Andylusion
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No way teachers in the US work 45 hours a week. They have summers off and holiday time and half days.
They have more time off than anyone
No. It's closer to 60.
No it's not at least not according to the bureau of labor statistics
That's odd. They never asked me.
My kids don't receive science books. If they want to use a book, they have to check it out.
Wtf. All the money that the schools get, and they can't provide a science book to my kid? It all goes to the admin and the teachers.
And the science teacher is a freaking lunatic. I just spoke to her on the phone, I called to talk to her because my son said he was having difficulty in the class...and she was literally raving. I called the principal and said get my kid out of that class NOW. I don't know what her problem is, but my kid isn't going to be exposed to it. And I get the feeling I'm not the only one that's calling....
Anything they pay that pos is too much.
And better yet, if the teacher is bad, there is almost nothing the principal can do. School principals today, have about as much power as a prison warden, where the prison is owned and operated by the inmates, and every convict has both the keys and the locks to every room.
I was reading about Finland, and the one thing the Finnish school people THEMSELVES were complaining about, was the teachers Unions. They were talking about teachers who showed up in the class room, completely plastered. Drunk out of their minds, and the school administration couldn't do much except require the teacher sign up for classes for alcoholics, but couldn't even require that they show up for the classes. They could come to work drunk for 10 years, before the union contracts and control on administration allowed them to be removed.Yeah, it's a lot more than that.
Right summers off, all kinds of time off during the school year
Not even close to a full time job
You'd be dead inside a week. Come on and give it a try! I dare you!
^^^^this
I doubt that I've worked real jobs for 80 or 90 hours a week
If teaching took as much skill as you say you'd all be paid a hell of a lot more
Why don't you try it and see if you think it is so easy?
Like I said before, both my parents were teachers. They certainly did not work 60 hours a week.
My father put in more hours than my mother, but then he was the wrestling coach. He left around 7 AM, and got home around 5:30. I never saw him work on the weekends.
Mother left around 8:30, and got back around 5. She did more grading of papers at home, but it depended on the time of year. When the kids had gym, she would grade at work.
Mom was elementary, so she had less time alone. Father was high school, so he generally only had 4 or 5 class periods a day, and the rest of the time was free. Which is why I can barely remember 2 or 3 times I ever saw him grading anything at home. Usually when there was a snow storm, that compressed the schedule.
The real trick is learning how to handle the kids. If you can learn how to deal with the troublesome kids, and how to maintain order in the class room, then teaching is a breeze. The worst part is saying the same thing over, and over, and over, and over and over. Year after year, same thing over and over and over.
If you don't know how to keep the kids on your side, and how to deal with the crazies, and how to keep order in the class... then yeah, it's hellish. You'll end up a bad rerun of kindergarten cop.
All of that said....
The whole reason both my parents retired from teaching, was entirely because they saw that the way things were going, more and more was expected to be taught, and the same amount of time was given for teaching. Additionally, the load of paperwork required, has been increasing over and over. Moreover, it was getting harder to remove bad students, which made teaching more difficult.
It is one of the major policies that I completely disagreed with Bush on. No Child Left behind should never have happened. Let the states work it out. It's not the Federals job to fix state schools.