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What are you babbling about? it is fact that people needing foodstamps has increased.You're an idiot and you are trying to change the subject. I specifically talked about able-bodied people. Fucking read it again.
I excluded the disabled, elderly and truly needy people who have no choice when I talked about how the welfare system should be reformed.
If you have issues with reading comprehension, that is your problem, but don't put pictures up of people I stated I was not talking about and pretend it is some kind of argument.
The point is that your points are meaningless. What percentage of TANF, WIC, and SNAP recipients are able bodied and have decided to not work because they recieve aid?
By the time you've excluded disabled, elderly, and truly needy people, exactly what percentage are you talking about and what is the distributions for "liberal" and "conservative" states?
That is the fucking point. You have no actual information to base your unqualified narrative. You've started with bullshit and done nothing to verify if it has any actual meaning.
In the mean time, I've found tons of real data. At the federal level, it can be found at
Search results | Office of Family Assistance | Administration for Children and Families[2377]=2377&topic[2353]=2353
and
FNS Program Data - SNAP (Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program)
Research and Analysis | Food and Nutrition Service
And so far as I've seen so far, you are talking out of your ass.
Not a charge of the federal government.. and you, as an adult, are responsible for you OWN education and any expense that comes from it
Get the fed OUT of education
Then why have ANY public schools, at any level of government?
Why not let all education be market priced, with no taxpayer subsidy whatsoever, and thus create a really huge gap between the haves and the havenots when it comes to education;
that will better reflect the kind of society you want us to have won't it?
Because if the states or localities wish to find it in their way at their standards, that is their right.. it is not a function of the federal government... 10th amendment then states that since it is not, it is for the states or the individuals to handle
If liberal policies keep people in poverty, then ending liberal policies would cause people to get out of poverty.
To prove that isn't bullshit,
you have to identify the liberal policies, assume that they were ended, and then demonstrate how people then get out of poverty because the policies were ended.
That's how an argument works. Or in this case, doesn't work.
It's not about doing away with welfare, it's about changing things and expecting people to do more in order for their lives to improve. Taking the welfare to work requirement out of the system is just one way that liberals help ease people into dependency permanently.
There is proof that the liberal way doesn't work. Doubling welfare rolls and few getting out of poverty means that either they suck at helping people or they are intentionally encouraging people to stay on welfare.
I recall one woman who was on welfare and had a few children. She found a job and intended to become self-sufficient. The welfare office told her that she would immediately lose all benefits if she did that. Then they told her that if she stayed on welfare longer, they would help pay for child care. If that type of thing isn't enticement, then I don't know what is.
If a person chooses to get a job, the system doesn't help ease them out of welfare, it spits them out if they get big ideas about making it on their own. It's crazy that the longer they are on it, the more bennies they get. Many might pass on the job opportunity simply because it's smoother sailing to stay put.
Liberals keep saying that welfare doesn't offer enough, though in some states it would take at least a $45,000 salary to fund the housing, food, medical, free cell phones and other benefits they receive. It's clear that liberals want people totally comfortable on welfare and there is absolutely no incentive to leave that for a job that wouldn't afford them the same standard of living.
My son, who graduated college last year, makes less than half of what it would take to pay for one small family on welfare. He still pays taxes, lives in a tiny apartment and started at minimum wage for a good company. He has already gotten a raise and promoted to a higher position. Long way to go, but he's doing things the old fashioned way. I'm sure he'd like to live in a bigger home, have cheaper healthcare, more money for food and no charge for his cell phone. He has too much pride to take from others and would rather go without until he earns it. Most of us were that way years ago. Yet, the liberals see my son as a tax payer who needs to pay his fair share and the people who get twice as much as he does without working as more worthy of his earnings. Why do they punish those who work and still say they aren't doing enough while those idle people just keep having more kids and expect a bigger check for their trouble?
How many lifetime, 5th generation welfare recipients even graduated high school? How many would even qualify for a decent job or have the skills to move up? What is their incentive to leave the liberal plantation and do with less until they earn a higher salary?
The left knows exactly what they are doing. Welfare rolls have doubled on Obama's watch as jobs disappeared and more young people headed to the welfare office instead of school. And they want to keep going down this path knowing that it doesn't work. Able-bodied people should have to work for welfare. There are plenty of jobs they could do that would save local tax payers money. If they knew they had to work to obtain any kind of welfare, they'd probably just get a job to begin with and not look to welfare as a first choice for survival. It should be a last resort. Knowing that work was in the future one way or the other, young people would opt to stay in school and increase their chances of getting a better job instead of just having kids to get a check.
If there aren't some kind of consequences for stupid decisions, there is nothing to stop young people from making them.
the Social Security Act was enacted in 1935. The act, which was amended in 1939, established a number of programs designed to provide aid to various segments of the population. Unemployment compensation and AFDC (originally Aid to Dependent Children) are two of the programs that still exist today.
Do you have an example of another country that has no welfare system and low poverty rates?
Do you have an example of another country that has no welfare system and low poverty rates?
15 Shocking Poverty Statistics That Are Skyrocketing as the American Middle Class Continues To Be Slowly Wiped Out
As millions more Americans continue to climb on to the "safety net", how long is it going to be before it breaks?
The reality is that the system can only support so many people. We are now at a point where our anti-poverty programs are clearly unsustainable in the long-term, but nobody has a solution for how we are going to get all of these people off of these programs or how we are going to provide good jobs for all of them.
The cost of every U.S. government anti-poverty program is absolutely soaring. Meanwhile, the U.S. government is already running a budget deficit that is approaching 1.5 trillion dollars every year. If you cannot understand that we have a very serious problem on our hands then you are probably not awake."
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Thanantos - works as a convenience store clerk
Templar - Unemployed and living at home
and the list goes on....
These people are advocating for people who don't give a shit about them. They are the poor and lower middle class of our country and yet they have actually been brainwashed to blame themselves for the problem of our country. Yet, they for some reason can't see what's happening.
I am a manager of a convenience store fuck nugget . If your going to make fun of my job get the title correct welfare queen.
Then you are in an income bracket that at the national level mostly votes Democrat.
You people keep making the nonsensical claim that Democrats want to keep the poor poor so that they'll keep voting Democrat;
the fact is that when poor people move out of poverty, they move into working class, lower middle class income brackets, for the most part,
and those brackets ALSO vote Democrat, for the most part. The absurd notion that Democrats need to keep people poor for the votes doesn't even make sense mathematically.
Never heard of that company. What service did they provide?
You're a grown adult who stocks shelves at a convenience store. Be careful about who you call a blithering fool.
He's an Honest Adult - who doesn't pretend to be something he's not which is more than can be said for you - ridiculing what somebody does for a living is pretty damn low - I surprised you didn't call him a dirty Paki or soem facsimile
I'm ridiculing him for being an idiot.
What are you babbling about? it is fact that people needing foodstamps has increased.The point is that your points are meaningless. What percentage of TANF, WIC, and SNAP recipients are able bodied and have decided to not work because they recieve aid?
By the time you've excluded disabled, elderly, and truly needy people, exactly what percentage are you talking about and what is the distributions for "liberal" and "conservative" states?
That is the fucking point. You have no actual information to base your unqualified narrative. You've started with bullshit and done nothing to verify if it has any actual meaning.
In the mean time, I've found tons of real data. At the federal level, it can be found at
Search results | Office of Family Assistance | Administration for Children and Families[2377]=2377&topic[2353]=2353
and
FNS Program Data - SNAP (Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program)
Research and Analysis | Food and Nutrition Service
And so far as I've seen so far, you are talking out of your ass.
You can't read, apparently. Of course people needing foodstamps has increased, population has increased. Unemployment increased on the recession of '09. The labor force participation rate has fallen since 2000.
See how it works? Dates, numbers.... It is called "counting". Source data..... it's called "facts".
So, how much has SNAP increased and why? That is the point, idiot.
Oh, I already presented the facts for you...
I am a manager of a convenience store fuck nugget . If your going to make fun of my job get the title correct welfare queen.
Then you are in an income bracket that at the national level mostly votes Democrat.
You people keep making the nonsensical claim that Democrats want to keep the poor poor so that they'll keep voting Democrat;
the fact is that when poor people move out of poverty, they move into working class, lower middle class income brackets, for the most part,
and those brackets ALSO vote Democrat, for the most part. The absurd notion that Democrats need to keep people poor for the votes doesn't even make sense mathematically.
Sorry but I am not in a caste system where I have no free will. I know liberal policy doesn't help the poor it keeps them poor
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What are you babbling about? it is fact that people needing foodstamps has increased.
You can't read, apparently. Of course people needing foodstamps has increased, population has increased. Unemployment increased on the recession of '09. The labor force participation rate has fallen since 2000.
See how it works? Dates, numbers.... It is called "counting". Source data..... it's called "facts".
So, how much has SNAP increased and why? That is the point, idiot.
Oh, I already presented the facts for you...
Lol you blame the poor on population?
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While the use of food stamps has grown since the economic crash of 2008, the amount of some types of fraud associated with it have gone down. According to a new study conducted by the US Department of Agriculture, the instances of trafficking fraud have increased. However, the actual percentage of this particular type of fraud has dropped by four percent since the 1990’s.
Do you have an example of another country that has no welfare system and low poverty rates?
15 Shocking Poverty Statistics That Are Skyrocketing as the American Middle Class Continues To Be Slowly Wiped Out
As millions more Americans continue to climb on to the "safety net", how long is it going to be before it breaks?
The reality is that the system can only support so many people. We are now at a point where our anti-poverty programs are clearly unsustainable in the long-term, but nobody has a solution for how we are going to get all of these people off of these programs or how we are going to provide good jobs for all of them.
The cost of every U.S. government anti-poverty program is absolutely soaring. Meanwhile, the U.S. government is already running a budget deficit that is approaching 1.5 trillion dollars every year. If you cannot understand that we have a very serious problem on our hands then you are probably not awake."
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Do you have an example of another country that has no welfare system and low poverty rates?
15 Shocking Poverty Statistics That Are Skyrocketing as the American Middle Class Continues To Be Slowly Wiped Out
As millions more Americans continue to climb on to the "safety net", how long is it going to be before it breaks?
The reality is that the system can only support so many people. We are now at a point where our anti-poverty programs are clearly unsustainable in the long-term, but nobody has a solution for how we are going to get all of these people off of these programs or how we are going to provide good jobs for all of them.
The cost of every U.S. government anti-poverty program is absolutely soaring. Meanwhile, the U.S. government is already running a budget deficit that is approaching 1.5 trillion dollars every year. If you cannot understand that we have a very serious problem on our hands then you are probably not awake."
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What does your response have to do with the question I asked and you quoted?
Nothing. Thanks for proving my point.
15 Shocking Poverty Statistics That Are Skyrocketing as the American Middle Class Continues To Be Slowly Wiped Out
As millions more Americans continue to climb on to the "safety net", how long is it going to be before it breaks?
The reality is that the system can only support so many people. We are now at a point where our anti-poverty programs are clearly unsustainable in the long-term, but nobody has a solution for how we are going to get all of these people off of these programs or how we are going to provide good jobs for all of them.
The cost of every U.S. government anti-poverty program is absolutely soaring. Meanwhile, the U.S. government is already running a budget deficit that is approaching 1.5 trillion dollars every year. If you cannot understand that we have a very serious problem on our hands then you are probably not awake."
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What does your response have to do with the question I asked and you quoted?
Nothing. Thanks for proving my point.
That you proposals constitute pure madness.
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Jesus said that " the poor will always be with you " That is because the dumb, lazy, criminal minded, nuts, and their enablers will always be among us. However, when you reward irresponsibility you get more of it, and that is precisely what liberal policies do at the expense of the tax payer. If you want less of something - punish it.
Okay. So take Medicaid and food stamps away from the poor.
How soon before, en masse, they start getting less poor?
