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The "flu" has always affected the young, the old, those with weak immune systems and sometimes others.
Why everyone is so shocked and acting hysterically is beyond comprehension.
So fucking what! It's the flu- it attacks older people, younger people, people with weak immune systems and many others!We have vaccine for the flu every year that is available to the whole population. It may be 18 months before a vaccine is available for coronavirus. Coronavirus has a death rate that is at least 10 times greater than the flu. No vaccine, 10 times deadlier than the flu, hence the national and global shutdown.
Thats only because the incompetent fuckup in the WH claimed it was not a big deal and a hoax.No one was ready for this kind of crisis that will end up touching us all to some degree.
Nope. Wouldn't have mattered who was in the White House, and wouldn't have mattered what they said. Once the dominoes started to fall around the world, our fate was sealed.
The world in 2020 is so mobile, nothing could have stopped this. It would have helped some if we would have tightened up our borders and restricted certain countries from coming here, but this would have only slightly delayed the inevitable.
Nope. Government action matters. Trump failed. Japan has only 1,086 cases. The United States has 32,000+. New York State alone has 17,530 and New York State is five times smaller than Japan in population. This is Trump's mess, the buck stops with him. The only question is how bad things will get. Hopefully New York state reaches a peak soon and then starts to level off.
As I finish writing this, the United States is now at 38,000+ cases and New York State is at 22,000+ cases. Japan still only has 1,086 cases. If New York State were a country, it would have the 6th largest total in the world now.
New York is run by Democrats. Cuomo praised Trump. Cannot have it both ways. Russia has 300 cases. Why aren't you praising Russia?
1. Trump is the President and its his responsibility to protect the country from dangerous crises like this. He failed to act early which is why the United States is stuck in this mess. New York State and more particular New York City is suffering because of the population density there, its unofficial title as capital of the world where so much of the planets travel and trade goes through.
2. I have praised Russia in other threads, but Japan is an ally, democracy, diversified market economy, first world country with a large population, like the United States. It is many similarities to the United States and maintains accurate counts in its medical field. It also is very exposed to China given that China is its largest trading partner. So I thought Japan was the best example with which to compare the United States to show how Donald Trump has failed the country.
I put this in Politics because if I put it in health, few will see it. As well as politics of this virus was clouding my mind in the same way it has clouded all of our minds.
As mentioned before, my son is a Respiratory Care Specialist at one of the nations leading Children's hospitals and my daughter is a Respiratory Therapist at a large metropolitan hospital/trauma center. When I say they are on the front lines of this, I mean they are on the front lines.
Up until Friday, I was not that concerned about getting it, or my wife or the two of them. Like most, I was comfortable in the knowledge that it is primarily a concern for the very old/folks with underlying illness.
That is no longer the case.
This weekend, all over the country hospitals are getting much younger patients that require life saving care - and they have no other illness. And the numbers you are seeing reported are not representative of the actual numbers. It is higher.
Like many, I scoffed at all of these restrictions the government was laying out. 4 states with "stay at home" orders. I thought this was over reacting.
Until I got a call from both my kids. Especially my daughter, upset and for the first time afraid and scared. "It is really bad here Dad, we are getting more and more and they are getting younger".
A 32 year old, who 48 hours earlier was at work, feeling a little funny. Last night he was on life support and fighting for his life. Add more to that. Kids also.
The situation is evolving. And it is changing in not a good way.
Take it serious folks. Don't wait until it effects you or someone you know. Change what you are doing now.
Thank God our government took this more seriously than we did.... I guess they knew more than us.
On a good note. The malaria drug is showing promise. Yesterday a 66 year old at the hospital was in critical condition on a breathing machine. He has received 2 malaria shots, is now off the machine and sitting up and talking. It isn't working for everyone, but it is clearly having positive results on some.
The first sign of the virus is a diminishing ability to use proper grammar.
The first sign of being a dick, is acting like a dick.
So fucking what! It's the flu- it attacks older people, younger people, people with weak immune systems and many others!We have vaccine for the flu every year that is available to the whole population. It may be 18 months before a vaccine is available for coronavirus. Coronavirus has a death rate that is at least 10 times greater than the flu. No vaccine, 10 times deadlier than the flu, hence the national and global shutdown.
I've never had a flu shot- I've had the flu twice in the last 14 years- "I" survived in spite of and apparently to spite the hysterical.
It's the flu- get over it or die. That will not change what it is. It's no reason for mass hysteria- it's barely killed anyoneThis is a pandemic involving a more dangerous pathogen than we normally see with annual flu season.
Thats only because the incompetent fuckup in the WH claimed it was not a big deal and a hoax.
Nope. Wouldn't have mattered who was in the White House, and wouldn't have mattered what they said. Once the dominoes started to fall around the world, our fate was sealed.
The world in 2020 is so mobile, nothing could have stopped this. It would have helped some if we would have tightened up our borders and restricted certain countries from coming here, but this would have only slightly delayed the inevitable.
Nope. Government action matters. Trump failed. Japan has only 1,086 cases. The United States has 32,000+. New York State alone has 17,530 and New York State is five times smaller than Japan in population. This is Trump's mess, the buck stops with him. The only question is how bad things will get. Hopefully New York state reaches a peak soon and then starts to level off.
As I finish writing this, the United States is now at 38,000+ cases and New York State is at 22,000+ cases. Japan still only has 1,086 cases. If New York State were a country, it would have the 6th largest total in the world now.
New York is run by Democrats. Cuomo praised Trump. Cannot have it both ways. Russia has 300 cases. Why aren't you praising Russia?
1. Trump is the President and its his responsibility to protect the country from dangerous crises like this. He failed to act early which is why the United States is stuck in this mess. New York State and more particular New York City is suffering because of the population density there, its unofficial title as capital of the world where so much of the planets travel and trade goes through.
2. I have praised Russia in other threads, but Japan is an ally, democracy, diversified market economy, first world country with a large population, like the United States. It is many similarities to the United States and maintains accurate counts in its medical field. It also is very exposed to China given that China is its largest trading partner. So I thought Japan was the best example with which to compare the United States to show how Donald Trump has failed the country.
#1) I disagree he failed to act.
#2) So is South Korea. The cases in the US % wise are very few and far between.
Nope. Wouldn't have mattered who was in the White House, and wouldn't have mattered what they said. Once the dominoes started to fall around the world, our fate was sealed.
The world in 2020 is so mobile, nothing could have stopped this. It would have helped some if we would have tightened up our borders and restricted certain countries from coming here, but this would have only slightly delayed the inevitable.
Nope. Government action matters. Trump failed. Japan has only 1,086 cases. The United States has 32,000+. New York State alone has 17,530 and New York State is five times smaller than Japan in population. This is Trump's mess, the buck stops with him. The only question is how bad things will get. Hopefully New York state reaches a peak soon and then starts to level off.
As I finish writing this, the United States is now at 38,000+ cases and New York State is at 22,000+ cases. Japan still only has 1,086 cases. If New York State were a country, it would have the 6th largest total in the world now.
New York is run by Democrats. Cuomo praised Trump. Cannot have it both ways. Russia has 300 cases. Why aren't you praising Russia?
1. Trump is the President and its his responsibility to protect the country from dangerous crises like this. He failed to act early which is why the United States is stuck in this mess. New York State and more particular New York City is suffering because of the population density there, its unofficial title as capital of the world where so much of the planets travel and trade goes through.
2. I have praised Russia in other threads, but Japan is an ally, democracy, diversified market economy, first world country with a large population, like the United States. It is many similarities to the United States and maintains accurate counts in its medical field. It also is very exposed to China given that China is its largest trading partner. So I thought Japan was the best example with which to compare the United States to show how Donald Trump has failed the country.
#1) I disagree he failed to act.
#2) So is South Korea. The cases in the US % wise are very few and far between.
1.) He should have shut the international borders back in February. He only shut down direct transport from China. Just shutting down travel from one country does virtually nothing in those globalized market place.
2.) Japan is the better comparison. Japan only has 9 cases per 1 million in population. The United States now has 98 cases per one million in population. The United States had a chance to be Japan. But Trump failed to act!
Are we talking in the potential of millions?Is this thing really that bad.I put this in Politics because if I put it in health, few will see it. As well as politics of this virus was clouding my mind in the same way it has clouded all of our minds.
As mentioned before, my son is a Respiratory Care Specialist at one of the nations leading Children's hospitals and my daughter is a Respiratory Therapist at a large metropolitan hospital/trauma center. When I say they are on the front lines of this, I mean they are on the front lines.
Up until Friday, I was not that concerned about getting it, or my wife or the two of them. Like most, I was comfortable in the knowledge that it is primarily a concern for the very old/folks with underlying illness.
That is no longer the case.
This weekend, all over the country hospitals are getting much younger patients that require life saving care - and they have no other illness. And the numbers you are seeing reported are not representative of the actual numbers. It is higher.
Like many, I scoffed at all of these restrictions the government was laying out. 4 states with "stay at home" orders. I thought this was over reacting.
Until I got a call from both my kids. Especially my daughter, upset and for the first time afraid and scared. "It is really bad here Dad, we are getting more and more and they are getting younger".
A 32 year old, who 48 hours earlier was at work, feeling a little funny. Last night he was on life support and fighting for his life. Add more to that. Kids also.
The situation is evolving. And it is changing in not a good way.
Take it serious folks. Don't wait until it effects you or someone you know. Change what you are doing now.
Thank God our government took this more seriously than we did.... I guess they knew more than us.
On a good note. The malaria drug is showing promise. Yesterday a 66 year old at the hospital was in critical condition on a breathing machine. He has received 2 malaria shots, is now off the machine and sitting up and talking. It isn't working for everyone, but it is clearly having positive results on some.
My significant other works in a hospital lab dealing with this stuff first hand as well. The amount of misinformation out there about Covid-19 is mind boggling.
I guess it depends on your definition of 'bad'.
It's the flu- get over it or die. That will not change what it is. It's no reason for mass hysteria- it's barely killed anyoneThis is a pandemic involving a more dangerous pathogen than we normally see with annual flu season.
The 2009 H1N1 Pandemic: A New Flu Virus Emerges
The (H1N1)pdm09 virus was very different from H1N1 viruses that were circulating at the time of the pandemic. Few young people had any existing immunity (as detected by antibody response) to the (H1N1)pdm09 virus, but nearly one-third of people over 60 years old had antibodies against this virus, likely from exposure to an older H1N1 virus earlier in their lives. Since the (H1N1)pdm09 virus was very different from circulating H1N1 viruses, vaccination with seasonal flu vaccines offered little cross-protection against (H1N1)pdm09 virus infection. While a monovalent (H1N1)pdm09 vaccine was produced, it was not available in large quantities until late November—after the peak of illness during the second wave had come and gone in the United States. From April 12, 2009 to April 10, 2010, CDC estimated there were 60.8 million cases (range: 43.3-89.3 million), 274,304 hospitalizations (range: 195,086-402,719), and 12,469 deaths (range: 8868-18,306) in the United States due to the (H1N1)pdm09 virus.
What's changed? Oh, POTUS- my, my, my Orange Man Bad.
Nope. Government action matters. Trump failed. Japan has only 1,086 cases. The United States has 32,000+. New York State alone has 17,530 and New York State is five times smaller than Japan in population. This is Trump's mess, the buck stops with him. The only question is how bad things will get. Hopefully New York state reaches a peak soon and then starts to level off.
As I finish writing this, the United States is now at 38,000+ cases and New York State is at 22,000+ cases. Japan still only has 1,086 cases. If New York State were a country, it would have the 6th largest total in the world now.
New York is run by Democrats. Cuomo praised Trump. Cannot have it both ways. Russia has 300 cases. Why aren't you praising Russia?
1. Trump is the President and its his responsibility to protect the country from dangerous crises like this. He failed to act early which is why the United States is stuck in this mess. New York State and more particular New York City is suffering because of the population density there, its unofficial title as capital of the world where so much of the planets travel and trade goes through.
2. I have praised Russia in other threads, but Japan is an ally, democracy, diversified market economy, first world country with a large population, like the United States. It is many similarities to the United States and maintains accurate counts in its medical field. It also is very exposed to China given that China is its largest trading partner. So I thought Japan was the best example with which to compare the United States to show how Donald Trump has failed the country.
#1) I disagree he failed to act.
#2) So is South Korea. The cases in the US % wise are very few and far between.
1.) He should have shut the international borders back in February. He only shut down direct transport from China. Just shutting down travel from one country does virtually nothing in those globalized market place.
2.) Japan is the better comparison. Japan only has 9 cases per 1 million in population. The United States now has 98 cases per one million in population. The United States had a chance to be Japan. But Trump failed to act!
#1) He was getting mixed messages. He didn't want to happen in terms what is happening now. Economy in an upheaval, unemployment rising to 20% and kids not in schools. It is easy to be the Monday Morning QB but this was a very difficult decision. He did shut down travel but the virus was already here.
#2) Japan is much smaller than US and it is not all Trump. We are a Republic not an Empire. Trump was vilified and called a racist for closing travel to and from China if you recall.
New York is run by Democrats. Cuomo praised Trump. Cannot have it both ways. Russia has 300 cases. Why aren't you praising Russia?
1. Trump is the President and its his responsibility to protect the country from dangerous crises like this. He failed to act early which is why the United States is stuck in this mess. New York State and more particular New York City is suffering because of the population density there, its unofficial title as capital of the world where so much of the planets travel and trade goes through.
2. I have praised Russia in other threads, but Japan is an ally, democracy, diversified market economy, first world country with a large population, like the United States. It is many similarities to the United States and maintains accurate counts in its medical field. It also is very exposed to China given that China is its largest trading partner. So I thought Japan was the best example with which to compare the United States to show how Donald Trump has failed the country.
#1) I disagree he failed to act.
#2) So is South Korea. The cases in the US % wise are very few and far between.
1.) He should have shut the international borders back in February. He only shut down direct transport from China. Just shutting down travel from one country does virtually nothing in those globalized market place.
2.) Japan is the better comparison. Japan only has 9 cases per 1 million in population. The United States now has 98 cases per one million in population. The United States had a chance to be Japan. But Trump failed to act!
#1) He was getting mixed messages. He didn't want to happen in terms what is happening now. Economy in an upheaval, unemployment rising to 20% and kids not in schools. It is easy to be the Monday Morning QB but this was a very difficult decision. He did shut down travel but the virus was already here.
#2) Japan is much smaller than US and it is not all Trump. We are a Republic not an Empire. Trump was vilified and called a racist for closing travel to and from China if you recall.
#1) Trump is President and when he fails to do the job, you need to let him go.
#2) Japan is 5 times the size of New York State in terms of population, but only has 1,086 cases compared to New York States 22,000+! Massive failure.
Read the link and do your part to stop the hysteria-
1. Trump is the President and its his responsibility to protect the country from dangerous crises like this. He failed to act early which is why the United States is stuck in this mess. New York State and more particular New York City is suffering because of the population density there, its unofficial title as capital of the world where so much of the planets travel and trade goes through.
2. I have praised Russia in other threads, but Japan is an ally, democracy, diversified market economy, first world country with a large population, like the United States. It is many similarities to the United States and maintains accurate counts in its medical field. It also is very exposed to China given that China is its largest trading partner. So I thought Japan was the best example with which to compare the United States to show how Donald Trump has failed the country.
#1) I disagree he failed to act.
#2) So is South Korea. The cases in the US % wise are very few and far between.
1.) He should have shut the international borders back in February. He only shut down direct transport from China. Just shutting down travel from one country does virtually nothing in those globalized market place.
2.) Japan is the better comparison. Japan only has 9 cases per 1 million in population. The United States now has 98 cases per one million in population. The United States had a chance to be Japan. But Trump failed to act!
#1) He was getting mixed messages. He didn't want to happen in terms what is happening now. Economy in an upheaval, unemployment rising to 20% and kids not in schools. It is easy to be the Monday Morning QB but this was a very difficult decision. He did shut down travel but the virus was already here.
#2) Japan is much smaller than US and it is not all Trump. We are a Republic not an Empire. Trump was vilified and called a racist for closing travel to and from China if you recall.
#1) Trump is President and when he fails to do the job, you need to let him go.
#2) Japan is 5 times the size of New York State in terms of population, but only has 1,086 cases compared to New York States 22,000+! Massive failure.
#1) People will decide in November
#2) Ever been to NY...people are literally on top of one another. Not the size but the density is what counts. I am not shocked NY got it so bad.
Stop making excuses for the incompetent fuck up. Thats part of leadership. You use your experts and your judgement. All his experts were telling him the exact same thing early in Jan officially. He decided it was a hoax then isnt even leader enough to accept the responsibility of fucking up.Nope. Government action matters. Trump failed. Japan has only 1,086 cases. The United States has 32,000+. New York State alone has 17,530 and New York State is five times smaller than Japan in population. This is Trump's mess, the buck stops with him. The only question is how bad things will get. Hopefully New York state reaches a peak soon and then starts to level off.
As I finish writing this, the United States is now at 38,000+ cases and New York State is at 22,000+ cases. Japan still only has 1,086 cases. If New York State were a country, it would have the 6th largest total in the world now.
New York is run by Democrats. Cuomo praised Trump. Cannot have it both ways. Russia has 300 cases. Why aren't you praising Russia?
1. Trump is the President and its his responsibility to protect the country from dangerous crises like this. He failed to act early which is why the United States is stuck in this mess. New York State and more particular New York City is suffering because of the population density there, its unofficial title as capital of the world where so much of the planets travel and trade goes through.
2. I have praised Russia in other threads, but Japan is an ally, democracy, diversified market economy, first world country with a large population, like the United States. It is many similarities to the United States and maintains accurate counts in its medical field. It also is very exposed to China given that China is its largest trading partner. So I thought Japan was the best example with which to compare the United States to show how Donald Trump has failed the country.
#1) I disagree he failed to act.
#2) So is South Korea. The cases in the US % wise are very few and far between.
1.) He should have shut the international borders back in February. He only shut down direct transport from China. Just shutting down travel from one country does virtually nothing in those globalized market place.
2.) Japan is the better comparison. Japan only has 9 cases per 1 million in population. The United States now has 98 cases per one million in population. The United States had a chance to be Japan. But Trump failed to act!
#1) He was getting mixed messages. He didn't want to happen in terms what is happening now. Economy in an upheaval, unemployment rising to 20% and kids not in schools. It is easy to be the Monday Morning QB but this was a very difficult decision. He did shut down travel but the virus was already here.
#2) Japan is much smaller than US and it is not all Trump. We are a Republic not an Empire. Trump was vilified and called a racist for closing travel to and from China if you recall.
#1) I disagree he failed to act.
#2) So is South Korea. The cases in the US % wise are very few and far between.
1.) He should have shut the international borders back in February. He only shut down direct transport from China. Just shutting down travel from one country does virtually nothing in those globalized market place.
2.) Japan is the better comparison. Japan only has 9 cases per 1 million in population. The United States now has 98 cases per one million in population. The United States had a chance to be Japan. But Trump failed to act!
#1) He was getting mixed messages. He didn't want to happen in terms what is happening now. Economy in an upheaval, unemployment rising to 20% and kids not in schools. It is easy to be the Monday Morning QB but this was a very difficult decision. He did shut down travel but the virus was already here.
#2) Japan is much smaller than US and it is not all Trump. We are a Republic not an Empire. Trump was vilified and called a racist for closing travel to and from China if you recall.
#1) Trump is President and when he fails to do the job, you need to let him go.
#2) Japan is 5 times the size of New York State in terms of population, but only has 1,086 cases compared to New York States 22,000+! Massive failure.
#1) People will decide in November
#2) Ever been to NY...people are literally on top of one another. Not the size but the density is what counts. I am not shocked NY got it so bad.
Japan has greater population density than New York State. Tokyo is a larger city than New York City.
Then STFU- you read what aligns with your fears- that is dumber than dumb- you'd rather be dumb that knowledgeable is THE problem with this hysteria-I don't need to read the link.
Stop making excuses for the incompetent fuck up. Thats part of leadership. You use your experts and your judgement. All his experts were telling him the exact same thing early in Jan officially. He decided it was a hoax then isnt even leader enough to accept the responsibility of fucking up.New York is run by Democrats. Cuomo praised Trump. Cannot have it both ways. Russia has 300 cases. Why aren't you praising Russia?
1. Trump is the President and its his responsibility to protect the country from dangerous crises like this. He failed to act early which is why the United States is stuck in this mess. New York State and more particular New York City is suffering because of the population density there, its unofficial title as capital of the world where so much of the planets travel and trade goes through.
2. I have praised Russia in other threads, but Japan is an ally, democracy, diversified market economy, first world country with a large population, like the United States. It is many similarities to the United States and maintains accurate counts in its medical field. It also is very exposed to China given that China is its largest trading partner. So I thought Japan was the best example with which to compare the United States to show how Donald Trump has failed the country.
#1) I disagree he failed to act.
#2) So is South Korea. The cases in the US % wise are very few and far between.
1.) He should have shut the international borders back in February. He only shut down direct transport from China. Just shutting down travel from one country does virtually nothing in those globalized market place.
2.) Japan is the better comparison. Japan only has 9 cases per 1 million in population. The United States now has 98 cases per one million in population. The United States had a chance to be Japan. But Trump failed to act!
#1) He was getting mixed messages. He didn't want to happen in terms what is happening now. Economy in an upheaval, unemployment rising to 20% and kids not in schools. It is easy to be the Monday Morning QB but this was a very difficult decision. He did shut down travel but the virus was already here.
#2) Japan is much smaller than US and it is not all Trump. We are a Republic not an Empire. Trump was vilified and called a racist for closing travel to and from China if you recall.
I'm assuming with your statement #2 you've never been to Japan? I've been to both cities and Tokyo is way more crowded than NY.1. Trump is the President and its his responsibility to protect the country from dangerous crises like this. He failed to act early which is why the United States is stuck in this mess. New York State and more particular New York City is suffering because of the population density there, its unofficial title as capital of the world where so much of the planets travel and trade goes through.
2. I have praised Russia in other threads, but Japan is an ally, democracy, diversified market economy, first world country with a large population, like the United States. It is many similarities to the United States and maintains accurate counts in its medical field. It also is very exposed to China given that China is its largest trading partner. So I thought Japan was the best example with which to compare the United States to show how Donald Trump has failed the country.
#1) I disagree he failed to act.
#2) So is South Korea. The cases in the US % wise are very few and far between.
1.) He should have shut the international borders back in February. He only shut down direct transport from China. Just shutting down travel from one country does virtually nothing in those globalized market place.
2.) Japan is the better comparison. Japan only has 9 cases per 1 million in population. The United States now has 98 cases per one million in population. The United States had a chance to be Japan. But Trump failed to act!
#1) He was getting mixed messages. He didn't want to happen in terms what is happening now. Economy in an upheaval, unemployment rising to 20% and kids not in schools. It is easy to be the Monday Morning QB but this was a very difficult decision. He did shut down travel but the virus was already here.
#2) Japan is much smaller than US and it is not all Trump. We are a Republic not an Empire. Trump was vilified and called a racist for closing travel to and from China if you recall.
#1) Trump is President and when he fails to do the job, you need to let him go.
#2) Japan is 5 times the size of New York State in terms of population, but only has 1,086 cases compared to New York States 22,000+! Massive failure.
#1) People will decide in November
#2) Ever been to NY...people are literally on top of one another. Not the size but the density is what counts. I am not shocked NY got it so bad.
