I have been waiting two days to post this thread: Anti-union challengers are on the verge of victory

[Wyatt earp]

Why didn't anyone think it was significant besides me?


Public sector unions are finished..


Anti-union challengers are on the verge of victory at Supreme Court


Anti-union challengers are on the verge of victory at Supreme Court


WASHINGTON — Dianne Knox describes herself as "a child of the '60s." Pam Harris grew up a butcher's daughter in a proud union household. Rebecca Friedrichs was secretary of her local teachers' union. Mark Janus supports the rights of workers to organize.


A 5-4 decision against the unions would free about 5 million government workers, teachers, police and firefighters, and others in 22 states from being forced to pay "fair share" fees — a potentially staggering blow to public employee unions.

The challengers' battles against the Service Employees International Union, the National Education Association, the American Federation of Teachers and the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Workers are based on disagreements with the political and policy priorities of the national leadership.

“This is not my father’s or my grandfather’s union," says Harris, recalling the Amalgamated Meat Cutters to which they belonged. “This is a money-making scheme. It is a way to advance political agendas.”

Union leaders see the opposite — a power grab by what they call corporate billionaires and right-wing special interests to cripple the unions standing in their way.

"It is a defunding strategy," Randi Weingarten, president of the American Federation of Teachers, said at a press conference with other union leaders Wednesday. "They want the economy to be further rigged in their favor."

My father was born in the twenties, suffered under the depression. He fought in WW2 He was a union man, through and trough. I wonder WHO is opposed to unions NOW? Because if they are, they need to explain themselves...

It's to numerous to explain to you, no offense but if your father was born in the 1920s you must be 95 years old today and don't have a clue.

Actually my father was born in 1920 and I won't be 95 for three more decades. You don't have a math.

Your dad had you when he was an old man at 35 years old? (Yes that was old back then)


How many siblings do you have?

 

[initforme]

The thing is I don't trust unions anymore and employers are not trustworthy. I guess the only way for a worker to get one up on their employer is to be in demand and be happily willing to leave their current employer when most needed....for a higher paying job. Loyalty to an employer is the sign today of a bad ignorant employee. In today's world you owe your employer no respect honor nor loyalty....only a good days work.

 

[Anathema]

.... Fuck the filthy greedy unions.

Then these people had better be ready to see their pay, benefits and working conditions deteriorate overnight.

 

[Flash]

Dem's are already coming up with schemes to get around the SCOTUS ruling should they lose, typical of lawless lowlife scum.

Without the greedy unions giving them so much campaign money and without the Illegals voting for them the Democrats would have a hard time getting 20% of the vote, wouldn't they?

I like you flash, you hate public Unions as much as I do ..

Why? The Democrats have screwed unions over for so long they are just as much despised as the Republicans.

When Trump was elected that was an indication that the rank and file blue collar (potentially union) workers were starting to understand that the Democrats have nothing for them.

Now if we could just get the Blacks to understand the same thing thing then the Democrat Party would be hard put to ever get more than 20% of the votes.

No. Way before that. In fact, in Ohio unions were backing their own candidates.

If it wasn't for the fact that the unions strongly supported that nitwit Obama I would say it went back to Reagan.

 

[Flash]

.... Fuck the filthy greedy unions.

Then these people had better be ready to see their pay, benefits and working conditions deteriorate overnight.

Union workers benefit in a strong economy. All Americans do. They will never get that from the socialistic Democrats. Left economics always results in a dismal economy. The union workers supported that shithead Obama and all they got for it was increased poverty , decreased family income, tremendous debt for their children, increased income disparity and dismal economic growth. On top of that the high paying jobs went overseas.

The Democrats have become masters at promising the greedy union workers the moon and the stars and when in power they can sometimes use taxpayer's money to deliver like what Obama did with the UAW but most of the time nothing is delivered.

 

[Disir]

Without the greedy unions giving them so much campaign money and without the Illegals voting for them the Democrats would have a hard time getting 20% of the vote, wouldn't they?

I like you flash, you hate public Unions as much as I do ..

Why? The Democrats have screwed unions over for so long they are just as much despised as the Republicans.

When Trump was elected that was an indication that the rank and file blue collar (potentially union) workers were starting to understand that the Democrats have nothing for them.

Now if we could just get the Blacks to understand the same thing thing then the Democrat Party would be hard put to ever get more than 20% of the votes.

No. Way before that. In fact, in Ohio unions were backing their own candidates.

If it wasn't for the fact that the unions strongly supported that nitwit Obama I would say it went back to Reagan.

I'm sorry. You are mistaken. Obama screwed unions. Were you not aware?

 

[Disir]

.... Fuck the filthy greedy unions.

Then these people had better be ready to see their pay, benefits and working conditions deteriorate overnight.

Union workers benefit in a strong economy. They will never get that from the socialistic Democrats. Left economics always results in a dismal economy. The union workers supported that shithead Obama and all they got for it was increased poverty , decreased family income, tremendous debt for their children, increased income disparity and dismal economic growth. On top of that the high paying jobs went overseas.

The Democrats have become masters at promising the greedy union workers the moon and the stars and when in power they can sometimes use taxpayer's money to deliver like what Obama did with the UAW but most of the time nothing is delivered.

Greedy workers?

 

[Flash]

I like you flash, you hate public Unions as much as I do ..

Why? The Democrats have screwed unions over for so long they are just as much despised as the Republicans.

When Trump was elected that was an indication that the rank and file blue collar (potentially union) workers were starting to understand that the Democrats have nothing for them.

Now if we could just get the Blacks to understand the same thing thing then the Democrat Party would be hard put to ever get more than 20% of the votes.

No. Way before that. In fact, in Ohio unions were backing their own candidates.

If it wasn't for the fact that the unions strongly supported that nitwit Obama I would say it went back to Reagan.

I'm sorry. You are mistaken. Obama screwed unions. Were you not aware?

See my post above. I think you are confused about what I am saying. Either that or I am not conveying it right. In that case my bad.

 

[Flash]

.... Fuck the filthy greedy unions.

Then these people had better be ready to see their pay, benefits and working conditions deteriorate overnight.

Union workers benefit in a strong economy. They will never get that from the socialistic Democrats. Left economics always results in a dismal economy. The union workers supported that shithead Obama and all they got for it was increased poverty , decreased family income, tremendous debt for their children, increased income disparity and dismal economic growth. On top of that the high paying jobs went overseas.

The Democrats have become masters at promising the greedy union workers the moon and the stars and when in power they can sometimes use taxpayer's money to deliver like what Obama did with the UAW but most of the time nothing is delivered.

Greedy workers?

I am a retired Divisional Engineering Director for an Aerospace company. I have had many union workers. At my last assignment there were 191 of the them in my division.

Yes, I would characterize them as being greedy. I could give you several examples if you would like.

 

[Anathema]

Yes, I would characterize them as being greedy. I could give you several examples if you would like.

As the Steward for a Unionized Engineering group at a private gas/electric utility company, I can give you just as many examples of the way a company seeks to deny Union workers (and management employees) their just due to increase profits.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Ah, "anti-union challengers" is it?

Like these guys?

That's the 1908 Democrat convention..


Am I right?

Nope. Although there is a poster here, not to mantion any names but if we did it would be Geaux4it who posted that and claimed it was a 1924 Democratic convention. It's actually a funeral march for a slain policeman in Wisconsin from December of that year. Seems there was bootlegging afoot, and the Klan of course was always about Prohibition in addition to the anti-union stuff.

Klan didn't exist in 1908 anyway.

The Klan was founded in 1865.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Why didn't anyone think it was significant besides me?


Public sector unions are finished..


Anti-union challengers are on the verge of victory at Supreme Court


Anti-union challengers are on the verge of victory at Supreme Court


WASHINGTON — Dianne Knox describes herself as "a child of the '60s." Pam Harris grew up a butcher's daughter in a proud union household. Rebecca Friedrichs was secretary of her local teachers' union. Mark Janus supports the rights of workers to organize.


A 5-4 decision against the unions would free about 5 million government workers, teachers, police and firefighters, and others in 22 states from being forced to pay "fair share" fees — a potentially staggering blow to public employee unions.

The challengers' battles against the Service Employees International Union, the National Education Association, the American Federation of Teachers and the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Workers are based on disagreements with the political and policy priorities of the national leadership.

“This is not my father’s or my grandfather’s union," says Harris, recalling the Amalgamated Meat Cutters to which they belonged. “This is a money-making scheme. It is a way to advance political agendas.”

Union leaders see the opposite — a power grab by what they call corporate billionaires and right-wing special interests to cripple the unions standing in their way.

"It is a defunding strategy," Randi Weingarten, president of the American Federation of Teachers, said at a press conference with other union leaders Wednesday. "They want the economy to be further rigged in their favor."

My father was born in the twenties, suffered under the depression. He fought in WW2. He was a union man, through and through. I wonder WHO is opposed to unions NOW? Because if they are, they need to explain themselves...

Pretty sure that was covered in the beginning of this thread.
And I for one agree. Forcing people to pay union dues to support the dem party is wrong.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Why didn't anyone think it was significant besides me?


Public sector unions are finished..


Anti-union challengers are on the verge of victory at Supreme Court


Anti-union challengers are on the verge of victory at Supreme Court


WASHINGTON — Dianne Knox describes herself as "a child of the '60s." Pam Harris grew up a butcher's daughter in a proud union household. Rebecca Friedrichs was secretary of her local teachers' union. Mark Janus supports the rights of workers to organize.


A 5-4 decision against the unions would free about 5 million government workers, teachers, police and firefighters, and others in 22 states from being forced to pay "fair share" fees — a potentially staggering blow to public employee unions.

The challengers' battles against the Service Employees International Union, the National Education Association, the American Federation of Teachers and the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Workers are based on disagreements with the political and policy priorities of the national leadership.

“This is not my father’s or my grandfather’s union," says Harris, recalling the Amalgamated Meat Cutters to which they belonged. “This is a money-making scheme. It is a way to advance political agendas.”

Union leaders see the opposite — a power grab by what they call corporate billionaires and right-wing special interests to cripple the unions standing in their way.

"It is a defunding strategy," Randi Weingarten, president of the American Federation of Teachers, said at a press conference with other union leaders Wednesday. "They want the economy to be further rigged in their favor."

My father was born in the twenties, suffered under the depression. He fought in WW2. He was a union man, through and through. I wonder WHO is opposed to unions NOW? Because if they are, they need to explain themselves...

Pretty sure that was covered in the beginning of this thread.
And I for one agree. Forcing people to pay union dues to support the dem party is wrong.

I am on the bubble here, if unions ultimately die, if democrats racism will be gone soon..


Who do we argue with?

 

[Anathema]

Forcing people to pay union dues to support the dem party is wrong.

What about forcing people to pay union dues to support the work of the union itself? Is thst too much for you as well?

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Forcing people to pay union dues to support the dem party is wrong.

What about forcing people to pay union dues to support the work of the union itself? Is thst too much for you as well?

I see you ignored the part about being forced to support a party you may not like.

 

[Anathema]

I see you ignored the part about being forced to support a party you may not like.

I see you avoided the more important question.

My union supports Leftist candidates exclusively. I'm a Conservative. I focus my attention far more on what my dues help the union do to improve my work experience thsn what they spend on politics.

 

[whitehall]

Unionized factories did good things for the Country way back when conditions were horrific but those days are over. Municipal contracts can break state and local governments with outrageous demands and they often do.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

I see you ignored the part about being forced to support a party you may not like.

I see you avoided the more important question.

My union supports Leftist candidates exclusively. I'm a Conservative. I focus my attention far more on what my dues help the union do to improve my work experience thsn what they spend on politics.

I've never needed a union,I did my own negotiating.
I've always had insurance,401K and top pay in my field and I got there through hard work.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Unions serve no purpose now days other than being part of a political machine

 

[Thinker101]

Why didn't anyone think it was significant besides me?


Public sector unions are finished..


Anti-union challengers are on the verge of victory at Supreme Court


Anti-union challengers are on the verge of victory at Supreme Court


WASHINGTON — Dianne Knox describes herself as "a child of the '60s." Pam Harris grew up a butcher's daughter in a proud union household. Rebecca Friedrichs was secretary of her local teachers' union. Mark Janus supports the rights of workers to organize.


A 5-4 decision against the unions would free about 5 million government workers, teachers, police and firefighters, and others in 22 states from being forced to pay "fair share" fees — a potentially staggering blow to public employee unions.

The challengers' battles against the Service Employees International Union, the National Education Association, the American Federation of Teachers and the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Workers are based on disagreements with the political and policy priorities of the national leadership.

“This is not my father’s or my grandfather’s union," says Harris, recalling the Amalgamated Meat Cutters to which they belonged. “This is a money-making scheme. It is a way to advance political agendas.”

Union leaders see the opposite — a power grab by what they call corporate billionaires and right-wing special interests to cripple the unions standing in their way.

"It is a defunding strategy," Randi Weingarten, president of the American Federation of Teachers, said at a press conference with other union leaders Wednesday. "They want the economy to be further rigged in their favor."

For Christ sake, send em to California when they're done.