Huge Percentage Of EV Owners Want To Go Back To Normal Cars, Study Finds

[Foxfyre]

The biggest issue by far is Biden's war.
And Americans becoming antiwar with Trump is a too bitter pill to swallow.

Or is it?

I'm sure that makes perfect sense to you or anybody else that hates America?

 

[Donald H]

I'm sure that makes perfect sense to you or anybody else that hates America?

You have so far at least, come closer to talking about the facts than any other American has dared!

 

[leftwinger]

Look my friend, if you choose to be a contrary spamming asshole, y

Translation: Canuck spouts off insane BS often and does not like his obvious insanity challenged. Get off the American boards then you crazed nutsack. You need medication.

 

[Donald H]

This administration puts people in jail for just being in the wrong place. You get thrown out of the military for just being politically incorrect. You are prosecuted if you are a threat to their power or agenda in any way. It is very brave to say you won't give up your gas guzzler. But if this government wants it, they'll dream up a law or manufacture a reason to take it and your alternative is give it up or go to jail and/or you and your family is destroyed.

You're taking this topic over the top with your melodrama.

Government will finally do the equivalent of taking away most gas cars but they won't send you to jail or destroy your entire family. I said 'equivalent'.

Keeping your gas car won't be a crime and it won't need to be dealt with as being illegal. If you or your family are harmed in any way, it will be by suicide motivated by an attitude that can't accept necessary change.

Start your re-education by understanding that 'liberty' isn't an insurance company that has found new ways to rip you off.

 

[Donald H]

I wish them all good luck.

I'll give up my gas guzzler when they can pry my cold dead hands from the steering wheel.

The point is, you can keep it, but you will have to bear the hardships the 'commie' government will bring to bear on those who are stubborn.

However, attitudes change and in 5 or 10 years time your cold hands won't even be thinking of touching a gas car wheel.
The 'commies' will make the idea far too expensive and unattractive to even you.

 

[Woodznutz]

The point is, you can keep it, but you will have to bear the hardships the 'commie' government will bring to bear on those who are stubborn.

However, attitudes change and in 5 or 10 years time your cold hands won't even be thinking of touching a gas car wheel.
The 'commies' will make the idea far too expensive and unattractive to even you.

I'll be long gone before ICEs are off the road.

 

[ding]

The point is, you can keep it, but you will have to bear the hardships the 'commie' government will bring to bear on those who are stubborn.

However, attitudes change and in 5 or 10 years time your cold hands won't even be thinking of touching a gas car wheel.
The 'commies' will make the idea far too expensive and unattractive to even you.

Not really. Error can't stand. You can't put a square peg in a round hole.

 

[Crick]

It's only a matter of time before battery technology allows faster charging and prices on EV's come down.

When that happens, no one will want an internal combustion engine in their car.

I agree, but right NOW, they are not doing very well in the market. I like two alternatives: hydrogen fuel cell and hybrids with hydrogen-burning ICEs on the fueled side. Of course both require a hydrogen infrastructure that currently can barely be said to exist at all.

And even imagine a hybrid using the lastest battery technology and a gasoline engine. With a range of 1,000 miles and a recharge time of ten minutes, you wouldn't burn a lot of gasoline.

How about an engine that could run on either gasoline or hydrogen - or even easier, one that can be switched between fuels by any competent mechanic or 'handy' car owner.

 

[Crick]

The electric power infrastructure can never meet the demand of EV's replacing gas. Both sides of the debate understand this!

I think almost no one in this country worries about that when they consider buying an EV or plug-in hybrid.

 

[odanny]

You're taking this topic over the top with your melodrama.

They come up from the Lounge and bring all kinds of uncessary drama into every post. They should stick to reading romance novels.

 

[1srelluc]

You call an ambulance and pay $300 for the ride to the hospital.

$300 is a deal.

 

[Woodznutz]

$300 is a deal.

That was the cost here last time I heard. Until recently this service was free. Insurance companies have to catch up on this.

 

[1srelluc]

That was the cost here last time I heard. Until recently this service was free. Insurance companies have to catch up on this.

The local VFD used to charge that (in the form of a donation) for a simple transport but they were threatened with being sued by Valley Medical System because they have have their own $1200 a pop fleet for a 20-odd mile ride.

 

[DGS49]

Most of the people I know who have EV's have multiple cars in their household, as I do.

For the record, my Tesla Model 3 LR gets about 4.2 miles per kWh, I pay, on average about 8c/kWh at home, so it would cost me less than $20 to go a thousand miles. Higher, of course if filling up at Superchargers, but I rarely do that.

My Dodge (Pentastar) gets about 22mpg, so it would consume 45 gallons of regular gas at, say, $3.50/gal to go that same thousand miles, so $160 for gas.

My Tesla handles like BMW's used to handle, and goes 0-60 in four seconds flat. It had a sticker price of $48k, discounted to $45k; I got a $7,500 tax credit and six months of free charging at Tesla Superchargers. So it would be fair to say that I paid about $36k for the car.

It requires zero maintenance and has a factory warranty of 120,000 miles for both the battery and motors.

It's all upside. Why some people get their rocks off claiming that EV's are bad is a mystery to me. The higher gas prices go, the more savings I will realize.

If I suddenly lost my mind and decided to replace the Tesla with a comparable ICE vehicle, what would that be? What would be better?

Nothing.

 

[Donald H]

The local VFD used to charge that (in the form of a donation) for a simple transport but they were threatened with being sued by Valley Medical System because they have have their own $1200 a pop fleet for a 20-odd mile ride.

You would rather have socialism or communism?

 

[1srelluc]

I got a $7,500 tax credit

So you are just fine with the taxpayer subsidizing your lifestyle.....Congratulations....You have joined the "Free Shit Army". What's next EBT?

 

[Woodznutz]

Most of the people I know who have EV's have multiple cars in their household, as I do.

For the record, my Tesla Model 3 LR gets about 4.2 miles per kWh, I pay, on average about 8c/kWh at home, so it would cost me less than $20 to go a thousand miles. Higher, of course if filling up at Superchargers, but I rarely do that.

My Dodge (Pentastar) gets about 22mpg, so it would consume 45 gallons of regular gas at, say, $3.50/gal to go that same thousand miles, so $160 for gas.

My Tesla handles like BMW's used to handle, and goes 0-60 in four seconds flat. It had a sticker price of $48k, discounted to $45k; I got a $7,500 tax credit and six months of free charging at Tesla Superchargers. So it would be fair to say that I paid about $36k for the car.

It requires zero maintenance and has a factory warranty of 120,000 miles for both the battery and motors.

It's all upside. Why some people get their rocks off claiming that EV's are bad is a mystery to me. The higher gas prices go, the more savings I will realize.

If I suddenly lost my mind and decided to replace the Tesla with a comparable ICE vehicle, what would that be? What would be better?

Nothing.

EVs and ICE cars that are similar have to be compared equally; miles driven and total cost of ownership over a reasonable time span. The deciding factor might be battery replacement down the road.

 

[Donald H]

So you are just fine with the taxpayer subsidizing your lifestyle.....Congratulations....You have joined the "Free Shit Army". What's next EBT?

That's what paying taxes is meant to do my friend. It's not meant to line the pockets of the very wealthy in America.

Bingo! Your contrariness has caused you to stumble on the bare facts of the purpose of taxation.

It can still be termed as taking OPM but it's never going to end in a capitalist system. LOL

 

[leftwinger]

Most of the people I know who have EV's have multiple cars in their household, as I do.

For the record, my Tesla Model 3 LR gets about 4.2 miles per kWh, I pay, on average about 8c/kWh at home, so it would cost me less than $20 to go a thousand miles. Higher, of course if filling up at Superchargers, but I rarely do that.

My Dodge (Pentastar) gets about 22mpg, so it would consume 45 gallons of regular gas at, say, $3.50/gal to go that same thousand miles, so $160 for gas.

My Tesla handles like BMW's used to handle, and goes 0-60 in four seconds flat. It had a sticker price of $48k, discounted to $45k; I got a $7,500 tax credit and six months of free charging at Tesla Superchargers. So it would be fair to say that I paid about $36k for the car.

It requires zero maintenance and has a factory warranty of 120,000 miles for both the battery and motors.

It's all upside. Why some people get their rocks off claiming that EV's are bad is a mystery to me. The higher gas prices go, the more savings I will realize.

If I suddenly lost my mind and decided to replace the Tesla with a comparable ICE vehicle, what would that be? What would be better?

Nothing.

so it would cost me less than $20 to go a thousand miles.
***???Stop and Go miles or 70-30 mix 75mph I-70? 8Cents KW/hr cost seems low compared to CA.

My cyl car can get 30MPG combined. At $3.50/gal cost for 1000 miles = $116.
Your effiency at highway miles was reported to drop to 30% 40% in post #1 on one of these EV threads.
You argue best case charge in cheap hours only in a cheap utility area?

 

[Donald H]

so it would cost me less than $20 to go a thousand miles.
***???Stop and Go miles or 70-30 mix 75mph I-70? 8Cents KW/hr cost seems low compared to CA.

My cyl car can get 30MPG combined. At $3.50/gal cost for 1000 miles = $116.
Your effiency at highway miles was reported to drop to 30% 40% in post #1 on one of these EV threads.
You argue best case charge in cheap hours only in a cheap utility area?

It was intended as a message for people like you. You 'got it' and that's good.

Now just call it $30 to account for conversion losses.

And start acting like a grown up instead of a contrary bitch on everything that gets in your brain.