I Don't Care if Trump followed the Law and Didn't Pay Taxes.

[Theowl32]

Does that affect me? No. Half the country doesn't pay taxes and their income is from the government! Do the laws have to be changed? Yes! The rich should lose their loopholes and the people who those that are on the government teat should have some skin in the game as well.

Let's talk about the important issues of this election. Security for the US; immigration laws followed; building a wall to discourage boundary runners; bringing back jobs for American citizens.

So Trump falls into that 47% that Romney was talking about. That comment, audio-taped surreptitiously, killed his campaign if I recall. So Americans don't like people who don't pay their taxes. I seem to remember another hotelier very much like Trump who became very unpopular when discovered that she and her husband didn't pay taxes, either:

"""Leona Helmsley will always be remembered for one of the most arrogant statements ever uttered: "We don't pay taxes. Only the little people pay taxes." A touching sentiment from the New York hotel tycoon widely dubbed the "Queen of Mean" but not one shared by a jury of her peers. In 1989 Helmsley received 16 years in prison for a wide variety of tax offenses resulting in several million dollars owed. And in a fitting bit of chronology, the judge ordered her prison sentence to start on April 15 — Tax Day!"""

He paid what was owed and not a dime more. Do you pay more then you owe?

More than, and yes I do. It's patriotic and makes it that much easier when you are audited. They like people who don't treat the IRS as the enemy.

You, are, so, full, of, shit.

 

[Jackson]

This is what a horrible businessman does in his spare time:

Trump Real Estate Portfolio: Donald J Trump Organization Luxury Residential Resort Hotel Golf Commercial Office Retail Property

Forty two properties that he owns. Not shabby.

 

[LeftofLeft]

What if he could drone somebody? Would that be acceptable?

 

[Moxie2]

So none of his money has to go to Israel, the vets, the wars, the veteran hospitals, no social programs except for him and his family, BS. I'm glad this came out and its time those loop holes are closed. They get rich off the back of others, give nothing back, NO WAY. Those non patriotic hoarders , munchers and loafers can start paying taxes, and the loopholes need to be closed.
Of course he is only showing that loss on paper, while he is living like a royal King who looks down on everyone. He is exactly what is wrong with America.

Clinton: Scumbag lawyer that gets off child rapists, lies and says whatever is needed to get elected, then sells influence to nations that support and harbor terrorism so she gets rich.

TRUMP: Created a world class, billion dollar empire. Created thousands of jobs. And yes, he lives like a Royal King. ON MONEY THAT HE ACTUALLY EARNED. You have no claim over it, nor is it any of your business or concern how he lives.

You are a Clinton supporter.

I disagree with your previous statement. YOU are exactly what is wrong with America.

 

[Flopper]

Does that affect me? No. Half the country doesn't pay taxes and their income is from the government! Do the laws have to be changed? Yes! The rich should lose their loopholes and the people who those that are on the government teat should have some skin in the game as well.

Let's talk about the important issues of this election. Security for the US; immigration laws followed; building a wall to discourage boundary runners; bringing back jobs for American citizens.

Mitt Romney got ripped to shreds in 2012. Romney is worth about 550 million and in that tax year paid 500K in Federal taxes, and he was ripped to shreds because his tax liability was based on the lower investment income tax rate.

And it was Mitt Romney who stated that Trump wasn't releasing his tax returns because there was a bombshell in them. He was right.
Mitt Romney: Trump Is Hiding a ‘Bombshell’ in His Tax Returns

Trump who claims to have a net worth of 10 BILLION dollars and brags about his wealth and hasn't paid a penny in Federal Taxes in 20 years, because he has this 20 year old 916 million loss, is either a horrible business man or is not near as wealthy as he claims to be. Anyone that wealthy and with that much capital should have easily wiped out that 916 million loss within a year not 20 years with revenue and income to offset it.

Here he is bragging about his wealth again.




You can be assured that the American public is not going to understand or accept it.

His loss was less that 10% of his wealth. How many businesses would accept that lost as opposed to what they actually had during those dreadful years.

How do you know what Trump's wealth is? I hope you're not going by what he says. Bloomberg estimates his net worth at 4 billion. Forbes has him at 3.7 billion. And BTW, the casino business was excellent in the 80's and 90's and the 90's were among the best in recent history for business in America.

Tax write offs using loopholes like intangible drilling costs, accelerated depreciation, revenue swaps with foreign subsidiaries, etc.. are smart business practices. Making bad decisions leading to bankruptcy is not. Anyone including Trump that thinks making decisions leading to losing nearly a billion dollars is smart business is just a bit nuts.

Donald Trump

well again, you're confusing business with individual. learn the tax codes.

No, I'm not confusing personal and business taxes. As I said, taking advantage of tax loopholes is good business however, that's not what this is about. Trump had massive write offs due to his bad business decisions. In the Taj, he paid Merv Griffin way too much to get full control of the property, he interfered with Harrah's who had the casino management contract, failed to provide the required parking, and his prime contractor turned the property over to management with major faults.

 

[Flopper]

So none of his money has to go to Israel, the vets, the wars, the veteran hospitals, no social programs except for him and his family, BS. I'm glad this came out and its time those loop holes are closed. They get rich off the back of others, give nothing back, NO WAY. Those non patriotic hoarders , munchers and loafers can start paying taxes, and the loopholes need to be closed.
Of course he is only showing that loss on paper, while he is living like a royal King who looks down on everyone. He is exactly what is wrong with America.

Clinton: Scumbag lawyer that gets off child rapists, lies and says whatever is needed to get elected, then sells influence to nations that support and harbor terrorism so she gets rich.

TRUMP: Created a world class, billion dollar empire. Created thousands of jobs. And yes, he lives like a Royal King. ON MONEY THAT HE ACTUALLY EARNED. You have no claim over it, nor is it any of your business or concern how he lives.

You are a Clinton supporter.

I disagree with your previous statement. YOU are exactly what is wrong with America.

When anyone decides to run for the presidency, his business and how he leads his life becomes the concern of millions of voters. His character, his success, his failures, and every detail that voters feel reflect on his qualifications for office become and open book. Trump has carefully concealed his business and personal life releasing only what he chose. Those days are long gone.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Does that affect me? No. Half the country doesn't pay taxes and their income is from the government! Do the laws have to be changed? Yes! The rich should lose their loopholes and the people who those that are on the government teat should have some skin in the game as well.

Let's talk about the important issues of this election. Security for the US; immigration laws followed; building a wall to discourage boundary runners; bringing back jobs for American citizens.

How does it affect you? Well the President could be a guy who will continue for rich people to pay no tax so he himself profits at your expense. Think how much LESS tax you'd have had to pay in the last 25 years had Trump had to pay taxes.

 

[Flopper]

Does that affect me? No. Half the country doesn't pay taxes and their income is from the government! Do the laws have to be changed? Yes! The rich should lose their loopholes and the people who those that are on the government teat should have some skin in the game as well.

Let's talk about the important issues of this election. Security for the US; immigration laws followed; building a wall to discourage boundary runners; bringing back jobs for American citizens.

How does it affect you? Well the President could be a guy who will continue for rich people to pay no tax so he himself profits at your expense. Think how much LESS tax you'd have had to pay in the last 25 years had Trump had to pay taxes.

A man who never served his country, didn't pay taxes, didn't even bother to vote as a young man, and expressed no interest in how his country was run, now at age 70 decides it would be fun to be president.

 

[Vigilante]

Does that affect me? No. Half the country doesn't pay taxes and their income is from the government! Do the laws have to be changed? Yes! The rich should lose their loopholes and the people who those that are on the government teat should have some skin in the game as well.

Let's talk about the important issues of this election. Security for the US; immigration laws followed; building a wall to discourage boundary runners; bringing back jobs for American citizens.

How does it affect you? Well the President could be a guy who will continue for rich people to pay no tax so he himself profits at your expense. Think how much LESS tax you'd have had to pay in the last 25 years had Trump had to pay taxes.

A man who never served his country, didn't pay taxes, didn't even bother to vote as a young man, and expressed no interest in how his country was run, now at age 70 decides it would be fun to be president.

I didn't know this was a Blow Job Clinton thread!

 

[Londoner]

Does that affect me? No. Half the country doesn't pay taxes and their income is from the government! Do the laws have to be changed? Yes! The rich should lose their loopholes and the people who those that are on the government teat should have some skin in the game as well.

Let's talk about the important issues of this election. Security for the US; immigration laws followed; building a wall to discourage boundary runners; bringing back jobs for American citizens.

I kind of understand your point, but you might consider some things.

Trump declared a near billion dollar loss in a single year because he drove several casinos and real estate investments and an airline into the ground. His creditors and all the workers/businesses he owed money to were harmed by his mismanagement.

He also declared bankruptcy six times in his business career; each time he was bailed out by the US Government / American taxpayer. This doesn't fit the image of an anti-government outsider who is going to fix the system. It fits the image of a corrupt insider, a taker, someone wo fucks little people and is now involved in the greatest con of his life.

Taxes pay for our military. Taxes pay for the legal system that protects your gun rights and private property.

Taxes pay to build walls, and taxes pay to fix red states like Lousiana after they have a flood.

How is Trump going to collect the massive tax revenue that will be required for his projects: to fix crumbling infrastructure and double the size of the military and create a massive wall and fix our immigration system? Republicans who consume a lot of talk radio but who haven't had much higher education tend not to understand what stuff like this costs or how big government will need to be to accomplish it.

 

[Claudette]

Everybody I know pays the least in taxes they can.

Yup. Common sense which the lefty loons don't seem to have.

Everyone I know does exactly that. Pay as little as they can get away with.

 

[sealybobo]

Does that affect me? No. Half the country doesn't pay taxes and their income is from the government! Do the laws have to be changed? Yes! The rich should lose their loopholes and the people who those that are on the government teat should have some skin in the game as well.

Let's talk about the important issues of this election. Security for the US; immigration laws followed; building a wall to discourage boundary runners; bringing back jobs for American citizens.

Then you don't care that he shifted the tax burden onto you and you don't care about the debt itself

 

[Skull Pilot]

Does that affect me? No. Half the country doesn't pay taxes and their income is from the government! Do the laws have to be changed? Yes! The rich should lose their loopholes and the people who those that are on the government teat should have some skin in the game as well.

Let's talk about the important issues of this election. Security for the US; immigration laws followed; building a wall to discourage boundary runners; bringing back jobs for American citizens.

Then you don't care that he shifted the tax burden onto you and you don't care about the debt itself

Whatever he would have paid wouldn't have done diddly shit for the debt.
And he didn't shift anything to anyone. If he took all legal deductions it was the politicians who put tho tax code in place that allocated the tax burden not Trump

 

[BuckToothMoron]

Dems are worrying so much about Trump tax returns, why aren't they worrying about Clintons foundation, Clinton body count, Benghazi tragedy? I could go on and on.
THE CLINTON BODY-COUNT | WHAT REALLY HAPPENED
The Clinton foundation is also linked directly to Ukrainian oligarchs:
UKRAINE
Leaked e-mail shows Soros urged Clinton to intervene in Albania civil unrest - The American Mirror
Assange: Vote for Hillary Clinton is ‘vote for endless, stupid war' which spreads terrorism

Dems are running of options to make Trump look bad. Sounds like pretty soon they will tell the voters: "Trump is unfit to be a president because he had diarrhea this morning. "

Because they are democrats and the clown not paying taxes is a winner for them. Issues...pfisss ....they don't need no stinking issues.

 

[BuckToothMoron]

Does that affect me? No. Half the country doesn't pay taxes and their income is from the government! Do the laws have to be changed? Yes! The rich should lose their loopholes and the people who those that are on the government teat should have some skin in the game as well.

Let's talk about the important issues of this election. Security for the US; immigration laws followed; building a wall to discourage boundary runners; bringing back jobs for American citizens.

Then you don't care that he shifted the tax burden onto you and you don't care about the debt itself

I don't think I care about the debt anymore, and I'm a conservative. Why should I?

 

[jillian]

So none of his money has to go to Israel, the vets, the wars, the veteran hospitals, no social programs except for him and his family, BS. I'm glad this came out and its time those loop holes are closed. They get rich off the back of others, give nothing back, NO WAY. Those non patriotic hoarders , munchers and loafers can start paying taxes, and the loopholes need to be closed.
Of course he is only showing that loss on paper, while he is living like a royal King who looks down on everyone. He is exactly what is wrong with America.

Well actually, nearly 50% of the citizens pay absolutely zero federal income taxes yet many receive thousands of dollars in tax refunds from other taxpayers. These use the federal highways, have their mail delivered by the postal service, have a military to protect them, and access to a whole slew of other federal benefits and programs. All Hillary and the Democrats preach election after election is how the wealthy need to pay their fair share. The simple truth is that the top 5% of the taxpayers are already paying 60% of the entire tax bill. The top 5% are the ones that could use just a little bit of help from the 50% who contribute nothoing at all.

why do you think what donald has done either with his taxes or with his foundation is legal?

 

[jillian]

Dems are worrying so much about Trump tax returns, why aren't they worrying about Clintons foundation, Clinton body count, Benghazi tragedy? I could go on and on.
THE CLINTON BODY-COUNT | WHAT REALLY HAPPENED
The Clinton foundation is also linked directly to Ukrainian oligarchs:
UKRAINE
Leaked e-mail shows Soros urged Clinton to intervene in Albania civil unrest - The American Mirror
Assange: Vote for Hillary Clinton is ‘vote for endless, stupid war' which spreads terrorism

Dems are running of options to make Trump look bad. Sounds like pretty soon they will tell the voters: "Trump is unfit to be a president because he had diarrhea this morning. "

Because they are democrats and the clown not paying taxes is a winner for them. Issues...pfisss ....they don't need no stinking issues.

^^^^^^^^^^^

typical rightwingnut who has zero understanding of any issue.

 

[Disir]

Does that affect me? No. Half the country doesn't pay taxes and their income is from the government! Do the laws have to be changed? Yes! The rich should lose their loopholes and the people who those that are on the government teat should have some skin in the game as well.

Let's talk about the important issues of this election. Security for the US; immigration laws followed; building a wall to discourage boundary runners; bringing back jobs for American citizens.

Then you don't care that he shifted the tax burden onto you and you don't care about the debt itself

Why did you ignore that bolded underlined statement?

 

[Penelope]

So none of his money has to go to Israel, the vets, the wars, the veteran hospitals, no social programs except for him and his family, BS. I'm glad this came out and its time those loop holes are closed. They get rich off the back of others, give nothing back, NO WAY. Those non patriotic hoarders , munchers and loafers can start paying taxes, and the loopholes need to be closed.
Of course he is only showing that loss on paper, while he is living like a royal King who looks down on everyone. He is exactly what is wrong with America.

Well actually, nearly 50% of the citizens pay absolutely zero federal income taxes yet many receive thousands of dollars in tax refunds from other taxpayers. These use the federal highways, have their mail delivered by the postal service, have a military to protect them, and access to a whole slew of other federal benefits and programs. All Hillary and the Democrats preach election after election is how the wealthy need to pay their fair share. The simple truth is that the top 5% of the taxpayers are already paying 60% of the entire tax bill. The top 5% are the ones that could use just a little bit of help from the 50% who contribute nothoing at all.

So none of his money has to go to Israel, the vets, the wars, the veteran hospitals, no social programs except for him and his family, BS. I'm glad this came out and its time those loop holes are closed. They get rich off the back of others, give nothing back, NO WAY. Those non patriotic hoarders , munchers and loafers can start paying taxes, and the loopholes need to be closed.
Of course he is only showing that loss on paper, while he is living like a royal King who looks down on everyone. He is exactly what is wrong with America.

Clinton: Scumbag lawyer that gets off child rapists, lies and says whatever is needed to get elected, then sells influence to nations that support and harbor terrorism so she gets rich.

TRUMP: Created a world class, billion dollar empire. Created thousands of jobs. And yes, he lives like a Royal King. ON MONEY THAT HE ACTUALLY EARNED. You have no claim over it, nor is it any of your business or concern how he lives.

You are a Clinton supporter.

I disagree with your previous statement. YOU are exactly what is wrong with America.

Me? We pay taxes, we even have a city income tax.

 

[Penelope]

This is what a horrible businessman does in his spare time:

Trump Real Estate Portfolio: Donald J Trump Organization Luxury Residential Resort Hotel Golf Commercial Office Retail Property

Forty two properties that he owns. Not shabby.

I encourage you to read about those properties , the disclaimers, for instance here is one in NJ.


Trump Plaza® Jersey City is not owned, developed or sold by Donald J. Trump,The Trump Organization or any of their affiliates. Vector Urban RenewalAssociates I, L.P., the owner and developer of the property, uses the"Trump" name and mark under license from Trump Marks Jersey City LLC, whichlicense may be terminated or revoked according to its terms.

and another:

"Trump Hollywood® is not owned, developed or sold by Donald J. Trump, The Trump Organization or any of their affiliates. TRG Holiday, Ltd., the owner and developer of the property, uses the "Trump" name and mark under license from Trump Marks Hollywood LLC, which license may be terminated or revoked according to its terms."

and another, Trump Towers in Flordia

"Trump Towers® is not owned, developed or sold by Donald J. Trump, The Trump Organization or any of their affiliates. Dezerbrand Florida LLC, the owner and developer of the property, uses the "Trump" name and mark under license from Trump Marks Sunny Isles II LLC, which license may be terminated or revoked according to its terms."