How stoopid are Climate Change Predictions? Heres how stoopid......

[westwall]

Regardless of the stupid predictions, America is a lot less polluted than it was in the 70s, thanks to the environmentalist movement.

That is a fact, however, when a person takes a non biased look at the historical, and paleoclimate record it is very plain that when it is warmer it is better. There is no question about that.

 

[g5000]

Regardless of the stupid predictions, America is a lot less polluted than it was in the 70s, thanks to the environmentalist movement.

That is a fact, however, when a person takes a non biased look at the historical, and paleoclimate record it is very plain that when it is warmer it is better. There is no question about that.

I'm talking about pollution. Air you can chew. Poisons in the drinking water. Rivers catching fire.

 

[westwall]

Regardless of the stupid predictions, America is a lot less polluted than it was in the 70s, thanks to the environmentalist movement.

That is a fact, however, when a person takes a non biased look at the historical, and paleoclimate record it is very plain that when it is warmer it is better. There is no question about that.

I'm talking about pollution. Air you can chew. Poisons in the drinking water. Rivers catching fire.

Yes, there is no doubt, as I said. However the environmentalists went too far in CA trying to make the air cleaner they polluted the groundwater with the MTBE that was used as an oxygenate in the gasoline.

What's sad is they were warned well in advance that MTBE was not the additive to use.

 

[skookerasbil]

That wasn't "liberals". That was tea-party loving Bob Woodruff on the very conservative ABC network. So, another failure of our conservative media, it would seem.

Given that actual climate science has been so spot-on correct, yelling about Bob Woodruff or what some nobody said in 1970 is the best deniers can do now. That's why global warming science has such credibility, because it's been getting everything right for decades. In contrast, all the deniers here are total 'effin retards, reduced to yammering idiot conspiracy theories about a vast secret global socialist conspiracy.

So deniers, how does it feel to have the whole planet constantly laughing at you? It's not going to get any better. I hope the emotional affirmation you get from your fellow cultists is worth the lifetime of humiliation you've signed on for.

ABC network............"conservative"!!!! OK.....like 213 people think that!!


Dang s0n...........you're the flakiest of all the boneheads!!!

 

[skookerasbil]

That wasn't "liberals". That was tea-party loving Bob Woodruff on the very conservative ABC network. So, another failure of our conservative media, it would seem.

Given that actual climate science has been so spot-on correct, yelling about Bob Woodruff or what some nobody said in 1970 is the best deniers can do now. That's why global warming science has such credibility, because it's been getting everything right for decades. In contrast, all the deniers here are total 'effin retards, reduced to yammering idiot conspiracy theories about a vast secret global socialist conspiracy.

So deniers, how does it feel to have the whole planet constantly laughing at you? It's not going to get any better. I hope the emotional affirmation you get from your fellow cultists is worth the lifetime of humiliation you've signed on for.

"Cultists"????!!!!!!

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[Ernie S.]

That wasn't "liberals". That was tea-party loving Bob Woodruff on the very conservative ABC network. So, another failure of our conservative media, it would seem.

Given that actual climate science has been so spot-on correct, yelling about Bob Woodruff or what some nobody said in 1970 is the best deniers can do now. That's why global warming science has such credibility, because it's been getting everything right for decades. In contrast, all the deniers here are total 'effin retards, reduced to yammering idiot conspiracy theories about a vast secret global socialist conspiracy.

So deniers, how does it feel to have the whole planet constantly laughing at you? It's not going to get any better. I hope the emotional affirmation you get from your fellow cultists is worth the lifetime of humiliation you've signed on for.

Given that actual climate science has been so spot-on correct

Really? You're just a troll here, right?

Not one single prediction made by the AGW cult has come true. Not one data set hasn't been fucked with in order to promote the cause.

Not spot on anything but stupid and fraudulent.

 

[flacaltenn]

Speaking of being laughed at for failing hilariously at every prediction, there's Skook. Let's all remember the 2012 election. Skook spent a solid year posting stupid pictures and declaring how the Romney landslide was a certainty. Skook literally sets the board standard to beat in terms of failed predictions.

Skook will eventually vanish out of pure shame over his hilarious failure on the global warming issue, just as he vanished after the 2012 election. He'll go off on a month-long bender and then come back, hoping everyone has forgotten his humiliation, and then he'll pick a new issue to be total failure at.

You've got 2 weeks until you slink off to lick YOUR wounds and drink yourself into oblivion?

thats a real shame ernie, since last week scientists changed their minds on eggs and bacon.... another episode in "settled science"

 

[Ernie S.]

FLASHBACK: ABC's ’08 Prediction: NYC Under Water from Climate Change By June 2015

New York City underwater? Gas over $9 a gallon? A carton of milk costs almost $13? Welcome to June 12, 2015. Or at least that was the wildly-inaccurate version of 2015 predicted by ABC News exactly seven years ago. Appearing on Good Morning America in 2008, Bob Woodruff hyped Earth 2100, a special that pushed apocalyptic predictions of the then-futuristic 2015. The segment included supposedly prophetic videos, such as a teenager declaring, "It's June 8th, 2015. One carton of milk is $12.99." (On the actual June 8, 2015, a gallon of milk cost, on average, $3.39.) Another clip featured this prediction for the current year: "Gas reached over $9 a gallon." (In reality, gas costs an average of $2.75.)
FLASHBACK ABC s 08 Prediction NYC Under Water from Climate Change By June 2015

Typical liberal FEAR MONGERING. You must hand over your rights and freedoms to us or the world will end. Unfortunately, there are dupes that believe this rot.

Most of us know it's just that, FEAR MONGERING.

Remember the predictions of the first Earth Day 1970?

13 Most Ridiculous Predictions Made on Earth Day, 1970 13 Most Ridiculous Predictions Made on Earth Day 1970 Ricochet

1. “Civilization will end within 15 or 30 years unless immediate action is taken against problems facing mankind.” — Harvard biologist George Wald
2. “We are in an environmental crisis which threatens the survival of this nation, and of the world as a suitable place of human habitation.” — Washington University biologist Barry Commoner
3. “Man must stop pollution and conserve his resources, not merely to enhance existence but to save the race from intolerable deterioration and possible extinction.” — New York Times editorial
4. “Population will inevitably and completely outstrip whatever small increases in food supplies we make. The death rate will increase until at least 100-200 million people per year will be starving to death during the next ten years.” — Stanford University biologist Paul Ehrlich
5. “Most of the people who are going to die in the greatest cataclysm in the history of man have already been born… [By 1975] some experts feel that food shortages will have escalated the present level of world hunger and starvation into famines of unbelievable proportions. Other experts, more optimistic, think the ultimate food-population collision will not occur until the decade of the 1980s.” — Paul Ehrlich
6. “It is already too late to avoid mass starvation,” — Denis Hayes, Chief organizer for Earth Day
7. “Demographers agree almost unanimously on the following grim timetable: by 1975 widespread famines will begin in India; these will spread by 1990 to include all of India, Pakistan, China and the Near East, Africa. By the year 2000, or conceivably sooner, South and Central America will exist under famine conditions…. By the year 2000, thirty years from now, the entire world, with the exception of Western Europe, North America, and Australia, will be in famine.” — North Texas State University professor Peter Gunter
8. “In a decade, urban dwellers will have to wear gas masks to survive air pollution… by 1985 air pollution will have reduced the amount of sunlight reaching earth by one half.” — Life magazine
9. “At the present rate of nitrogen buildup, it’s only a matter of time before light will be filtered out of the atmosphere and none of our land will be usable.” — Ecologist Kenneth Watt
10. “Air pollution…is certainly going to take hundreds of thousands of lives in the next few years alone.” — Paul Ehrlich
11. “By the year 2000, if present trends continue, we will be using up crude oil at such a rate… that there won’t be any more crude oil. You’ll drive up to the pump and say, ‘Fill ‘er up, buddy,’ and he’ll say, ‘I am very sorry, there isn’t any.’” — Ecologist Kenneth Watt
12. “[One] theory assumes that the earth’s cloud cover will continue to thicken as more dust, fumes, and water vapor are belched into the atmosphere by industrial smokestacks and jet planes. Screened from the sun’s heat, the planet will cool, the water vapor will fall and freeze, and a new Ice Age will be born.” — Newsweekmagazine
13. “The world has been chilling sharply for about twenty years. If present trends continue, the world will be about four degrees colder for the global mean temperature in 1990, but eleven degrees colder in the year 2000. This is about twice what it would take to put us into an ice age.” — Kenneth Watt

NONE OF IT HAPPENED! This is why I went from believing all this rot in 1970 (when I was 9) to being a complete cynic on it. It NEVER happens. They predict the sky will fall and it never happens. Oh but they make money predicting gloom and doom, and they get power!

That's what it is all about. WHEN will people start figuring that out. I can't believe I'm the only person with a brain.

But but but.... Mamooth says the scientists were, her words:"spot on".

 

[orogenicman]

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Listen.........for browsers of the ENVIRONMENT forum........need to know we have a handful of complete mental cases in here. These phonies jump on every single alarmist/end of the world global warming scientist prediction, most of which fall and explode like a SCUD missile!!!

But hey......I get that some people are compelled to embrace the hysterical in life ALL THE TIME!!!

Well if thats you..........go......go.......go!!! But a huge % arent caring ( supported by numerous polls posted up all over this forum ). Perhaps some just need to be eccentric. I cant help you!!!

ABC News is not a valid source of scientific predictions. Neither is newsbusters. Next.

 

[flacaltenn]

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Listen.........for browsers of the ENVIRONMENT forum........need to know we have a handful of complete mental cases in here. These phonies jump on every single alarmist/end of the world global warming scientist prediction, most of which fall and explode like a SCUD missile!!!

But hey......I get that some people are compelled to embrace the hysterical in life ALL THE TIME!!!

Well if thats you..........go......go.......go!!! But a huge % arent caring ( supported by numerous polls posted up all over this forum ). Perhaps some just need to be eccentric. I cant help you!!!

ABC News is not a valid source of scientific predictions. Neither is newsbusters. Next.

No way you skate that easily away on this one. ABC vetted ALLL those predictions from the hysterical MAYBEs and COULDs and MIGHTs that they found in the climate science literature and IPCC executive summaries. Do u really think they invented those claims? Are u that naive?

 

[orogenicman]

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'08 Prediction: NYC Under Water From 'Climate Change' By June 2015!


FLASHBACK ABC s 08 Prediction NYC Under Water from Climate Change By June 2015


Listen.........for browsers of the ENVIRONMENT forum........need to know we have a handful of complete mental cases in here. These phonies jump on every single alarmist/end of the world global warming scientist prediction, most of which fall and explode like a SCUD missile!!!

But hey......I get that some people are compelled to embrace the hysterical in life ALL THE TIME!!!

Well if thats you..........go......go.......go!!! But a huge % arent caring ( supported by numerous polls posted up all over this forum ). Perhaps some just need to be eccentric. I cant help you!!!

ABC News is not a valid source of scientific predictions. Neither is newsbusters. Next.

No way you skate that easily away on this one. ABC vetted ALLL those predictions from the hysterical MAYBEs and COULDs and MIGHTs that they found in the climate science literature and IPCC executive summaries. Do u really think they invented those claims? Are u that naive?

ABC NEWS is not a peer reviewed scientific organization, and neither is Newsbusters. Moreover, I find it dishonest in the extreme for you people to whine about the credibility of the msm media wrt climate change, and then pretend that it actually has credibility when you want to use its reports against the actual science.

All scientists hedge their bets when making conclusions. In that respect, they are far more conservative than any of you deniers.

 

[flacaltenn]

One review of this dopey propaganda when it first came out. The reviewer nails ABC for fictionalizing and dramatizing an important public issue. Makes a good read for CrickHam who claims to never have seen any hysteria or exaggerations from the pious of the warmers....,,

OPINION Earth 2100 great for a good laugh gazette.com

 

[flacaltenn]

Top story on DRUDGE right now >>>>

'08 Prediction: NYC Under Water From 'Climate Change' By June 2015!


FLASHBACK ABC s 08 Prediction NYC Under Water from Climate Change By June 2015


Listen.........for browsers of the ENVIRONMENT forum........need to know we have a handful of complete mental cases in here. These phonies jump on every single alarmist/end of the world global warming scientist prediction, most of which fall and explode like a SCUD missile!!!

But hey......I get that some people are compelled to embrace the hysterical in life ALL THE TIME!!!

Well if thats you..........go......go.......go!!! But a huge % arent caring ( supported by numerous polls posted up all over this forum ). Perhaps some just need to be eccentric. I cant help you!!!

ABC News is not a valid source of scientific predictions. Neither is newsbusters. Next.

No way you skate that easily away on this one. ABC vetted ALLL those predictions from the hysterical MAYBEs and COULDs and MIGHTs that they found in the climate science literature and IPCC executive summaries. Do u really think they invented those claims? Are u that naive?

ABC NEWS is not a peer reviewed scientific organization, and neither is Newsbusters. Moreover, I find it dishonest in the extreme for you people to whine about the credibility of the msm media wrt climate change, and then pretend that it actually has credibility when you want to use its reports against the actual science.

All scientists hedge their bets when making conclusions. In that respect, they are far more conservative than any of you deniers.

So lemme get this straight. You are not concerned that what the public has been told about Global Warming has been exaggerated as part of a socio political agenda. And that i cant hold one of top 3 news orgs in this country responsible for MA GLING AND MISREPRESENTING the science in order to panic the herd?

you are such a tool.....

 

[orogenicman]

Top story on DRUDGE right now >>>>

'08 Prediction: NYC Under Water From 'Climate Change' By June 2015!


FLASHBACK ABC s 08 Prediction NYC Under Water from Climate Change By June 2015


Listen.........for browsers of the ENVIRONMENT forum........need to know we have a handful of complete mental cases in here. These phonies jump on every single alarmist/end of the world global warming scientist prediction, most of which fall and explode like a SCUD missile!!!

But hey......I get that some people are compelled to embrace the hysterical in life ALL THE TIME!!!

Well if thats you..........go......go.......go!!! But a huge % arent caring ( supported by numerous polls posted up all over this forum ). Perhaps some just need to be eccentric. I cant help you!!!

ABC News is not a valid source of scientific predictions. Neither is newsbusters. Next.

No way you skate that easily away on this one. ABC vetted ALLL those predictions from the hysterical MAYBEs and COULDs and MIGHTs that they found in the climate science literature and IPCC executive summaries. Do u really think they invented those claims? Are u that naive?

ABC NEWS is not a peer reviewed scientific organization, and neither is Newsbusters. Moreover, I find it dishonest in the extreme for you people to whine about the credibility of the msm media wrt climate change, and then pretend that it actually has credibility when you want to use its reports against the actual science.

All scientists hedge their bets when making conclusions. In that respect, they are far more conservative than any of you deniers.

So lemme get this straight. You are not concerned that what the public has been told about Global Warming has been exaggerated as part of a socio political agenda. And that i cant hold one of top 3 news orgs in this country responsible for MA GLING AND MISREPRESENTING the science in order to panic the herd?

you are such a tool.....

I am concerned that people like you try to use populous reporting as if it has scientific merit against what the actual science says. You might as well try to use Pat Robertson's rants about nuking Washington as an example of outstanding public policy. The fact of the matter is that if you actually wanted to report on what science is actually predicting, you would have used your alleged PhD brains and reported on what the scientists are actually saying. But you didn't do that. Which just proves what we have said all along about you - that you are a liar.

 

[mamooth]

Really? You're just a troll here, right?

I'm the guy who gets the cultists so upset because he keeps pointing out that they're conspiracy cult nutters.

Not one single prediction made by the AGW cult has come true.

Temperature predictions
Stratospheric cooling
Outgoing longwave decrease
Backradiation increase.
Increased rate of sea level rise
Ocean acidifcation.
Polar amplification.
Loss of glacier and arctic sea ice
Increase in antarctic sea ice

We can keep going, if you'd like. The point is that you only know what your liars' cult spoonfed to you, so you're completely ignorant of all the real science.

Not one data set hasn't been fucked with in order to promote the cause.

No data sets have been fucked with, and only the most shamelessly dishonest cult pissguzzlers try to pass off that idiot conspiracy theory.

Again, the whole planet says you're wrong. That's not because the whole planet is engaged in a secret socialist plot against you. It's because you're part of a tiny lunatic fringe conspiracy cult.

 

[Billy_Bob]

FLASHBACK: ABC's ’08 Prediction: NYC Under Water from Climate Change By June 2015

New York City underwater? Gas over $9 a gallon? A carton of milk costs almost $13? Welcome to June 12, 2015. Or at least that was the wildly-inaccurate version of 2015 predicted by ABC News exactly seven years ago. Appearing on Good Morning America in 2008, Bob Woodruff hyped Earth 2100, a special that pushed apocalyptic predictions of the then-futuristic 2015. The segment included supposedly prophetic videos, such as a teenager declaring, "It's June 8th, 2015. One carton of milk is $12.99." (On the actual June 8, 2015, a gallon of milk cost, on average, $3.39.) Another clip featured this prediction for the current year: "Gas reached over $9 a gallon." (In reality, gas costs an average of $2.75.)
FLASHBACK ABC s 08 Prediction NYC Under Water from Climate Change By June 2015

Typical liberal FEAR MONGERING. You must hand over your rights and freedoms to us or the world will end. Unfortunately, there are dupes that believe this rot.

Most of us know it's just that, FEAR MONGERING.

Remember the predictions of the first Earth Day 1970?

13 Most Ridiculous Predictions Made on Earth Day, 1970 13 Most Ridiculous Predictions Made on Earth Day 1970 Ricochet

1. “Civilization will end within 15 or 30 years unless immediate action is taken against problems facing mankind.” — Harvard biologist George Wald
2. “We are in an environmental crisis which threatens the survival of this nation, and of the world as a suitable place of human habitation.” — Washington University biologist Barry Commoner
3. “Man must stop pollution and conserve his resources, not merely to enhance existence but to save the race from intolerable deterioration and possible extinction.” — New York Times editorial
4. “Population will inevitably and completely outstrip whatever small increases in food supplies we make. The death rate will increase until at least 100-200 million people per year will be starving to death during the next ten years.” — Stanford University biologist Paul Ehrlich
5. “Most of the people who are going to die in the greatest cataclysm in the history of man have already been born… [By 1975] some experts feel that food shortages will have escalated the present level of world hunger and starvation into famines of unbelievable proportions. Other experts, more optimistic, think the ultimate food-population collision will not occur until the decade of the 1980s.” — Paul Ehrlich
6. “It is already too late to avoid mass starvation,” — Denis Hayes, Chief organizer for Earth Day
7. “Demographers agree almost unanimously on the following grim timetable: by 1975 widespread famines will begin in India; these will spread by 1990 to include all of India, Pakistan, China and the Near East, Africa. By the year 2000, or conceivably sooner, South and Central America will exist under famine conditions…. By the year 2000, thirty years from now, the entire world, with the exception of Western Europe, North America, and Australia, will be in famine.” — North Texas State University professor Peter Gunter
8. “In a decade, urban dwellers will have to wear gas masks to survive air pollution… by 1985 air pollution will have reduced the amount of sunlight reaching earth by one half.” — Life magazine
9. “At the present rate of nitrogen buildup, it’s only a matter of time before light will be filtered out of the atmosphere and none of our land will be usable.” — Ecologist Kenneth Watt
10. “Air pollution…is certainly going to take hundreds of thousands of lives in the next few years alone.” — Paul Ehrlich
11. “By the year 2000, if present trends continue, we will be using up crude oil at such a rate… that there won’t be any more crude oil. You’ll drive up to the pump and say, ‘Fill ‘er up, buddy,’ and he’ll say, ‘I am very sorry, there isn’t any.’” — Ecologist Kenneth Watt
12. “[One] theory assumes that the earth’s cloud cover will continue to thicken as more dust, fumes, and water vapor are belched into the atmosphere by industrial smokestacks and jet planes. Screened from the sun’s heat, the planet will cool, the water vapor will fall and freeze, and a new Ice Age will be born.” — Newsweekmagazine
13. “The world has been chilling sharply for about twenty years. If present trends continue, the world will be about four degrees colder for the global mean temperature in 1990, but eleven degrees colder in the year 2000. This is about twice what it would take to put us into an ice age.” — Kenneth Watt

NONE OF IT HAPPENED! This is why I went from believing all this rot in 1970 (when I was 9) to being a complete cynic on it. It NEVER happens. They predict the sky will fall and it never happens. Oh but they make money predicting gloom and doom, and they get power!

That's what it is all about. WHEN will people start figuring that out. I can't believe I'm the only person with a brain.

But but but.... Mamooth says the scientists were, her words:"spot on".

Its like cheering on a dog using a piddle pad.... SPOT ON! The predictions failed... and spot missed the pad..

 

[flacaltenn]

Top story on DRUDGE right now >>>>

'08 Prediction: NYC Under Water From 'Climate Change' By June 2015!


FLASHBACK ABC s 08 Prediction NYC Under Water from Climate Change By June 2015


Listen.........for browsers of the ENVIRONMENT forum........need to know we have a handful of complete mental cases in here. These phonies jump on every single alarmist/end of the world global warming scientist prediction, most of which fall and explode like a SCUD missile!!!

But hey......I get that some people are compelled to embrace the hysterical in life ALL THE TIME!!!

Well if thats you..........go......go.......go!!! But a huge % arent caring ( supported by numerous polls posted up all over this forum ). Perhaps some just need to be eccentric. I cant help you!!!

ABC News is not a valid source of scientific predictions. Neither is newsbusters. Next.

No way you skate that easily away on this one. ABC vetted ALLL those predictions from the hysterical MAYBEs and COULDs and MIGHTs that they found in the climate science literature and IPCC executive summaries. Do u really think they invented those claims? Are u that naive?

ABC NEWS is not a peer reviewed scientific organization, and neither is Newsbusters. Moreover, I find it dishonest in the extreme for you people to whine about the credibility of the msm media wrt climate change, and then pretend that it actually has credibility when you want to use its reports against the actual science.

All scientists hedge their bets when making conclusions. In that respect, they are far more conservative than any of you deniers.

So lemme get this straight. You are not concerned that what the public has been told about Global Warming has been exaggerated as part of a socio political agenda. And that i cant hold one of top 3 news orgs in this country responsible for MA GLING AND MISREPRESENTING the science in order to panic the herd?

you are such a tool.....

I am concerned that people like you try to use populous reporting as if it has scientific merit against what the actual science says. You might as well try to use Pat Robertson's rants about nuking Washington as an example of outstanding public policy. The fact of the matter is that if you actually wanted to report on what science is actually predicting, you would have used your alleged PhD brains and reported on what the scientists are actually saying. But you didn't do that. Which just proves what we have said all along about you - that you are a liar.

That's pretty strong words there pardner. To call me a liar that is. The desperation is showing. And you are not getting this. This thread is NOT about the science. It is a pile of monumental evidence for the "denier" claim that the AGW crazy train is actually a socio-political movement.

We can continue to do the science --- such as it is -- lying there wounded and damaged. Because that too has failed. But it was scientists being used as tools that gave ABC the credibility to run with this fantasy sci-fi as THO it was appropriate for a major news org to go full gonzo on the propaganda in that "documentary"..

What it means --- is that it make it almost impossible for you or your cohorts to claim that "deniers"" are just IMAGINING this as a Global socio-political conspiracy..
With evidence such as this --- you'd be a fool to become the denier.

How do I know this stinks? Because I've done SOME of the things that those useful tool scientists in the Climate community got conned into doing. I started out in Signal/Image processing research for surveillance. Mostly Govt sponsored. And I had my ass on an airplane between Silicon Valley and DC twice a month for several yrs. Was searching to justify our research with any "cause of the day" for the military or intelligence agencies. So in our reports, published papers, and proposals -- we took generic vanilla science and technology and made it dance any way the sponsors wanted it to. Want to find tanks or incoming ICBMs or track subversives with "metadata".. We could make it sound like whatever they were spending money on that week..

That's how i smell a fart. And how I'm certain that all of this MOVEMENT propaganda was fueled and encouraged by OVERSTATEMENTS and fearful projections that appeared in the "science"....

Don't call me a liar..... And don't become a denier... AGW is NOT about the science..

 

[orogenicman]

ABC News is not a valid source of scientific predictions. Neither is newsbusters. Next.

No way you skate that easily away on this one. ABC vetted ALLL those predictions from the hysterical MAYBEs and COULDs and MIGHTs that they found in the climate science literature and IPCC executive summaries. Do u really think they invented those claims? Are u that naive?

ABC NEWS is not a peer reviewed scientific organization, and neither is Newsbusters. Moreover, I find it dishonest in the extreme for you people to whine about the credibility of the msm media wrt climate change, and then pretend that it actually has credibility when you want to use its reports against the actual science.

All scientists hedge their bets when making conclusions. In that respect, they are far more conservative than any of you deniers.

So lemme get this straight. You are not concerned that what the public has been told about Global Warming has been exaggerated as part of a socio political agenda. And that i cant hold one of top 3 news orgs in this country responsible for MA GLING AND MISREPRESENTING the science in order to panic the herd?

you are such a tool.....

I am concerned that people like you try to use populous reporting as if it has scientific merit against what the actual science says. You might as well try to use Pat Robertson's rants about nuking Washington as an example of outstanding public policy. The fact of the matter is that if you actually wanted to report on what science is actually predicting, you would have used your alleged PhD brains and reported on what the scientists are actually saying. But you didn't do that. Which just proves what we have said all along about you - that you are a liar.

That's pretty strong words there pardner. To call me a liar that is. The desperation is showing. And you are not getting this. This thread is NOT about the science. It is a pile of monumental evidence for the "denier" claim that the AGW crazy train is actually a socio-political movement.

Oh the message is loud and clear. Instead of being professional and discussing environmental science in a forum on the environment, you have chosen to make a political rant, one which is better served in the politics forum where it belongs.