How Many Lies Did Obama Tell Tonight?

He has nothing to lose at this point i don't know why people act like he does. He Can basically do what he wants as this is his second term and Veto everything he disagrees with.

What he has to lose is his legacy. It's already tarnished. If he vetoes everything the duly elected representatives of the House and Senate send him he will see that legacy go up in flames.

Whether liberals like it or not, the mid terms were an overwhelming rejection of Obama's policies. President Clinton had the gravitas to understand that when it happened to him and he turned his whole Presidency around by working positively with Congress and the Senate.


He's been trying to work with them for six years. The election was only overwhelming if you don't consider the tiny number of people who voted. Not many more than you would expect in an election for Homecoming Queen.

Democrat base stayed home. And R's have only had the House for 4 years and Obama used Reid to block bills coming to the Senate floor.

Obama's legacy will be that he was President of only liberal America and not a President for all of America.

Sad.
If the Democrats had just taken back congress, they would be telling everyone that all of the good news in the economy was because of them being in charge. Instead Obama, who had nothing to do with any of it, tried to take credit for it in front of a house full of people that know he didn't have anything to do with it. From what I've heard of his childhood, this wouldn't be the first time. Obama was obviously living in a fantasy world where Al Qaeda and ISIS doesn't exist anymore, and all of the damage he's done to millions of families around the country never happened.
 
He has nothing to lose at this point i don't know why people act like he does. He Can basically do what he wants as this is his second term and Veto everything he disagrees with.

What he has to lose is his legacy. It's already tarnished. If he vetoes everything the duly elected representatives of the House and Senate send him he will see that legacy go up in flames.

Whether liberals like it or not, the mid terms were an overwhelming rejection of Obama's policies. President Clinton had the gravitas to understand that when it happened to him and he turned his whole Presidency around by working positively with Congress and the Senate.


He's been trying to work with them for six years. The election was only overwhelming if you don't consider the tiny number of people who voted. Not many more than you would expect in an election for Homecoming Queen.
Neither side has tried to work with the other
 
He has nothing to lose at this point i don't know why people act like he does. He Can basically do what he wants as this is his second term and Veto everything he disagrees with.

What he has to lose is his legacy. It's already tarnished. If he vetoes everything the duly elected representatives of the House and Senate send him he will see that legacy go up in flames.

Whether liberals like it or not, the mid terms were an overwhelming rejection of Obama's policies. President Clinton had the gravitas to understand that when it happened to him and he turned his whole Presidency around by working positively with Congress and the Senate.


He's been trying to work with them for six years. The election was only overwhelming if you don't consider the tiny number of people who voted. Not many more than you would expect in an election for Homecoming Queen.
Neither side has tried to work with the other
Bullshit. Democrats have refused to work with Republicans since 2000. They have been like an enemy among us doing everything they can to bring this country down in reality and in the eyes of the world. The latest example was Sen Dianne Feinstein badmouthing our intelligence agencies. There was no call for that. If anything, that stuff needs to be handled behind closed doors, not blasted to the whole planet.
 
Obama did not attempt to work with Republicans. He spent all the time bashing them. Reid blocked bills passed by the house and refused to call a vote on them in the senate. They all lied about Republicans having no ideas about healthcare or anything else. There were plenty that got completely ignored by the Dems.



Oh no. another Republican who lives in the world of excuses and denial.

Hey, you think Obama has been"bashing" Repubs before? LMAO You ain't seen nothing yet. He's gonna beat you asshole Repubs over the head with a baseball bat.

This phrasing of the issue of helping the middle class by taxing the richest Americans more, is a winning position.
And for you Repubs to do nothing but protect those ultra wealthy........like I said, he's gonna use a ball bat on you all. Beat you silly.

And make it inevitable that a Democrat be in the WH next time to oversee the continuing recovery of our economy.

Obama's playing chess, The Turtle and the Tan Man are looking for the checkers.
 
Liberals on this site always crow in unison whenever Obama gives a speech, as if a speech fixes everything he fucked up. At the same time Obama was talking about decimating Al Qaeda, Yemen is falling to them. Obama giving a positive speech cannot fire one shot in the war on terror THAT WE ARE LOSING BIG-TIME!!!

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Bullshit. Democrats have refused to work with Republicans since 2000.



Oh boohoo. Did Rethugs use the filibuster a record number of times or not? Yes they did, That's all you need to know about which party didn't want to work with the other one.
 
cannot fire one shot in the war on terror THAT WE ARE LOSING BIG-TIME!!!




RUN MUDDY RUN HIDE THE TERRORISTS ARE AT YOUR FRONT DOOR. GET EM MUDDY. THEY'RE EVERYWHERE THEY'RE EVERYWHERE.

Excuses for the failure of the Republicans is what you've been reduced to dude. Nothing but lies and excuses.
 
He's been trying to work with them for six years. The election was only overwhelming if you don't consider the tiny number of people who voted. Not many more than you would expect in an election for Homecoming Queen.


It means that people didn't support his agenda and did not go out and vote for more of it. Where were all his supporters?

Obama did not attempt to work with Republicans. He spent all the time bashing them. Reid blocked bills passed by the house and refused to call a vote on them in the senate. They all lied about Republicans having no ideas about healthcare or anything else. There were plenty that got completely ignored by the Dems.

In the speech, he seemed to be promising more free stuff and intends to go after the wealthy to pay for all of it. That never pans out, so here comes more debt.

He had the gall to act like he has helped the economy. It's the private sector responsible for the little improvement and that is despite Obama's attempts to go after the oil companies. Gas prices are low because of them, not him. He's already talking more gas taxes. Of course, the government dependents don't have to fill their tanks often to drive to work, so they probably don't care.


You're full of shit. I keep hearing about free stuff. What free stuff? Republicans are the ones wanting a higher gas tax you dumbass.
Top Republican open to gas tax increase - Jan. 5 2015

Senator Dick Durbin as well as several other Dem's wants higher gas taxes.
This is not just one sided in the Senate.
So far there is not enough votes in the house to pass a bill like that.
 
He has nothing to lose at this point i don't know why people act like he does. He Can basically do what he wants as this is his second term and Veto everything he disagrees with.

What he has to lose is his legacy. It's already tarnished. If he vetoes everything the duly elected representatives of the House and Senate send him he will see that legacy go up in flames.

Whether liberals like it or not, the mid terms were an overwhelming rejection of Obama's policies. President Clinton had the gravitas to understand that when it happened to him and he turned his whole Presidency around by working positively with Congress and the Senate.


He's been trying to work with them for six years. The election was only overwhelming if you don't consider the tiny number of people who voted. Not many more than you would expect in an election for Homecoming Queen.
Neither side has tried to work with the other
Bullshit. Democrats have refused to work with Republicans since 2000. They have been like an enemy among us doing everything they can to bring this country down in reality and in the eyes of the world. The latest example was Sen Dianne Feinstein badmouthing our intelligence agencies. There was no call for that. If anything, that stuff needs to be handled behind closed doors, not blasted to the whole planet.
And, in response, republicans have vowed to block the dems at every turn.
Just saying it has been tit for tat.
Repubs got the brunt of it for the last few years. Now it's the Dems' turn to see shit ran past them.
I hope The Obama uses veto power, just to see it go back and pass anyway
 
He has nothing to lose at this point i don't know why people act like he does. He Can basically do what he wants as this is his second term and Veto everything he disagrees with.

What he has to lose is his legacy. It's already tarnished. If he vetoes everything the duly elected representatives of the House and Senate send him he will see that legacy go up in flames.

Whether liberals like it or not, the mid terms were an overwhelming rejection of Obama's policies. President Clinton had the gravitas to understand that when it happened to him and he turned his whole Presidency around by working positively with Congress and the Senate.


He's been trying to work with them for six years. The election was only overwhelming if you don't consider the tiny number of people who voted. Not many more than you would expect in an election for Homecoming Queen.
Neither side has tried to work with the other
Bullshit. Democrats have refused to work with Republicans since 2000. They have been like an enemy among us doing everything they can to bring this country down in reality and in the eyes of the world. The latest example was Sen Dianne Feinstein badmouthing our intelligence agencies. There was no call for that. If anything, that stuff needs to be handled behind closed doors, not blasted to the whole planet.
And, in response, republicans have vowed to block the dems at every turn.
Just saying it has been tit for tat.
Repubs got the brunt of it for the last few years. Now it's the Dems' turn to see shit ran past them.
I hope The Obama uses veto power, just to see it go back and pass anyway
Democrats have been specializing in proposals that a sane person would reject and then finding a way of making the GOP look bad in rejecting it. Immigration is a prime example.
 
What he has to lose is his legacy. It's already tarnished. If he vetoes everything the duly elected representatives of the House and Senate send him he will see that legacy go up in flames.

Whether liberals like it or not, the mid terms were an overwhelming rejection of Obama's policies. President Clinton had the gravitas to understand that when it happened to him and he turned his whole Presidency around by working positively with Congress and the Senate.


He's been trying to work with them for six years. The election was only overwhelming if you don't consider the tiny number of people who voted. Not many more than you would expect in an election for Homecoming Queen.
Neither side has tried to work with the other
Bullshit. Democrats have refused to work with Republicans since 2000. They have been like an enemy among us doing everything they can to bring this country down in reality and in the eyes of the world. The latest example was Sen Dianne Feinstein badmouthing our intelligence agencies. There was no call for that. If anything, that stuff needs to be handled behind closed doors, not blasted to the whole planet.
And, in response, republicans have vowed to block the dems at every turn.
Just saying it has been tit for tat.
Repubs got the brunt of it for the last few years. Now it's the Dems' turn to see shit ran past them.
I hope The Obama uses veto power, just to see it go back and pass anyway
Democrats have been specializing in proposals that a sane person would reject and then finding a way of making the GOP look bad in rejecting it. Immigration is a prime example.
I'm not disagreeing with that at all old friend.
Just can't find the Rs blameless, either

:cool:
 
LOL. So let's go back to those wonderful sunny days at the end of the Bush years when we all were enjoying the fantastic financial success that the Bush Policies had created for this nation. I am sure the GOP would love to replicate that astounding success.

I believe they would. By now, in their minds, everything was rosy. That is the thing about republicans. They can easily pretend something was either much better or much worse depending on their whim. Facts and reality don't really matter.
 
What he has to lose is his legacy. It's already tarnished. If he vetoes everything the duly elected representatives of the House and Senate send him he will see that legacy go up in flames.

Whether liberals like it or not, the mid terms were an overwhelming rejection of Obama's policies. President Clinton had the gravitas to understand that when it happened to him and he turned his whole Presidency around by working positively with Congress and the Senate.


He's been trying to work with them for six years. The election was only overwhelming if you don't consider the tiny number of people who voted. Not many more than you would expect in an election for Homecoming Queen.
Neither side has tried to work with the other
Bullshit. Democrats have refused to work with Republicans since 2000. They have been like an enemy among us doing everything they can to bring this country down in reality and in the eyes of the world. The latest example was Sen Dianne Feinstein badmouthing our intelligence agencies. There was no call for that. If anything, that stuff needs to be handled behind closed doors, not blasted to the whole planet.
And, in response, republicans have vowed to block the dems at every turn.
Just saying it has been tit for tat.
Repubs got the brunt of it for the last few years. Now it's the Dems' turn to see shit ran past them.
I hope The Obama uses veto power, just to see it go back and pass anyway
Democrats have been specializing in proposals that a sane person would reject and then finding a way of making the GOP look bad in rejecting it. Immigration is a prime example.

The GOP looks bad all by themselves. No help needed.
 
He has nothing to lose at this point i don't know why people act like he does. He Can basically do what he wants as this is his second term and Veto everything he disagrees with.

What he has to lose is his legacy. It's already tarnished. If he vetoes everything the duly elected representatives of the House and Senate send him he will see that legacy go up in flames.

Whether liberals like it or not, the mid terms were an overwhelming rejection of Obama's policies. President Clinton had the gravitas to understand that when it happened to him and he turned his whole Presidency around by working positively with Congress and the Senate.


He's been trying to work with them for six years. The election was only overwhelming if you don't consider the tiny number of people who voted. Not many more than you would expect in an election for Homecoming Queen.
Neither side has tried to work with the other
Bullshit. Democrats have refused to work with Republicans since 2000. They have been like an enemy among us doing everything they can to bring this country down in reality and in the eyes of the world. The latest example was Sen Dianne Feinstein badmouthing our intelligence agencies. There was no call for that. If anything, that stuff needs to be handled behind closed doors, not blasted to the whole planet.

Republicans had a meeting on inauguration day and decided there would be no cooperation, and since when did a republican have a problem with publicly pointing out anything? Hell, they make stuff up to point out all the time..............Remember BENGHAZIBENGHAZIBENGHAZI?
 
He has nothing to lose at this point i don't know why people act like he does. He Can basically do what he wants as this is his second term and Veto everything he disagrees with.

What he has to lose is his legacy. It's already tarnished. If he vetoes everything the duly elected representatives of the House and Senate send him he will see that legacy go up in flames.

Whether liberals like it or not, the mid terms were an overwhelming rejection of Obama's policies. President Clinton had the gravitas to understand that when it happened to him and he turned his whole Presidency around by working positively with Congress and the Senate.


He's been trying to work with them for six years. The election was only overwhelming if you don't consider the tiny number of people who voted. Not many more than you would expect in an election for Homecoming Queen.
Neither side has tried to work with the other
Bullshit. Democrats have refused to work with Republicans since 2000. They have been like an enemy among us doing everything they can to bring this country down in reality and in the eyes of the world. The latest example was Sen Dianne Feinstein badmouthing our intelligence agencies. There was no call for that. If anything, that stuff needs to be handled behind closed doors, not blasted to the whole planet.

Republicans had a meeting on inauguration day and decided there would be no cooperation, and since when did a republican have a problem with publicly pointing out anything? Hell, they make stuff up to point out all the time..............Remember BENGHAZIBENGHAZIBENGHAZI?
And The Obama just stood in front of our nation and promised to veto any and everything that didn't fit his wealth 're-distribution plans
 
He's been trying to work with them for six years. The election was only overwhelming if you don't consider the tiny number of people who voted. Not many more than you would expect in an election for Homecoming Queen.


It means that people didn't support his agenda and did not go out and vote for more of it. Where were all his supporters?

Obama did not attempt to work with Republicans. He spent all the time bashing them. Reid blocked bills passed by the house and refused to call a vote on them in the senate. They all lied about Republicans having no ideas about healthcare or anything else. There were plenty that got completely ignored by the Dems.

In the speech, he seemed to be promising more free stuff and intends to go after the wealthy to pay for all of it. That never pans out, so here comes more debt.

He had the gall to act like he has helped the economy. It's the private sector responsible for the little improvement and that is despite Obama's attempts to go after the oil companies. Gas prices are low because of them, not him. He's already talking more gas taxes. Of course, the government dependents don't have to fill their tanks often to drive to work, so they probably don't care.


You're full of shit. I keep hearing about free stuff. What free stuff? Republicans are the ones wanting a higher gas tax you dumbass.
Top Republican open to gas tax increase - Jan. 5 2015

Senator Dick Durbin as well as several other Dem's wants higher gas taxes.
This is not just one sided in the Senate.
So far there is not enough votes in the house to pass a bill like that.

Clementine claimed that somehow Obama was taking more in gas taxes than gas taxes had been before, which is total bullshit. That was a response to his remark.
 
Cut out the parts of the speech I found were repetitive:

Claim: "Tonight, after a breakthrough year for America, our economy is growing and creating jobs at the fastest pace since 1999. Our unemployment rate is now lower than it was before the financial crisis."
Reality: Job growth is at the cost of lower wages, meaning that the jobs being created are low-wage jobs that aren't going to fix inequality or poverty: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/10/business/economy/jobs-unemployment-figures-december.html?_r=0
But a drop in average hourly earnings last month, after a healthy gain in November, sidetracked hopes that a tighter labor market was beginning to lead to broader wage gains.

Claim: "Tonight, for the first time since 9/11, our combat mission in Afghanistan is over."
Reality: The US still has financial obligations to Afghanistan - to the tune of billions of dollars a year, alongside training and whatever else the US decides to fund in Afghanistan. It is hardly 'over':
State and USAID: The FY 2014 civilian foreign assistance request of nearly $2.2 billion for Afghanistan
Claim: "Today, fewer than 15,000 remain"
Reality: Which is still boots on the ground. And keep in mind that the administration puts people in 'support roles' or training Afghan forces, which it doesn't count as boots on the ground.

Claim: "At this moment – with a growing economy"
Reality: Don't mention the middle class is not getting any richer: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/23/u...le-class-is-no-longer-the-worlds-richest.html
“The idea that the median American has so much more income than the middle class in all other parts of the world is not true these days,” said Lawrence Katz, a Harvard economist who is not associated with LIS. “In 1960, we were massively richer than anyone else. In 1980, we were richer. In the 1990s, we were still richer.” That is no longer the case, Professor Katz added.

Median per capita income was $18,700 in the United States in 2010 (which translates to about $75,000 for a family of four after taxes), up 20 percent since 1980 but virtually unchanged since 2000, after adjusting for inflation. The same measure, by comparison, rose about 20 percent in Britain between 2000 and 2010 and 14 percent in the Netherlands. Median income also rose 20 percent in Canada between 2000 and 2010, to the equivalent of $18,700.

Claim: "shrinking deficits"
Reality: Only for 2015 (-469), and it is expected to increase in 2016 (-556) onwards. So clearly a misrepresentation: An Update to the Budget and Economic Outlook 2014 to 2024 Congressional Budget Office

Claim: "We believed we could reverse the tide of outsourcing"
Reality: It hasn't reversed: 2 000 jobs threatened as United mulls outsourcing at 28 U.S. airports - Fortune
United Airlines is assessing whether to outsource jobs at airports around the country in a cost-cutting effort that could affect some 2,000 workers.

Claim: "and draw new jobs to our shores."
Reality: Jobs that pay less than before the recession: Report New Jobs in U.S. Offer Lower Wages Than Before Recession - Businessweek
The recovery has been disappointing from the perspective of pay. From early 2010 through mid-2014, while the economy gained a little more than 9 million jobs, the fastest growth came in the low-paying accommodation and food sector; this year the average annual wages in the sector are just under $21,000.

Claim: "And over the past five years, our businesses have created more than 11 million new jobs."
Reality: Which are only part-time, and can barely pay the bills: More Americans are stuck in part-time work - The Washington Post
But the spike in part-time work since the recession has been largely involuntary. These workers may have had their hours cut or are unable to find full-time jobs, earning them the official designation of “part-time for economic reasons.” In June, their ranks swelled by 275,000 to 7.5 million. In 2007, 4.4 million people fell into this category.

Claim: "And today, our younger students have earned the highest math and reading scores on record. Our high school graduation rate has hit an all-time high. And more Americans finish college than ever before."
Reality: According to the OECD, US graduation rates only grew by 7% in 2012, but the OECD average is 11%. 42% of 55-64 year old Americans have a university level education. It is 44% in Canada, 47% in Israel, and quite surprisingly 49% in Russia.

Claim:
"We believed that sensible regulations could prevent another crisis"
Reality: Financial regulation has been cut in small pieces throughout 2009-2014: Financial crisis The banking rules that died by a thousand small cuts - Fortune
In fact, Congress recently weakened The Volcker Rule, which aimed to prohibit some forms of risky trading by banks. And now the Republican-controlled House and Senate vow to further roll back the Volcker Rule and other provisions of the Dodd-Frank financial reform.

Claim: "shield families from ruin"
Reality: Millions of Americans would disagree who lost their homes, when Democrats had control and could have stopped it: 1.2 million households lost to recession - Business - Eye on the Economy NBC News
Brown represents one of the more than 1.2 million households lost to the recession, according to a report issued this week by the Mortgage Bankers Association that looked at data between 2005 and 2008. That number doesn’t include information from 2009, when job losses and foreclosures continued to rise.

So it's likely that the full impact of the 8.4 million jobs lost and nearly three million homes foreclosed on since the recession began has taken an even bigger toll on the number of American households.

Claim: "and encourage fair competition"
Reality: Would have to agree partly on this one as consumers seem to believe they are better off, but the net neutrality ruling would have many disagree:
At Last More Consumers Say They Are Better Off Than a Year Ago Than Worse Off - Real Time Economics - WSJ

Claim: "Today, we have new tools to stop taxpayer-funded bailouts"
Reality: The US budget did the reverse, and to think he claimed to be 'against it': Congressional budget welcomes big bank bailouts once more despite White House opposition Business The Guardian
The new budget provision once again acts as a promise that taxpayers will foot the bill for risky trading and speculation, Kelleher said.

“If things go wrong, [the banks] get to run to the Fed for bailouts. That’s incredibly valuable to them,” he said.

The surprise in the budget move is that everyone but banks considered the matter already settled.

The Dodd-Frank rule dictated that banks would have to find new homes for their risk-taking unit to prevent them from taking risks with customer deposits. Even so, mistakes occurred.

Claim: "And in the past year alone, about ten million uninsured Americans finally gained the security of health coverage."
Reality: Which was still substandard, and none of the major underlying issues with the healthcare system were fixed: Obamacare Good bad and ugly The Economist
But Obamacare tackled only half of the problem. American health care, warns Mr Brill, is still jeopardised by “the broken economics of the marketplace”. Doctors are rewarded for performing useless procedures, while insurers pay for as little as possible, and hospitals gouge those without coverage. The author has his own plan for reform that involves encouraging the country’s big health systems to expand and offer their own insurance. This, he writes, would eliminate the incentive for doctors and hospitals to run up costs (as they would be on the hook for them) and cut out the insurance-company middleman that wants to skimp on care.


Just the first two I found interesting so I'll quote them.

Claim: "Tonight, after a breakthrough year for America, our economy is growing and creating jobs at the fastest pace since 1999. Our unemployment rate is now lower than it was before the financial crisis."
Reality: Job growth is at the cost of lower wages, meaning that the jobs being created are low-wage jobs that aren't going to fix inequality or poverty: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/10/business/economy/jobs-unemployment-figures-december.html?_r=0

Our economy is growing and creating jobs at the fastest pace since 1999 and in your "reality" it mentions nothing about the pace of job creation HUH?

laim: "Tonight, for the first time since 9/11, our combat mission in Afghanistan is over."
Reality: The US still has financial obligations to Afghanistan - to the tune of billions of dollars a year, alongside training and whatever else the US decides to fund in Afghanistan. It is hardly 'over':

Our combat mission is over. In your "reality" it doesnt address the combat mission at all....?

It kinda goes on like that. I say I like Pie and your reality says "But you had cake once"
 
He has nothing to lose at this point i don't know why people act like he does. He Can basically do what he wants as this is his second term and Veto everything he disagrees with.

What he has to lose is his legacy. It's already tarnished. If he vetoes everything the duly elected representatives of the House and Senate send him he will see that legacy go up in flames.

Whether liberals like it or not, the mid terms were an overwhelming rejection of Obama's policies. President Clinton had the gravitas to understand that when it happened to him and he turned his whole Presidency around by working positively with Congress and the Senate.


He's been trying to work with them for six years. The election was only overwhelming if you don't consider the tiny number of people who voted. Not many more than you would expect in an election for Homecoming Queen.

Stop repeating this lie, about the same number of people voted in 2006 when Dem's took control of congress and you people said it was an historic rebuke of Bush, a mandate, Bush must cave to the will of the people blah blah. OH SNAP!
 
What he has to lose is his legacy. It's already tarnished. If he vetoes everything the duly elected representatives of the House and Senate send him he will see that legacy go up in flames.

Whether liberals like it or not, the mid terms were an overwhelming rejection of Obama's policies. President Clinton had the gravitas to understand that when it happened to him and he turned his whole Presidency around by working positively with Congress and the Senate.


He's been trying to work with them for six years. The election was only overwhelming if you don't consider the tiny number of people who voted. Not many more than you would expect in an election for Homecoming Queen.
Neither side has tried to work with the other
Bullshit. Democrats have refused to work with Republicans since 2000. They have been like an enemy among us doing everything they can to bring this country down in reality and in the eyes of the world. The latest example was Sen Dianne Feinstein badmouthing our intelligence agencies. There was no call for that. If anything, that stuff needs to be handled behind closed doors, not blasted to the whole planet.

Republicans had a meeting on inauguration day and decided there would be no cooperation, and since when did a republican have a problem with publicly pointing out anything? Hell, they make stuff up to point out all the time..............Remember BENGHAZIBENGHAZIBENGHAZI?
And The Obama just stood in front of our nation and promised to veto any and everything that didn't fit his wealth 're-distribution plans


If that were true, which it is not, that still wouldn't justify the GOP refusing to work with him on anything for six years.
 

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