How would you save detroit?

[American_Jihad]

American_Jihad,

What difference in economic policies between Bush and Obama? Both are the same.

 

[billyerock1991]

We have the charge the culture of the population. Charge it from wanting free shit to one that wants to better its self.

How we do this??? I think by cutting the free shit and bringing a little tough luck into this is the answer.

what free shit are you speaking of ???

 

[billyerock1991]

you're dumber than dirt

The fall of detroit was called back in the 80's. You are now suffering from decades of dem rule.

2 years of a gop governor did not cause this.

that's when it all started with Ronald Reagan and his deregulation of laws ... you must of forgot that one didn't ya started when he started attacking the Unions ... can't deny that one .. as for the last two years yes we can blame him along with mittens ... killing that state ... if he was outsourcing jobs he was blocking federal dollars .... the new gov. has block every job that has come to the state by deny federal tax dollars too ...

Please tell me you're not for real.

roflol: roflol: roflol: please tell us you have a brain ... cause yours doesn't seem to be grasping reality .... I guess you forgot all the S&L problems he created ... I guess all of the tax hikes he made you forgot ... seems you forgot a lot ... when he deregulated the country ... these repub-lie-turds just don't seem to grasp reality...

 

[billyerock1991]

you're dumber than dirt

The fall of detroit was called back in the 80's. You are now suffering from decades of dem rule.

2 years of a gop governor did not cause this.

that's when it all started with Ronald Reagan and his deregulation of laws ... you must of forgot that one didn't ya started when he started attacking the Unions ... can't deny that one .. as for the last two years yes we can blame him along with mittens ... killing that state ... if he was outsourcing jobs he was blocking federal dollars .... the new gov. has block every job that has come to the state by deny federal tax dollars too ...

That's a lie...I've lived in Michigan all my life. Things have gotten much better in most of the state in the last 2 yrs. Snyder has made that happen. But as for Detroit, there was no saving it. You think Detroit started declining as soon as a republican gov came in?? Lol! We had too many years of Granholm before that!

ROFLOL:


now here's the typical repub-lie-tard that just can't seem to face reality... if things has gotten better, as you say they have, then why hasn't Detroit gotten better ???? Poor leader ship in the governors case I would say .... Bwa hahahahahahahahahahahaha !!!!!now that's hysterical ....

here in colorado our governor Hickenlooper funny name huh ... he has turn the mess around that the previous governor made ... a republican governor who had a repub-lie-can house and a repub-lie-can senate whos motto was cut, cut, cut ... we got the dems in charge now ... we watch the republicans squeal the sky is falling ... the sky is falling ...he turn it around ...did it in two years .... from a 6 billion deficit to a balance budget ....and money in the bank ... when your Governor's whole plan is cut taxes don't take federal dollars ... I guess some places will be fine but as I see, in the majority of the state of Michigan, things are failing and so has your governor ... our unemployment numbers have dropped to 7% and is going down it will be in the 6% range in July ... where's the unemployment numbers in Michigan ??? 8.2% and going up according, to your unemployment people ...yea Synders is doing a great job ... HUH !!!! if your rich...

 

[billyerock1991]

Here's the Pub ruin of the middle class:

% saved by middle class-
1980 = 10.0% – Reagan
1982 = 11.2% – Peak
1990 = 7.0%
2000 = 2.0%
2006 = -1.1% (Negative = withdrawing from savings)
A 12.3% drop after Reagan.
4. WORKERS ALSO BORROWED
A 45% increase after 1980.
5. SO THE GAP BETWEEN THE RICHEST AND THE POOREST HAS GROWN.
Gap Between the Share of Capital Income earned by the top 1%
and the bottom 80%:
1980 = 10%
2003 = 56% Over the past 60 years the American dream has gradually disappeared. The process was slow, so most people didn’t notice. They just worked a few more hours, borrowed a little more and cut back on non-essentials. But looking at the numbers and comparing them over long time periods, it is obvious that things have changed drastically. Here are the PRODUCE MORE BUT THE GAINS GO TO BUSINESS.
Over the details:
1. WORKERS past 63 years worker productivity has grown by 2.0% per year.
But after 1980, workers received a smaller share every year. Labor’s share of income (1992 = 100%):
1950 = 101%
1960 = 105%
1970 = 105%
1980 = 105% – Reagan
1990 = 100%
2000 = 96%
2007 = 92%
A 13% drop since 1980
2. THE TOP 10% GET A LARGER SHARE.
Share of National Income going to Top 10%:
1950 = 35%
1960 = 34%
1970 = 34%
1980 = 34% – Reagan
1990 = 40%
2000 = 47%
2007 = 50% TO MAKE UP FOR THE LOSS.
Household Debt as percentage of GDP:
1965 = 46%
1970 = 45%
1980 = 50% – Reagan
1990 = 61%
2000 = 69%
2007 = 95%
An increase of 16% since Reagan.
3. WORKERS COMPENSATED FOR THE LOSS OF INCOME BY SPENDING THEIR SAVINGS.
The savings Rose up to Reagan and fell during and after.
1950 = 6.0%
1960 = 7.0%
1970 = 8.5%

A 5.6 times increase.
6. AND THE AMERICAN DREAM IS GONE.
The Probably of Moving Up from the Bottom 40% to the Top 40%:
1945 = 12%
1958 = 6%
1990 = 3%
2000 = 2%
A 10% Decrease.
Links:
1 = ftp://ftp.bls.gov/pub/special.requests/pf/totalf1.txt
1 = https://www.clevelandfed.org/Research/PolicyDis/No7Nov04.pdf
1 = Clipboard01.jpg (image)
2 – Congratulations to Emmanuel Saez | The White House
3 = http://www.demos.org/inequality/images/charts/uspersonalsaving_thumb.gif
3 = http://www.bea.gov/national/nipaweb...able=58&Freq=Qtr&FirstYear=2008&LastYear=2010
4 = http://www.prudentbear.com/index.php/household-sector-debt-of-gdp
4 = FRB: Z.1 Release--Financial Accounts of the United States--June 6, 2013
5/6 = Wealth And Inequality In America - Business Insider
Overview = Reagan Revolution Home To Roost ? In Charts Previous post →

don't give them any facts my friend it will confuse these repub-lie-tards

 

[S.J.]

that's when it all started with Ronald Reagan and his deregulation of laws ... you must of forgot that one didn't ya started when he started attacking the Unions ... can't deny that one .. as for the last two years yes we can blame him along with mittens ... killing that state ... if he was outsourcing jobs he was blocking federal dollars .... the new gov. has block every job that has come to the state by deny federal tax dollars too ...

Please tell me you're not for real.

roflol: roflol: roflol: please tell us you have a brain ... cause yours doesn't seem to be grasping reality .... I guess you forgot all the S&L problems he created ... I guess all of the tax hikes he made you forgot ... seems you forgot a lot ... when he deregulated the country ... these repub-lie-turds just don't seem to grasp reality...

You really ARE as dumb as you look, aren't you?

 

[billyerock1991]

you're dumber than dirt

The fall of detroit was called back in the 80's. You are now suffering from decades of dem rule.

2 years of a gop governor did not cause this.

that's when it all started with Ronald Reagan and his deregulation of laws ... you must of forgot that one didn't ya started when he started attacking the Unions ... can't deny that one .. as for the last two years yes we can blame him along with mittens ... killing that state ... if he was outsourcing jobs he was blocking federal dollars .... the new gov. has block every job that has come to the state by deny federal tax dollars too ...

Really, because I am old a dirt . I do not remember Reagan deregulating Anything.

He was just another statist.

Statism is Turning America into Detroit – Ayn Rand's Starnesville Come to Life

.

I guess not only are you older then dirt you're dumber then dirt... seems you for got the S&L failures ... you know banks failing under republican control again, and again, and again, it seems to be a never ending cycle with you repub-lie-tards

 

[billyerock1991]

Get rid of the Pubs who bankrupted them, negotiate with the unions and put them on O-care.

But Mr Franco.....what about those JOBS???

once you get the repub-lie-turds out of control the jobs will be of plenty ...

 

[TemplarKormac]

Get rid of the Pubs who bankrupted them, negotiate with the unions and put them on O-care.

But Mr Franco.....what about those JOBS???

once you get the repub-lie-turds out of control the jobs will be of plenty ...

Sure, we have a republican president and a republican senate right now. How are they in control again?

Oh, you must be paranoid.

 

[billyerock1991]

Here's the Pub ruin of the middle class:

% saved by middle class-
1980 = 10.0% – Reagan
1982 = 11.2% – Peak
1990 = 7.0%
2000 = 2.0%
2006 = -1.1% (Negative = withdrawing from savings)
A 12.3% drop after Reagan.
4. WORKERS ALSO BORROWED
A 45% increase after 1980.
5. SO THE GAP BETWEEN THE RICHEST AND THE POOREST HAS GROWN.
Gap Between the Share of Capital Income earned by the top 1%
and the bottom 80%:
1980 = 10%
2003 = 56% Over the past 60 years the American dream has gradually disappeared. The process was slow, so most people didn’t notice. They just worked a few more hours, borrowed a little more and cut back on non-essentials. But looking at the numbers and comparing them over long time periods, it is obvious that things have changed drastically. Here are the PRODUCE MORE BUT THE GAINS GO TO BUSINESS.
Over the details:
1. WORKERS past 63 years worker productivity has grown by 2.0% per year.
But after 1980, workers received a smaller share every year. Labor’s share of income (1992 = 100%):
1950 = 101%
1960 = 105%
1970 = 105%
1980 = 105% – Reagan
1990 = 100%
2000 = 96%
2007 = 92%
A 13% drop since 1980
2. THE TOP 10% GET A LARGER SHARE.
Share of National Income going to Top 10%:
1950 = 35%
1960 = 34%
1970 = 34%
1980 = 34% – Reagan
1990 = 40%
2000 = 47%
2007 = 50% TO MAKE UP FOR THE LOSS.
Household Debt as percentage of GDP:
1965 = 46%
1970 = 45%
1980 = 50% – Reagan
1990 = 61%
2000 = 69%
2007 = 95%
An increase of 16% since Reagan.
3. WORKERS COMPENSATED FOR THE LOSS OF INCOME BY SPENDING THEIR SAVINGS.
The savings Rose up to Reagan and fell during and after.
1950 = 6.0%
1960 = 7.0%
1970 = 8.5%

A 5.6 times increase.
6. AND THE AMERICAN DREAM IS GONE.
The Probably of Moving Up from the Bottom 40% to the Top 40%:
1945 = 12%
1958 = 6%
1990 = 3%
2000 = 2%
A 10% Decrease.
Links:
1 = ftp://ftp.bls.gov/pub/special.requests/pf/totalf1.txt
1 = https://www.clevelandfed.org/Research/PolicyDis/No7Nov04.pdf
1 = Clipboard01.jpg (image)
2 – Congratulations to Emmanuel Saez | The White House
3 = http://www.demos.org/inequality/images/charts/uspersonalsaving_thumb.gif
3 = http://www.bea.gov/national/nipaweb...able=58&Freq=Qtr&FirstYear=2008&LastYear=2010
4 = http://www.prudentbear.com/index.php/household-sector-debt-of-gdp
4 = FRB: Z.1 Release--Financial Accounts of the United States--June 6, 2013
5/6 = Wealth And Inequality In America - Business Insider
Overview = Reagan Revolution Home To Roost ? In Charts Previous post →

Fuck off Franco and anyone else like him.

I love Detroit. Well in the old days.

You just have to take one look at any and all mother trucking libs trying to blame the demise of D on anything and anyone else and you can get a handle on how the libs want to run America.

see what happens when you hit them with the facts ??? they lose it... just say republicans bad ... ,democrats good ... that's the best thing you can say to them to get them to understand the facts as we know them ...

 

[billyerock1991]

Every time Democrats control anything, they fuck it up, then launch a disinformation campaign to blame Republicans.

Can you say denial??? sure we can

 

[billyerock1991]

Here's the Pub ruin of the middle class:

% saved by middle class-
1980 = 10.0% – Reagan
1982 = 11.2% – Peak
1990 = 7.0%
2000 = 2.0%
2006 = -1.1% (Negative = withdrawing from savings)
A 12.3% drop after Reagan.
4. WORKERS ALSO BORROWED
A 45% increase after 1980.
5. SO THE GAP BETWEEN THE RICHEST AND THE POOREST HAS GROWN.
Gap Between the Share of Capital Income earned by the top 1%
and the bottom 80%:
1980 = 10%
2003 = 56% Over the past 60 years the American dream has gradually disappeared. The process was slow, so most people didn’t notice. They just worked a few more hours, borrowed a little more and cut back on non-essentials. But looking at the numbers and comparing them over long time periods, it is obvious that things have changed drastically. Here are the PRODUCE MORE BUT THE GAINS GO TO BUSINESS.
Over the details:
1. WORKERS past 63 years worker productivity has grown by 2.0% per year.
But after 1980, workers received a smaller share every year. Labor’s share of income (1992 = 100%):
1950 = 101%
1960 = 105%
1970 = 105%
1980 = 105% – Reagan
1990 = 100%
2000 = 96%
2007 = 92%
A 13% drop since 1980
2. THE TOP 10% GET A LARGER SHARE.
Share of National Income going to Top 10%:
1950 = 35%
1960 = 34%
1970 = 34%
1980 = 34% – Reagan
1990 = 40%
2000 = 47%
2007 = 50% TO MAKE UP FOR THE LOSS.
Household Debt as percentage of GDP:
1965 = 46%
1970 = 45%
1980 = 50% – Reagan
1990 = 61%
2000 = 69%
2007 = 95%
An increase of 16% since Reagan.
3. WORKERS COMPENSATED FOR THE LOSS OF INCOME BY SPENDING THEIR SAVINGS.
The savings Rose up to Reagan and fell during and after.
1950 = 6.0%
1960 = 7.0%
1970 = 8.5%

A 5.6 times increase.
6. AND THE AMERICAN DREAM IS GONE.
The Probably of Moving Up from the Bottom 40% to the Top 40%:
1945 = 12%
1958 = 6%
1990 = 3%
2000 = 2%
A 10% Decrease.
Links:
1 = ftp://ftp.bls.gov/pub/special.requests/pf/totalf1.txt
1 = https://www.clevelandfed.org/Research/PolicyDis/No7Nov04.pdf
1 = Clipboard01.jpg (image)
2 – Congratulations to Emmanuel Saez | The White House
3 = http://www.demos.org/inequality/images/charts/uspersonalsaving_thumb.gif
3 = http://www.bea.gov/national/nipaweb...able=58&Freq=Qtr&FirstYear=2008&LastYear=2010
4 = http://www.prudentbear.com/index.php/household-sector-debt-of-gdp
4 = FRB: Z.1 Release--Financial Accounts of the United States--June 6, 2013
5/6 = Wealth And Inequality In America - Business Insider
Overview = Reagan Revolution Home To Roost ? In Charts Previous post →

Damn I kicked ass 1982~1999 and didnt even know I had it that good till the crappy ass end of 1999, Fucking Clinton...lol seen the gravey train was over that year, US manufacturing was going to hell.... never recovered yet.

no you idiot that when phil gram started deregulating the banking community and the insurers ... pay attention moron...

 

[TemplarKormac]

Here's the Pub ruin of the middle class:

% saved by middle class-
1980 = 10.0% – Reagan
1982 = 11.2% – Peak
1990 = 7.0%
2000 = 2.0%
2006 = -1.1% (Negative = withdrawing from savings)
A 12.3% drop after Reagan.
4. WORKERS ALSO BORROWED
A 45% increase after 1980.
5. SO THE GAP BETWEEN THE RICHEST AND THE POOREST HAS GROWN.
Gap Between the Share of Capital Income earned by the top 1%
and the bottom 80%:
1980 = 10%
2003 = 56% Over the past 60 years the American dream has gradually disappeared. The process was slow, so most people didn’t notice. They just worked a few more hours, borrowed a little more and cut back on non-essentials. But looking at the numbers and comparing them over long time periods, it is obvious that things have changed drastically. Here are the PRODUCE MORE BUT THE GAINS GO TO BUSINESS.
Over the details:
1. WORKERS past 63 years worker productivity has grown by 2.0% per year.
But after 1980, workers received a smaller share every year. Labor’s share of income (1992 = 100%):
1950 = 101%
1960 = 105%
1970 = 105%
1980 = 105% – Reagan
1990 = 100%
2000 = 96%
2007 = 92%
A 13% drop since 1980
2. THE TOP 10% GET A LARGER SHARE.
Share of National Income going to Top 10%:
1950 = 35%
1960 = 34%
1970 = 34%
1980 = 34% – Reagan
1990 = 40%
2000 = 47%
2007 = 50% TO MAKE UP FOR THE LOSS.
Household Debt as percentage of GDP:
1965 = 46%
1970 = 45%
1980 = 50% – Reagan
1990 = 61%
2000 = 69%
2007 = 95%
An increase of 16% since Reagan.
3. WORKERS COMPENSATED FOR THE LOSS OF INCOME BY SPENDING THEIR SAVINGS.
The savings Rose up to Reagan and fell during and after.
1950 = 6.0%
1960 = 7.0%
1970 = 8.5%

A 5.6 times increase.
6. AND THE AMERICAN DREAM IS GONE.
The Probably of Moving Up from the Bottom 40% to the Top 40%:
1945 = 12%
1958 = 6%
1990 = 3%
2000 = 2%
A 10% Decrease.
Links:
1 = ftp://ftp.bls.gov/pub/special.requests/pf/totalf1.txt
1 = https://www.clevelandfed.org/Research/PolicyDis/No7Nov04.pdf
1 = Clipboard01.jpg (image)
2 – Congratulations to Emmanuel Saez | The White House
3 = http://www.demos.org/inequality/images/charts/uspersonalsaving_thumb.gif
3 = http://www.bea.gov/national/nipaweb...able=58&Freq=Qtr&FirstYear=2008&LastYear=2010
4 = http://www.prudentbear.com/index.php/household-sector-debt-of-gdp
4 = FRB: Z.1 Release--Financial Accounts of the United States--June 6, 2013
5/6 = Wealth And Inequality In America - Business Insider
Overview = Reagan Revolution Home To Roost ? In Charts Previous post →

Fuck off Franco and anyone else like him.

I love Detroit. Well in the old days.

You just have to take one look at any and all mother trucking libs trying to blame the demise of D on anything and anyone else and you can get a handle on how the libs want to run America.

see what happens when you hit them with the facts ??? they lose it... just say republicans bad ... ,democrats good ... that's the best thing you can say to them to get them to understand the facts as we know them ...

Frankly, it would be more objective if those so call facts of Franco's cited the damage Democrats did to the middle class. They did a shit ton of damage to Detroit since 1951. Half a century of liberal policy. I'm sorry you can't handle it, and it's hilarious when you try to move the goalposts.

 

[billyerock1991]

Fuck off Franco and anyone else like him.

I love Detroit. Well in the old days.

You just have to take one look at any and all mother trucking libs trying to blame the demise of D on anything and anyone else and you can get a handle on how the libs want to run America.

Facts are so inconvenient. Greedy rich pubs are not your friend. Detroit is just the worst off city in the UWSA, but Reaganism and the 2008 Pub economic meltdown were underlying causes as much as the Big 3 leaving town...

Seriously, is Franco a retard?? Honest to God.. no one is this damn stupid and blind. The shit he spittles and drools from his cracked purple lips makes no damn sense.

that's because you have silly putty between your ears

 

[TemplarKormac]

Facts are so inconvenient. Greedy rich pubs are not your friend. Detroit is just the worst off city in the UWSA, but Reaganism and the 2008 Pub economic meltdown were underlying causes as much as the Big 3 leaving town...

Seriously, is Franco a retard?? Honest to God.. no one is this damn stupid and blind. The shit he spittles and drools from his cracked purple lips makes no damn sense.

that's because you have silly putty between your ears

And you have your head up your ass.

 

[billyerock1991]

btw franky you do know Clinton was POTUS in the fucking melt down of 2009....

heres and prime example .... you just can't fix stupid

 

[billyerock1991]

No, we had a meltdown in Oct, 2008- duh. Clinton? What are you drinking lol?

The Big 3 are stillheadquartered in Detroit, but the new factories have been everywhere else since the seventies duh.

I sunk your battleship it happend at the end of 2009... 2008 was the start. duh what are you smoking? pass it over here and quit boggarting....

yep you can't fix stupid ...

 

[billyerock1991]

No, we had a meltdown in Oct, 2008- duh. Clinton? What are you drinking lol?

The Big 3 are stillheadquartered in Detroit, but the new factories have been everywhere else since the seventies duh.

I sunk your battleship it happend at the end of 2009... 2008 was the start. duh what are you smoking? pass it over here and quit boggarting....

The recession started in late 2007 and got really bad in Sept 2008. I think you are off by a year.

of course he is ... that's the way they all work ... lie ... then lie some more .... to justfy their means

 

[CrazedScotsman]

Build a 30 foot high 10 feet thick wall around Detroit, dig a mote 100 yards wide and 50 feet deep around the outside of the wall, create a minefield 500 yards wide around the outside of the mote, put gaurd towers 100 feet apart all the way around the minefield with a high voltage electric fence between the gaurd towers, each gaurd tower is equipped with 2 mini-guns, radar, sonar for the mote and vibration sensors that will pick up anything that's 2000 feet below the surface and it's able to track the movement.

After all that is finished, clean out the prisons and drop them inside the walls and say, "Have a great day".

 

[billyerock1991]

Please tell me you're not for real.

roflol: roflol: roflol: please tell us you have a brain ... cause yours doesn't seem to be grasping reality .... I guess you forgot all the S&L problems he created ... I guess all of the tax hikes he made you forgot ... seems you forgot a lot ... when he deregulated the country ... these repub-lie-turds just don't seem to grasp reality...

You really ARE as dumb as you look, aren't you?

speaking of dumb and SJ pops up ... must of heard his calling ... here dumb shit .... here dumb shit ... time to say something moronic ....