How many of you are Pro-Death Penalty but Against Abortion?

[PLYMCO_PILGRIM]

this thread HAD lots of potential

 

[JBeukema]

Can you name one person that was executed that was proven to be innocent?

Once they're dead, they stop looking at the case.

But I'm sure there was no prosecutorial misconduct and there were no false arrests before we started doing DNA testing and all that before killing people...

 

[JBeukema]

Two Words: Alan Gell


Proof that the death penalty (and much of the system overall) is bullshit

 

[Steelplate]

I am neither pro death penalty nor pro abortion. I am fully against both.

However, I am pro choice. Every person must choose their own path in life and stand before God at the end of it all. I am not their judge. I do not have the ability to read into the hearts of other people.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Aren't they both killing a human?

I'd like your thoughts on this, it's something I've always wondered how people think about the two.

Isn't it telling you can't see the difference. Death Penalty is a punishment meted out for Heinous crimes while abortion is the act of murdering your unborn child that has done nothing wrong.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

A question that needs to be asked.

If the death penalty is for a committed crime, what crime did a baby commit before it was born?

A question asked long ago and decided long ago:

3. State criminal abortion laws, like those involved here, that except from criminality only a life-saving procedure on the mother's behalf without regard to the stage of her pregnancy and other interests involved violate the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment, which protects against state action the right to privacy, including a woman's qualified right to terminate her pregnancy. Though the State cannot override that right, it has legitimate interests in protecting both the pregnant woman's health and the potentiality of human life, each of which interests grows and reaches a "compelling" point at various stages of the woman's approach to term. Pp. 147-164.

(a) For the stage prior to approximately the end of the first trimester, the abortion decision and its effectuation must be left to the medical judgment of the pregnant woman's attending physician. Pp. 163, 164.

FindLaw | Cases and Codes

The question is moot.

 

[random3434]

I am neither pro death penalty nor pro abortion. I am fully against both.

However, I am pro choice. Every person must choose their own path in life and stand before God at the end of it all. I am not their judge. I do not have the ability to read into the hearts of other people.

Exactly.

I feel the same way. Just wondered if those others who are against abortion are also against taking another human's life. I guess the Bible "An eye for an eye" would justify that, but I wonder how many on here could pull the plug, or give the shot, or whatever it is they do when they kill someone in jail.

I also agree with making the prisons less comfortable, and making those criminals that do awful things live in their own hell here on earth. Make them suffer like they made the families they did things to suffer.

 

[JBeukema]

woman's qualified right to terminate her pregnancy.

A Right to Kill?

the potentiality of human life

Sperm and a woman's period?

 

[JBeukema]

It was just another week in Arizona. Tuesday, the Department of Corrections executed Jeffrey Landrigan despite controversy over the drugs in his lethal injection needle. Wednesday, Governor Jan Brewer once again refused to release Bill Macumber, an inmate since the mid-'70s who the Arizona Board of Executive Clemency says is innocent.

Jan Brewer Leaves Innocent Man in Prison for Life | The Stir

 

[Steelplate]

Exactly.

I feel the same way. Just wondered if those others who are against abortion are also against taking another human's life. I guess the Bible "An eye for an eye" would justify that, but I wonder how many on here could pull the plug, or give the shot, or whatever it is they do when they kill someone in jail.

I also agree with making the prisons less comfortable, and making those criminals that do awful things live in their own hell here on earth. Make them suffer like they made the families they did things to suffer.

On the last part of your post.... I am one who feels that there are way too many people in Prison. Most of them are non-violent drug offenders that are victims of the failed war on drugs. What I see happening is that they go into the Prison system a pot smoker or heroin addict and they come out seasoned criminals with a chip on their shoulder and prison acquired gang affiliations.

Prisons are making most of our prison population worse people than when they went in.

 

[American Cowboy]

A baby is innocent

A murderer is guilty

 

[Ravi]

I am neither pro death penalty nor pro abortion. I am fully against both.

However, I am pro choice. Every person must choose their own path in life and stand before God at the end of it all. I am not their judge. I do not have the ability to read into the hearts of other people.

Exactly.

I feel the same way. Just wondered if those others who are against abortion are also against taking another human's life. I guess the Bible "An eye for an eye" would justify that, but I wonder how many on here could pull the plug, or give the shot, or whatever it is they do when they kill someone in jail.

I also agree with making the prisons less comfortable, and making those criminals that do awful things live in their own hell here on earth. Make them suffer like they made the families they did things to suffer.

Where do you get the idea that prisons are comfortable?

 

[JBeukema]

A baby is innocent

A murderer is guilty

But we don't just kill murderers. We kill innocent people.

It was just another week in Arizona. Tuesday, the Department of Corrections executed Jeffrey Landrigan despite controversy over the drugs in his lethal injection needle. Wednesday, Governor Jan Brewer once again refused to release Bill Macumber, an inmate since the mid-'70s who the Arizona Board of Executive Clemency says is innocent.

Jan Brewer Leaves Innocent Man in Prison for Life | The Stir

 

[BolshevikHunter]

How can the death penalty be murder?

Well, killing someone, be it legal or not, is murder, isn't it?

Or should I have called it something else?



Maybe I used the wrong wording?

How about "putting to death" someone?

Be it a baby in the womb, or someone that commited a crime.

Is one right, and one wrong? Or both wrong?


thanks, I changed my wording on the OP.

Echo, Here is my take on it. One is right, because it punishes the one who took the life from the other one for which is the reason their's is being taken (eye for an eye) from them. Where, The other is wrong, Because one took the life of the other one for no moral reason whatsoever. They stole the life from an innocent being, where life is so rare, and they did nothing to deserve to be erased. Not that hard to understand really. It's called Truth or JUSTICE, or what I like to call it, NATURAL LAW. ~BH

 

[BolshevikHunter]

I am neither pro death penalty nor pro abortion. I am fully against both.

However, I am pro choice. Every person must choose their own path in life and stand before God at the end of it all. I am not their judge. I do not have the ability to read into the hearts of other people.

Exactly.

I feel the same way. Just wondered if those others who are against abortion are also against taking another human's life. I guess the Bible "An eye for an eye" would justify that, but I wonder how many on here could pull the plug, or give the shot, or whatever it is they do when they kill someone in jail.

I also agree with making the prisons less comfortable, and making those criminals that do awful things live in their own hell here on earth. Make them suffer like they made the families they did things to suffer.

Where do you get the idea that prisons are comfortable?

What the hell do you call cable tv and internet access? Apparently, Now they want internet porn. ~BH

 

[rdean]

How many of you are Pro-Death Penalty but Against Abortion?

You mean outside the right wing?

 

[American Cowboy]

A baby is innocent

A murderer is guilty

But we don't just kill murderers. We kill innocent people.

We have the best justice system in the world "Innocent until proven guilty". Now with crime lab technology being so advanced, chance of errors are slim.

You'd kill a unborn baby I bet though wouldn't you?

I also favor castration for repeat offending child molesters and I also am in favor of third strike laws. Let's also deport every MFer that sneaks across our borders.

Let's get tough on crime

 

[BolshevikHunter]

How many of you are Pro-Death Penalty but Against Abortion?

You mean outside the right wing?

rd, That should not even matter bro. Forget left vs. Right for a minute. Besides, I thought you were smarter then falling for that set up divisionist crap? There are many people from both made up politcal parties that have different opinions on this subject buddy. I see this as uh fence sitting subject if you ask me. The taking of a life is bigger than politics. ~BH

 

[spectrumc01]

A baby is innocent

A murderer is guilty

yet both are born with original sin, and thus stained in the eyes of God from the start.

 

[KSigMason]

I'm for preserving the life's of an innocent defenseless being. Certain criminals have lost that right to life.