I wonder how this will impact other websites?

[Quantum Windbag]

Doesn't surprise me. There is free speech, and then there is so called free speech that just goes way too far. The people who belong to that site are scraping the bottom of the barrel.

The more offensive speech is, the more protection it deserves.

 

[Capstone]

I've never so much as looked at Stormfront's website. The concept of neo-nazism is just too cartoonish to be taken seriously. No matter the true intentions of the site's creator(s), it's become an asset for the lettered agencies that collectively need to keep alive the specters of boogeymen in the public imagination, in order to justify the draconian measures of the post-9/11 era.

This much is certain: anyone and everyone dumb enough to buy into any form of racial supremacy (yes, including religion-based ideologies) ...need to be kept under close surveillance.

 

[Billo_Really]

Almost 100 Hate Crime Killings Linked To One Website: Report

A white supremacist site has blood on its hands, according to a new report.

Stormfront.org is linked to close to 100 killings in the last five years, the Southern Poverty Law Center found.

From the Guardian:

The White Nationalist web forum Stormfront.org says it promotes values of “the embattled white minority,” and its users include Anders Behring Breivik, who killed 77 people in a 2011 massacre in Norway, and Wade Michael Page, who shot and killed six people at a Sikh temple in Wisconsin in 2012.
The SPLC said ten murderers had links to Stormfront.

"It’s pretty clear that websites like Stormfront are breeding grounds for people who are just enraged at their situation, it’s there that people find the reasons their lives aren’t as they had hoped and Stormfront helps them find the enemy that is standing in their way – whether it be Jews, African Americans, immigrants and so on,” Heidi Beirich, report author and a director at the SPLC’s Intelligence Project told the Guardian. “Unfortunately it’s not very surprising that people who live in this kind of stew of violent racism eventually pick up a gun and do something about it at some point.”

NBC News reports that Frazier Glenn Cross, the man accused of killing three people at two Jewish community sites in suburban Kansas City on April 13, was barred from Stormfront because of disagreements with the site's founder.

The report calls Stormfront the "murder capital of the Internet." SPLC's research shows the site typically only gets about 1,800 visits a day, half of which are people outside the U.S.

But the site has a core group of very active users, and Stormfront's "bias-related murder rate" accelerated significantly after Barack Obama became president, the report found.

Earlier this week, CNN reported that, in America, people who follow far-right wing ideologies have been responsible for more killings than Islamic extremists since September 11.

CNN notes that, according to a count by the New America Foundation, "right wing extremists have killed 34 people in the United States for political reasons since 9/11" whereas "terrorists motivated by al Qaeda's ideology have killed 21 people in the United States since 9/11."

You know, I went over to that website once and it only took one post to figure out they're a bunch of pussy's.

I logged in as "Rob Whitey" and only laid down one post.

Then I found out the first 50 posts are monitored and reviewed by a mod, before they are posted to the forum. Which made me think, "Here you fuckers talk like you're a bunch of tough guys, yet you're too pussy to handle what someone says, without a mod reviewing it for content."

That was it for me.

 

[Katzndogz]

Almost 100 Hate Crime Killings Linked To One Website: Report

A white supremacist site has blood on its hands, according to a new report.

Stormfront.org is linked to close to 100 killings in the last five years, the Southern Poverty Law Center found.

From the Guardian:

The White Nationalist web forum Stormfront.org says it promotes values of “the embattled white minority,” and its users include Anders Behring Breivik, who killed 77 people in a 2011 massacre in Norway, and Wade Michael Page, who shot and killed six people at a Sikh temple in Wisconsin in 2012.
The SPLC said ten murderers had links to Stormfront.

"It’s pretty clear that websites like Stormfront are breeding grounds for people who are just enraged at their situation, it’s there that people find the reasons their lives aren’t as they had hoped and Stormfront helps them find the enemy that is standing in their way – whether it be Jews, African Americans, immigrants and so on,” Heidi Beirich, report author and a director at the SPLC’s Intelligence Project told the Guardian. “Unfortunately it’s not very surprising that people who live in this kind of stew of violent racism eventually pick up a gun and do something about it at some point.”

NBC News reports that Frazier Glenn Cross, the man accused of killing three people at two Jewish community sites in suburban Kansas City on April 13, was barred from Stormfront because of disagreements with the site's founder.

The report calls Stormfront the "murder capital of the Internet." SPLC's research shows the site typically only gets about 1,800 visits a day, half of which are people outside the U.S.

But the site has a core group of very active users, and Stormfront's "bias-related murder rate" accelerated significantly after Barack Obama became president, the report found.

Earlier this week, CNN reported that, in America, people who follow far-right wing ideologies have been responsible for more killings than Islamic extremists since September 11.

CNN notes that, according to a count by the New America Foundation, "right wing extremists have killed 34 people in the United States for political reasons since 9/11" whereas "terrorists motivated by al Qaeda's ideology have killed 21 people in the United States since 9/11."

Really? Only 21 deaths by al quaeda ideology?

Does that include the 17 by John Mohammed the Beltway Sniper, or the 13 killed by Nidal Hassan? Does that include honor killings? There have been six high profile honor killings in the US since 9/11. Not including Shaima Alawadi of San Diego whose death was initially blamed on right wing extremists.

 

[Swagger]

I've got an account on Stormfront. Let me assure you now that it's mostly populated by the bitter and downtrodden. How anyone could be inspired to commit murder by reading the garbage that's posted on there is beyond me.

 

[DigitalDrifter]

Never been to Stormfront, certainly hear about it all the time. The vast majority of Americans both con and lib do not subscribe to their violence.

Having said that, they probably have reason to be upset about such things as illegal immigration.
I haven't seen their position on that, but I'm guessing like me they want it stopped.
Unlike me however, some of them are probably openly calling for violence.

By the way, it's interesting to note that according to the article, half of their daily board traffic is from outside the U.S.

 

[DigitalDrifter]

Almost 100 Hate Crime Killings Linked To One Website: Report

A white supremacist site has blood on its hands, according to a new report.

Stormfront.org is linked to close to 100 killings in the last five years, the Southern Poverty Law Center found.

From the Guardian:

The White Nationalist web forum Stormfront.org says it promotes values of “the embattled white minority,” and its users include Anders Behring Breivik, who killed 77 people in a 2011 massacre in Norway, and Wade Michael Page, who shot and killed six people at a Sikh temple in Wisconsin in 2012.
The SPLC said ten murderers had links to Stormfront.



NBC News reports that Frazier Glenn Cross, the man accused of killing three people at two Jewish community sites in suburban Kansas City on April 13, was barred from Stormfront because of disagreements with the site's founder.

The report calls Stormfront the "murder capital of the Internet." SPLC's research shows the site typically only gets about 1,800 visits a day, half of which are people outside the U.S.

But the site has a core group of very active users, and Stormfront's "bias-related murder rate" accelerated significantly after Barack Obama became president, the report found.

Earlier this week, CNN reported that, in America, people who follow far-right wing ideologies have been responsible for more killings than Islamic extremists since September 11.

CNN notes that, according to a count by the New America Foundation, "right wing extremists have killed 34 people in the United States for political reasons since 9/11" whereas "terrorists motivated by al Qaeda's ideology have killed 21 people in the United States since 9/11."

You know, I went over to that website once and it only took one post to figure out they're a bunch of pussy's.

I logged in as "Rob Whitey" and only laid down one post.

Then I found out the first 50 posts are monitored and reviewed by a mod, before they are posted to the forum. Which made me think, "Here you fuckers talk like you're a bunch of tough guys, yet you're too pussy to handle what someone says, without a mod reviewing it for content."

That was it for me.

I've been on forums that do that. Randi Rhodes old message board was one that did the same thing. When you first register, you're put on "moderator review" until they are convinced you're not just a spammer.
My guess Stormfront is the kind of place that get's a lot of people faking who they are, or people who try and flood the board with attacks. They probably have to review or it would be board war.

 

[Nutz]

Almost 100 Hate Crime Killings Linked To One Website: Report

You know, I went over to that website once and it only took one post to figure out they're a bunch of pussy's.

I logged in as "Rob Whitey" and only laid down one post.

Then I found out the first 50 posts are monitored and reviewed by a mod, before they are posted to the forum. Which made me think, "Here you fuckers talk like you're a bunch of tough guys, yet you're too pussy to handle what someone says, without a mod reviewing it for content."

That was it for me.

I've been on forums that do that. Randi Rhodes old message board was one that did the same thing. When you first register, you're put on "moderator review" until they are convinced you're not just a spammer.
My guess Stormfront is the kind of place that get's a lot of people faking who they are, or people who try and flood the board with attacks. They probably have to review or it would be board war.

You mean, so there is no dissenting opinion.

 

[DigitalDrifter]

You know, I went over to that website once and it only took one post to figure out they're a bunch of pussy's.

I logged in as "Rob Whitey" and only laid down one post.

Then I found out the first 50 posts are monitored and reviewed by a mod, before they are posted to the forum. Which made me think, "Here you fuckers talk like you're a bunch of tough guys, yet you're too pussy to handle what someone says, without a mod reviewing it for content."

That was it for me.

I've been on forums that do that. Randi Rhodes old message board was one that did the same thing. When you first register, you're put on "moderator review" until they are convinced you're not just a spammer.
My guess Stormfront is the kind of place that get's a lot of people faking who they are, or people who try and flood the board with attacks. They probably have to review or it would be board war.

You mean, so there is no dissenting opinion.

There were definitely a lot of pussies on the Randi Rhodes message board.

 

[DriftingSand]

It's not about censorship...sites like stormfront are for like minded people. Let them spew their nonsense and hate...they have every right to voice their opinion and rape the minds of the impressionable. If these people are more inclined to incite violence and if members of this group are more than likely to be mass murderers and criminals, then I see no issue with monitoring their speech and actions. If stop and frisk is acceptable for an entire race, then the scrutiny of people who frequent hate sites is the least law enforcement officials should do to protect the innocent.

As for how it relates to the pussy posters on USMB...I think it is the choice of USMB and its members as to how they want to be perceived. At what point does the non-stop pussy posts turn USMB into a hate site? It's sort of like the transvestites who took over one man's bar. He could have stopped it before it happened, but instead he was a dumb ass and let them take over.

I see your point but there's a difference between an owner of a forum determining what can or can't be discussed and a government that suppresses free speech that it doesn't like.

Again, if the following sites are allowed to meet in public and voice their anti-American ideologies or racial hatred then Stormfront has the same right (whether we like their ideology or not):

National Council of La Raza | Take Action (La Raza or "the race") (Hispanic hate group)
NBPP (New Black Panters) (Black hate group)
NOI.org - The Nation of Islam Official Website (Nation of Islam) (Black Muslim hate group)
Anti-Defamation League: Leaders Fighting Anti-Semitism and Hate | ADL (Anti-Defamation League) (Jewish hate group)
Suspended Domain (Jewish Defense League) Jewish hate group)
Aryan Nations World Headquarters (Aryan Nations) (White hate group)

We could eliminate these extreme groups but then we would be left with a new set of extreme groups. We could simply keep eliminating all speech whatsoever until everyone is forced to agree with everything the government tells us. At that point we have a scenario not far from the one seen in the movie 1984. Is that really what we want?

 

[guno]

1 at SPLC and thousands at stormfront

you got a point whiteball?

The Jewish Center shooting in Kansas Sunday may have been preventable, if a 2009 Department of Homeland Security report on right wing extremism had been heeded.
Was Jewish Center Shooting Preventable? DHS Report Warned Of Extremist Threat


The DHS report from 2009
http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/041609_extremism.pdf

 

[Nutz]

It's not about censorship...sites like stormfront are for like minded people. Let them spew their nonsense and hate...they have every right to voice their opinion and rape the minds of the impressionable. If these people are more inclined to incite violence and if members of this group are more than likely to be mass murderers and criminals, then I see no issue with monitoring their speech and actions. If stop and frisk is acceptable for an entire race, then the scrutiny of people who frequent hate sites is the least law enforcement officials should do to protect the innocent.

As for how it relates to the pussy posters on USMB...I think it is the choice of USMB and its members as to how they want to be perceived. At what point does the non-stop pussy posts turn USMB into a hate site? It's sort of like the transvestites who took over one man's bar. He could have stopped it before it happened, but instead he was a dumb ass and let them take over.

I see your point but there's a difference between an owner of a forum determining what can or can't be discussed and a government that suppresses free speech that it doesn't like.

Again, if the following sites are allowed to meet in public and voice their anti-American ideologies or racial hatred then Stormfront has the same right (whether we like their ideology or not):

National Council of La Raza | Take Action (La Raza or "the race") (Hispanic hate group)
NBPP (New Black Panters) (Black hate group)
NOI.org - The Nation of Islam Official Website (Nation of Islam) (Black Muslim hate group)
Anti-Defamation League: Leaders Fighting Anti-Semitism and Hate | ADL (Anti-Defamation League) (Jewish hate group)
Suspended Domain (Jewish Defense League) Jewish hate group)
Aryan Nations World Headquarters (Aryan Nations) (White hate group)

We could eliminate these extreme groups but then we would be left with a new set of extreme groups. We could simply keep eliminating all speech whatsoever until everyone is forced to agree with everything the government tells us. At that point we have a scenario not far from the one seen in the movie 1984. Is that really what we want?

Again, I have no problem with the existence of stormfront. But when a group of people with like ideas are linked to violence and criminal activities, then they become a target for scrutiny...whether it is stormfront, NBPP, or NAMBLA.

In the end, when ShootSpeeders, Steinlight, Matthew, and the rest of the pussy brigade go off the deep end and blow up a black church...will it be said they frequented the hate site known as USMB...do you want to be associated with their hate and potential killer actions?

 

[DriftingSand]

Again, I have no problem with the existence of stormfront. But when a group of people with like ideas are linked to violence and criminal activities, then they become a target for scrutiny...whether it is stormfront, NBPP, or NAMBLA.

In the end, when ShootSpeeders, Steinlight, Matthew, and the rest of the pussy brigade go off the deep end and blow up a black church...will it be said they frequented the hate site known as USMB...do you want to be associated with their hate and potential killer actions?

I see your point but if we use your logic then we will all be in deep doodoo because no matter what we do in this life we're going to end up being "associated" with folks on the "wrong side of the law" no matter what we do. I might walk down the street and say hello to a mass murderer without knowing that he's a murderer. I might get on Craigslist and buy a tool or a piece of furniture from a child molester. I might call a wrong number and end up with my information on a drug dealer's phone. I might sell something from my retail store to a black supremacist. See what I mean?

In a world full of good people mixed with bad people we have no choice but to associate with each other as a matter of routine and not necessarily by choice.

 

[Gracie]

But USMB is not geared or set up as a racist hate site. Yes, some are here and are also members at SF, but SF is set up for racism. USMB is not.

 

[SAYIT]

America's founding fathers chose an open (free speech) society and Americans have lived and died protecting our constitutional rights. Web sites like StormFront and USMB offer us a way to blow off steam and perhaps learn something without resorting to violence and as such do an invaluable service to our freedoms. Who knows how many deaths have been averted thanks to these message boards?

 

[DriftingSand]

But USMB is not geared or set up as a racist hate site. Yes, some are here and are also members at SF, but SF is set up for racism. USMB is not.

That's a good thing. If this was a racist site then I wouldn't be here. What I DO like about this site is the diversity of opinions. It spurs conversation, dialogue, debate, friendships, and, yes, enemies. I've tried joining sites that only allowed folks who agreed with them (Christian-only sites or Conservative-only sites) and I got bored. It's no fun "preaching to the choir" all of the time.

I was also a very long time member of a site that wouldn't allow folks to talk about certain topics. I was actually banned for a week because I posted a link about Hobby Lobby's fight over religious freedom but the link simply mentioned the word that wasn't allowed on that forum. LOL. I'm not kidding. It's why I'm no longer a member there and AM a member here.

So there is certain appeal to this site that allows discussions concerning just about anything and everything that affects modern life. I probably only agree with about 1/4 of what I read here but I still really like this forum.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

1 at SPLC and thousands at stormfront

you got a point whiteball?

The Jewish Center shooting in Kansas Sunday may have been preventable, if a 2009 Department of Homeland Security report on right wing extremism had been heeded.
Was Jewish Center Shooting Preventable? DHS Report Warned Of Extremist Threat


The DHS report from 2009
http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/041609_extremism.pdf

The first sign of paranoia is seeing conspiracies where none exist. The guy acted by himself, he was not a member of any group.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

It's not about censorship...sites like stormfront are for like minded people. Let them spew their nonsense and hate...they have every right to voice their opinion and rape the minds of the impressionable. If these people are more inclined to incite violence and if members of this group are more than likely to be mass murderers and criminals, then I see no issue with monitoring their speech and actions. If stop and frisk is acceptable for an entire race, then the scrutiny of people who frequent hate sites is the least law enforcement officials should do to protect the innocent.

As for how it relates to the pussy posters on USMB...I think it is the choice of USMB and its members as to how they want to be perceived. At what point does the non-stop pussy posts turn USMB into a hate site? It's sort of like the transvestites who took over one man's bar. He could have stopped it before it happened, but instead he was a dumb ass and let them take over.

I see your point but there's a difference between an owner of a forum determining what can or can't be discussed and a government that suppresses free speech that it doesn't like.

Again, if the following sites are allowed to meet in public and voice their anti-American ideologies or racial hatred then Stormfront has the same right (whether we like their ideology or not):

National Council of La Raza | Take Action (La Raza or "the race") (Hispanic hate group)
NBPP (New Black Panters) (Black hate group)
NOI.org - The Nation of Islam Official Website (Nation of Islam) (Black Muslim hate group)
Anti-Defamation League: Leaders Fighting Anti-Semitism and Hate | ADL (Anti-Defamation League) (Jewish hate group)
Suspended Domain (Jewish Defense League) Jewish hate group)
Aryan Nations World Headquarters (Aryan Nations) (White hate group)

We could eliminate these extreme groups but then we would be left with a new set of extreme groups. We could simply keep eliminating all speech whatsoever until everyone is forced to agree with everything the government tells us. At that point we have a scenario not far from the one seen in the movie 1984. Is that really what we want?

Again, I have no problem with the existence of stormfront. But when a group of people with like ideas are linked to violence and criminal activities, then they become a target for scrutiny...whether it is stormfront, NBPP, or NAMBLA.

In the end, when ShootSpeeders, Steinlight, Matthew, and the rest of the pussy brigade go off the deep end and blow up a black church...will it be said they frequented the hate site known as USMB...do you want to be associated with their hate and potential killer actions?

Because it is always right to convict people based on who they know, unless it is Obama, right?

 

[DigitalDrifter]

1 at SPLC and thousands at stormfront

you got a point whiteball?

The Jewish Center shooting in Kansas Sunday may have been preventable, if a 2009 Department of Homeland Security report on right wing extremism had been heeded.
Was Jewish Center Shooting Preventable? DHS Report Warned Of Extremist Threat


The DHS report from 2009
http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/041609_extremism.pdf

And speaking of shootingS in Kansas, Homeland Security maybe should have been keeping an eye on this guy: Missouri Man Accused of Targeting Drivers Faces 18 Felony Counts - NBC News

 

[Nutz]

Again, I have no problem with the existence of stormfront. But when a group of people with like ideas are linked to violence and criminal activities, then they become a target for scrutiny...whether it is stormfront, NBPP, or NAMBLA.

In the end, when ShootSpeeders, Steinlight, Matthew, and the rest of the pussy brigade go off the deep end and blow up a black church...will it be said they frequented the hate site known as USMB...do you want to be associated with their hate and potential killer actions?

I see your point but if we use your logic then we will all be in deep doodoo because no matter what we do in this life we're going to end up being "associated" with folks on the "wrong side of the law" no matter what we do. I might walk down the street and say hello to a mass murderer without knowing that he's a murderer. I might get on Craigslist and buy a tool or a piece of furniture from a child molester. I might call a wrong number and end up with my information on a drug dealer's phone. I might sell something from my retail store to a black supremacist. See what I mean?

In a world full of good people mixed with bad people we have no choice but to associate with each other as a matter of routine and not necessarily by choice.

Yes, but associating with pussies and the like is more than saying hello on the street.