froggy
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And that gives you automatic voter registration. Same where I live.Wow. What a misrepresentation of what happened . He didn't allow illegals to vote . It's just a motor voter registration .
And that gives you automatic voter registration. Same where I live.Wow. What a misrepresentation of what happened . He didn't allow illegals to vote . It's just a motor voter registration .
A distinction without a difference.Wow. What a misrepresentation of what happened . He didn't allow illegals to vote . It's just a motor voter registration .
Incorrect. Only a few states allow this.And that gives you automatic voter registration. Same where I live.Wow. What a misrepresentation of what happened . He didn't allow illegals to vote . It's just a motor voter registration .
I'm sorry . Ain't it the conservatives demanding all these voter I'd laws ? We'll guess what , non citizens can get drivers licenses in every state .
What, at this point, difference does it make? CA votes for regressives consistently, a few more regressive voters will mean nothing in the grand scheme of thing. The only thing they will accomplish with this is to drive citizens out of the State and they will lose more power in congress than they've already lost.
Wow. What a misrepresentation of what happened . He didn't allow illegals to vote . It's just a motor voter registration .
If they had to prove citizenship before getting driver licenses"Jerry Brown Signs Bill Allowing Illegal Immigrants to Vote"
Another ridiculous lie from the right.
From the moronic cited article:
“Because illegal immigrants are now eligible for obtaining driver’s licenses, they could be allowed to vote in elections if the Secretary of State’s office fails to verify their eligibility properly.”
This fails as a slippery slope fallacy, "could" does not mean "will," there's no reason to believe the Secretary of State’s office will 'fail' to verify their eligibility, those undocumented won't be allowed to register to vote as is the case with LPRAs.
Moreover, one is not 'illegal' until such time as he has been found guilty in a court of law of entering the country absent authorization; all persons are entitled to due process of the law, including those undocumented, where it's perfectly warranted and consistent with the Constitution to afford them driver's licenses until such time as their immigration status is determined.
This is more of the politics of fear from republicans.
That is the same as saying Manson was not a murderer until he went to court. No, he was a murderer the minute he murdered one person. The action dictates the descriptive noun. An illegal was an illegal as soon as he crossed the border without permission just as a person is illegal if he stays beyond the time limit of the visa. You are talking about "legal" definitions just as "insane" has a legal definition opposed to the common understanding of insane."Jerry Brown Signs Bill Allowing Illegal Immigrants to Vote"
Another ridiculous lie from the right.
From the moronic cited article:
“Because illegal immigrants are now eligible for obtaining driver’s licenses, they could be allowed to vote in elections if the Secretary of State’s office fails to verify their eligibility properly.”
This fails as a slippery slope fallacy, "could" does not mean "will," there's no reason to believe the Secretary of State’s office will 'fail' to verify their eligibility, those undocumented won't be allowed to register to vote as is the case with LPRAs.
Moreover, one is not 'illegal' until such time as he has been found guilty in a court of law of entering the country absent authorization; all persons are entitled to due process of the law, including those undocumented, where it's perfectly warranted and consistent with the Constitution to afford them driver's licenses until such time as their immigration status is determined.
This is more of the politics of fear from republicans.
froggy said "if..."Since when are licenses restricted to citizens only ? They ain't passports .
You're right. We need voter registration cards. Good point, Timmy.And that gives you automatic voter registration. Same where I live.Wow. What a misrepresentation of what happened . He didn't allow illegals to vote . It's just a motor voter registration .
I'm sorry . Ain't it the conservatives demanding all these voter I'd laws ? We'll guess what , non citizens can get drivers licenses in every state .
That is the same as saying Manson was not a murderer until he went to court. No, he was a murderer the minute he murdered one person. The action dictates the descriptive noun. An illegal was an illegal as soon as he crossed the border without permission just as a person is illegal if he stays beyond the time limit of the visa.Moreover, one is not 'illegal' until such time as he has been found guilty in a court of law of entering the country absent authorization…