If God's Flood was only a regional flood...

It wasn't a failed experiment, but a mistake made in looking for gravitational waves. The galactic dust caused their readings to be incorrect. What the initial success and aftermath of BICEP2 (was not correct) showed was evolution's cosmic inflation proponents were wrong. They were all too eager to propose what you propose of having any number of different laws in other universes and that cosmic inflation backs up the Big Bang Theory. All it did was show where cosmic inflation is not found.. Even though gravitational waves were discovered after this experiment, it does not mean that the cosmic inflation theory part of the Big Bang Theory holds, too. It's like they're science-ing the sh*t out of gravitational waves so that the cosmic inflation model can be propped up.

And do you know why cosmic inflation is important? It helps explain the differences in our expanding universe. If it were not true, which it isn't, then our universe would look not as dense and similar as it expanded out from its initial "bang." It doesn't explain the clusters of our galaxies and stuff even if much of the materials in the mass can be pressed into a point of singularity. Moreover, as you know, the heat of the universe in one part of the universe being the same in other parts of the universe is what confirmed the BBT for these scientists.

"Another conundrum thrown up by the basic Big Bang theory is how to explain the relative homogeneity and evenness of the temperature of the cosmic microwave background radiation. How did large-scale structures such as galaxies and clusters of galaxies develop out of what should have been a rather boringly amorphous and featureless fireball?

This would appear to be in direct violation of the Second Law of Thermodynamics, which describes an inexorable tendency towards entropy and uniformity and away from patterns and structures. If our universe had started out completely smooth, then it should have continued that way, and the universe today would contain nothing more than thinly spread dark matter along with less than one atom per cubic metre of hydrogen and helium gas, with no sign of the texture and complexity we see around us (stars, galaxies, a multitude of elements, life)."

Cosmic Inflation - The Big Bang and the Big Crunch - The Physics of the Universe
So waht, they move onto another experiment, that's what happens, sometimes the experiment works and sometimes it doesn't. What does all this have to do with possible other universes?

What do you mean what this means for possible other universes? It means there isn't any evidence for them. First, it was established that one couldn't have an universe where our science experiments would not work. What was determined was in the core of scientists who believe in cosmic expansion, in order to explain how a "big bang" could expand in the way our universe is laid out, would accept all possible worlds. It was pointed out to them, just like I am pointing out to you now. We can't have worlds where our science does not work. Second, there isn't any experiment where to show how something, even of infinite density and temperature could expand in such a way that our universe ends up in the manner that it did. There is no evidence for cosmic expansion which these scientists keep looking for. They proposed a cosmology, but nothing backs it up. The other thing that we didn't even discuss is one can't have any point of infinite mass or temperature because the math doesn't work. To have any ginormous "infinite" anything -- density, mass, temperature, widgets, anything -- one is dividing by zero, 1000/0 = infinity. I learned only God can divide by zero. If we can divide by zero, then 5 x 0 = 5. In regular math, 10/5 = 2 or 2 x 5 = 10. Only a creator can create five items to make 5 x 0 = 5.

What's equally strange is you just ignore what I proposed of the possibility of multiple dimensions. Why do you continue to believe in multiverses where our science does not work and of infinite possible outcomes? Wouldn't God live in one of them if this were true ha ha? Mine is backed by scientific principles while yours is backed by faith in the "religion" of singularity and cosmic expansion.
Multiple universes are predicted by math. Nothing says that other universes don't have different laws, more dimensions...

You can't have worlds in this universe that work by different laws of this one, ok, but who knows what's beyond our universe or what might have existed before the BB.
If they were all created by the same process then they all have the same laws.
You don't know that, and no, nothing says that they couldn't have different laws and dimensions...
So you think there are different processes which create multiverses? Why would you think that? You are adding unnecessary complexity.
 
No maybe about it.

Additionally I am more than happy for you to believe you are better than others. That is your mistake to make.
So you don't think that you're better than ANYONE on this planet? You're a fucking liar because you think you're better than me, let alone everyone else here. :lol:
Nope. We are all the same. Creatures.

I don't judge the person. I can judge behaviors, I can judge actions, I can judge accomplishments. But in the end we are all human and our worth is no more or no less than others. It's the basis our Founding fathers took when they wrote, all me are created equal.
I'm better than Adolf Hitler, and you're saying that you're not? See? You spout nonsense non-stop.
That's correct. My actions and behaviors are "better" but as with all things all of our actions and behaviors work toward the good of men of good will.
So you are better than some people, your retraction is duly noted.
You don't seem able to differentiate between the person and the act, Taz. Why is that?

Is it beyond your intellectual capabilities to understand what I wrote?
 
No maybe about it.

Additionally I am more than happy for you to believe you are better than others. That is your mistake to make.
So you don't think that you're better than ANYONE on this planet? You're a fucking liar because you think you're better than me, let alone everyone else here. :lol:
Nope. We are all the same. Creatures.

I don't judge the person. I can judge behaviors, I can judge actions, I can judge accomplishments. But in the end we are all human and our worth is no more or no less than others. It's the basis our Founding fathers took when they wrote, all me are created equal.
I'm better than Adolf Hitler, and you're saying that you're not? See? You spout nonsense non-stop.
But here is your problem with that, you start with an extreme example and then use that to justify it towards everyone.
No, I'm just showing you that what you said was bullshit.
Then you failed. Because I couldn't have been more clear in describing the difference between judging the person and judging the act. They are two different things and allow me to see everyone as equal.

You on the other hand have shown that you justify your judgement of others based upon extreme examples.
 
...Then why would god order Noah to take 2 of every animal, if all the animals weren't going to drown because the flood wasn't worldwide as many posters here contend?

okay, let's look at this stupidity.

First, if he took only two of every animal, every animal species would have gone extinct in a couple generations due to inbreeding.

Second, if it was a world wide flood, how did the Marsupials know to go back to Australia? How did they get to where the Ark was to start with.

Also, if Noah was from the Mesopotamian region and ended up at Mount Ararat, after being on a boat floating for a year, how is it he didn't go very far from where he started.

Even in today's oceans, boats that were washed out to sea in the Japanese Tsunami ended up at the Western American coast a year later.

Furthermore, if the oceans rose enough to cover every mountain in the world, how would have they been able to breath. If you go to the top of Mt. Everest or any other really tall mountain, you need to bring oxygen to breath.

You see how the logical problems compound when you make these silly arguments?
You missed the whole point of what I'm asking. Not surprising.
No. He didn't. He saw right through you.
 
...Then why would god order Noah to take 2 of every animal, if all the animals weren't going to drown because the flood wasn't worldwide as many posters here contend?

okay, let's look at this stupidity.

First, if he took only two of every animal, every animal species would have gone extinct in a couple generations due to inbreeding.

Second, if it was a world wide flood, how did the Marsupials know to go back to Australia? How did they get to where the Ark was to start with.

Also, if Noah was from the Mesopotamian region and ended up at Mount Ararat, after being on a boat floating for a year, how is it he didn't go very far from where he started.

Even in today's oceans, boats that were washed out to sea in the Japanese Tsunami ended up at the Western American coast a year later.

Furthermore, if the oceans rose enough to cover every mountain in the world, how would have they been able to breath. If you go to the top of Mt. Everest or any other really tall mountain, you need to bring oxygen to breath.

You see how the logical problems compound when you make these silly arguments?
lol... it wasn't a year, it was 40 days,, Two of every animal was not necessarily about kangaroos and chickens etc. just like kosher law is not about food or animals.

Mountains in scripture represent big shots who loomed over the human landscape.

That would mean a flood of 6 or 7 feet would have covered even the highest mountain...

The splash of a meteor hitting the indian ocean would account for water rising into the sky, fountains of the deep opening up, coastal civilizations and every settlement near streams rivers or dry washes in the deserts would have been swept clean away, and there would have been enough water instantly vaporized into the atmosphere to encircle the globe and caused a worldwide deluge of torrential rain that would have lasted for weeks.

They didn't have to exaggerate much when using this near extinction event as a basis for teaching a moral children story. ....


Burckle Crater - Wikipedia


A large scale tsunami, moving outward from an epicenter in the vicinity of Burckle Crater would become focused as it passed into the Arabian Sea and would roll right up into the Persian Gulf. How far inland this tsunami would travel before exhausting itself would depend on the height of the wave and the topographical gradient over which it was moving. But consider this: from the northern coastline of the Persian Gulf at Kuwait, to a point in the Tigris-Euphrates lowland where the elevation rises to at least 500 feet above sea level is more than 500 miles inland. In other words, a 500 or 600 foot tsunami traveling up the Persian Gulf would have nothing to arrest its momentum as it traveled inland a distance of some 500 miles. The entire plain of the Tigris-Euphrates valley would be completely overwhelmed.
So you're saying that a tsunami from the Indian Ocean would have flooded the whole of the Middle East, including Turkey, for 40 days? :cuckoo:
 
So waht, they move onto another experiment, that's what happens, sometimes the experiment works and sometimes it doesn't. What does all this have to do with possible other universes?

What do you mean what this means for possible other universes? It means there isn't any evidence for them. First, it was established that one couldn't have an universe where our science experiments would not work. What was determined was in the core of scientists who believe in cosmic expansion, in order to explain how a "big bang" could expand in the way our universe is laid out, would accept all possible worlds. It was pointed out to them, just like I am pointing out to you now. We can't have worlds where our science does not work. Second, there isn't any experiment where to show how something, even of infinite density and temperature could expand in such a way that our universe ends up in the manner that it did. There is no evidence for cosmic expansion which these scientists keep looking for. They proposed a cosmology, but nothing backs it up. The other thing that we didn't even discuss is one can't have any point of infinite mass or temperature because the math doesn't work. To have any ginormous "infinite" anything -- density, mass, temperature, widgets, anything -- one is dividing by zero, 1000/0 = infinity. I learned only God can divide by zero. If we can divide by zero, then 5 x 0 = 5. In regular math, 10/5 = 2 or 2 x 5 = 10. Only a creator can create five items to make 5 x 0 = 5.

What's equally strange is you just ignore what I proposed of the possibility of multiple dimensions. Why do you continue to believe in multiverses where our science does not work and of infinite possible outcomes? Wouldn't God live in one of them if this were true ha ha? Mine is backed by scientific principles while yours is backed by faith in the "religion" of singularity and cosmic expansion.
Multiple universes are predicted by math. Nothing says that other universes don't have different laws, more dimensions...

You can't have worlds in this universe that work by different laws of this one, ok, but who knows what's beyond our universe or what might have existed before the BB.
If they were all created by the same process then they all have the same laws.
You don't know that, and no, nothing says that they couldn't have different laws and dimensions...
So you think there are different processes which create multiverses? Why would you think that? You are adding unnecessary complexity.
I think anything's possible until it has been ruled out properly. You need to up your critical thinking game, brah.
 
So you don't think that you're better than ANYONE on this planet? You're a fucking liar because you think you're better than me, let alone everyone else here. :lol:
Nope. We are all the same. Creatures.

I don't judge the person. I can judge behaviors, I can judge actions, I can judge accomplishments. But in the end we are all human and our worth is no more or no less than others. It's the basis our Founding fathers took when they wrote, all me are created equal.
I'm better than Adolf Hitler, and you're saying that you're not? See? You spout nonsense non-stop.
That's correct. My actions and behaviors are "better" but as with all things all of our actions and behaviors work toward the good of men of good will.
So you are better than some people, your retraction is duly noted.
You don't seem able to differentiate between the person and the act, Taz. Why is that?

Is it beyond your intellectual capabilities to understand what I wrote?
No, I understood your backtracking.
 
So you don't think that you're better than ANYONE on this planet? You're a fucking liar because you think you're better than me, let alone everyone else here. :lol:
Nope. We are all the same. Creatures.

I don't judge the person. I can judge behaviors, I can judge actions, I can judge accomplishments. But in the end we are all human and our worth is no more or no less than others. It's the basis our Founding fathers took when they wrote, all me are created equal.
I'm better than Adolf Hitler, and you're saying that you're not? See? You spout nonsense non-stop.
But here is your problem with that, you start with an extreme example and then use that to justify it towards everyone.
No, I'm just showing you that what you said was bullshit.
Then you failed. Because I couldn't have been more clear in describing the difference between judging the person and judging the act. They are two different things and allow me to see everyone as equal.

You on the other hand have shown that you justify your judgement of others based upon extreme examples.
So your equal to Hitler is what you're saying. :poop:
 
Nope. We are all the same. Creatures.

I don't judge the person. I can judge behaviors, I can judge actions, I can judge accomplishments. But in the end we are all human and our worth is no more or no less than others. It's the basis our Founding fathers took when they wrote, all me are created equal.
I'm better than Adolf Hitler, and you're saying that you're not? See? You spout nonsense non-stop.
That's correct. My actions and behaviors are "better" but as with all things all of our actions and behaviors work toward the good of men of good will.
So you are better than some people, your retraction is duly noted.
You don't seem able to differentiate between the person and the act, Taz. Why is that?

Is it beyond your intellectual capabilities to understand what I wrote?
No, I understood your backtracking.
That's only because that's how you need to see it to save face. But you can't fool your ego. Your ego will demand payment. You'll take it out on someone else.
 
Nope. We are all the same. Creatures.

I don't judge the person. I can judge behaviors, I can judge actions, I can judge accomplishments. But in the end we are all human and our worth is no more or no less than others. It's the basis our Founding fathers took when they wrote, all me are created equal.
I'm better than Adolf Hitler, and you're saying that you're not? See? You spout nonsense non-stop.
But here is your problem with that, you start with an extreme example and then use that to justify it towards everyone.
No, I'm just showing you that what you said was bullshit.
Then you failed. Because I couldn't have been more clear in describing the difference between judging the person and judging the act. They are two different things and allow me to see everyone as equal.

You on the other hand have shown that you justify your judgement of others based upon extreme examples.
So your equal to Hitler is what you're saying. :poop:
I am saying no one is special. We are all the same. No one is better than anyone else.

Except you of course, you're special.
 
I'm better than Adolf Hitler, and you're saying that you're not? See? You spout nonsense non-stop.
But here is your problem with that, you start with an extreme example and then use that to justify it towards everyone.
No, I'm just showing you that what you said was bullshit.
Then you failed. Because I couldn't have been more clear in describing the difference between judging the person and judging the act. They are two different things and allow me to see everyone as equal.

You on the other hand have shown that you justify your judgement of others based upon extreme examples.
So your equal to Hitler is what you're saying. :poop:
I am saying no one is special. We are all the same. No one is better than anyone else.

Except you of course, you're special.
You just said that you're the same as Hitler. :auiqs.jpg:
 
But here is your problem with that, you start with an extreme example and then use that to justify it towards everyone.
No, I'm just showing you that what you said was bullshit.
Then you failed. Because I couldn't have been more clear in describing the difference between judging the person and judging the act. They are two different things and allow me to see everyone as equal.

You on the other hand have shown that you justify your judgement of others based upon extreme examples.
So your equal to Hitler is what you're saying. :poop:
I am saying no one is special. We are all the same. No one is better than anyone else.

Except you of course, you're special.
You just said that you're the same as Hitler. :auiqs.jpg:
That's you trying to twist words, Taz. I'm comfortable with what I have written.
 
...Then why would god order Noah to take 2 of every animal, if all the animals weren't going to drown because the flood wasn't worldwide as many posters here contend?

okay, let's look at this stupidity.

First, if he took only two of every animal, every animal species would have gone extinct in a couple generations due to inbreeding.

Second, if it was a world wide flood, how did the Marsupials know to go back to Australia? How did they get to where the Ark was to start with.

Also, if Noah was from the Mesopotamian region and ended up at Mount Ararat, after being on a boat floating for a year, how is it he didn't go very far from where he started.

Even in today's oceans, boats that were washed out to sea in the Japanese Tsunami ended up at the Western American coast a year later.

Furthermore, if the oceans rose enough to cover every mountain in the world, how would have they been able to breath. If you go to the top of Mt. Everest or any other really tall mountain, you need to bring oxygen to breath.

You see how the logical problems compound when you make these silly arguments?
lol... it wasn't a year, it was 40 days,, Two of every animal was not necessarily about kangaroos and chickens etc. just like kosher law is not about food or animals.

Mountains in scripture represent big shots who loomed over the human landscape.

That would mean a flood of 6 or 7 feet would have covered even the highest mountain...

The splash of a meteor hitting the indian ocean would account for water rising into the sky, fountains of the deep opening up, coastal civilizations and every settlement near streams rivers or dry washes in the deserts would have been swept clean away, and there would have been enough water instantly vaporized into the atmosphere to encircle the globe and caused a worldwide deluge of torrential rain that would have lasted for weeks.

They didn't have to exaggerate much when using this near extinction event as a basis for teaching a moral children story. ....


Burckle Crater - Wikipedia


A large scale tsunami, moving outward from an epicenter in the vicinity of Burckle Crater would become focused as it passed into the Arabian Sea and would roll right up into the Persian Gulf. How far inland this tsunami would travel before exhausting itself would depend on the height of the wave and the topographical gradient over which it was moving. But consider this: from the northern coastline of the Persian Gulf at Kuwait, to a point in the Tigris-Euphrates lowland where the elevation rises to at least 500 feet above sea level is more than 500 miles inland. In other words, a 500 or 600 foot tsunami traveling up the Persian Gulf would have nothing to arrest its momentum as it traveled inland a distance of some 500 miles. The entire plain of the Tigris-Euphrates valley would be completely overwhelmed.
So you're saying that a tsunami from the Indian Ocean would have flooded the whole of the Middle East, including Turkey, for 40 days? :cuckoo:

Thats not what I said, but whatever.....lol

Did you have this much trouble keeping up in grade school?
 
...Then why would god order Noah to take 2 of every animal, if all the animals weren't going to drown because the flood wasn't worldwide as many posters here contend?

okay, let's look at this stupidity.

First, if he took only two of every animal, every animal species would have gone extinct in a couple generations due to inbreeding.

Second, if it was a world wide flood, how did the Marsupials know to go back to Australia? How did they get to where the Ark was to start with.

Also, if Noah was from the Mesopotamian region and ended up at Mount Ararat, after being on a boat floating for a year, how is it he didn't go very far from where he started.

Even in today's oceans, boats that were washed out to sea in the Japanese Tsunami ended up at the Western American coast a year later.

Furthermore, if the oceans rose enough to cover every mountain in the world, how would have they been able to breath. If you go to the top of Mt. Everest or any other really tall mountain, you need to bring oxygen to breath.

You see how the logical problems compound when you make these silly arguments?
lol... it wasn't a year, it was 40 days,, Two of every animal was not necessarily about kangaroos and chickens etc. just like kosher law is not about food or animals.

Mountains in scripture represent big shots who loomed over the human landscape.

That would mean a flood of 6 or 7 feet would have covered even the highest mountain...

The splash of a meteor hitting the indian ocean would account for water rising into the sky, fountains of the deep opening up, coastal civilizations and every settlement near streams rivers or dry washes in the deserts would have been swept clean away, and there would have been enough water instantly vaporized into the atmosphere to encircle the globe and caused a worldwide deluge of torrential rain that would have lasted for weeks.

They didn't have to exaggerate much when using this near extinction event as a basis for teaching a moral children story. ....


Burckle Crater - Wikipedia


A large scale tsunami, moving outward from an epicenter in the vicinity of Burckle Crater would become focused as it passed into the Arabian Sea and would roll right up into the Persian Gulf. How far inland this tsunami would travel before exhausting itself would depend on the height of the wave and the topographical gradient over which it was moving. But consider this: from the northern coastline of the Persian Gulf at Kuwait, to a point in the Tigris-Euphrates lowland where the elevation rises to at least 500 feet above sea level is more than 500 miles inland. In other words, a 500 or 600 foot tsunami traveling up the Persian Gulf would have nothing to arrest its momentum as it traveled inland a distance of some 500 miles. The entire plain of the Tigris-Euphrates valley would be completely overwhelmed.
So you're saying that a tsunami from the Indian Ocean would have flooded the whole of the Middle East, including Turkey, for 40 days? :cuckoo:

Thats not what I said, but whatever.....lol

Did you have this much trouble keeping up in grade school?
Buy yourself a map, then look at it. What you claim is dumb. As per usual.
 
Agnostics don't get it, so that is why I don't argue with them.

The point is that a "Noah" existed in a flood catastrophe.
But why take 2 of every animal for a regional flood?
Your dealing with a person who has probably never read the Bible Here’s some words by Jesus Christ Himself That the flood was real, that there was an ark, and the flood came and took them away Jake don’t even believe Jesus Christ
Matthew 24:37-41
You are one of those Korihor snowflakes, tyrone, that lead people to believe bad is good and good is bad. You work in the dark to secretly do wickedness. You lie on your temple recommend when the Bishop and Stake President ask if you are honest in your dealings with your fellow man.

I am a Christian not of the Mormon persuasion, I believe in the Bible as far as it is correctly translated and properly understood, I believe in Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior. I know Mormon general authorities who would suggest that Tyrone Weaver stop spouting off like an antimo apostate in mo clothing. :lol:
 
Taz BreezeWood and others. Your opposition has come as far as I can, but you need to pick up the ball and provide some answers. It's like we got you in a corner and said, "Gotcha." While I have provided answers or theories the creation scientists are working on, your "theories" should start providing some answers if your cosmic inflation model is true.

cosmic-inflation-150130a-02.jpg


Here is a brief article that lists the questions that need to be answered. That graph we see everywhere that looks like a wine glass or balloon tipped sideways may not be true unless you can provide more evidence. It leads me to suspect it isn't just based on the graph being everywhere and is the one used to show that the Big Bang started from a single point. The results do not match the explanations. What we really have found is the flat universe gets expanded like a cloth. What's a mystery is why we see the opaque CMB in every direction.

Cosmic Inflation: How It Gave the Universe the Ultimate Kickstart (Infographic)

Expansion of the universe is not even in every direction
"From current data, it looks like the universe is even, but that's because our instruments aren't advanced enough to really go beyond a certain limit. (The limit of light). In reality, the expansion of the universe is governed by the gravitational wave radiant energy density created by objects coupled by a gravitational force. The closer 2 objects are rotating and accelerating toward each other the more gravitational radiant energy they emit. This increases the amount of expansion more than a uniform sphere. If we had accurate enough instruments we could measure the average radiant energy density throughout the universe and create a detailed “map” of the expansion of the universe. Scientists agree that the universe is most likely modeled as a irregular 3D shape." William Guo (Nobel Prize candidate)

On The Expansion of The Universe Through Gravitational Waves

The universe is not expanding uniformly
The Universe Is Not Expanding Uniformly - Universe Today
What answers are you looking for? A real science site will explain their theory, what else are you looking for?

"Creation science" is an oxymoron because no real science is involved.

I'm looking for you to admit that you do not believe in multiverses and give up the idea of all possible worlds (worlds where our science does not work or works differently).
If you assume the hypothesis that it could exist, then it quickly runs into troubles that cannot explain the reality of our universe such as clusters and solar systems lying within a plane. Or omega = 1. Or the other stuff in the graph I posted. Even the math doesn't work because to get an infinite anything of ginormous size, then you'd have to divide by zero. What these guys investigating the big bang found were the fine-tuning facts that mean the big bang could not happen. Thus, they had to make up some alternative universe. Except one alternative universe doesn't work either. Ii wasn't enough to overcome the fine-tuning parameters so they had to create an infinite amount of universes where the science acts differently. Not only that, to explain our universe, they had to make up inflation in less than a second's time. And yet, if you overcome certain problems that the academic world has, then you become an overnight sensation.

Otherwise, you'll die like Carl Sagan not knowing that aliens do not exist. The guys who came up with cosmic inflation will die not knowing multiverses exist. We know Hawking dies this way with his last paper. Why die not knowing when the answer was in front of your nose the entire time?

It's not an oxymoron if science backs it up in any universe (since you believe in multiverses).
 
Taz BreezeWood and others. Your opposition has come as far as I can, but you need to pick up the ball and provide some answers. It's like we got you in a corner and said, "Gotcha." While I have provided answers or theories the creation scientists are working on, your "theories" should start providing some answers if your cosmic inflation model is true.

cosmic-inflation-150130a-02.jpg


Here is a brief article that lists the questions that need to be answered. That graph we see everywhere that looks like a wine glass or balloon tipped sideways may not be true unless you can provide more evidence. It leads me to suspect it isn't just based on the graph being everywhere and is the one used to show that the Big Bang started from a single point. The results do not match the explanations. What we really have found is the flat universe gets expanded like a cloth. What's a mystery is why we see the opaque CMB in every direction.

Cosmic Inflation: How It Gave the Universe the Ultimate Kickstart (Infographic)

Expansion of the universe is not even in every direction
"From current data, it looks like the universe is even, but that's because our instruments aren't advanced enough to really go beyond a certain limit. (The limit of light). In reality, the expansion of the universe is governed by the gravitational wave radiant energy density created by objects coupled by a gravitational force. The closer 2 objects are rotating and accelerating toward each other the more gravitational radiant energy they emit. This increases the amount of expansion more than a uniform sphere. If we had accurate enough instruments we could measure the average radiant energy density throughout the universe and create a detailed “map” of the expansion of the universe. Scientists agree that the universe is most likely modeled as a irregular 3D shape." William Guo (Nobel Prize candidate)

On The Expansion of The Universe Through Gravitational Waves

The universe is not expanding uniformly
The Universe Is Not Expanding Uniformly - Universe Today
What answers are you looking for? A real science site will explain their theory, what else are you looking for?

"Creation science" is an oxymoron because no real science is involved.

I'm looking for you to admit that you do not believe in multiverses and give up the idea of all possible worlds (worlds where our science does not work or works differently).
If you assume the hypothesis that it could exist, then it quickly runs into troubles that cannot explain the reality of our universe such as clusters and solar systems lying within a plane. Or omega = 1. Or the other stuff in the graph I posted. Even the math doesn't work because to get an infinite anything of ginormous size, then you'd have to divide by zero. What these guys investigating the big bang found were the fine-tuning facts that mean the big bang could not happen. Thus, they had to make up some alternative universe. Except one alternative universe doesn't work either. Ii wasn't enough to overcome the fine-tuning parameters so they had to create an infinite amount of universes where the science acts differently. Not only that, to explain our universe, they had to make up inflation in less than a second's time. And yet, if you overcome certain problems that the academic world has, then you become an overnight sensation.

Otherwise, you'll die like Carl Sagan not knowing that aliens do not exist. The guys who came up with cosmic inflation will die not knowing multiverses exist. We know Hawking dies this way with his last paper. Why die not knowing when the answer was in front of your nose the entire time?

It's not an oxymoron if science backs it up in any universe (since you believe in multiverses).
So you agree that "creation science" is an oxymoron in this universe. Good for you.
 

Forum List

Back
Top