I used to be a Liberal

[Pete7469]

I grew up in the Bronx, went to public schools, started at Queens College, was taught McCarthy started a "Red Scare" and that FDR was a God, or maybe more powerful than a God because he was a "Progressive". I learned that government was pure and holy and the only organization worth supporting.

When I finally graduated, I got my first job as an accountant in the Commodity Department of E.F. Hutton. I made, well I forget, but it wasn't nothing. The work was not fun for me (this was before personal computers). I had to reconcile the accounts of the Arabs who were working with the Hunt Brothers to try to corner the silver market. They would move funds from their stock account to their commodity account and every night I had to make sure the transfers balanced.

I got my first paycheck 2 weeks later and I was shocked when I saw that I netted about 2/3 of my gross pay.

I don't remember the government doing 1/3 of the work and I paid the fare for 6 train I took to work so I did help to build that.

I remember that day well, the day I received my first paycheck because that was the day I rejected Liberalism.

I was cured in 1993 after reading "The way things ought to be".

I was so convinced he was full of shit I spent afternoons at the library trying to prove it.

Turned out almost everything I thought was a fact, was a lie. The authoritarian assholes who I was sure were oppressing me were the people who didn't want government on people's necks. The people I thought were getting away without "paying their fair share" were paying not only my share, but most of the country's. The people who chanted "fair share" turned out to be filthy rich sociopaths like Ted Kennedy who kept his inherited wealth out of government hands.

Liberalism is founded on failed "progressive" philosophies, and backed up by the most enormous fetid pile of steaming bullshit on earth.

 

[Wyatt earp]

I grew up in the Bronx, went to public schools, started at Queens College, was taught McCarthy started a "Red Scare" and that FDR was a God, or maybe more powerful than a God because he was a "Progressive". I learned that government was pure and holy and the only organization worth supporting.

When I finally graduated, I got my first job as an accountant in the Commodity Department of E.F. Hutton. I made, well I forget, but it wasn't nothing. The work was not fun for me (this was before personal computers). I had to reconcile the accounts of the Arabs who were working with the Hunt Brothers to try to corner the silver market. They would move funds from their stock account to their commodity account and every night I had to make sure the transfers balanced.

I got my first paycheck 2 weeks later and I was shocked when I saw that I netted about 2/3 of my gross pay.

I don't remember the government doing 1/3 of the work and I paid the fare for 6 train I took to work so I did help to build that.

I remember that day well, the day I received my first paycheck because that was the day I rejected Liberalism.

We all believed in Santa Claus, Easter Bunny, Unicorns and fairy tales at one time, Some of us grew up.

 

[Pete7469]

And in all the years you've been working, not a single one of your conservative heroes have ever done anything to relieve you of your oppressive tax burden now have they.

That's because they've had to "compromise" with the sort of criminally insane authortarian sociopaths that brainless, bed wetting drones like you elected into office.

 

[Pogo]

I grew up in the Bronx, went to public schools, started at Queens College, was taught McCarthy started a "Red Scare" and that FDR was a God, or maybe more powerful than a God because he was a "Progressive". I learned that government was pure and holy and the only organization worth supporting.

When I finally graduated, I got my first job as an accountant in the Commodity Department of E.F. Hutton. I made, well I forget, but it wasn't nothing. The work was not fun for me (this was before personal computers). I had to reconcile the accounts of the Arabs who were working with the Hunt Brothers to try to corner the silver market. They would move funds from their stock account to their commodity account and every night I had to make sure the transfers balanced.

I got my first paycheck 2 weeks later and I was shocked when I saw that I netted about 2/3 of my gross pay.

I don't remember the government doing 1/3 of the work and I paid the fare for 6 train I took to work so I did help to build that.

I remember that day well, the day I received my first paycheck because that was the day I rejected Liberalism.

I was cured in 1993 after reading "The way things ought to be".

I was so convinced he was full of shit I spent afternoons at the library trying to prove it.

Turned out almost everything I thought was a fact, was a lie. The authoritarian assholes who I was sure were oppressing me were the people who didn't want government on people's necks. The people I thought were getting away without "paying their fair share" were paying not only my share, but most of the country's. The people who chanted "fair share" turned out to be filthy rich sociopaths like Ted Kennedy who kept his inherited wealth out of government hands.

Liberalism is founded on failed "progressive" philosophies, and backed up by the most enormous fetid pile of steaming bullshit on earth.

This post ^^ sure is...

 

[Pete7469]

And what day did you reject the idea of avoiding personal embarrassment by screening the fake quotes out of your signature?

And what does any part of the OP have to do with being a Liberal?

Miss your coffee this morning?

Putin is to the right of Obama both economically and on basic human freedoms.

no, he is not
they are, basically, the same - grew up on THE SAME ideology

Yeah, but Putin has a pair, and didn't get married to the first booger bear that came along.

 

[Ernie S.]

Back in May of '73, I had been married for 2 years and had a 10 month old son. I got laid off at my job and the market pretty much sucked.
I applied for unemployment, but in those days, without computers, it took 5 weeks to start receiving benefits.
So, after 5 weeks, I had gone through all my savings and was putting in 3 or 4 applications every day. Gas to get to interviews alone was killing me.
The day comes that I can collect 4 weeks of unemployment and pay my rent, buy groceries, fill the gas tank and pay the electric bill. I show up at the appointed hour and was told they had lost my records and it would be another month before I could expect to see any money.
I remember going on an interview the next morning with 58 cents in my pocket. After hearing "We'll be in touch." for the umteenth time, I drove to City Welfare.
I waited for an hour or so and finally got to see a case worker. I showed her the papers I had from unemployment, turned out my pockets and told her I needed food for my son.
You have to picture this room. It was maybe 75 x 200 feet with maybe 100 desks with people sitting pleading with case workers.
Directly behind me, there was a woman arguing loudly with her case worker. She said, "I gots to have moe money cause I gots to buy my son a 10 speed."
I'm thinking "Hell! I gots to buy MY son food."
After maybe 20 minutes of answering idiotic questions that frequently needed to be repeated because of the loud conversation behind me, my case worker gave me an application for food stamps and said she could cut me a check on the spot.
She went to the end of the room, wrote something in a big ledger and cut a check. After disappearing into an office for a few seconds, she returned and proudly handed me my welfare check for $12.50.
THAT is the day I became a Conservative.

I did manage to land a job a couple weeks later and by the time my food stamps were issued, I no longer qualified.

Funny thing is that when I went back to unemployment to finally get my checks, they already knew I had found a job. Why did it take 9 weeks to figure out I was unemployed and 2 weeks to learn I had a job?

 

[g5000]

I grew up in the Bronx, went to public schools, started at Queens College, was taught McCarthy started a "Red Scare" and that FDR was a God, or maybe more powerful than a God because he was a "Progressive". I learned that government was pure and holy and the only organization worth supporting.

When I finally graduated, I got my first job as an accountant in the Commodity Department of E.F. Hutton. I made, well I forget, but it wasn't nothing. The work was not fun for me (this was before personal computers). I had to reconcile the accounts of the Arabs who were working with the Hunt Brothers to try to corner the silver market. They would move funds from their stock account to their commodity account and every night I had to make sure the transfers balanced.

I got my first paycheck 2 weeks later and I was shocked when I saw that I netted about 2/3 of my gross pay.

I don't remember the government doing 1/3 of the work and I paid the fare for 6 train I took to work so I did help to build that.

I remember that day well, the day I received my first paycheck because that was the day I rejected Liberalism.

I remember my first paycheck was much smaller than I expected because the labor union took a big bite. If one wanted a job in my town, one had no choice but to join the union and pay dues. And the union was mob controlled.

I've been anti-union ever since. In fact, my very first political speech at the state Capitol was an anti-union speech not long after that.

The mob had some of their thugs follow me around for a while after that. Fun times.

 

[Ernie S.]

I grew up in the Bronx, went to public schools, started at Queens College, was taught McCarthy started a "Red Scare" and that FDR was a God, or maybe more powerful than a God because he was a "Progressive". I learned that government was pure and holy and the only organization worth supporting.

When I finally graduated, I got my first job as an accountant in the Commodity Department of E.F. Hutton. I made, well I forget, but it wasn't nothing. The work was not fun for me (this was before personal computers). I had to reconcile the accounts of the Arabs who were working with the Hunt Brothers to try to corner the silver market. They would move funds from their stock account to their commodity account and every night I had to make sure the transfers balanced.

I got my first paycheck 2 weeks later and I was shocked when I saw that I netted about 2/3 of my gross pay.

I don't remember the government doing 1/3 of the work and I paid the fare for 6 train I took to work so I did help to build that.

I remember that day well, the day I received my first paycheck because that was the day I rejected Liberalism.

I had a similar story. Liberalism was pushed on me throughout school, I mainly supported liberal causes in college it was uncool not too and usually I supposed whatever cause the girl I was banging (or trying to bang supported). I went to school in AZ, I remember this Hispanic girl I was dating brought me to an amnesty rally. At the time I drank the cool-aid, but now I look back I can't believe I was that stupid. I saw a ton of Che shirts, Mexican flags waving, the speakers talked about the racist United States of America (if it's so racist then why are you coming here) and that they needed to take back the country that was stolen from them. I remember a class I thought was going to be fun was the a class on Colonialism, taught by a RADICAL Indian. He started the class saying he wasn't American and would boot anyone out of the class that called him a Native America. He said he had American citizenship, but rejected the country founded on the evils of man! His class was about all the colonialism by whites on everyone brown, black, yellow and green. He stated our role in WWII against Japan was based solely on out jingoist desires in the Pacific. A real nutjob asshole. But I drank the cool-aid of white guilt! He ignored that Japan was an imperial empire at the time. He ignored the Arab caliphate (Crusades). He ignored imperialism of the past if the colonialist weren't white. Again I drank the cool-aid and wrote a horrendous piece of white guilt thesis on American conquest of the US. I ignored so many facts and went on white guilt self-hatred and got an A in the course.

But I digress. I graduated in Dec 2001 (few months after 9/11). When I got out of college, got engaged, found a job in the mortgage industry (keep in mind it was a bad bad job market after 9/11) and managed to save enough to put money down on a home and was able to move into the place 3 months before my marriage. I started to see the lies of the left. Taxes were outrageous, from property to income to gas to utility to everything. I started to see it wasn't the white man who caused the issues of crime and poor education inner cities. I started to see that late term abortion was ton more evil than good. I started to see that socialism and big government was inferior in every way to the free market. I started to see that liberalism wasn't the way.

See most American kids have blinders on. They grow up being taken care of (as they should) and liberalism seems like the way. Once they move on and have to take care of them, liberalism loses it's luster.

Apparently English lessons lost their luster too...

None of that has anything to do with Liberalism, except for abortion-- the idea of leaving women the choice of what to do with their own body. Other than that, you're talking about leftism.

I get that women want the choice of what to do with their body, but I can't help thinking that the baby should have a choice as well.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

And in all the years you've been working, not a single one of your conservative heroes have ever done anything to relieve you of your oppressive tax burden now have they.

You mean besides the Reagan tax cuts, right?

 

[g5000]

I get that women want the choice of what to do with their body, but I can't help thinking that the baby should have a choice as well.

Amen! There is another body involved. Much more involved.

Don't look at the other person involved. The one paying the ultimate price. Can't have that!

Women should be making their choice about their body before the sex act, not after. Half of all abortions are because the woman chose not to use birth control.

Abortion is their birth control.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

I grew up in the Bronx, went to public schools, started at Queens College, was taught McCarthy started a "Red Scare" and that FDR was a God, or maybe more powerful than a God because he was a "Progressive". I learned that government was pure and holy and the only organization worth supporting.

When I finally graduated, I got my first job as an accountant in the Commodity Department of E.F. Hutton. I made, well I forget, but it wasn't nothing. The work was not fun for me (this was before personal computers). I had to reconcile the accounts of the Arabs who were working with the Hunt Brothers to try to corner the silver market. They would move funds from their stock account to their commodity account and every night I had to make sure the transfers balanced.

I got my first paycheck 2 weeks later and I was shocked when I saw that I netted about 2/3 of my gross pay.

I don't remember the government doing 1/3 of the work and I paid the fare for 6 train I took to work so I did help to build that.

I remember that day well, the day I received my first paycheck because that was the day I rejected Liberalism.

I was cured in 1993 after reading "The way things ought to be".

I was so convinced he was full of shit I spent afternoons at the library trying to prove it.

Turned out almost everything I thought was a fact, was a lie. The authoritarian assholes who I was sure were oppressing me were the people who didn't want government on people's necks. The people I thought were getting away without "paying their fair share" were paying not only my share, but most of the country's. The people who chanted "fair share" turned out to be filthy rich sociopaths like Ted Kennedy who kept his inherited wealth out of government hands.

Liberalism is founded on failed "progressive" philosophies, and backed up by the most enormous fetid pile of steaming bullshit on earth.

I was surprised at how much of the Liberal Agenda was an outright lie too.

I'm glad I left them

 

[Pogo]

I grew up in the Bronx, went to public schools, started at Queens College, was taught McCarthy started a "Red Scare" and that FDR was a God, or maybe more powerful than a God because he was a "Progressive". I learned that government was pure and holy and the only organization worth supporting.

When I finally graduated, I got my first job as an accountant in the Commodity Department of E.F. Hutton. I made, well I forget, but it wasn't nothing. The work was not fun for me (this was before personal computers). I had to reconcile the accounts of the Arabs who were working with the Hunt Brothers to try to corner the silver market. They would move funds from their stock account to their commodity account and every night I had to make sure the transfers balanced.

I got my first paycheck 2 weeks later and I was shocked when I saw that I netted about 2/3 of my gross pay.

I don't remember the government doing 1/3 of the work and I paid the fare for 6 train I took to work so I did help to build that.

I remember that day well, the day I received my first paycheck because that was the day I rejected Liberalism.

I was cured in 1993 after reading "The way things ought to be".

I was so convinced he was full of shit I spent afternoons at the library trying to prove it.

Turned out almost everything I thought was a fact, was a lie. The authoritarian assholes who I was sure were oppressing me were the people who didn't want government on people's necks. The people I thought were getting away without "paying their fair share" were paying not only my share, but most of the country's. The people who chanted "fair share" turned out to be filthy rich sociopaths like Ted Kennedy who kept his inherited wealth out of government hands.

Liberalism is founded on failed "progressive" philosophies, and backed up by the most enormous fetid pile of steaming bullshit on earth.

I was surprised at how much of the Liberal Agenda was an outright lie too.

I'm glad I left them

Actually the "Liberal agenda" created this country. But I guess people who run bogus quotes in their sigs wouldn't know that.

 

[Mr Natural]

And in all the years you've been working, not a single one of your conservative heroes have ever done anything to relieve you of your oppressive tax burden now have they.

You mean besides the Reagan tax cuts, right?

You mean the tax cuts that only affected the top earners?

 

[DigitalDrifter]

Most people were liberal when they're young, and most simply grow out of it.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

And in all the years you've been working, not a single one of your conservative heroes have ever done anything to relieve you of your oppressive tax burden now have they.

You mean besides the Reagan tax cuts, right?

You mean the tax cuts that only affected the top earners?

$3,400 makes you a top earner? Really?

http://taxfoundation.org/sites/taxf...l_rate_history_nominal_adjusted-2013_0523.pdf

Progressives don't quiet accurately describe anything about Reagan

 

[CrusaderFrank]

I was cured in 1993 after reading "The way things ought to be".

I was so convinced he was full of shit I spent afternoons at the library trying to prove it.

Turned out almost everything I thought was a fact, was a lie. The authoritarian assholes who I was sure were oppressing me were the people who didn't want government on people's necks. The people I thought were getting away without "paying their fair share" were paying not only my share, but most of the country's. The people who chanted "fair share" turned out to be filthy rich sociopaths like Ted Kennedy who kept his inherited wealth out of government hands.

Liberalism is founded on failed "progressive" philosophies, and backed up by the most enormous fetid pile of steaming bullshit on earth.

I was surprised at how much of the Liberal Agenda was an outright lie too.

I'm glad I left them

Actually the "Liberal agenda" created this country. But I guess people who run bogus quotes in their sigs wouldn't know that.

Liberal Agenda would have meant the Colonists were blowing British troops for free horseshoes

 

[CrusaderFrank]

And what day did you reject the idea of avoiding personal embarrassment by screening the fake quotes out of your signature?

And what does any part of the OP have to do with being a Liberal?

Miss your coffee this morning?

“Any fourth grade history student knows socialism has failed in every country, at every time in history,” said Putin. “President Obama and his fellow Democrats are either idiots or deliberately trying to destroy their own economy.”

Putin: Obama ?Idiot? For Adopting Socialism | PA Pundits - International

Obama: We can do socialism better

 

[Pogo]

And what day did you reject the idea of avoiding personal embarrassment by screening the fake quotes out of your signature?

And what does any part of the OP have to do with being a Liberal?

Miss your coffee this morning?

“Any fourth grade history student knows socialism has failed in every country, at every time in history,” said Putin. “President Obama and his fellow Democrats are either idiots or deliberately trying to destroy their own economy.”

Putin: Obama ?Idiot? For Adopting Socialism | PA Pundits - International

Obama: We can do socialism better

... and right below both these fake quotes, on the same page, it says:

"Read More Satire at Scooter’s Report"

I've told you about this like seven times now. This link was in the first time:
Charleston GOP Head Falls for Putin Hoax

Guess for some it takes a while to sink in.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

And what day did you reject the idea of avoiding personal embarrassment by screening the fake quotes out of your signature?

And what does any part of the OP have to do with being a Liberal?

Miss your coffee this morning?

“Any fourth grade history student knows socialism has failed in every country, at every time in history,” said Putin. “President Obama and his fellow Democrats are either idiots or deliberately trying to destroy their own economy.”

Putin: Obama ?Idiot? For Adopting Socialism | PA Pundits - International

Obama: We can do socialism better

... and right below both these fake quotes, on the same page, it says:

"Read More Satire at Scooter’s Report"

I've told you about this like seven times now. This link was in the first time:
Charleston GOP Head Falls for Putin Hoax

Guess for some it takes a while to sink in.

I linked to the site you fucking moron. I guess Liberals have no sense of humor

 

[g5000]

And in all the years you've been working, not a single one of your conservative heroes have ever done anything to relieve you of your oppressive tax burden now have they.

You mean besides the Reagan tax cuts, right?

You mean the tax cuts that only affected the top earners?

Methinks you have been drinking some fermented piss.

U.S. Federal Individual Income Tax Rates History, 1862-2013

Before Reagan:

After Reagan: