Toddsterpatriot
Diamond Member
Honestly, I have an okay (not great, but I'm not totally ignorant either) understanding of money creation and I'm having a hard time following you two.Jesus. Loans create deposits. Your entire argument isn't even attacking that.Todd, does a bank take from its deposits to loan?Banks do not lend out deposits
How long does the lending bank remain in business with $0 deposits?
Todd, does a bank take from its deposits to loan?
Where else would the money come from to clear the check?
My understanding is that a bank receives a deposit from a client. The bank then generally keeps a certain % of that deposit stored (based off of laws or the bank's policies) and then seeks to loan out or invest the rest. As an example, let's say Todd deposits $100 in Bank [US]. Bank [US] has a policy of keeping 20% of deposits and looking to loan the rest. Kiin goes to Bank [US] wanting a loan. Bank [US] loans Kiin $80. In this scenario Bank [US] has just created $80 for the economy.
Banks create 100% of the loan, not 90%. For a $1000 loan, the bank creates a $1000 deposit (their liability) and a $1000+ promissory note (their asset). The 10% that you think is set aside is actually just their reserve requirement increasing by $100. And reserve transactions happen within the walls of the Fed - banks never touch those reserves.
Here's where deposits come in: to your bank, they are a cheap source of reserves, nothing more. When you deposit a check (drawn on a different bank) for $150, your bank marks up your account by $150 (a liability to your bank), and the Fed transfers $150 from the other bank's reserve account to your bank's reserve account. Assets = liabilities, and the bank's position doesn't change. But now, because of the deposit, your bank has $135 in excess reserves, and they probably aren't paying you any interest, either.
Without your deposit, the bank could still make the loan; their reserve account doesn't have to be brought up until days later.
And reserve transactions happen within the walls of the Fed - banks never touch those reserves.
Banks touch reserves all the time.