How do we Know Human are Causing Climate Change?

[Dagosa]

How do we Know Human are Causing Climate Change?

Because the climate never changed before we started using fossil fuels?

What a science illiterate answer. The real one is, in the history of man on earth, the climate has never changed so RAPIDLY. OK, you’ve been ”edjacated” . Now stop making ignorant statements.

 

[psikeyhackr]

What a science illiterate answer. The real one is, in the history of man on earth, the climate has never changed so RAPIDLY. OK, you’ve been ”edjacated” . Now stop making ignorant statements.

Not going to work. Edjacation requires penetration. Excessive density makes that impossible.

 

[Dagosa]

Not going to work. Edjacation requires penetration. Excessive density makes that impossible.

Apt description of denier problem with facts. They never did penetrate the natural cranial defense of facts that deniers have.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

What a science illiterate answer. The real one is, in the history of man on earth, the climate has never changed so RAPIDLY. OK, you’ve been ”edjacated” . Now stop making ignorant statements.

The real one is, in the history of man on earth, the climate has never changed so RAPIDLY.

What period of time are you talking about? 250 years? 150? Fewer?

 

[EMH]

Earth has a thermometer = ocean level

Ocean levels rise = planet is warming

Ocean levels sink = planet is cooling


There is NO OCEAN RISE and hence NO ONGOING CLIMATE CHANGE until the ocean level validates it...

 

[psikeyhackr]

The real one is, in the history of man on earth, the climate has never changed so RAPIDLY.

What period of time are you talking about? 250 years? 150? Fewer?

In the period of time over which we have ice core data, about 800,000 years, it has not changed this fast. Moist of the time it has been less than 1 deg C per 1000 years. And CO2 changed at less than 10 ppm per 1000 years.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

In the period of time over which we have ice core data, about 800,000 years, it has not changed this fast. Moist of the time it has been less than 1 deg C per 1000 years. And CO2 changed at less than 10 ppm per 1000 years.

it has not changed this fast.

How fast? Over what period? Be specific.

 

[abu afak]

In the period of time over which we have ice core data, about 800,000 years, it has not changed this fast. Moist of the time it has been less than 1 deg C per 1000 years. And CO2 changed at less than 10 ppm per 1000 years.

How do we know the build-up of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere is caused by humans?​

Fossil fuels are the only source of carbon dioxide large enough to raise atmospheric carbon dioxide amounts so high so quickly.

""...The increase between the year 1800 and today is 70% larger than the increase that occurred when Earth climbed out of the last ice age between 17,500 and 11,500 years ago, and it occurred 100-200 times faster.

In addition, fossil fuels are the only source of carbon consistent with the isotopic fingerprint of the carbon present in today’s atmosphere. That analysis indicates it must be coming from terrestrial plant matter, and it must be very, very old. These and other lines of evidence leave no doubt that fossil fuels are the primary source of the carbon dioxide building up in Earth’s atmosphere."...""
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How do we know the build-up of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere is caused by humans? | NOAA Climate.gov​

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[2aguy]

it has not changed this fast.

How fast? Over what period? Be specific.

But then that

How do we know the build-up of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere is caused by humans?​

Fossil fuels are the only source of carbon dioxide large enough to raise atmospheric carbon dioxide amounts so high so quickly.

""...The increase between the year 1800 and today is 70% larger than the increase that occurred when Earth climbed out of the last ice age between 17,500 and 11,500 years ago, and it occurred 100-200 times faster.

In addition, fossil fuels are the only source of carbon consistent with the isotopic fingerprint of the carbon present in today’s atmosphere. That analysis indicates it must be coming from terrestrial plant matter, and it must be very, very old. These and other lines of evidence leave no doubt that fossil fuels are the primary source of the carbon dioxide building up in Earth’s atmosphere."...""
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How do we know the build-up of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere is caused by humans? | NOAA Climate.gov​

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Yeah.......keep buying the lie.....give up your money, your freedom and your standard of living...so that the priests of the man made global warming religion can keep living in ocean front mansions....

NOAA...what a joke......let's play a game...which of their bureaucrats are not taking bribes from governments from around the 3rd world looking for 1st world hand outs....

 

[psikeyhackr]

it has not changed this fast.

How fast? Over what period? Be specific.

You can download the data:

800,000-year Ice-Core Records of Atmospheric Carbon Dioxide (CO2)

Carbon Dioxide Information Analysis Center

cdiac.ess-dive.lbl.gov

This is the absurd thing about these threads. Anyone that actually honestly wants can get it for themselves.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

You can download the data:

800,000-year Ice-Core Records of Atmospheric Carbon Dioxide (CO2)

Carbon Dioxide Information Analysis Center

cdiac.ess-dive.lbl.gov

This is the absurd thing about these threads. Anyone that actually honestly wants can get it for themselves.

I want to know how fast you're saying the temperature increased over what period?
Then we can look at the data.

Are you worried about the last 100 years? 200? 250?

 

[psikeyhackr]

Are you worried about the last 100 years? 200? 250?

I am too old to be worried. Worry doesn't deal with problems anyway. I presume finding this was beyond your intellectual capacity.

This only goes to 2019. I am looking at 1965 to 2019. It is +1 deg C in 54 years and 3 years out of date. Are you happy now? Are you saying that you have never seen this graph before?

Global Temperature Report for 2019 - Berkeley Earth

We conclude that 2019 was the second warmest year on Earth since 1850.

berkeleyearth.org

 

[EMH]

I am too old to be worried. Worry doesn't deal with problems anyway. I presume finding this was beyond your intellectual capacity.

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This only goes to 2019. I am looking at 1965 to 2019. It is +1 deg C in 54 years and 3 years out of date. Are you happy now? Are you saying that you have never seen this graph before?

Global Temperature Report for 2019 - Berkeley Earth

We conclude that 2019 was the second warmest year on Earth since 1850.

berkeleyearth.org

Fudge and urban heat sink effect.


NO WARMING in the ATMOSPHERE
NO WARMING in the OCEANS
NO ongoing net ice melt, hence
NO OCEAN RISE
NO BREAKOUT IN CANES

 

[EMH]

You can download the data:

800,000-year Ice-Core Records of Atmospheric Carbon Dioxide (CO2)

Carbon Dioxide Information Analysis Center

cdiac.ess-dive.lbl.gov

This is the absurd thing about these threads. Anyone that actually honestly wants can get it for themselves.

Those ice cores show that Co2 is a LAGGING INDICATOR not a cause...

The British Court affirmed that in 2007...

Court Identifies Eleven Inaccuracies in Al Gore’s ‘An Inconvenient Truth’

Here's something American media are virtually guaranteed to not report: a British court has determined that Al Gore's schlockumentary "An Inconvenient Truth" contains at least eleven material falsehoods. It seems a safe bet Matt Lauer and Diane Sawyer won't be discussing this Tuesday morning...

www.newsbusters.org

• The film claims that melting snows on Mount Kilimanjaro evidence global warming. The Government's expert was forced to concede that this is not correct.

• The film suggests that evidence from ice cores proves that rising CO2 causes temperature increases over 650,000 years. The Court found that the film was misleading: over that period the rises in CO2 lagged behind the temperature rises by 800-2000 years.

• The film uses emotive images of Hurricane Katrina and suggests that this has been caused by global warming. The Government's expert had to accept that it was "not possible" to attribute one-off events to global warming.
• The film shows the drying up of Lake Chad and claims that this was caused by global warming. The Government's expert had to accept that this was not the case.
• The film claims that a study showed that polar bears had drowned due to disappearing arctic ice. It turned out that Mr Gore had misread the study: in fact four polar bears drowned and this was because of a particularly violent storm.
• The film threatens that global warming could stop the Gulf Stream throwing Europe into an ice age: the Claimant's evidence was that this was a scientific impossibility.
• The film blames global warming for species losses including coral reef bleaching. The Government could not find any evidence to support this claim.
• The film suggests that the Greenland ice covering could melt causing sea levels to rise dangerously. The evidence is that Greenland will not melt for millennia.

• The film suggests that the Antarctic ice covering is melting, the evidence was that it is in fact increasing.

• The film suggests that sea levels could rise by 7m causing the displacement of millions of people. In fact the evidence is that sea levels are expected to rise by about 40cm over the next hundred years and that there is no such threat of massive migration.
• The film claims that rising sea levels has caused the evacuation of certain Pacific islands to New Zealand. The Government are unable to substantiate this and the Court observed that this appears to be a false claim.

 

[Fueri]

Just Urban Heat Sink Effect, that urban areas warm on the surface where they grow (where ALL of the Co2 fraud's real unfudged warming comes from)


Co2 is not warming the atmosphere and neither is Urban Heat = THEORY REJECTED

The science is not settled. Science is never settled. I think the climate doomsayers are largely blowing things way out of proportion to go to the bank and expand power, but stating unequvocally that we know this or that is as an unreasonable position as is "do what we tell you to do or we're doomed.."

 

[2aguy]

Those ice cores show that Co2 is a LAGGING INDICATOR not a cause...

The British Court affirmed that in 2007...

Court Identifies Eleven Inaccuracies in Al Gore’s ‘An Inconvenient Truth’

Here's something American media are virtually guaranteed to not report: a British court has determined that Al Gore's schlockumentary "An Inconvenient Truth" contains at least eleven material falsehoods. It seems a safe bet Matt Lauer and Diane Sawyer won't be discussing this Tuesday morning...

www.newsbusters.org

• The film claims that melting snows on Mount Kilimanjaro evidence global warming. The Government's expert was forced to concede that this is not correct.

• The film suggests that evidence from ice cores proves that rising CO2 causes temperature increases over 650,000 years. The Court found that the film was misleading: over that period the rises in CO2 lagged behind the temperature rises by 800-2000 years.

• The film uses emotive images of Hurricane Katrina and suggests that this has been caused by global warming. The Government's expert had to accept that it was "not possible" to attribute one-off events to global warming.
• The film shows the drying up of Lake Chad and claims that this was caused by global warming. The Government's expert had to accept that this was not the case.
• The film claims that a study showed that polar bears had drowned due to disappearing arctic ice. It turned out that Mr Gore had misread the study: in fact four polar bears drowned and this was because of a particularly violent storm.
• The film threatens that global warming could stop the Gulf Stream throwing Europe into an ice age: the Claimant's evidence was that this was a scientific impossibility.
• The film blames global warming for species losses including coral reef bleaching. The Government could not find any evidence to support this claim.
• The film suggests that the Greenland ice covering could melt causing sea levels to rise dangerously. The evidence is that Greenland will not melt for millennia.

• The film suggests that the Antarctic ice covering is melting, the evidence was that it is in fact increasing.

• The film suggests that sea levels could rise by 7m causing the displacement of millions of people. In fact the evidence is that sea levels are expected to rise by about 40cm over the next hundred years and that there is no such threat of massive migration.
• The film claims that rising sea levels has caused the evacuation of certain Pacific islands to New Zealand. The Government are unable to substantiate this and the Court observed that this appears to be a false claim.

Kilamanjaro was correctly attributed to loss of trees not global warming

 

[2aguy]

Those ice cores show that Co2 is a LAGGING INDICATOR not a cause...

The British Court affirmed that in 2007...

Court Identifies Eleven Inaccuracies in Al Gore’s ‘An Inconvenient Truth’

Here's something American media are virtually guaranteed to not report: a British court has determined that Al Gore's schlockumentary "An Inconvenient Truth" contains at least eleven material falsehoods. It seems a safe bet Matt Lauer and Diane Sawyer won't be discussing this Tuesday morning...

www.newsbusters.org

• The film claims that melting snows on Mount Kilimanjaro evidence global warming. The Government's expert was forced to concede that this is not correct.

• The film suggests that evidence from ice cores proves that rising CO2 causes temperature increases over 650,000 years. The Court found that the film was misleading: over that period the rises in CO2 lagged behind the temperature rises by 800-2000 years.

• The film uses emotive images of Hurricane Katrina and suggests that this has been caused by global warming. The Government's expert had to accept that it was "not possible" to attribute one-off events to global warming.
• The film shows the drying up of Lake Chad and claims that this was caused by global warming. The Government's expert had to accept that this was not the case.
• The film claims that a study showed that polar bears had drowned due to disappearing arctic ice. It turned out that Mr Gore had misread the study: in fact four polar bears drowned and this was because of a particularly violent storm.
• The film threatens that global warming could stop the Gulf Stream throwing Europe into an ice age: the Claimant's evidence was that this was a scientific impossibility.
• The film blames global warming for species losses including coral reef bleaching. The Government could not find any evidence to support this claim.
• The film suggests that the Greenland ice covering could melt causing sea levels to rise dangerously. The evidence is that Greenland will not melt for millennia.

• The film suggests that the Antarctic ice covering is melting, the evidence was that it is in fact increasing.

• The film suggests that sea levels could rise by 7m causing the displacement of millions of people. In fact the evidence is that sea levels are expected to rise by about 40cm over the next hundred years and that there is no such threat of massive migration.
• The film claims that rising sea levels has caused the evacuation of certain Pacific islands to New Zealand. The Government are unable to substantiate this and the Court observed that this appears to be a false claim.

Defirestation by Tanzanian natives, not global warming.......

Deforestation threatens Kilimanjaro ice cap

At the foot of Africa's snow-capped Mount Kilimanjaro, images of the mountain adorn the sides of rusting zinc shacks and beer bottle labels, but the fate of the real version hangs in the balance.

www.reuters.com

 

[EMH]

Defirestation by Tanzanian natives, not global warming.......

Deforestation threatens Kilimanjaro ice cap

At the foot of Africa's snow-capped Mount Kilimanjaro, images of the mountain adorn the sides of rusting zinc shacks and beer bottle labels, but the fate of the real version hangs in the balance.

www.reuters.com

One mountain "melting" vs. court certified and data certified

90% of Earth ice, 8 million cubic miles of ice on Antarctica INCREASING

 

[EMH]

The science is not settled. Science is never settled. I think the climate doomsayers are largely blowing things way out of proportion to go to the bank and expand power, but stating unequvocally that we know this or that is as an unreasonable position as is "do what we tell you to do or we're doomed.."

To you it isn't.

Satellites and balloons documented NO WARMING IN THE ATMOSPHERE despite rising Co2 = THEORY REJECTED

What does cause Earth climate change = tectonic plate movement/ land position near the poles

Two polar oceans = Earth has NO ICE

Two polar continents = two Antarcticas = Earth has 2 times the ice it does now

 

[Fueri]

To you it isn't.

Satellites and balloons documented NO WARMING IN THE ATMOSPHERE despite rising Co2 = THEORY REJECTED

What does cause Earth climate change = tectonic plate movement/ land position near the poles

Two polar oceans = Earth has NO ICE

Two polar continents = two Antarcticas = Earth has 2 times the ice it does now

Science is never settled.

Debating that is an indefensible position.