How has Trump hurt or harmed you personally, tangibly, or physically?

[Deno]

Ok Democrats, progressives, liberals, leftists, and socialists. Here's your chance to unload on President Trump. Please tell me if you can, exactly what has President Trump done to hurt, harm, or damage you personally, tangibly, or materially?

I don't mean vague idealistic concepts like "He messin' wit muh constutunal rights" or "Trump cheated muh HIllary."

I mean just what has Trump done to hurt you materially, to take something away from you, or to make your life worse off that it was before?

This Damn Trump economy is killing me….

I'm so busy at work I can’t scratch my ass…

 

[boilermaker55]

You still have no clue to what you are talking about do you shit-for-brains.
Try again.

What are you also talking about numb-nuts?

Smelling snowflaky as well as trolly in here.

 

[boilermaker55]

However, you lie for one thing, but you will still kiss tRumps ass all day long.

Ok Democrats, progressives, liberals, leftists, and socialists. Here's your chance to unload on President Trump. Please tell me if you can, exactly what has President Trump done to hurt, harm, or damage you personally, tangibly, or materially?

I don't mean vague idealistic concepts like "He messin' wit muh constutunal rights" or "Trump cheated muh HIllary."

I mean just what has Trump done to hurt you materially, to take something away from you, or to make your life worse off that it was before?

This Damn Trump economy is killing me….

I'm so busy at work I can’t scratch my ass…

 

[bendog]

Ok Democrats, progressives, liberals, leftists, and socialists. Here's your chance to unload on President Trump. Please tell me if you can, exactly what has President Trump done to hurt, harm, or damage you personally, tangibly, or materially?

I don't mean vague idealistic concepts like "He messin' wit muh constutunal rights" or "Trump cheated muh HIllary."

I mean just what has Trump done to hurt you materially, to take something away from you, or to make your life worse off that it was before?

On the 22nd of Jan 2018 Trump issued his first tariffs showing that he was stupid enough to start a trade war. On that day the DJI was at 26,214.60. 407 days later it is at 25,814.55.

On that same day the S&P 500 was at 2,832.97, 407 days later it is at 2,791.67.

On that same day the NASDAQ was at 6,906.28, 407 days later it is at 7,154.91.

So, 407 days of stagnation in the financial markets. That is 407 days of little to no growth for my 401ks, that is 407 days of little to no growth for my investment portfolios.

That is 407 days of preparing for retirement that has been wasted thanks to a stupid, unneeded trade war. 407 days that we cannot get back.

You were issued a guarantee of growth for your 401k?

Of course not.

But again the question was asked in what tangible way I have been hurt. I gave an answer. My 401k grew slower due to Trump's actions, this is undeniable.

Actually, it is deniable. I am not saying that the tariffs did not harm the markets, but unless you remove any and all other possible reasons, then it is very deniable.

Without a guarantee of success, then you assume the risk which means you are as much at fault as he is if you chose the wrong investments.

I get what you are saying, but the reply by that other poster about the national debt actually has more validity to it. We each will have to pay more for the debt that is being wracked up.

i agree 100% about the debt, but I have tried in the past to show how it hurts me now and got shouted down every time, so thought I would try something a bit more tangible.

I submit that it's not actually debt. The taxcuts are no longer defensible because they did not produce the 4% growth they were justified with. And it's not even that, alone. It's coupled with the Fed unwinding QE in which it bought US debt. The fed is not repurchasing them as they mature. Someone will buy them, but at WHAT interest rate.

"Referring again to the Fed’s schedule in the appendix, you will see that the numbers we are talking about here are hardly trivial. Assuming the programme gets underway in October, the Fed stands to retire $300bn in FY2018 and $600bn in FY2019. For reference, $600 billion is roughly equivalent to the federal budget deficit last year. According to the US Office of Management & Budget, the deficit is projected to average $519 billion per year between 2017 and 2021. This is before making any allowance for President Trump’s plans for both tax cuts and increased spending, so the numbers could be significantly higher.

Collectively, this equates to a massive amount of new supply – $2 trillion or higher in the next two years. This is the equivalent of literally doubling the size of the budget deficit out to 2021. While we have little doubt that these bonds will be bought, the question is at what price, or more specifically, what yield? The levels of compensation bond investors currently receive across the risk spectrum range from negligible in real terms (government bonds) to among the lowest in history (high yield). To an extent, this is a consequence of the artificial suppression of yields elicited by central banks through QE.

With a significant increase in supply hitting the market in coming years and the largest uneconomic buyer exiting stage left, pressure should build for yields to move higher."

https://www.schroders.com/en/us/insights/multi-asset/how-frightening-is-quantitative-tightening/

It's an old link but there's a reason the Fed's hiked rates 6 or 7 times since then. And we consumers are awash in debt.

Trump knows debt, and how not to pay it. He also knows that so long as we have nominal growth and low rates he should get re-elected. After all, he is NOT Hillary Clinton. But does he know macroeconomics? Janet Yellen says Nyet.

 

[Lesh]

Ok Democrats, progressives, liberals, leftists, and socialists. Here's your chance to unload on President Trump. Please tell me if you can, exactly what has President Trump done to hurt, harm, or damage you personally, tangibly, or materially?

I don't mean vague idealistic concepts like "He messin' wit muh constutunal rights" or "Trump cheated muh HIllary."

I mean just what has Trump done to hurt you materially, to take something away from you, or to make your life worse off that it was before?

Stop whining about people not worshipping your cult leader...

I bet yo dumb ass asked this same question about Bush in the past....look at you now...

They are attempting to prove Trump has improved lives. That's like saying Trump is the reason unemployment is low. It's false, and demonstrably so. Even Trump is shitting himself over rising interest rates. Low inflation, moderate growth and a stable dollar have caused the econ to be where it is.

Gator is right that the stock market has gone flat since Trump initiated his "trade wars." But assuming the dow rose another 20% and we had uncertainty in rates and Europe ......

stock market being flat doesn't mean bad things at all. trading still takes place and citizens are making a lot of money. so what? why are you anti america?

You think a flat stock market helps a 401K? Are you that fucking stuid?

Prior to Trump my 40 was growing steadily. This last year it actually lost money. And guess what?

Funny thing about 401s. They trail the market...but only in one direction.

They drop when the market drops and lag the climb.

Know why?

Because money managers are "risk averse" and lock in losses on drops out of fear and buy back in only after the market has begun to recover.

You might have noted that your 401 did not remain flat while the market did. That's because it wasn't actually "flat" at all. There were lots of drops and recoveries in that year . So while the market is only slightly lower than a year ago...your 401 dropped by more than that.
Money managers make what is considered a "rookie mistake" out of fear of failure.

 

[jc456]

Ok Democrats, progressives, liberals, leftists, and socialists. Here's your chance to unload on President Trump. Please tell me if you can, exactly what has President Trump done to hurt, harm, or damage you personally, tangibly, or materially?

I don't mean vague idealistic concepts like "He messin' wit muh constutunal rights" or "Trump cheated muh HIllary."

I mean just what has Trump done to hurt you materially, to take something away from you, or to make your life worse off that it was before?

Stop whining about people not worshipping your cult leader...

I bet yo dumb ass asked this same question about Bush in the past....look at you now...

They are attempting to prove Trump has improved lives. That's like saying Trump is the reason unemployment is low. It's false, and demonstrably so. Even Trump is shitting himself over rising interest rates. Low inflation, moderate growth and a stable dollar have caused the econ to be where it is.

Gator is right that the stock market has gone flat since Trump initiated his "trade wars." But assuming the dow rose another 20% and we had uncertainty in rates and Europe ......

stock market being flat doesn't mean bad things at all. trading still takes place and citizens are making a lot of money. so what? why are you anti america?

You think a flat stock market helps a 401K? Are you that fucking stuid?

Prior to Trump my 40 was growing steadily. This last year it actually lost money. And guess what?

Funny thing about 401s. They trail the market...but only in one direction.

They drop when the market drops and lag the climb.

Know why?

Because money managers are "risk averse" and lock in losses on drops out of fear and buy back in only after the market has begun to recover.

You might have noted that your 401 did not remain flat while the market did. That's because it wasn't actually "flat" at all. There were lots of drops and recoveries in that year . So while the market is only slightly lower than a year ago...your 401 dropped by more than that.
Money managers make what is considered a "rookie mistake" out of fear of failure.

dude, seriously. you have no idea how the stock market functions. Let me ask you, do you think no stocks are traded, bought or sold because the market is flat? is that what you believe?

 

[Deno]

boilermaker55

I’m sure you would love to nuzzle obozo’s balls you flucked up Tard…..

However, you lie for one thing, but you will still kiss tRumps ass all day long.

Ok Democrats, progressives, liberals, leftists, and socialists. Here's your chance to unload on President Trump. Please tell me if you can, exactly what has President Trump done to hurt, harm, or damage you personally, tangibly, or materially?

I don't mean vague idealistic concepts like "He messin' wit muh constutunal rights" or "Trump cheated muh HIllary."

I mean just what has Trump done to hurt you materially, to take something away from you, or to make your life worse off that it was before?

This Damn Trump economy is killing me….

I'm so busy at work I can’t scratch my ass…

 

[Clipper]

Ok Democrats, progressives, liberals, leftists, and socialists. Here's your chance to unload on President Trump. Please tell me if you can, exactly what has President Trump done to hurt, harm, or damage you personally, tangibly, or materially?

I don't mean vague idealistic concepts like "He messin' wit muh constutunal rights" or "Trump cheated muh HIllary."

I mean just what has Trump done to hurt you materially, to take something away from you, or to make your life worse off that it was before?

He's breathing air that I need.

 

[boilermaker55]

Little-dick boy, settle down. We all know you swallow from the faucet of tRump, you know you like the mushroom part.
Kneel again.

boilermaker55

I’m sure you would love to nuzzle obozo’s balls you flucked up Tard…..

However, you lie for one thing, but you will still kiss tRumps ass all day long.

Ok Democrats, progressives, liberals, leftists, and socialists. Here's your chance to unload on President Trump. Please tell me if you can, exactly what has President Trump done to hurt, harm, or damage you personally, tangibly, or materially?

I don't mean vague idealistic concepts like "He messin' wit muh constutunal rights" or "Trump cheated muh HIllary."

I mean just what has Trump done to hurt you materially, to take something away from you, or to make your life worse off that it was before?

This Damn Trump economy is killing me….

I'm so busy at work I can’t scratch my ass…

 

[Deno]

butt muncher55......

You are one jism drunk Tard……

Trump blasts you in the face and then he bends you over…

He bangs you Tards so hard your pussy hats falls off….

Little-dick boy, settle down. We all know you swallow from the faucet of tRump, you know you like the mushroom part.
Kneel again.

boilermaker55

I’m sure you would love to nuzzle obozo’s balls you flucked up Tard…..

However, you lie for one thing, but you will still kiss tRumps ass all day long.

Ok Democrats, progressives, liberals, leftists, and socialists. Here's your chance to unload on President Trump. Please tell me if you can, exactly what has President Trump done to hurt, harm, or damage you personally, tangibly, or materially?

I don't mean vague idealistic concepts like "He messin' wit muh constutunal rights" or "Trump cheated muh HIllary."

I mean just what has Trump done to hurt you materially, to take something away from you, or to make your life worse off that it was before?

This Damn Trump economy is killing me….

I'm so busy at work I can’t scratch my ass…

 

[tycho1572]

Ok Democrats, progressives, liberals, leftists, and socialists. Here's your chance to unload on President Trump. Please tell me if you can, exactly what has President Trump done to hurt, harm, or damage you personally, tangibly, or materially?

I don't mean vague idealistic concepts like "He messin' wit muh constutunal rights" or "Trump cheated muh HIllary."

I mean just what has Trump done to hurt you materially, to take something away from you, or to make your life worse off that it was before?

Let’s hear from a typical leftist.....

 

[JGalt]

Ok Democrats, progressives, liberals, leftists, and socialists. Here's your chance to unload on President Trump. Please tell me if you can, exactly what has President Trump done to hurt, harm, or damage you personally, tangibly, or materially?

I don't mean vague idealistic concepts like "He messin' wit muh constutunal rights" or "Trump cheated muh HIllary."

I mean just what has Trump done to hurt you materially, to take something away from you, or to make your life worse off that it was before?

Let’s hear from a typical leftist.....

"Thar she blows..."

 

[boilermaker55]

Nah, that is what happens to you, sp#tmpburper. You love the taste of tRump.
It's very evident.Turdswallower.
So, settle down a little, you can help yourself c*ntface.

butt muncher55......

You are one jism drunk Tard……

Trump blasts you in the face and then he bends you over…

He bangs you Tards so hard your pussy hats falls off….

Little-dick boy, settle down. We all know you swallow from the faucet of tRump, you know you like the mushroom part.
Kneel again.

boilermaker55

I’m sure you would love to nuzzle obozo’s balls you flucked up Tard…..

However, you lie for one thing, but you will still kiss tRumps ass all day long.

Ok Democrats, progressives, liberals, leftists, and socialists. Here's your chance to unload on President Trump. Please tell me if you can, exactly what has President Trump done to hurt, harm, or damage you personally, tangibly, or materially?

I don't mean vague idealistic concepts like "He messin' wit muh constutunal rights" or "Trump cheated muh HIllary."

I mean just what has Trump done to hurt you materially, to take something away from you, or to make your life worse off that it was before?

This Damn Trump economy is killing me….

I'm so busy at work I can’t scratch my ass…

 

[Deno]

Rave on you idiot...…….

Nah, that is what happens to you, sp#tmpburper. You love the taste of tRump.
It's very evident.Turdswallower.
So, settle down a little, you can help yourself c*ntface.

butt muncher55......

You are one jism drunk Tard……

Trump blasts you in the face and then he bends you over…

He bangs you Tards so hard your pussy hats falls off….

Little-dick boy, settle down. We all know you swallow from the faucet of tRump, you know you like the mushroom part.
Kneel again.

boilermaker55

I’m sure you would love to nuzzle obozo’s balls you flucked up Tard…..

However, you lie for one thing, but you will still kiss tRumps ass all day long.

This Damn Trump economy is killing me….

I'm so busy at work I can’t scratch my ass…

 

[boilermaker55]

Rave on you idiot...…….

Nah, that is what happens to you, sp#tmpburper. You love the taste of tRump.
It's very evident.Turdswallower.
So, settle down a little, you can help yourself c*ntface.

butt muncher55......

You are one jism drunk Tard……

Trump blasts you in the face and then he bends you over…

He bangs you Tards so hard your pussy hats falls off….

Little-dick boy, settle down. We all know you swallow from the faucet of tRump, you know you like the mushroom part.
Kneel again.

boilermaker55

I’m sure you would love to nuzzle obozo’s balls you flucked up Tard…..

However, you lie for one thing, but you will still kiss tRumps ass all day long.

 

[Stephen Brandon]

Ok Democrats, progressives, liberals, leftists, and socialists. Here's your chance to unload on President Trump. Please tell me if you can, exactly what has President Trump done to hurt, harm, or damage you personally, tangibly, or materially?

I don't mean vague idealistic concepts like "He messin' wit muh constutunal rights" or "Trump cheated muh HIllary."

I mean just what has Trump done to hurt you materially, to take something away from you, or to make your life worse off that it was before?

On the 22nd of Jan 2018 Trump issued his first tariffs showing that he was stupid enough to start a trade war. On that day the DJI was at 26,214.60. 407 days later it is at 25,814.55.

On that same day the S&P 500 was at 2,832.97, 407 days later it is at 2,791.67.

On that same day the NASDAQ was at 6,906.28, 407 days later it is at 7,154.91.

So, 407 days of stagnation in the financial markets. That is 407 days of little to no growth for my 401ks, that is 407 days of little to no growth for my investment portfolios.

That is 407 days of preparing for retirement that has been wasted thanks to a stupid, unneeded trade war. 407 days that we cannot get back.

I hate to tell you your 401k will go up and down and sideways many many times in your life and that has very little to do with who is president. The movement of the US stock market is largely based on speculation and attributed to news events to try to make some sense of it. You're better off putting your money in real estate in my opinion.

 

[Votto]

Ok Democrats, progressives, liberals, leftists, and socialists. Here's your chance to unload on President Trump. Please tell me if you can, exactly what has President Trump done to hurt, harm, or damage you personally, tangibly, or materially?

I don't mean vague idealistic concepts like "He messin' wit muh constutunal rights" or "Trump cheated muh HIllary."

I mean just what has Trump done to hurt you materially, to take something away from you, or to make your life worse off that it was before?

On the 22nd of Jan 2018 Trump issued his first tariffs showing that he was stupid enough to start a trade war. On that day the DJI was at 26,214.60. 407 days later it is at 25,814.55.

On that same day the S&P 500 was at 2,832.97, 407 days later it is at 2,791.67.

On that same day the NASDAQ was at 6,906.28, 407 days later it is at 7,154.91.

So, 407 days of stagnation in the financial markets. That is 407 days of little to no growth for my 401ks, that is 407 days of little to no growth for my investment portfolios.

That is 407 days of preparing for retirement that has been wasted thanks to a stupid, unneeded trade war. 407 days that we cannot get back.

 

[Stephen Brandon]

Ok Democrats, progressives, liberals, leftists, and socialists. Here's your chance to unload on President Trump. Please tell me if you can, exactly what has President Trump done to hurt, harm, or damage you personally, tangibly, or materially?

I don't mean vague idealistic concepts like "He messin' wit muh constutunal rights" or "Trump cheated muh HIllary."

I mean just what has Trump done to hurt you materially, to take something away from you, or to make your life worse off that it was before?

His dingo ate my baby!

 

[Votto]

He is making us more in debt. He embarrasses me a lot.

Dick Cheney said Reagan proved deficits no longer matter.

See, the GOP does not care about massive debt either.

Now AOC wants to spend $93 trillion to stop the naturally occurring gas carbon dioxide from destroying the planet.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Ok Democrats, progressives, liberals, leftists, and socialists. Here's your chance to unload on President Trump. Please tell me if you can, exactly what has President Trump done to hurt, harm, or damage you personally, tangibly, or materially?

I don't mean vague idealistic concepts like "He messin' wit muh constutunal rights" or "Trump cheated muh HIllary."

I mean just what has Trump done to hurt you materially, to take something away from you, or to make your life worse off that it was before?

On the 22nd of Jan 2018 Trump issued his first tariffs showing that he was stupid enough to start a trade war. On that day the DJI was at 26,214.60. 407 days later it is at 25,814.55.

On that same day the S&P 500 was at 2,832.97, 407 days later it is at 2,791.67.

On that same day the NASDAQ was at 6,906.28, 407 days later it is at 7,154.91.

So, 407 days of stagnation in the financial markets. That is 407 days of little to no growth for my 401ks, that is 407 days of little to no growth for my investment portfolios.

That is 407 days of preparing for retirement that has been wasted thanks to a stupid, unneeded trade war. 407 days that we cannot get back.

I hate to tell you your 401k will go up and down and sideways many many times in your life and that has very little to do with who is president. The movement of the US stock market is largely based on speculation and attributed to news events to try to make some sense of it. You're better off putting your money in real estate in my opinion.

I am well aware of how the markets work, which is why I understand the damage this stupid trade war has done to them.