How legitimate is the US government?

Everyone in government serving more than two terms is MORALLY illegitimate.

Good luck starting a revolution over such a silly idea.

The Founding Fathers including and especially George Washington did not think it was such a silly idea, and large portion of citizens would support term limits for elected officials.

Those who oppose or think term limits are silly, obviously never heard the expression "power corrupts".
 
Everyone in government serving more than two terms is MORALLY illegitimate.

Good luck starting a revolution over such a silly idea.

The Founding Fathers including and especially George Washington did not think it was such a silly idea, and large portion of citizens would support term limits for elected officials.

Those who oppose or think term limits are silly, obviously never heard the expression "power corrupts".

We have term limits

2 years for a Congressman and 6 years for a Senator. After that, they start all over
 
Good luck starting a revolution over such a silly idea.

The Founding Fathers including and especially George Washington did not think it was such a silly idea, and large portion of citizens would support term limits for elected officials.

Those who oppose or think term limits are silly, obviously never heard the expression "power corrupts".

We have term limits

2 years for a Congressman and 6 years for a Senator. After that, they start all over

"Term limit" inexplicably and strangely means limit of the number of terms, not the number of years. You know, like the President.

Your hair-splitting is childish.
 
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The Founding Fathers including and especially George Washington did not think it was such a silly idea, and large portion of citizens would support term limits for elected officials.

Those who oppose or think term limits are silly, obviously never heard the expression "power corrupts".

We have term limits

2 years for a Congressman and 6 years for a Senator. After that, they start all over

"Term limit" inexplicably and strangely means limit of the number of terms, not the number of years. You know, like the President.

Your hair-splitting is childish.

Let the voters decide how many terms they want from their representatives. Term Limits are for those losers who can't get elected without them
 
HOW LEGITIMATE IS AMERICAN GOVERNMENT?

The government is legitimate when it's engaged in Constitutionally authorized activities, it's not when it is engaged in activities not Constitutionally authorized. So the vast majority of it today is illegitimate.

That people vote for people who promise illegitimate functions of government such as welfare, redistribution of income and military to police the world rather than defend the United States doesn't make it legitimate. Only the process of 2/3, 2/3 and 3/4 can make an illegitimate function legitimate.
 
HOW LEGITIMATE IS AMERICAN GOVERNMENT? supposedly it is elected by the people but what percentage of population participates in elections any more? The media, which claims to not be a part of the establishment, but rather a government critic, claims that it's more than half the population, but there is very good evidence indicating that the media is a part of the establishment, so we can never really know. And the media always claims before each elections about how the race is very tight and how important it is to go out and vote, how every vote counts. Further more, if the media criticizes the government so much, then question comes to mind, what percentage of population dislikes the government, and vote against politicians rather than for them? And if majority votes against the politicians, then isn't it more logical to have a referendum on the government, rather than forcing people to vote for one politician just to vote against another politician? And with all the government critics, the experts on television - why doesn't anyone ever bring up the idea of a referendum on this government? is this something only a government is allowed to do? or are they all in bed with the government, and understand that criticizing it will not hurt it, but only distract any opposition? - I believe the answer is obvious.

But let us not expect the masses of people to understand this - They are too preoccupied about coming up with money to pay their bills and taxes. They are too discouraged by all the politicians and activists who keep asking for donations. It is up to us, the small group of people who truly care about justice to bring forth this referendum.

This makes no sense whatsoever and serves only to exhibit the OP's comprehensive ignorance of American government.
 
FWIW, I agree with you about the lack of participation by 40%-50% of eligible voters represents a significant threat to the "popular acceptance of an authority", but I wonder if injecting a few dozen third-party candidates from both poles of the political spectrum into the House of Representatives next November might give more Americans an incentive to vote.

These candidates already exist on many ballots across the country.

It will not get me back to vote, because I have lost faith in any fair elections hosted by the establishment - just because you put a write in option in some precincts, or even a button with my favorite candidate's name in other's, that does not make the nation wide elections legitimate - it is still the same joke.


Well yes...but you would vote for Farrakhan so you don't count.
 
The per cent who vote is a disgrace, and part of the long time Pub cynicism campaign...

OP- very legitimate, except for the braindead House- where the Dems got 3 million more votes and lost, a gerrymandered obscenity.

ANOTHER LSM/PPM SECRET...SO WHY IS OUR MEDIA NUMBER 46 AGAIN lol...

The ignorant and uninformed voting doesn't make us a better country, quite the reverse
 
We have term limits

2 years for a Congressman and 6 years for a Senator. After that, they start all over

"Term limit" inexplicably and strangely means limit of the number of terms, not the number of years. You know, like the President.

Your hair-splitting is childish.

Let the voters decide how many terms they want from their representatives. Term Limits are for those losers who can't get elected without them

And no term limits is for those who are already corrupted by power or those who sell their soul and dignity for the same, while hypocritically tell you that they are there to serve you.

The most glaring example of the necessity of term limits is FDR, (actually, that mental cripple WAS the reason for term limits) and several ego maniacal and power hungry assholes on both sides of the aisle.
 
"Term limit" inexplicably and strangely means limit of the number of terms, not the number of years. You know, like the President.

Your hair-splitting is childish.

Let the voters decide how many terms they want from their representatives. Term Limits are for those losers who can't get elected without them

And no term limits is for those who are already corrupted by power or those who sell their soul and dignity for the same, while hypocritically tell you that they are there to serve you.

The most glaring example of the necessity of term limits is FDR, (actually, that mental cripple WAS the reason for term limits) and several ego maniacal and power hungry assholes on both sides of the aisle.

If you don't like an elected official.....beat him fair and square in an election
It has happened thousands of times in our history
 
HOW LEGITIMATE IS AMERICAN GOVERNMENT? supposedly it is elected by the people but what percentage of population participates in elections any more? The media, which claims to not be a part of the establishment, but rather a government critic, claims that it's more than half the population, but there is very good evidence indicating that the media is a part of the establishment, so we can never really know. And the media always claims before each elections about how the race is very tight and how important it is to go out and vote, how every vote counts. Further more, if the media criticizes the government so much, then question comes to mind, what percentage of population dislikes the government, and vote against politicians rather than for them? And if majority votes against the politicians, then isn't it more logical to have a referendum on the government, rather than forcing people to vote for one politician just to vote against another politician? And with all the government critics, the experts on television - why doesn't anyone ever bring up the idea of a referendum on this government? is this something only a government is allowed to do? or are they all in bed with the government, and understand that criticizing it will not hurt it, but only distract any opposition? - I believe the answer is obvious.

But let us not expect the masses of people to understand this - They are too preoccupied about coming up with money to pay their bills and taxes. They are too discouraged by all the politicians and activists who keep asking for donations. It is up to us, the small group of people who truly care about justice to bring forth this referendum.

Making no decision is to make a decision. People who don't go to the polls to vote have cast their vote for whatever the rest of us vote in as the status quo. You can't force people to go to the polls. And many people are really not able to make an informed choice due to illness. The US government is plenty legitimate. If you didn't vote for anyone, don't grouse at me. You should have gone to the polls when you had your chance. Your choice not to choose was your choice to accept whomever is chosen by those who chose to choose.
 
HOW LEGITIMATE IS AMERICAN GOVERNMENT?

1. The government is legitimate when it's engaged in Constitutionally authorized activities, it's not when it is engaged in activities not Constitutionally authorized. So the vast majority of it today is illegitimate.

2. That people vote for people who promise illegitimate functions of government such as welfare, redistribution of income and military to police the world rather than defend the United States doesn't make it legitimate. Only the process of 2/3, 2/3 and 3/4 can make an illegitimate function legitimate.
1. Thank you.
2. I just want you to know that I was swindled into voting for a war criminal in 2000 who promised us no nation building? do you really need a video proof? just YouTube George Bush you forgot. and in 2004, I had no choice but to vote for another war criminal because there was no write in option, only few pre selected names to vote for, I wanted to vote for Nader, but only Kerry was on the ballot, and both times I wished I could just vote AGAINST the politicians I hated instead of voting FOR the politicians I did not like. Hope you get my point and spread this truth.
 
If you don't like an elected official.....beat him fair and square in an election
It has happened thousands of times in our history
I just want you to know that in USSR we also used to have elections, and so did people in Iraq, but for whatever reason, USA needed to use force in those nations to bring changes, while these puppets such as Hillary Clinton, John McCain, John Kerry and other old farts have been sitting in Washington for decades
 
HOW LEGITIMATE IS AMERICAN GOVERNMENT?
Making no decision is to make a decision. People who don't go to the polls to vote have cast their vote for whatever the rest of us vote in as the status quo.
Because I got tired of explaining myself to people like you, I made a video - if you have comment, you can post it, but the video explains why I will never be voting in establishment hosted US elections again:

[ame=http://youtu.be/3DvwMrRzrPw]Fraud They call Democratic Elections in America (same I'm sure in other axis of democracy nations) - YouTube[/ame]
 
Our system today allows all people to vote if they want and are eligible.
If you lived 230 years ago in the USA, that would not be the case.
 
FWIW, I agree with you about the lack of participation by 40%-50% of eligible voters represents a significant threat to the "popular acceptance of an authority", but I wonder if injecting a few dozen third-party candidates from both poles of the political spectrum into the House of Representatives next November might give more Americans an incentive to vote.

These candidates already exist on many ballots across the country.

It will not get me back to vote, because I have lost faith in any fair elections hosted by the establishment - just because you put a write in option in some precincts, or even a button with my favorite candidate's name in other's, that does not make the nation wide elections legitimate - it is still the same joke.

There's no doubt "one person; one vote" in the US is becoming more comical with each passing election, but I'm not clear about how more non-voters make the situation any less tragic.

I would suggest you reject Republicans AND Democrats but renew your subscription to voting:


"Current U.S. third parties[edit]

"Main article: List of political parties in the United States
This list does not include political organizations that do not run candidates for office but otherwise function similarly to third parties..."

"Largest (voter registration over 75,000)[edit]
Libertarian Party - Libertarianism, laissez-faire, pro-civil rights, anti-war
Green Party of the United States - Green politics, eco-socialism, progressivism
Constitution Party - Social conservatism, religious right, paleoconservatism"

Third party (United States) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
Our system today allows all people to vote if they want and are eligible.
If you lived 230 years ago in the USA, that would not be the case.
All people were also allowed to vote under Saddam Hussein in Iraq, and all people were allowed to vote in USSR - I even remember some government men came to our house and asked us how come we are not voting for mister Andropov
 

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