If selling a gay couple a wedding cake means a "Christian" baker participated in the marriage...

[Lysistrata]

If one is "truly upset" by same-sex marriage, this person has no life, and so tries to run other people's.

Aw, rubbish. Some people just don't appreciate the humor, the high camp of a guy in a wedding dress. When Jim Carrey dressed in drag as Vera De Milo, I thought it was hilarious, others not so much.

Homosexuality has existed as an alternative form of sexuality for about 4 millennia since the destruction of Sodom. Gay Marriage only a few decades.

So? It just means that same-sex marriage finally has legal standing and people who are LGBT can live ordinary and stable lives. Nothing to worry about. Better to be worried about all the guys beating up and killing their wives and girlfriends, and religious fundies raising young daughters to be sold as "wives" for sex.

What makes you think that people who decide to pursue butt sex with other fellows are at all interested in an "ordinary and stable life"?

They choose their lifestyle because they want to live on the edge and outrage people.

So, when you had desires for men, you decided not to act on them?

No , I have no desire to cheese Normative Americans off by taking it in the ass.

You have to be a weirdo to be obsessed with whatever other people who are consenting adults do in bed. Why would any person, regardless of sexual orientation, be concerned with the thoughts of those who somehow are "normative Americans," whatever this term is supposed to mean?

Get over the idea that anyone else gives a damn about what you think and what your obsessions are.

 

[JoeB131]

No, you dumb shitstain.......if you cannot freely conduct business with your own property, you are a slave, not a free human being, and wrapping up that slavery in high sounding bullcrap doesn't make you less a slave...

But that's the point. The same laws that protect consumers from abuse also protect property owners. That's why the baker won't go into his shop tomorrow morning and find that a bunch of hoodlum from down the street have taken it over.

The problem with you libertarians is you have a 10 year olds view of how the world works.

 

[JoeB131]

Riddle me this, Joe. If I want to buy a pig to roast for Christmas, can I force an Islamonazi butcher to do it?

Obviously not, first because "Islamonazis" don't actually exist.

Secondly, because an Islamic Butcher wouldn't have pigs on his his premises.

Since a baker already has all the fixings to make a cake, he really doesn't have much of an excuse.

 

[Polishprince]

Why would any person, regardless of sexual orientation, be concerned with the thoughts of those who somehow are "normative Americans," whatever this term is supposed to mean?.

That's why homosexuals do what they do, to freak out Normative Americans- folks who are just pursuing and engaging in the Normalcy.

Gay Marriage really pisses a lot of people off, and pushes the buttons of NA's.

 

[Polishprince]

Riddle me this, Joe. If I want to buy a pig to roast for Christmas, can I force an Islamonazi butcher to do it?

Obviously not, first because "Islamonazis" don't actually exist.

Secondly, because an Islamic Butcher wouldn't have pigs on his his premises.
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Butchers don't raise their own swine, you know, they order them the wholesaler. If there is a demand at a store for a product, they can request it for delivery.

 

[Lysistrata]

Why would any person, regardless of sexual orientation, be concerned with the thoughts of those who somehow are "normative Americans," whatever this term is supposed to mean?.

That's why homosexuals do what they do, to freak out Normative Americans- folks who are just pursuing and engaging in the Normalcy.

Gay Marriage really pisses a lot of people off, and pushes the buttons of NA's.

But who gives a damn? If you don't like it, don't do it.

"NAs"??? Hilarious. Is this what the twits call themselves now?

 

[2aguy]

No, you dumb shitstain.......if you cannot freely conduct business with your own property, you are a slave, not a free human being, and wrapping up that slavery in high sounding bullcrap doesn't make you less a slave...

But that's the point. The same laws that protect consumers from abuse also protect property owners. That's why the baker won't go into his shop tomorrow morning and find that a bunch of hoodlum from down the street have taken it over.

The problem with you libertarians is you have a 10 year olds view of how the world works.

wrong....if you are forced to work against your will, you are a slave. And criminals invading a shop and a baker refusing to bake a cake is weak, even for someone as dumb as you.....

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

does selling a gun to a murderer mean a "Christian" gun store owner participated in the murder?

Never ever eat a cake that you had to sue the Baker to make for you.

 

[Polishprince]

Why would any person, regardless of sexual orientation, be concerned with the thoughts of those who somehow are "normative Americans," whatever this term is supposed to mean?.

That's why homosexuals do what they do, to freak out Normative Americans- folks who are just pursuing and engaging in the Normalcy.

Gay Marriage really pisses a lot of people off, and pushes the buttons of NA's.

But who gives a damn? If you don't like it, don't do it.

"NAs"??? Hilarious. Is this what the twits call themselves now?

"NA" is short for Normative Americans.

Homosexuals care. And if the NA's didn't get upset about Gay Marriage, homosexuals would lose interest and look for something else to honk off their normal neighbors.

That's why a big fuss is made about allowing Men in Dresses into the nation's ladies rooms. Homosexuals weren't expecting so much acceptance of their silliness, so they had to crank it up to a new level.

 

[JoeB131]

That's why homosexuals do what they do, to freak out Normative Americans- folks who are just pursuing and engaging in the Normalcy.

Gay Marriage really pisses a lot of people off, and pushes the buttons of NA's.

Where are these "Normal" Americans you talk about... frankly, Normal Americans love their drugs, their booze, their cigarettes and their porn... they really don't have any business telling anyone else how to live their life.

wrong....if you are forced to work against your will, you are a slave. And criminals invading a shop and a baker refusing to bake a cake is weak, even for someone as dumb as you.....

Not at all... you guys claim you hate government except for the parts that protect you.

So here's a simple enough solution. No public accommodation laws, but if an angry mob wants to loot your business because you are kind of an asshole, it's your own darned fault.

Me. I prefer a system of laws that protect both the vendor and the buyer.

 

[boedicca]

does selling a gun to a murderer mean a "Christian" gun store owner participated in the murder?

No. Your logic circuits are misfiring.

Marriage is an act. A gun is an inert object.

Think about it and try again.

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

The baker knew who was wanting the cake and because of the baker's religious belief, wanted nothing to do with it.

Does this Christian gun store owner know whether or not the purchaser is going to commit a murder?

These are small details I don't think the OP anticipated. Clearly the baker didn't want to work on something that violated his personal beliefs. What's implied by the gun shop owner analogy is he (gun shop owner) is okay with people murdering others with his guns. That's an absurd fallacious leap no right minded person would make.

 

[JoeB131]

No. Your logic circuits are misfiring.

Marriage is an act. A gun is an inert object.

Think about it and try again.

A cake is an inert object. Not an act.

So if a cake seller can claim they are participating in a wedding, a gun seller is participating in gun crime.

 

[JoeB131]

These are small details I don't think the OP anticipated. Clearly the baker didn't want to work on something that violated his personal beliefs. What's implied by the gun shop owner analogy is he (gun shop owner) is okay with people murdering others with his guns. That's an absurd fallacious leap no right minded person would make.

The gun industry fights every last regulation, rule and law to make it harder for criminals and the insane to get guns. When there's a mass shooting, the NRA rushes out and threatens Congress if they even dare think about passing background checks.

 

[Lysistrata]

Why would any person, regardless of sexual orientation, be concerned with the thoughts of those who somehow are "normative Americans," whatever this term is supposed to mean?.

That's why homosexuals do what they do, to freak out Normative Americans- folks who are just pursuing and engaging in the Normalcy.

Gay Marriage really pisses a lot of people off, and pushes the buttons of NA's.

But who gives a damn? If you don't like it, don't do it.

"NAs"??? Hilarious. Is this what the twits call themselves now?

"NA" is short for Normative Americans.

Homosexuals care. And if the NA's didn't get upset about Gay Marriage, homosexuals would lose interest and look for something else to honk off their normal neighbors.

That's why a big fuss is made about allowing Men in Dresses into the nation's ladies rooms. Homosexuals weren't expecting so much acceptance of their silliness, so they had to crank it up to a new level.

It's a really stupid term. There is no such thing. And nobody of any orientation lives his or her life to piss off some jerk who probably is a total stranger, and who likely is sexually insecure.

 

[2aguy]

That's why homosexuals do what they do, to freak out Normative Americans- folks who are just pursuing and engaging in the Normalcy.

Gay Marriage really pisses a lot of people off, and pushes the buttons of NA's.

Where are these "Normal" Americans you talk about... frankly, Normal Americans love their drugs, their booze, their cigarettes and their porn... they really don't have any business telling anyone else how to live their life.

wrong....if you are forced to work against your will, you are a slave. And criminals invading a shop and a baker refusing to bake a cake is weak, even for someone as dumb as you.....

Not at all... you guys claim you hate government except for the parts that protect you.

So here's a simple enough solution. No public accommodation laws, but if an angry mob wants to loot your business because you are kind of an asshole, it's your own darned fault.

Me. I prefer a system of laws that protect both the vendor and the buyer.

You really need to work on that, it doesn't even come close ........

The jim crow of the democrat party that kept businesses from serving Black Americans needed to be ended, but not by forcing people to become slaves......we are trying to end it no matter how hard you leftists try to keep it....

 

[JoeB131]

The jim crow of the democrat party that kept businesses from serving Black Americans needed to be ended, but not by forcing people to become slaves......we are trying to end it no matter how hard you leftists try to keep it....

But that's exactly what it did. It forced white people who were racists to serve black folks they didn't want to serve.

These businesses didn't want to serve blacks... they supported the laws and lynched any pesky Northerners..

And when the National Democratic Party finally told these racists they weren't welcome, the GOP Took them with open arms.

 

[2aguy]

The jim crow of the democrat party that kept businesses from serving Black Americans needed to be ended, but not by forcing people to become slaves......we are trying to end it no matter how hard you leftists try to keep it....

But that's exactly what it did. It forced white people who were racists to serve black folks they didn't want to serve.

These businesses didn't want to serve blacks... they supported the laws and lynched any pesky Northerners..

And when the National Democratic Party finally told these racists they weren't welcome, the GOP Took them with open arms.

No, moron......all they had to do was stop the democrats from forcing businesses to not serve Black Americans....jim crow laws, created by democrats, kept people from serving Blacks.....by law.....There were plenty of people willing to serve Blacks but people like you at the time said they couldn't...by law.....all that needed to happen was to end that law.....but then people like you can't stand freedom..so you went back and saw that you could use the law again, to attack different people...and that is what you are doing now....

The racists never left the democrat party, it is now the home of racists of all skin colors.....

 

[Polishprince]

And nobody of any orientation lives his or her life to piss off some jerk who probably is a total stranger, and who likely is sexually insecure.

And there is where you would be dead wrong. The Homosexual Orientation was invented to piss squares off, and oftentimes its their old man is who they are looking to make angry first although all of society quickly follows.

No one really "likes" to take it up the ass, but they get satisfaction as it is shocking behavior to their acquaintances and strangers who are vested in Normalcy.

 

[JoeB131]

No, moron......all they had to do was stop the democrats from forcing businesses to not serve Black Americans....jim crow laws, created by democrats, kept people from serving Blacks.....by law.....There were plenty of people willing to serve Blacks but people like you at the time said they couldn't...by law.....

Uh, guy the South was as shit-brained racist then as it is now. If it wasn't, then the PEOPLE would have voted to get rid of Jim Crow.

but then people like you can't stand freedom..so you went back and saw that you could use the law again, to attack different people...and that is what you are doing now....

No, we saw that it was just as right to protect the rights of gays as it is to protect the rights of blacks.