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Where do you get your figures from?And where do you get your figures from?
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Where do you get your figures from?And where do you get your figures from?
You don't do shit but parrot- is he in your pocket, or is he a frog?We allow the Employer
I've never had a flu shot and I've had the flu twice in the last 15 or so years. One time more severe than the other- I'm still here, I'll turn 73 later this month, smoke cigarettes and drink coffee- coffee is the think drink- and I do a lot of both, coffee and thinking for myself- I don't pay attention to talking heads regardless of their claim to fame-I used to get inoculated annually ,
And where do you get your figures from?
But it's not coming out that Employers are going to require workers to get the vaccine to continue employment or the employee will be dismissed. And it's legal. So, you exercise your right not to get the vaccine and your employer exercises their rights to terminate you. Sounds fair to me.
i'm about the same 'tude Gdjjr.I've never had a flu shot and I've had the flu twice in the last 15 or so years. One time more severe than the other- I'm still here, I'll turn 73 later this month, smoke cigarettes and drink coffee- coffee is the think drink- and I do a lot of both, coffee and thinking for myself- I don't pay attention to talking heads regardless of their claim to fame-I used to get inoculated annually ,
Yep... That's the only way I'll take the flu or the Covid shot. Company pays for it, and requires it. Until I got hit by Covid, I haven't missed a day of work in over a decade for a virus/bacterial infection outside of Pericarditis...And where do you get your figures from? You don't want to be innoculated, fine. But it's not coming out that Employers are going to require workers to get the vaccine to continue employment or the employee will be dismissed. And it's legal. So, you exercise your right not to get the vaccine and your employer exercises their rights to terminate you. Sounds fair to me. We allow the Employer to protect their business.
And where do you get your figures from?
I'm purposely not posting a source Daryl
I'm asking any inquiry simply do their own research
you may be surprised....
But it's not coming out that Employers are going to require workers to get the vaccine to continue employment or the employee will be dismissed. And it's legal. So, you exercise your right not to get the vaccine and your employer exercises their rights to terminate you. Sounds fair to me.
It does to many, but giving governance the means of control is dubious at best
inasmuch as i applaude your bravado.....they 'eff up way too much, and are in some corporate back pocket for me to be as trusting as you are.
further, the very HC professionals targeted for the first round have maybe a 2/3rd's conceding , now why is that if the manufacturers are lauding a 95% efficacy rate?
Look, i was on the frontlines as an emt for decades , they inoculated the living sh*t outta me ok? here's how it works, the WHO and CDC travel back around the globe 6 months ahead of 'flu season', isolate their best guess , and tell the pharmacabal they need to manufacture a million doses of 'nasty asian bat shit virus' dope.
And yes, it's 95% or better effective, in January .......by Sept /Octo, the bugs mutated more times than dones has pills......you might be getting 35% at best
So what do you thing our lovely pharmacabal, now on the hook for all those does is going to tell us???
and don't get me going on the FDA, if bullsh*t had wings, they'd be O’Hare International
~S~
MDs are making a fortune on COVID.I’m sure you already realize same as me even if you had tested positive,you would be normal again in a couple of days just shelving was the fact as we both know,it’s no more dangerous than the common cold.I tested positive.
Negative for coronavirus though.
It's killed over 250,000 Americans. 90% of whom were over 64 and/or had severe existing diagnoses.
So THOSE are the folks we NEED to protect. And we've done a fucking AWFUL job of that..
Imagine if we DID NOT send Covid positive seniors BACK to their senior living facilities.. 40% of deaths have occurred from spread in those facilities.. Instead dedicated facilities for non-critical covid cases that have "no current home" other than a senior living facility..
It's almost as tho "THEY" needed this carnage to strike up enough fear and a healthy death toll.
Imagine if we JUST INNOCULATED all the folks that DO RISK hospitalization and death... -- IF THAT HAPPENS -- there's no longer persistent panic and crisis and CV-19 DOES become more like the carnage from a yearly flu..
But here YOU ARE -- telling folks NOT to get innoculated. You're definitely on team "Part of the Problem" and NOT even eligible for team "Part of the Solution"...
When the history of this pandemic is written -- we're ALL GONNA cringe because we didn't create the special facilities to isolate the covid positive seniors from their vulnerable neighbors in senior living.. And we had morons like you telling the people most likely to die from CVid -- not to take the vaccine..
Damn, who built that fire under your skirts. I concur 100%. Pardon me if I don't even give you a hard time on this. It's just too damned serious to play games with.
Something's seriously wrong our war plan on Covid.. I can't imagine WHY nearly EVERY state would be ignoring the elephant in the room as to WHO is dying and WHY.. And it's sickened me for 8 months now watching this unconscionable carnage continue..
Folks have brought it up.. Not like I'm the ONLY ONE to notice this.. But it takes CONSCIOUS EFFORT NOT TO SOLVE THIS about 6 or 7 months ago..
I could be real cynical and just say it's "budget reduction" in Soc Sec/Medicare/Medicaid costs by attrition.. Because there's gonna be tremendous outrage eventually when we realized what a poor job was done on minimizing our hospitalization and death rate..
Aint ONE PERSON.. Not Andy Cuomo or Trump.. It's SOMEHOW -- a system-wide failure..
I’m sure you already realize same as me even if you had tested positive,you would be normal again in a couple of days just shelving was the fact as we both know,it’s no more dangerous than the common cold.I tested positive.
Negative for coronavirus though.
It's killed over 250,000 Americans. 90% of whom were over 64 and/or had severe existing diagnoses.
So THOSE are the folks we NEED to protect. And we've done a fucking AWFUL job of that..
Imagine if we DID NOT send Covid positive seniors BACK to their senior living facilities.. 40% of deaths have occurred from spread in those facilities.. Instead dedicated facilities for non-critical covid cases that have "no current home" other than a senior living facility..
It's almost as tho "THEY" needed this carnage to strike up enough fear and a healthy death toll.
Imagine if we JUST INNOCULATED all the folks that DO RISK hospitalization and death... -- IF THAT HAPPENS -- there's no longer persistent panic and crisis and CV-19 DOES become more like the carnage from a yearly flu..
But here YOU ARE -- telling folks NOT to get innoculated. You're definitely on team "Part of the Problem" and NOT even eligible for team "Part of the Solution"...
When the history of this pandemic is written -- we're ALL GONNA cringe because we didn't create the special facilities to isolate the covid positive seniors from their vulnerable neighbors in senior living.. And we had morons like you telling the people most likely to die from CVid -- not to take the vaccine..
Damn, who built that fire under your skirts. I concur 100%. Pardon me if I don't even give you a hard time on this. It's just too damned serious to play games with.
Something's seriously wrong our war plan on Covid.. I can't imagine WHY nearly EVERY state would be ignoring the elephant in the room as to WHO is dying and WHY.. And it's sickened me for 8 months now watching this unconscionable carnage continue..
Folks have brought it up.. Not like I'm the ONLY ONE to notice this.. But it takes CONSCIOUS EFFORT NOT TO SOLVE THIS about 6 or 7 months ago..
I could be real cynical and just say it's "budget reduction" in Soc Sec/Medicare/Medicaid costs by attrition.. Because there's gonna be tremendous outrage eventually when we realized what a poor job was done on minimizing our hospitalization and death rate..
Aint ONE PERSON.. Not Andy Cuomo or Trump.. It's SOMEHOW -- a system-wide failure..
I saw a thing in the news where a resturaunt owner crashed in on a news reporter and came unglued about the Covid Relief. He made a very good point. His small shop was dying while the big shops were thriving and not one dime of the relief made it's way to him nor his employees except for that one time payment of 1200 bucks. He said that we should have completely shut down for 2 or 3 months, got a handle on things and then fully reopened.
That makes sense. It's the way the 1918/19 Swine Flu was beaten with no vaccine available. They just removed the available hosts until it died out to a manageable and traceable level. And no one was above the exception. If you didn't comply, you were isolated forcibly. Now, that was one nasty time but it had to be done. And Covid is just as nasty as the Spanish Flu in the long run.
We are going to end up hitting over 500,000 covid 19 related deaths by the time it ends. Yes, we will end up in 18 months, the same or more death toll of the number of Americans lost to World War II in 3 years. I think I would have traded Covid 19 for a war in heart beat. War I understand. Epidemics I don't understand.
Dont' need isolate everyone.. Only the ones that are most LIKELY to die or need hospitalization..
LIKE YOU !!!! LOL... Before you get the "golden ticket".
For Spanish flu -- the ELDERLY were somewhat immune actually.. And it was EVERYONE else that had the bigger health risk...
The really sad part is, they estimate that over 40% of the population will refuse to take the vaccination. Considering that 1 out of 20 currently are carrying the Covid (not necessarily has it) during the vaccinated time,it will drop only to 1 in 30. In 3 months, the vaccination is scheduled to wear off and it goes back to 1 in 20 again. If everyone were to do the PPP things, we wouldn't need to be shut down nearly as tight and we could get it down to maybe 1 out of 100 and with the vaccination, down to 1 out of 200 and the contact tracing would work. Right now, contact tracing is virtually worthless.
Hate to mention this -- but your obnoxious 4 year support of Progressive/Socialists as being any kind of rational option to Trump -- JUST MAY -- ruin your clear shot at "first in line" for the vaccine.
Various groups of "diversity scholars and activists" are already lined up to challenge the CDC "priority list" for CVid vaccinations as RACIST and not diverse enough.. Good chance they'll go to court for injunctions on who "gets it first"..
That's the consequence of everything you frantically worked for the past years. I'm SURE you'll understand if it bites you in the ass...
I am trying very hard to keep party politics out of this. And my obnoxious support has been for only 3 years. And that has been to send Rump packing. My down ballet was mostly republican. I am a good Republican but despise the Party of the Rump.
That being said, the VA is beyond your fear of politics. We have our own way of operating beyond the civilian world. Too bad the rest of the US won't copy it and adopt it. Don't that just bite you Rumpers in the ass that you can't control everything in your sight?
I had it... Why would I want the shot against it? What's it going to do, give me MORE antibodies? What's the point?The company doesn't pay for it anymore than you would have to. It's free of charge. You are still trying to weazel your way out.
oh i don't doubt the mask nazi's will morph into vaccine nazi's Daryl.You are still weazeling. You'll either take it or be unemployed.
A record 3,054 died from the COVIDS yesterday.
THOUSANDS died because this country largely shut down cardiac and cancer care for 90 days or more this spring
I had it... Why would I want the shot against it? What's it going to do, give me MORE antibodies? What's the point?
I’m sure you already realize same as me even if you had tested positive,you would be normal again in a couple of days just shelving was the fact as we both know,it’s no more dangerous than the common cold.I tested positive.
Negative for coronavirus though.
It's killed over 250,000 Americans. 90% of whom were over 64 and/or had severe existing diagnoses.
So THOSE are the folks we NEED to protect. And we've done a fucking AWFUL job of that..
Imagine if we DID NOT send Covid positive seniors BACK to their senior living facilities.. 40% of deaths have occurred from spread in those facilities.. Instead dedicated facilities for non-critical covid cases that have "no current home" other than a senior living facility..
It's almost as tho "THEY" needed this carnage to strike up enough fear and a healthy death toll.
Imagine if we JUST INNOCULATED all the folks that DO RISK hospitalization and death... -- IF THAT HAPPENS -- there's no longer persistent panic and crisis and CV-19 DOES become more like the carnage from a yearly flu..
But here YOU ARE -- telling folks NOT to get innoculated. You're definitely on team "Part of the Problem" and NOT even eligible for team "Part of the Solution"...
When the history of this pandemic is written -- we're ALL GONNA cringe because we didn't create the special facilities to isolate the covid positive seniors from their vulnerable neighbors in senior living.. And we had morons like you telling the people most likely to die from CVid -- not to take the vaccine..
Damn, who built that fire under your skirts. I concur 100%. Pardon me if I don't even give you a hard time on this. It's just too damned serious to play games with.
Something's seriously wrong our war plan on Covid.. I can't imagine WHY nearly EVERY state would be ignoring the elephant in the room as to WHO is dying and WHY.. And it's sickened me for 8 months now watching this unconscionable carnage continue..
Folks have brought it up.. Not like I'm the ONLY ONE to notice this.. But it takes CONSCIOUS EFFORT NOT TO SOLVE THIS about 6 or 7 months ago..
I could be real cynical and just say it's "budget reduction" in Soc Sec/Medicare/Medicaid costs by attrition.. Because there's gonna be tremendous outrage eventually when we realized what a poor job was done on minimizing our hospitalization and death rate..
Aint ONE PERSON.. Not Andy Cuomo or Trump.. It's SOMEHOW -- a system-wide failure..
I saw a thing in the news where a resturaunt owner crashed in on a news reporter and came unglued about the Covid Relief. He made a very good point. His small shop was dying while the big shops were thriving and not one dime of the relief made it's way to him nor his employees except for that one time payment of 1200 bucks. He said that we should have completely shut down for 2 or 3 months, got a handle on things and then fully reopened.
That makes sense. It's the way the 1918/19 Swine Flu was beaten with no vaccine available. They just removed the available hosts until it died out to a manageable and traceable level. And no one was above the exception. If you didn't comply, you were isolated forcibly. Now, that was one nasty time but it had to be done. And Covid is just as nasty as the Spanish Flu in the long run.
We are going to end up hitting over 500,000 covid 19 related deaths by the time it ends. Yes, we will end up in 18 months, the same or more death toll of the number of Americans lost to World War II in 3 years. I think I would have traded Covid 19 for a war in heart beat. War I understand. Epidemics I don't understand.
Dont' need isolate everyone.. Only the ones that are most LIKELY to die or need hospitalization..
LIKE YOU !!!! LOL... Before you get the "golden ticket".
For Spanish flu -- the ELDERLY were somewhat immune actually.. And it was EVERYONE else that had the bigger health risk...
The really sad part is, they estimate that over 40% of the population will refuse to take the vaccination. Considering that 1 out of 20 currently are carrying the Covid (not necessarily has it) during the vaccinated time,it will drop only to 1 in 30. In 3 months, the vaccination is scheduled to wear off and it goes back to 1 in 20 again. If everyone were to do the PPP things, we wouldn't need to be shut down nearly as tight and we could get it down to maybe 1 out of 100 and with the vaccination, down to 1 out of 200 and the contact tracing would work. Right now, contact tracing is virtually worthless.
Hate to mention this -- but your obnoxious 4 year support of Progressive/Socialists as being any kind of rational option to Trump -- JUST MAY -- ruin your clear shot at "first in line" for the vaccine.
Various groups of "diversity scholars and activists" are already lined up to challenge the CDC "priority list" for CVid vaccinations as RACIST and not diverse enough.. Good chance they'll go to court for injunctions on who "gets it first"..
That's the consequence of everything you frantically worked for the past years. I'm SURE you'll understand if it bites you in the ass...
I am trying very hard to keep party politics out of this. And my obnoxious support has been for only 3 years. And that has been to send Rump packing. My down ballet was mostly republican. I am a good Republican but despise the Party of the Rump.
That being said, the VA is beyond your fear of politics. We have our own way of operating beyond the civilian world. Too bad the rest of the US won't copy it and adopt it. Don't that just bite you Rumpers in the ass that you can't control everything in your sight?
Sorry man.. No JEB!!! choice, no Romney choice.. You worked FOR the progressive movement. And they threaten EVERYTHING.. Including possibly countermanding science/medical advice on WHO should be innoculated first..
Your VA is NOT IMMUNE from prank court orders to score vaccine reciepients by diversity points.
How should people of color get priority for a Covid-19 vaccine? - STAT (statnews.com)
“Having a racial preference for a Covid-19 vaccine is not only ethically permissible, but I think it’s an ethical imperative,” said Lawrence Gostin, a professor of global health law at Georgetown University. “The reason is both because of historic structural racism that’s resulted in grossly unequal health outcomes for all kinds of diseases, and because Covid-19 has so disproportionately impacted the lives of people of color.”
You'll get the blowback one way or another for your theatrics.. Welcome to the health "reparations" brigade...
I had it... Why would I want the shot against it? What's it going to do, give me MORE antibodies? What's the point?The company doesn't pay for it anymore than you would have to. It's free of charge. You are still trying to weazel your way out.
Who says? Need a link for that one.Because the next time, it's going to be much worse. You only have an immunity for about 45 days.I had it... Why would I want the shot against it? What's it going to do, give me MORE antibodies? What's the point?The company doesn't pay for it anymore than you would have to. It's free of charge. You are still trying to weazel your way out.
Same thing Willie says- there's more old dunks than there are old Dr's.what could i possible say ????
Who says? Need a link for that one.Because the next time, it's going to be much worse. You only have an immunity for about 45 days.I had it... Why would I want the shot against it? What's it going to do, give me MORE antibodies? What's the point?The company doesn't pay for it anymore than you would have to. It's free of charge. You are still trying to weazel your way out.
Last time I looked there were four people who caught it more than once. In the world. I'm sure the number is quite a bit higher than that, these were just the ones that were provable. Be that as it may, I think your number you just threw out there is bullshit.
oh i don't doubt the mask nazi's will morph into vaccine nazi's Daryl.You are still weazeling. You'll either take it or be unemployed.
they'll start w/HC workers , then it'll be passport/airport/theater & meal ticket dependent.
but how that same governance empowered to do so will distinguish betwixt those inoculated ,and those not is the big Q.......
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A record 3,054 died from the COVIDS yesterday.
and less and less from influenza, etc etc....
In Unprecedented Move CDC Stops Tracking Influenza for 2020-21 Flu Season
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multiply ^^^ X's the last 8 months, X's 52 states & 6000 hospitals
OR, maybe start seriously looking @ our national mortality rate>
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then consider it by %.
we are 300 million residents
we loose 1% annually, an all inclusive #
Not 2%, or 3%
Europe lost 30 odd % during their black plague
THOUSANDS died because this country largely shut down cardiac and cancer care for 90 days or more this spring
Are Hospitals Really Over-Crowded due to COVID Sick Patients?
I had it... Why would I want the shot against it? What's it going to do, give me MORE antibodies? What's the point?
fear> rejects science > allows for control Shelzin.
panic porn abounds> Multiple experts say up to 70% of Americans could be infected with the coronavirus and 1 million could die if no treatment is found — so people over 60 should 'stay home unless it's critical'
the majority of us will contract covid, the majority of us will have our own immunological system beat it
but they'll keep beating the same old asymptomatic drum, which allows them to play us like a bad episode of walking dead
~S~