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so do ounces of prevention and pounds of cure.They both cost money.I don't understand why republicans reject both a minimum wage hike and welfare for the poor
Seriously? You complain about conservatives not giving a shit about workers and now your response is "so what if people get laid off"? Dude, you're a fucking mess and a waste of time.How happy are they going to be when they're laid off?Oxymoron
You are fighting for it, that is embracing it
I'm gonna fight for those i think really need the help. Because the money's gonna get spent. That's for sure. You should just to accept that and get past it. So, struggling Workers getting their piece? Sure, why not?
I understand what you're saying and, while I might not agree, I could at least have sympathy for your view if minimum wage laws actually did help people. Many other welfare state policies do help people, even if they may be bad for society as a whole, and I can see standing up for those in the face of all the other state corruption going on. I also agree that there's nothing more repulsive than the judgmental view of many conservatives that poor people "deserve" whatever suffering they experience.
But minimum wage laws are pablum - phony crap to sucker the dummies. They don't help workers, they simply make low wage jobs illegal.
That's cool. You're entitled to your opinion. But someone currently making $7hr is gonna be very happy now making $9/$11hr. I assure you, they see it much differently than you do.
Libs are bad at thought.
People get laid off all the time now. That's nothing new. Your 'Sky is Falling' scenario will not happen. It never does. The reality is, Businesses with bitch & moan about paying their Employees more for awhile, and then they'll shut up and deal with it. Life will go on. It always does.
Never said you should accept 'destruction.' I said you should accept that we are and always will be Big Government
Oxymoron
Never said you should accept 'destruction.' I said you should accept that we are and always will be Big Government. In fact, it's gonna get much bigger. There is no going back. I'm not embracing it, i'm just accepting reality.
You are fighting for it, that is embracing it
I'm gonna fight for those i think really need the help. Because the money's gonna get spent. That's for sure. You should just to accept that and get past it. So, struggling Workers getting their piece? Sure, why not?
I understand what you're saying and, while I might not agree, I could at least have sympathy for your view if minimum wage laws actually did help people. Many other welfare state policies do help people, even if they may be bad for society as a whole, and I can see standing up for those in the face of all the other state corruption going on. I also agree that there's nothing more repulsive than the judgmental view of many conservatives that poor people "deserve" whatever suffering they experience.
But minimum wage laws are pablum - phony crap to sucker the dummies. They don't help workers, they simply make low wage jobs illegal.
That's cool. You're entitled to your opinion. But someone currently making $7hr is gonna be very happy now making $9/$11hr. I assure you, they see it much differently than you do.
You are making the worst, least experienced more workers more expensive. You think that won't affect their employment? Don't take telemarketer calls or go to timeshare pitches.. SeriouslyNah, that's just greedy old fat ass 'Sky is Falling' Bullshite. 'Everyone' won't be fired. Trust me, it ain't gonna happen.Getting everyone fired not worth an arbitrary salary is helping them "catch a break?" You mean because they don't have to work on welfare?
I'm gonna fight for those i think really need the help. Because the money's gonna get spent. That's for sure. You should just to accept that and get past it. So, struggling Workers getting their piece? Sure, why not?
Of course, workers are too stupid to know they shouldn't take a job that doesn't pay what you consider enough, so you are helping them by removing their choice because of course you know better than they do to how to run their own lives.
Your view that companies will pay the same workers more is just more of your government loving delusion. You're accepting reality my ass, you're just another run of the mill arrogant leftist who knows more than everyone about everything so you think government should force everyone to do it your way
It has nothing to do with loving Government or not. You're still just living the fantasy that 'Small Government' is possible. One day you'll have to get past that. Big Government is here to stay.
So who or what will be the beneficiaries of the massive spending? That's the only question now. Personally, i'm good with American Workers getting a piece. Why not?
Never said you should accept 'destruction.' I said you should accept that we are and always will be Big Government
Oxymoron
Never said you should accept 'destruction.' I said you should accept that we are and always will be Big Government. In fact, it's gonna get much bigger. There is no going back. I'm not embracing it, i'm just accepting reality.
You are fighting for it, that is embracing it
I'm gonna fight for those i think really need the help. Because the money's gonna get spent. That's for sure. You should just to accept that and get past it. So, struggling Workers getting their piece? Sure, why not?
I understand what you're saying and, while I might not agree, I could at least have sympathy for your view if minimum wage laws actually did help people. Many other welfare state policies do help people, even if they may be bad for society as a whole, and I can see standing up for those in the face of all the other state corruption going on. I also agree that there's nothing more repulsive than the judgmental view of many conservatives that poor people "deserve" whatever suffering they experience.
But minimum wage laws are pablum - phony crap to sucker the dummies. They don't help workers, they simply make low wage jobs illegal.
Well put. Libertarianism isn't about the strawman we don't want government to help people, it's about the reality that it doesn't. And as you said, even in narrow cases where it helps individuals, it does more overall harm than good
Libertarianism is a fantasy that will never be reality. You're just banging your head against a wall ranting about 'Small Government' Libertarianism. It just ain't gonna happen. Too many are dependent on Big Government. It is what it is.
People get laid off all the time now. That's nothing new. Your 'Sky is Falling' scenario will not happen. It never does. The reality is, Businesses with bitch & moan about paying their Employees more for awhile, and then they'll shut up and deal with it. Life will go on. It always does.
Oxymoron
You are fighting for it, that is embracing it
I'm gonna fight for those i think really need the help. Because the money's gonna get spent. That's for sure. You should just to accept that and get past it. So, struggling Workers getting their piece? Sure, why not?
I understand what you're saying and, while I might not agree, I could at least have sympathy for your view if minimum wage laws actually did help people. Many other welfare state policies do help people, even if they may be bad for society as a whole, and I can see standing up for those in the face of all the other state corruption going on. I also agree that there's nothing more repulsive than the judgmental view of many conservatives that poor people "deserve" whatever suffering they experience.
But minimum wage laws are pablum - phony crap to sucker the dummies. They don't help workers, they simply make low wage jobs illegal.
That's cool. You're entitled to your opinion. But someone currently making $7hr is gonna be very happy now making $9/$11hr. I assure you, they see it much differently than you do.
And someone who can't convince someone to pay them $9/$11hr, but could get work at $7hr, is going to be out of luck. And they will see it differently than you do.
If you're paying people $7hr, you're likely a real piece of shit. The individual would be better off seeking Government assistance. Who can live on $7hr in today's America?
He doesnt give a shit about workers. That's obvious.People get laid off all the time now. That's nothing new. Your 'Sky is Falling' scenario will not happen. It never does. The reality is, Businesses with bitch & moan about paying their Employees more for awhile, and then they'll shut up and deal with it. Life will go on. It always does.
True, life will go on. We will fire a bunch of them right away. Some we will replace with better workers who we can attract with the higher pay. We will convert full time to part time and otherwise cut hours from the rest. We will cut benefits. We will automate and streamline processes then fire more of them.
Oh, life will go on for us, your victims not so much...
Seriously? You complain about conservatives not giving a shit about workers and now your response is "so what if people get laid off"? Dude, you're a fucking mess and a waste of time.How happy are they going to be when they're laid off?I'm gonna fight for those i think really need the help. Because the money's gonna get spent. That's for sure. You should just to accept that and get past it. So, struggling Workers getting their piece? Sure, why not?
I understand what you're saying and, while I might not agree, I could at least have sympathy for your view if minimum wage laws actually did help people. Many other welfare state policies do help people, even if they may be bad for society as a whole, and I can see standing up for those in the face of all the other state corruption going on. I also agree that there's nothing more repulsive than the judgmental view of many conservatives that poor people "deserve" whatever suffering they experience.
But minimum wage laws are pablum - phony crap to sucker the dummies. They don't help workers, they simply make low wage jobs illegal.
That's cool. You're entitled to your opinion. But someone currently making $7hr is gonna be very happy now making $9/$11hr. I assure you, they see it much differently than you do.
Libs are bad at thought.
People get laid off all the time now. That's nothing new. Your 'Sky is Falling' scenario will not happen. It never does. The reality is, Businesses with bitch & moan about paying their Employees more for awhile, and then they'll shut up and deal with it. Life will go on. It always does.
Never said you should accept 'destruction.' I said you should accept that we are and always will be Big Government
Oxymoron
Never said you should accept 'destruction.' I said you should accept that we are and always will be Big Government. In fact, it's gonna get much bigger. There is no going back. I'm not embracing it, i'm just accepting reality.
You are fighting for it, that is embracing it
I'm gonna fight for those i think really need the help. Because the money's gonna get spent. That's for sure. You should just to accept that and get past it. So, struggling Workers getting their piece? Sure, why not?
I understand what you're saying and, while I might not agree, I could at least have sympathy for your view if minimum wage laws actually did help people. Many other welfare state policies do help people, even if they may be bad for society as a whole, and I can see standing up for those in the face of all the other state corruption going on. I also agree that there's nothing more repulsive than the judgmental view of many conservatives that poor people "deserve" whatever suffering they experience.
But minimum wage laws are pablum - phony crap to sucker the dummies. They don't help workers, they simply make low wage jobs illegal.
That's cool. You're entitled to your opinion. But someone currently making $7hr is gonna be very happy now making $9/$11hr. I assure you, they see it much differently than you do.
The person making $7 an hour will actually be sitting at home filing for unemployment, then welfare. The guy who took his job is the one who'll be happy
You are making the worst, least experienced more workers more expensive. You think that won't affect their employment? Don't take telemarketer calls or go to timeshare pitches.. SeriouslyNah, that's just greedy old fat ass 'Sky is Falling' Bullshite. 'Everyone' won't be fired. Trust me, it ain't gonna happen.Getting everyone fired not worth an arbitrary salary is helping them "catch a break?" You mean because they don't have to work on welfare?
I'm gonna fight for those i think really need the help. Because the money's gonna get spent. That's for sure. You should just to accept that and get past it. So, struggling Workers getting their piece? Sure, why not?
I understand what you're saying and, while I might not agree, I could at least have sympathy for your view if minimum wage laws actually did help people. Many other welfare state policies do help people, even if they may be bad for society as a whole, and I can see standing up for those in the face of all the other state corruption going on. I also agree that there's nothing more repulsive than the judgmental view of many conservatives that poor people "deserve" whatever suffering they experience.
But minimum wage laws are pablum - phony crap to sucker the dummies. They don't help workers, they simply make low wage jobs illegal.
That's cool. You're entitled to your opinion. But someone currently making $7hr is gonna be very happy now making $9/$11hr. I assure you, they see it much differently than you do.
And someone who can't convince someone to pay them $9/$11hr, but could get work at $7hr, is going to be out of luck. And they will see it differently than you do.
If you're paying people $7hr, you're likely a real piece of shit. The individual would be better off seeking Government assistance. Who can live on $7hr in today's America?
Why would a high schooler in their first job need to "live on it." How do the inner city teens who can't get any job because of minimum wages supposed to get by without it?
Was that supposed to be responsive to what I wrote? You dont give a shit about workers and you just proved it in your post. No amount of name calling and blind assertions will change that.Seriously? You complain about conservatives not giving a shit about workers and now your response is "so what if people get laid off"? Dude, you're a fucking mess and a waste of time.How happy are they going to be when they're laid off?I understand what you're saying and, while I might not agree, I could at least have sympathy for your view if minimum wage laws actually did help people. Many other welfare state policies do help people, even if they may be bad for society as a whole, and I can see standing up for those in the face of all the other state corruption going on. I also agree that there's nothing more repulsive than the judgmental view of many conservatives that poor people "deserve" whatever suffering they experience.
But minimum wage laws are pablum - phony crap to sucker the dummies. They don't help workers, they simply make low wage jobs illegal.
That's cool. You're entitled to your opinion. But someone currently making $7hr is gonna be very happy now making $9/$11hr. I assure you, they see it much differently than you do.
Libs are bad at thought.
People get laid off all the time now. That's nothing new. Your 'Sky is Falling' scenario will not happen. It never does. The reality is, Businesses with bitch & moan about paying their Employees more for awhile, and then they'll shut up and deal with it. Life will go on. It always does.
Greedy people like you have been laying Americans off and Outsourcing their jobs for many years, So yes, i'm sure some greedy Republicans will continue doing that. But your 'Sky is Falling' fantasy isn't gonna happen. Life really will go on.
Do you know anyone who isnt greedy?I understand what you're saying and, while I might not agree, I could at least have sympathy for your view if minimum wage laws actually did help people. Many other welfare state policies do help people, even if they may be bad for society as a whole, and I can see standing up for those in the face of all the other state corruption going on. I also agree that there's nothing more repulsive than the judgmental view of many conservatives that poor people "deserve" whatever suffering they experience.
But minimum wage laws are pablum - phony crap to sucker the dummies. They don't help workers, they simply make low wage jobs illegal.
That's cool. You're entitled to your opinion. But someone currently making $7hr is gonna be very happy now making $9/$11hr. I assure you, they see it much differently than you do.
And someone who can't convince someone to pay them $9/$11hr, but could get work at $7hr, is going to be out of luck. And they will see it differently than you do.
If you're paying people $7hr, you're likely a real piece of shit. The individual would be better off seeking Government assistance. Who can live on $7hr in today's America?
Why would a high schooler in their first job need to "live on it." How do the inner city teens who can't get any job because of minimum wages supposed to get by without it?
You're too greedy and out of touch. Pretty much sums up the Republican Party at this point. It's kinda sad.
Oxymoron
You are fighting for it, that is embracing it
I'm gonna fight for those i think really need the help. Because the money's gonna get spent. That's for sure. You should just to accept that and get past it. So, struggling Workers getting their piece? Sure, why not?
I understand what you're saying and, while I might not agree, I could at least have sympathy for your view if minimum wage laws actually did help people. Many other welfare state policies do help people, even if they may be bad for society as a whole, and I can see standing up for those in the face of all the other state corruption going on. I also agree that there's nothing more repulsive than the judgmental view of many conservatives that poor people "deserve" whatever suffering they experience.
But minimum wage laws are pablum - phony crap to sucker the dummies. They don't help workers, they simply make low wage jobs illegal.
That's cool. You're entitled to your opinion. But someone currently making $7hr is gonna be very happy now making $9/$11hr. I assure you, they see it much differently than you do.
The person making $7 an hour will actually be sitting at home filing for unemployment, then welfare. The guy who took his job is the one who'll be happy
Sadly, he'll do better on Unemployment. That's how bad things have gotten in this country. Thanks to people like you. WTG, ya greedy pricks ya.
You are making the worst, least experienced more workers more expensive. You think that won't affect their employment? Don't take telemarketer calls or go to timeshare pitches.. SeriouslyNah, that's just greedy old fat ass 'Sky is Falling' Bullshite. 'Everyone' won't be fired. Trust me, it ain't gonna happen.Getting everyone fired not worth an arbitrary salary is helping them "catch a break?" You mean because they don't have to work on welfare?
Trust me, the greedy fat asses will bitch & moan for awhile, then they'll shut up and deal with it. Just like all the other times Minimum Wage was increased. The sky ain't gonna fall. That's just shameful greedy fat ass wishful thinking.
I understand what you're saying and, while I might not agree, I could at least have sympathy for your view if minimum wage laws actually did help people. Many other welfare state policies do help people, even if they may be bad for society as a whole, and I can see standing up for those in the face of all the other state corruption going on. I also agree that there's nothing more repulsive than the judgmental view of many conservatives that poor people "deserve" whatever suffering they experience.
But minimum wage laws are pablum - phony crap to sucker the dummies. They don't help workers, they simply make low wage jobs illegal.
That's cool. You're entitled to your opinion. But someone currently making $7hr is gonna be very happy now making $9/$11hr. I assure you, they see it much differently than you do.
And someone who can't convince someone to pay them $9/$11hr, but could get work at $7hr, is going to be out of luck. And they will see it differently than you do.
If you're paying people $7hr, you're likely a real piece of shit. The individual would be better off seeking Government assistance. Who can live on $7hr in today's America?
Why would a high schooler in their first job need to "live on it." How do the inner city teens who can't get any job because of minimum wages supposed to get by without it?
You're too greedy and out of touch. Pretty much sums up the Republican Party at this point. It's kinda sad.
Was that supposed to be responsive to what I wrote? You dont give a shit about workers and you just proved it in your post. No amount of name calling and blind assertions will change that.Seriously? You complain about conservatives not giving a shit about workers and now your response is "so what if people get laid off"? Dude, you're a fucking mess and a waste of time.How happy are they going to be when they're laid off?That's cool. You're entitled to your opinion. But someone currently making $7hr is gonna be very happy now making $9/$11hr. I assure you, they see it much differently than you do.
Libs are bad at thought.
People get laid off all the time now. That's nothing new. Your 'Sky is Falling' scenario will not happen. It never does. The reality is, Businesses with bitch & moan about paying their Employees more for awhile, and then they'll shut up and deal with it. Life will go on. It always does.
Greedy people like you have been laying Americans off and Outsourcing their jobs for many years, So yes, i'm sure some greedy Republicans will continue doing that. But your 'Sky is Falling' fantasy isn't gonna happen. Life really will go on.
You are a big fail of a hypocrite.
Oxymoron
You are fighting for it, that is embracing it
I'm gonna fight for those i think really need the help. Because the money's gonna get spent. That's for sure. You should just to accept that and get past it. So, struggling Workers getting their piece? Sure, why not?
I understand what you're saying and, while I might not agree, I could at least have sympathy for your view if minimum wage laws actually did help people. Many other welfare state policies do help people, even if they may be bad for society as a whole, and I can see standing up for those in the face of all the other state corruption going on. I also agree that there's nothing more repulsive than the judgmental view of many conservatives that poor people "deserve" whatever suffering they experience.
But minimum wage laws are pablum - phony crap to sucker the dummies. They don't help workers, they simply make low wage jobs illegal.
That's cool. You're entitled to your opinion. But someone currently making $7hr is gonna be very happy now making $9/$11hr. I assure you, they see it much differently than you do.
The person making $7 an hour will actually be sitting at home filing for unemployment, then welfare. The guy who took his job is the one who'll be happy
Sadly, he'll do better on Unemployment. That's how bad things have gotten in this country. Thanks to people like you. WTG, ya greedy pricks ya.
