the Obama government and bots like you prattled about about rich people instead of taking measures to grow the economy and protect American jobs.
That is ridiculous propaganda
 
U.S. Budget Deficit Widened in August, Treasury Says

The government ran a $214 billion deficit last month, compared with a $107.7 billion budget gap in August 2017, due to a 30% rise in government outlays, the Treasury Department said Thursday.


The spending increase reflected some accounting shifts and calendar quirks and not actual spending changes. For example, Social Security benefit payments that would have been made in September were made in August due to the Labor Day holiday.

Adjusting for these changes, the government said the deficit was $152 billion in August—still 41% larger than in the year-earlier period.

Government receipts fell 3% in August from a year earlier, in part due to a reduction in remittances from the Federal Reserve. Higher interest payments on the debt, a boost in military spending and rising costs associated with Social Security and Medicare all contributed to higher outlays last month.

More broadly, the federal deficit is ballooning as government spending outpaces revenues. The budget gap totaled $898 billion in the first 11 months of the 2018 fiscal year, 33% larger than at the same point in fiscal year 2017. The government’s fiscal year ends Sept. 30.

Last week, the Congressional Budget Office projected a total deficit of $793 billion for fiscal year 2018, compared with a $665 billion deficit in fiscal year 2017, a 19% increase.


Spending is up 7% so far this fiscal year while revenues have risen 1%, the Treasury said. That doesn’t capture the full impact of the Republican tax overhaul that took effect in January, because it includes revenue from October, November and December—the first three months of fiscal year 2018.
 
How much longer can we afford a trump government? We should be paying down debt in a strong economy.
Republicans demanded we pay down debt in the worst recession in 75 years

Now, with a solid economy Republicans escallated the deficit
 
Spending is up..............and the Fed has been raising the rates...........but revenues have risen 1% via the article
 

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