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And you know a small part of me believes that karma bullshit so even I'm spiritual.Yup. If it ain't Jesus it's atheist. But notice how you consider yourself one of them even tHough they disagree? Reminds me of gays who say they are Christians.You do know there are a lot of atheists that don't drink do drugs aren't promiscuous or wicked, right?
You weren't an atheist you were a wicked theist. Guilt got you.
I personally think you can be an atheist and also be spiritual. To me, "atheist" simply means "not theist" or "not religious". My very religious sister calls me her atheist brother. I don't consider myself an atheist because I do believe in a higher power... I'll even refer to that power as "God" sometimes.
You tell that sister in law her religion is holding us back. You tell her it's how they control us. Tell her sealybobo said so
I'm reminded of the Bob Dylan song... Serve Somebody... you can be a sinner or you can be a saint but you gotta serve somebody!
So where did life originate? Why do you exist? Where are you going? Why are you here? How do you know this?Sensing the universe and the wonder of it does not require dogma.
I find all kinds of things wondrous. Doesn't have to do anything with superstitious beliefs though. For example, I find history to be fascinating and wondrous and I would love to visit some historical sites around the world some day. I also find the universe and how it was created and how vast it is to be wondrous, but that doesn't mean I have to believe that some "entity" created it all.
Oh my "god."Go back to grade school and learn about evolution, will ya?
LittleNipper
Short intermezzo and some dirty and quick explanations:
Q:Where did life originate?
A: The theory of evolution is able to say "in a first cell", because every lifeform has a common ancestor with every other lifeform. Saint Francis would say: "We are all brothers and sisters" like brother worm and sister bee for example.
Q: Why do you exist?
A: The theory of evolution is not able to give here an answer.
Q: Where are you going?
A: For the theory of evolution life is only able to exist in combination with death - while paradise and heaven are a place full of life without death.
Q: Why are you here?
A: The theory of evolution denies the existance of plans (teleology) in nature. The philosophy of the theory of evolution would say: We are on no special reason here in this world and we go a way without any definable end, except the end of the own life.
Q: How do you know this?
A: We know something in natural science because we agree on plausible reasons (in mathematics for example) or because we are able to ask the reality all around (for example in experiments). In biology for example we compare similiar structures and categorize this structures. For example we compare the hand of a Gorilla with the hand of a human being and try to find the common elements and the different elements. The more common elements and the less different elements the more is something like we are. A Gorilla is more similiar (near) - a bee and a worm are not so similiar (far).
The very big problem of the theory of evolution are the experiments in genetics because all lifeforms on our planet are using the same code for reproduction. Nature makes changes littlest step by littlest step. We make it ... I fear "crazy". I personally don't have the impression in the Eldorado "genetics" is a good knowledge really existing. Sometimes I have in this context the imagination children are playing with fire in a dry barn full of dry straw surrounded from a dry world without exit.
Why I blamed Christ because ones do eat silence when I eat food and that make me agnry about he or she far away and I've hate Swedish God in forum so I can't believe on Swedish God. My voices trouble is bigger than a tornado in United. My voices don't like me outside my old friend so they're voices in my brain but I like outside my gangsta friend they allways believe that negro are bigger strenght than all white in United States. That's nothing truth.
Why I blamed Christ because ones do eat silence when I eat food and that make me agnry about he or she far away and I've hate Swedish God in forum so I can't believe on Swedish God. My voices trouble is bigger than a tornado in United. My voices don't like me outside my old friend so they're voices in my brain but I like outside my gangsta friend they allways believe that negro are bigger strenght than all white in United States. That's nothing truth.
Did the voices in your brain tell you to kill your friend's dog?
Why I blamed Christ because ones do eat silence when I eat food and that make me agnry about he or she far away and I've hate Swedish God in forum so I can't believe on Swedish God. My voices trouble is bigger than a tornado in United. My voices don't like me outside my old friend so they're voices in my brain but I like outside my gangsta friend they allways believe that negro are bigger strenght than all white in United States. That's nothing truth.
Did the voices in your brain tell you to kill your friend's dog?
Wasn't good but it was before my voices calling on me.
Why I blamed Christ because ones do eat silence when I eat food and that make me agnry about he or she far away and I've hate Swedish God in forum so I can't believe on Swedish God. My voices trouble is bigger than a tornado in United. My voices don't like me outside my old friend so they're voices in my brain but I like outside my gangsta friend they allways believe that negro are bigger strenght than all white in United States. That's nothing truth.
Did the voices in your brain tell you to kill your friend's dog?
Wasn't good but it was before my voices calling on me.
I understand. you said that you did it because you wanted to live.
What do the voices tell you?
Why I blamed Christ because ones do eat silence when I eat food and that make me agnry about he or she far away and I've hate Swedish God in forum so I can't believe on Swedish God. My voices trouble is bigger than a tornado in United. My voices don't like me outside my old friend so they're voices in my brain but I like outside my gangsta friend they allways believe that negro are bigger strenght than all white in United States. That's nothing truth.
Did the voices in your brain tell you to kill your friend's dog?
Wasn't good but it was before my voices calling on me.
I understand. you said that you did it because you wanted to live.
What do the voices tell you?
Yes, I will living life.
They breath through how is togh for me.
Then they eating through how does no helps to change places.
And they know everything far away when I relax to hard rock.
And they will hurt me in fight but that doesn't help far away.
Why I blamed Christ because ones do eat silence when I eat food and that make me agnry about he or she far away and I've hate Swedish God in forum so I can't believe on Swedish God. My voices trouble is bigger than a tornado in United. My voices don't like me outside my old friend so they're voices in my brain but I like outside my gangsta friend they allways believe that negro are bigger strenght than all white in United States. That's nothing truth.
Did the voices in your brain tell you to kill your friend's dog?
Wasn't good but it was before my voices calling on me.
I understand. you said that you did it because you wanted to live.
What do the voices tell you?
Yes, I will living life.
They breath through how is togh for me.
Then they eating through how does no helps to change places.
And they know everything far away when I relax to hard rock.
And they will hurt me in fight but that doesn't help far away.
You fight the voices?
How do they hurt you?
Did the voices in your brain tell you to kill your friend's dog?
Wasn't good but it was before my voices calling on me.
I understand. you said that you did it because you wanted to live.
What do the voices tell you?
Yes, I will living life.
They breath through how is togh for me.
Then they eating through how does no helps to change places.
And they know everything far away when I relax to hard rock.
And they will hurt me in fight but that doesn't help far away.
You fight the voices?
How do they hurt you?
They can't fight me.
They are disapointed outside my old friend from Iraq.
Abdul have strange feelings about my father and uncle.
He speak like them but in outlandish no in Finnish.
Mr Abdul was irritation about two old Finn Nazism.
I never tell mr Abdul about my fathers side.
Abdul are against Nazism but not me.
My father and he's brother hate black humans.
White are stronger than black in world.
So where did life originate? Why do you exist? Where are you going? Why are you here? How do you know this?Sensing the universe and the wonder of it does not require dogma.
I find all kinds of things wondrous. Doesn't have to do anything with superstitious beliefs though. For example, I find history to be fascinating and wondrous and I would love to visit some historical sites around the world some day. I also find the universe and how it was created and how vast it is to be wondrous, but that doesn't mean I have to believe that some "entity" created it all.
Oh my "god."
LittleNipper
Short intermezzo and some dirty and quick explanations:
Q:Where did life originate?
A: The theory of evolution is able to say "in a first cell", because every lifeform has a common ancestor with every other lifeform. Saint Francis would say: "We are all brothers and sisters" like brother worm and sister bee for example.
Q: Why do you exist?
A: The theory of evolution is not able to give here an answer.
Q: Where are you going?
A: For the theory of evolution life is only able to exist in combination with death - while paradise and heaven are a place full of life without death.
Q: Why are you here?
A: The theory of evolution denies the existance of plans (teleology) in nature. The philosophy of the theory of evolution would say: We are on no special reason here in this world and we go a way without any definable end, except the end of the own life.
Q: How do you know this?
A: We know something in natural science because we agree on plausible reasons (in mathematics for example) or because we are able to ask the reality all around (for example in experiments). In biology for example we compare similiar structures and categorize this structures. For example we compare the hand of a Gorilla with the hand of a human being and try to find the common elements and the different elements. The more common elements and the less different elements the more is something like we are. A Gorilla is more similiar (near) - a bee and a worm are not so similiar (far).
The very big problem of the theory of evolution are the experiments in genetics because all lifeforms on our planet are using the same code for reproduction. Nature makes changes littlest step by littlest step. We make it ... I fear "crazy". I personally don't have the impression in the Eldorado "genetics" is a good knowledge really existing. Sometimes I have in this context the imagination children are playing with fire in a dry barn full of dry straw surrounded from a dry world without exit.
Fatal flaw in the ToE
because it's hypotheses.
Life did not originate from a first cell
or else we would be seeing this happen all around us just from one cell. This is not testable experimentally either.
One can't even make protein from all the amino acids found in space, and it won't happen even if you can wait millions of years.
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To change the subject a bit, I saw Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice tonight and after the movie checked out an artist named Cleon Peterson.
His street artist art was hanging in the museum used for Lex Luther's party. Peterson uses Graeco-Roman vase style drawings depicting violence and brutality in basic black and white colors
and sometimes red.
It is remarkable how much he is able to express just using those colors. He says, "“I call these guys the shadows. It kind of represents the dark side of all of us.”
His art depicts a world in which violence exists without context. And he’s not afraid to show the uglier side of humanity. He continues, “That world is today. People today, in the US especially, have become non-participatory as far as what’s going on in the world. Yes, we see violence and war in the media but people don’t feel like it’s your life – or has anything to do with you, but of course we are very much part of it.” It's why we need the death penalty.
Cleon Peterson
They hurt me from distance with breath through and eating my food this they hurt me.
My old friends doesn't will know about my voices problem.
Abduls gang members will fight all Nazism. Even though they may live in Sweden, they want to fight each nazi they come close. Cheating Rules of the municipal council. They are like negrous in United they will fight against Nazism.
They hurt me from distance with breath through and eating my food this they hurt me.
My old friends doesn't will know about my voices problem.
Abduls gang members will fight all Nazism. Even though they may live in Sweden, they want to fight each nazi they come close. Cheating Rules of the municipal council. They are like negrous in United they will fight against Nazism.
Does anybody in Sweden know about your voices problem?
In Sweden are nothing with Nationalsocialism rules but after poll 2018 or some early in 2017 there can be one Nationalsocialist Party if not really are one but nothing clear yet so we can kick back gangs in Sweden how will destroy for every nazi in Sweden even my town here is one gang with gangsta rules. Like negrous in United they are. But all Nazism in my town are not hurt's yet. I know my Finn slakt.
1. The narrow triangle problem is solved from making 2 measurements 6 months spread AKA at a different time in its orbit. The point is not like you suggest 8000 miles but rather the orbital distance of the Earth traveling around the Sun. In other words the earth as a vastly different position in space in 6 months . Methods of Measuring Stellar Distances.1. sketched my point on the stars I'll do it again. If Genesis contents the earth is 6000 years old. Then logicaly the night sky should only have stars in it that are 6000 lightyears or less away, very local in cosmic terms.I'll make a couple of points here.Evos: The geographic and rock layers of the earth support a gradual development of life. Darwin expected that if fossils were found in Precambrian rocks they would show a gradual development.
Not true. Stephen Jay Gould states, "the Precambrian fossils that actually were found after Darwin’s death." Also, evos are basing their "religion" on old books such as Charles Lyell's Principles of Geology (1830) and Charles Darwin's Origin of Species (1859).
Evos: The fossil record proves evolution is true. For example,the fact that primate or ape-like fossils are not found in Devonian layers proves that apes had not evolved yet.
False. If there were ape-like fossils found, then it would be ignored by evos (anything that contradicts evolution is ignored) or say it was planted. Creationists say that the layers are based on geography, not time.
Let's look at the layers. Even their names are based on geography, not time.
Geologic Strata - The distinctive characteristic of a layer might be the kind of minerals found in it, or the kind of. There is something unique about the layer that geologists recognize and think is significant.
Geologists, like biologists, like to classify similar things by giving a name to a group of similar things. This makes it easier to study the rocks, and talk to other geologists about the rocks.
Devonian Layer - It is named after Devon, England, where rocks from this period were first studied.There are lots of fish fossils in this layer, but noprimate fossils, as evolutionists love to point out. Why is this? Is it because primates did not exist anywhere in the world when the Devonian rocks were formed? Or was it because apes don’t live where fish live?
To find fossils of extinct primates, paleontologists go to Tanzania or Kenya; but they don’t find fish fossils there. Is that because fish did not exist when
Homo habilis or Australopithecus Afarensis lived? Or is it because fish don’t live on dry land where Homo habilis or Australopithecus Afarensis lived?
Fossils are formed when things get buried rapidly by a landslide, sandstorm, tsunami, flood, or any other disaster that might bury things. The things that get buried are the things that happened to be at the place that got buried.
On rare occasions, things get buried out of place. Someone might have caught a fish and brought it back to camp just before a rockslide buried the camp, causing a fish fossil to be foundmysteriously out of place. But that’s a rare anomaly. Fossil-bearing strata overwhelmingly tend to contain fossils associated with a particular habitat. In fact, that’s how paleontologists determine what the habitat was like.
Geographic Names
There are a few exceptions, but generally speaking, strata have geographic names. For example,
The Jurassic is named after the Jura Mountains within the European Alps, where limestone strata from the period was first identified.
The Mississippian is so named because rocks with this age are exposed in the Mississippi River valley.
The Pennsylvanian is named after the American state of Pennsylvania, where rocks with this age are widespread.
Notice that each layer is associated with an age. Why is that? Mississippian rocks are supposedly older than Pennsylvanian rocks; but Pennsylvania was a state before Mississippi was. Chronologically, the two names make no sense. That’s because the names are based on geography, not time.
More, as I get time.
1. How do you explain the starfilled sky?
2. "Even their names are based on geography, not time." , think that's stretching the truth quite a bit
Archean time period from the Greek for beginning.
Protorezoic time period Greek for earlier life
Phanerozoic time period Greek for visible life. the list goes on but you get my drift.
3. If you claim science supress data I would like proof of that statement. Not "If there were ape-like fossils found, then it would be ignored by evos"
4. The fact that you admit to these layers, proves my point that the earth is older then 6000 years. Fossilazation in itself is a process wich is understood to take a minimum of 10000 years. Coal, oil are known to be biological in origin. and take hundred of thousands of years minimally, a few exeptions not withstanding. These are natural processes know and understood by science.
5. Ill make this point again. I can use different tracks to disprove a young earth. You might say they're both believe systems, but my belief system does seem to offer a tremendous amount of cooberating facts. I accept since you have faith you don't feel the need to prove what you belief. But if, and I'm talking about creatonism, you feel the need to use the Bible as the ultimate proof in a scientific world. I think it reasonable that the bible needs to go trough the same scrutiny as any scientific theory before you can actually put it in a classroom for instance.
1. I guess by "starfilled sky," you mean is it based on time. NDT corrected perfectionist Director James Cameron in one of the scenes of his movie Titanic. Yes, I agree with that but what does have to do with our discussion?
2. With few exceptions, the names of the strata layers are mostly based on location. Maybe you're so stuck on the names being associated with time because evolutionists have thoroughly indoctrinated generations of students to believe that rock layers are associated with time, not places. The names follow Occam's Razor -- The kinds of plants and animals present when the rocks were formed depends on geography (that is, ecological zone), not time. That’s why most have geographic names.
3. I claim science suppress creation and creation scientists. Science does not accept the supernatural since 1795.
One of the best known “human ancestors” is an Australopithecus afarensis skeleton called Lucy. What does she look like? A human skull? Uhh... no.
This is one of the best photos of the "250" hominid fossils:
4. Nope. The layers are based on catastrophism, not unifamitarianism. There was a global flood and our earth was shaped within months not millions or billions of years.
5. I already sketched the outline of my arguments, so please proceed with yours. It does not have to be in detail.
2. Again the time periods I gave are not just based in time but even as my original point said, in the evolutionare fase of life. Sometimes in the type of rock found.( Cretacious) after large quantities of chalk found dating from that period. Sometimes geograpicaly. I'm not stuck on the naming. You brought it up, siting it as proof of the fact that science doesn't find time a factor when naming a strata. While geology is tightly intertwined with the theory of evolution as the names of some of the geolical periods prove.
3. Science has added some very unpopular ideas since before it was science. Evolution was one of them when it was introduced. So was plate tectonics, the big bang and numerous others we consider common knowledge. Supressing anything in it is extremely difficult if not impossible. Since any theory brought out by science constantly has to stand the test of reality. A scientist who can disprove an accepted theory becomes a hero to science. Claiming it supresses ideas is simply untrue.
4.Prominent Hominid Fossils
The link provided brings you to a site with homonid fossils and a description of what they found.Most are fragments but some are considerably more then that. And remember I don't have to prove that all of them are homonids just one is sufficient to invalidate Genesis.
1. Oh, that's what you meant. LOL. This has been answered by science and math.
The Earth being 6,000 years old is based on observation. Astronomers have observed that about every 30 years a star dies and explodes into a supernova (ICR September, 1998). If the universe were billions of years old, it would equal to about several hundred million supernovas. However, astronomers have observed less than 300 supernovas in the universe. This limited number of supernovas shows that the universe is less than 10,000 years old, just like the Bible says.
Next, how do you calculate the distance between a star and earth that is lightyears away? Please answer.
Here is what I learned in school. Using trigonometry, if you have two observation points, then you can calculate the distance to a third point. This is what surveyors do.
What we can do is take a point on the Earth and another point very far away such as the distance of the sun from earth which is 93 million miles away. At the speed of light, it takes around 8 minutes for the sun's rays to reach earth. This means that the diameter of earth’s orbit around the sun is 16 light minutes. So, if you look at a star today and then looked at it 6 months later, it would be 16 light minutes away, amiright? This star would be approx. 186 million miles away; Not a problem when you're traveling at the speed of light.
So what's the problem? The reason I use the distance of the earth and sun is to point out a problem. How do you measure distance to something that is lightyears away when you are on earth? Earth is about 8,000 miles in diameter. We can use trig to calculate the third point, i.e. the star, but you are trying to measure a star that is very far away when physically you can only set up a point 8,000 miles away. It is the narrow triangle problem.
Are you following me? You stated that you can measure 6000 lightyears away which is very local in cosmic terms. Just how do you do that?
2. I think you are admitting that your evolutionary time periods were calculated by evolutionists based on the layer and somehow they concluded it showed millions of years difference. It sounds like circular reasoning. The dinosaur fossils are 100 million years old because they are found in rocks that were formed 100 million years ago. The rocks are known to be 100 million years old because they contain the bones of dinosaurs that died 100 million years ago. When the evos get two different time periods between the rock and the fossil, what do they use?
.What I stated was the layers of rock found and what scientists found, i.e. fossils, is based on the what was there at the time the things got buried and the rock formed. Occam's razor.
3 and 4. What do these prominent Hominid fossils show anyway?
This links describes in 3 other methods used in detail.
2. So you think it's bioligist deciding how to name strata? You flipped your argument btw. First it was the naming is geographical now it's, because it's not geograpical it's Biological it has to be a conspiracy. And let's look at the fossil record alot of it is buried deep and I mean very deep in the floor, 6000 years is a hell of a short time to bury something in some cases 2000 meters in the ground and turn it into stone. Do you have any idea what natural phenomona would be able to do that?
3. I've made this point alot already but I'll say it again. I've given you multiple proofs and by no means all of them, in different branches of science, going from astronomy to geoligy,physics, chemistry, etc. So far the best you've come back with is that either my data is wrong, altough it's accepted by an OVERWHELMING majority in the scientific world, or it's a conspiracy of the scientific community.I have kept my explanations general and simple to give you room to ask questions and I've answered nearly all of them In return you have given me nothing but some very conveluted assumptions from ppl lived for 950 years in Biblical times to the naming of strata proves geoligist don't accept evolution because some layers are named for locations. Or it's a conspiracy.At no point where you able to give any real accepted scientific data to cooberate this. As i said before you are entitled to your beliefs, but I think it's safe to say, that those beliefs don't stand the test of reality as science does.
So where did life originate? Why do you exist? Where are you going? Why are you here? How do you know this?I find all kinds of things wondrous. Doesn't have to do anything with superstitious beliefs though. For example, I find history to be fascinating and wondrous and I would love to visit some historical sites around the world some day. I also find the universe and how it was created and how vast it is to be wondrous, but that doesn't mean I have to believe that some "entity" created it all.
Oh my "god."
LittleNipper
Short intermezzo and some dirty and quick explanations:
Q:Where did life originate?
A: The theory of evolution is able to say "in a first cell", because every lifeform has a common ancestor with every other lifeform. Saint Francis would say: "We are all brothers and sisters" like brother worm and sister bee for example.
Q: Why do you exist?
A: The theory of evolution is not able to give here an answer.
Q: Where are you going?
A: For the theory of evolution life is only able to exist in combination with death - while paradise and heaven are a place full of life without death.
Q: Why are you here?
A: The theory of evolution denies the existance of plans (teleology) in nature. The philosophy of the theory of evolution would say: We are on no special reason here in this world and we go a way without any definable end, except the end of the own life.
Q: How do you know this?
A: We know something in natural science because we agree on plausible reasons (in mathematics for example) or because we are able to ask the reality all around (for example in experiments). In biology for example we compare similiar structures and categorize this structures. For example we compare the hand of a Gorilla with the hand of a human being and try to find the common elements and the different elements. The more common elements and the less different elements the more is something like we are. A Gorilla is more similiar (near) - a bee and a worm are not so similiar (far).
The very big problem of the theory of evolution are the experiments in genetics because all lifeforms on our planet are using the same code for reproduction. Nature makes changes littlest step by littlest step. We make it ... I fear "crazy". I personally don't have the impression in the Eldorado "genetics" is a good knowledge really existing. Sometimes I have in this context the imagination children are playing with fire in a dry barn full of dry straw surrounded from a dry world without exit.
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Guess I got it. So you said something like: "Verhängnisvoll fehlerbehaftet im Sinne des zu evaluierenden Zieles".
because it's hypotheses.
Give me the exact words of this what you think what the hypothese is.
Life did not originate from a first cell
That's the only solution if every living multi-cellular organism has with every other multi-cellular organism a common ancestor. If you have a better solution say it. (Don't forget: What came before the first living cell is not part of biology but part of chemistry)
or else we would be seeing this happen all around us just from one cell. This is not testable experimentally either.
The experiment in this case we call "fossils" and "pedigress". Physics is using methods of physics. Biology is using methods of biology. If we could explain biology only with methods of physics it would be physics. The hierarchy is: physics -> chemistry -> biology.
One can't even make protein from all the amino acids found in space, and it won't happen even if you can wait millions of years.
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It happened.
To change the subject a bit, I saw Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice tonight and after the movie checked out an artist named Cleon Peterson.
Batman and Superman are products of the spirit of artists. Cleon Peterson?
His street artist art was hanging in the museum used for Lex Luther's party. Peterson uses Graeco-Roman vase style drawings depicting violence and brutality in basic black and white colors
Black and white are the colors of the german knights. Graeco-roman vases are beautiful. Both I see positive.
and sometimes red.
It is remarkable how much he is able to express just using those colors. He says, "“I call these guys the shadows. It kind of represents the dark side of all of us.”
I don't know the context now but the backround black and white and the color red don't express agressions.
His art depicts a world in which violence exists without context. And he’s not afraid to show the uglier side of humanity. He continues, “That world is today. People today, in the US especially, have become non-participatory as far as what’s going on in the world. Yes, we see violence and war in the media but people don’t feel like it’s your life – or has anything to do with you, but of course we are very much part of it.” It's why we need the death penalty.
Cleon Peterson
No one needs death penalty.
To get from single to multiple cell organisms, then you need building blocks of protein.
