If this is true, we are in trouble...

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Sweden's actually VERY choosy about who they let immigrate, as I understand it.

And if you were Sweden, would YOU judge this jerk as a valuable acquisition?

Is that why Sweden has more Muslims percentage wise than the USA, because they're "So choosy" about "Immigrants". Oh yeah, really?

No, it's because of their population compared to ours. We have half the percentage of Muslims they do but well more than twice as many per capita. They don't even have 10 million people in Sweden. We have over 7 million people just in NYC.

Leftists get all pissy when you point out the differences between our country and Sweden, particularly the difference in population. They understand so little about what they spout that they really can't grasp why the numbers make a difference.

Japan, Russia, and Germany have quite big populations, each have national healthcare, and spend far less than the USA on healthcare.

Any questions?

Like the old saying goes, you get what you pay for:

View attachment 225059

If we get better healthcare, than Germany, or Japan, how come they live longer, exactly?

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

So move your whining ass to Sweden

Sweden's actually VERY choosy about who they let immigrate, as I understand it.

And if you were Sweden, would YOU judge this jerk as a valuable acquisition?

Is that why Sweden has more Muslims percentage wise than the USA, because they're "So choosy" about "Immigrants". Oh yeah, really?

No, it's because of their population compared to ours. We have half the percentage of Muslims they do but well more than twice as many per capita. They don't even have 10 million people in Sweden. We have over 7 million people just in NYC.

Yeah, the U.S.A has more "Minorities" than Western Europe, and Western Europe has more "Minorities" than Eastern Europe, this is because this is a SYMPTOM of Capitalism. This is because Capitalists tend to demand more labor, and cheaper labor.

The U.S.A always being more Capitalist than Western Europe, and Western Europe being more Capitalist than Eastern Europe is EXACTLY why there are more "Minorities" towards the West.

Many parts of Eastern Europe in the 1990's were basically 0 Immigrant nations, now-a-days there's literally millions of Muslims in Moscow, alone, and over a million Ukrainians in Poland, and well other countries too have seen similar, following a larger degree of "Immigration" following Capitalism.

Now, Russia's not a heck of a lot richer than it was in 1990 now-a-days, so it seems it's not even a sign of wealth, it is a sign of Capitalism to bring in the poor, huddled masses for "Cheap Labor".

Actually minority growth is more of Democrat policies than capitalism. Democrats have fixed it so these people could have endless size families whether they could support them or not. Immigrants come here for jobs and to have anchor babies and get on welfare that way. Kids get SNAP's, free school lunches, free medical care, and the ability for the parents to apply for HUD.

After the black invasion of our suburb, at least a dozen new daycare businesses opened up, and it's government subsidies why they can afford them.

Blacks were mostly brought to the USA to produce profits for less, and Mexicans are hired by Capitalists to produce profits for less.

Those are the 2 biggest minority groups, and neither are on arrival typically were getting welfare much.

Illegal immigrants aren't supposed to be getting all these benefits, although their kids is a different story.

In fact, Illegals work more often than Americans.

This Is a Bombshell About Illegal Immigrants' Work Habits

In a labor force snapshot from 2012-2013, Borjas found that about 87% of male illegal immigrants worked, compared to 74% of American men. Even after controlling for the fact that this immigrant population was likely to be made up of younger men, he still found a 10-percentage-point difference between the two groups.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Sweden's actually VERY choosy about who they let immigrate, as I understand it.

And if you were Sweden, would YOU judge this jerk as a valuable acquisition?

Is that why Sweden has more Muslims percentage wise than the USA, because they're "So choosy" about "Immigrants". Oh yeah, really?

No, it's because of their population compared to ours. We have half the percentage of Muslims they do but well more than twice as many per capita. They don't even have 10 million people in Sweden. We have over 7 million people just in NYC.

Yeah, the U.S.A has more "Minorities" than Western Europe, and Western Europe has more "Minorities" than Eastern Europe, this is because this is a SYMPTOM of Capitalism. This is because Capitalists tend to demand more labor, and cheaper labor.

The U.S.A always being more Capitalist than Western Europe, and Western Europe being more Capitalist than Eastern Europe is EXACTLY why there are more "Minorities" towards the West.

Many parts of Eastern Europe in the 1990's were basically 0 Immigrant nations, now-a-days there's literally millions of Muslims in Moscow, alone, and over a million Ukrainians in Poland, and well other countries too have seen similar, following a larger degree of "Immigration" following Capitalism.

Now, Russia's not a heck of a lot richer than it was in 1990 now-a-days, so it seems it's not even a sign of wealth, it is a sign of Capitalism to bring in the poor, huddled masses for "Cheap Labor".

Actually minority growth is more of Democrat policies than capitalism. Democrats have fixed it so these people could have endless size families whether they could support them or not. Immigrants come here for jobs and to have anchor babies and get on welfare that way. Kids get SNAP's, free school lunches, free medical care, and the ability for the parents to apply for HUD.

After the black invasion of our suburb, at least a dozen new daycare businesses opened up, and it's government subsidies why they can afford them.

Blacks were mostly brought to the USA to produce profits for less, and Mexicans are hired by Capitalists to produce profits for less.

Those are the 2 biggest minority groups, and neither are on arrival typically were getting welfare much.

Illegal immigrants aren't supposed to be getting all these benefits, although their kids is a different story.

In fact, Illegals work more often than Americans.

This Is a Bombshell About Illegal Immigrants' Work Habits

In a labor force snapshot from 2012-2013, Borjas found that about 87% of male illegal immigrants worked, compared to 74% of American men. Even after controlling for the fact that this immigrant population was likely to be made up of younger men, he still found a 10-percentage-point difference between the two groups.

Receiving welfare and working are irrelevant. The point I am making is that they do (illegals and legals alike) get welfare because of the children. In fact, most legal immigrants are on some sort of government assistant program.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Is that why Sweden has more Muslims percentage wise than the USA, because they're "So choosy" about "Immigrants". Oh yeah, really?

No, it's because of their population compared to ours. We have half the percentage of Muslims they do but well more than twice as many per capita. They don't even have 10 million people in Sweden. We have over 7 million people just in NYC.

Leftists get all pissy when you point out the differences between our country and Sweden, particularly the difference in population. They understand so little about what they spout that they really can't grasp why the numbers make a difference.

Japan, Russia, and Germany have quite big populations, each have national healthcare, and spend far less than the USA on healthcare.

Any questions?

Like the old saying goes, you get what you pay for:

View attachment 225059

If we get better healthcare, than Germany, or Japan, how come they live longer, exactly?

There are a number of reasons.

First off, we have more vehicle deaths than most any country in the world. Last time I checked, we were rated second place.

We have a huge drug problem in the US. An increasing number of OD deaths compared to the rest of the world, and like vehicle deaths, many are younger people which brings down our lifespan expectation.

Along with the drug problem are drug gangs. This is a problem in many major cities across the US, but most prominently in places like Chicago where dozens of shootings happen every weekend. I live in Cleveland, I understand this. Drive-by shootings kill many innocents as well.

Obesity is another cause. We are the fattest country in the world and that decreases lifespan.

American women are in the workforce. This is a factor in avoiding prenatal care. Work is important to all of us, so getting to work is more important than the success of having a child in good health.

Some countries have different standards in infant mortality. In other words, if a baby in the US takes one breath and dies, it's considered a loss of life. In other countries, a baby with health problems is not considered a life until a certain age. So if a child passes away from some medical condition, that child is not considered a loss of life.

If you think of it, most of the people that die in this country are on some government program such as Medicare or Medicaid. These are social programs or social medicine as you might wish to call it. But because many of our people die on some social program doesn't mean all social medical programs are terrible.

 

[Lesh]

These statistics are claimed to be true:
1. 50% of American wage earners earn less than $30k.
2. 63% of Americans can’t afford a $1,000 emergency.
3. 80% of American workers live pay check to pay check.
4. Since 1973 American productivity has increased by 77%, yet hourly pay has grown by 12%. If the minimum wage was tracked to productivity, it would be over $20 an hour today.
5. 41% of American workers earn less than $12 per hour, with most without employer provided HC.
6. Since 2008 the federal government and the Fed created $26 trillion out of nothing. Was any of this enormous sum spent on infrastructure, public education, universal HC, bail out 5.1 million people who lost their homes?

Not a pretty picture for the poor and middle class. Hopefully things are improving or we are headed for big trouble.

Not sure how accurate those stats are, but things have changed since I was a young man starting out.

Back then, I was taught:

1 week's pay is for housing. The next week's is for food and bills. The next 2, you either spend or save.

It doesn't work like that now. It still does for me, somehow, but not for many.

Certainly not for anyone in the position I was in back then.

I was making $1150/wk back then..that included side jobs.

Hasn't worked that way since the early 80s...ya know the "Reagan Revolution"

 

[eagle1462010]

So now I'm hearing that the entire nation has to change for the benefit of one retard who chooses to live in one of the most expensive states in the Union.

Most of the Nation is SUB-PAR, I've had your food, and it sucks, I've seen your parks, and architecture, and it sucks.


You are a bunch of thrifty Scots, and some thirfty Anglos, and Germans thrown in.

You love CHEAP Junk, OMG I saved me 1 dollar on a Burger at McDonald's, OMG I saved me 3 dollars on Pants at WalMart, OMG I saved me 2 dollars on Pizza from PapaJohns, OMG I saved me 50 cents on a Chicken Sandwich at Chick-A-Fila.


That's a big reason why everything you have kind of sucks.

Your education systems are supposed to be terrible.


I don't like ANYTHING about "Fly-Over country"

Well don't come here then.Stay in New York. LOL

We don't need any dang Fascist here.

Well, Capitalism is being tried in America with terrible results, Communism has been tried in Russia with terrible results.

So, obviously something in between is the anwser, no?

You know something similar to Fascism, no?

/——-/ If Socialism is so good and Capitalism is so bad, then why isn't the Caravan heading to Venezuela....?

It's one dimensional thinking to think that Venezuela a Communist style country, somehow represents everything other than Capitalism.

News-flash, Franco, and Hitler two Fascist type guys, both achieved faster economic growth than any U.S.A Presidents of the 20th Century.

And how did it end for those Fascists pricks.....................

 

[eagle1462010]

Communism is terrible too, and while Communism might lead to slightly worse economic results than our Capitalism, the Communists never had a ton of jobs going to foreigners who disrespect them like Illegals from Mexico, or peoples in China getting "Our Capitalist Jobs".

As for "Social Democracy" like what they have in Sweden, they actually pay less for healthcare, and for colleges because it is an extension of the government who helps people pay for it.

So, I don't know how Social Democracy is inferior, perhaps inferior for the rich, and superior for everybody else, that sounds about right.

So move your whining ass to Sweden

Sweden's actually VERY choosy about who they let immigrate, as I understand it.

And if you were Sweden, would YOU judge this jerk as a valuable acquisition?

Is that why Sweden has more Muslims percentage wise than the USA, because they're "So choosy" about "Immigrants". Oh yeah, really?

No, it's because of their population compared to ours. We have half the percentage of Muslims they do but well more than twice as many per capita. They don't even have 10 million people in Sweden. We have over 7 million people just in NYC.

Yeah, the U.S.A has more "Minorities" than Western Europe, and Western Europe has more "Minorities" than Eastern Europe, this is because this is a SYMPTOM of Capitalism. This is because Capitalists tend to demand more labor, and cheaper labor.

The U.S.A always being more Capitalist than Western Europe, and Western Europe being more Capitalist than Eastern Europe is EXACTLY why there are more "Minorities" towards the West.

Many parts of Eastern Europe in the 1990's were basically 0 Immigrant nations, now-a-days there's literally millions of Muslims in Moscow, alone, and over a million Ukrainians in Poland, and well other countries too have seen similar, following a larger degree of "Immigration" following Capitalism.

Now, Russia's not a heck of a lot richer than it was in 1990 now-a-days, so it seems it's not even a sign of wealth, it is a sign of Capitalism to bring in the poor, huddled masses for "Cheap Labor".

Aka they run to where the jobs are..............when their countries are total shitholes........Brought to you by Capitalism...............

You still haven't explained how you deal with the small business owners.

 

[eagle1462010]

The quality of life has gone down the tubes.........because the prices of everything costs more............brought to you by the gov't printing press of the dollar...............Massive creation of your currency destroys it's value.............and makes everything go through the roof .............This is not a symptom of Capitalism...........it is a symptom of Globalist money manipulation throughout the world causing debt to explode to Insanity.

This is the time bomb.........and brought to you by politicians who have sold their soul to the buck..............self enrichment and Greed...............destroying the country in the process.......and bending over the working man without a reach around........

End the Fed..........great saying from Ron Paul..........but it will now end itself.........when the world resets.

 

[Cellblock2429]

So move your whining ass to Sweden

Sweden's actually VERY choosy about who they let immigrate, as I understand it.

And if you were Sweden, would YOU judge this jerk as a valuable acquisition?

Is that why Sweden has more Muslims percentage wise than the USA, because they're "So choosy" about "Immigrants". Oh yeah, really?

No, it's because of their population compared to ours. We have half the percentage of Muslims they do but well more than twice as many per capita. They don't even have 10 million people in Sweden. We have over 7 million people just in NYC.

Leftists get all pissy when you point out the differences between our country and Sweden, particularly the difference in population. They understand so little about what they spout that they really can't grasp why the numbers make a difference.

Japan, Russia, and Germany have quite big populations, each have national healthcare, and spend far less than the USA on healthcare.

Any questions?

/-----/ The Japs and Krauts can afford healthcare because their national defense if paid for by the US Taxpayers. Russia is a third world country with a second world army and first world nuclear weapons.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

No, it's because of their population compared to ours. We have half the percentage of Muslims they do but well more than twice as many per capita. They don't even have 10 million people in Sweden. We have over 7 million people just in NYC.

Leftists get all pissy when you point out the differences between our country and Sweden, particularly the difference in population. They understand so little about what they spout that they really can't grasp why the numbers make a difference.

Japan, Russia, and Germany have quite big populations, each have national healthcare, and spend far less than the USA on healthcare.

Any questions?

Like the old saying goes, you get what you pay for:

View attachment 225059

If we get better healthcare, than Germany, or Japan, how come they live longer, exactly?

There are a number of reasons.

First off, we have more vehicle deaths than most any country in the world. Last time I checked, we were rated second place.

We have a huge drug problem in the US. An increasing number of OD deaths compared to the rest of the world, and like vehicle deaths, many are younger people which brings down our lifespan expectation.

Along with the drug problem are drug gangs. This is a problem in many major cities across the US, but most prominently in places like Chicago where dozens of shootings happen every weekend. I live in Cleveland, I understand this. Drive-by shootings kill many innocents as well.

Obesity is another cause. We are the fattest country in the world and that decreases lifespan.

American women are in the workforce. This is a factor in avoiding prenatal care. Work is important to all of us, so getting to work is more important than the success of having a child in good health.

Some countries have different standards in infant mortality. In other words, if a baby in the US takes one breath and dies, it's considered a loss of life. In other countries, a baby with health problems is not considered a life until a certain age. So if a child passes away from some medical condition, that child is not considered a loss of life.

If you think of it, most of the people that die in this country are on some government program such as Medicare or Medicaid. These are social programs or social medicine as you might wish to call it. But because many of our people die on some social program doesn't mean all social medical programs are terrible.

We do have more obesity from a Capitaliat society, junk food is more readily available than in Europe & socialized medicine tries to get people to lose weight as preventive care.

As for car accidents same thing we have a lot less public transit than Europe.

Even Poland now has some faster & better trains than the USA.

We really are a nation behind the times.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Sweden's actually VERY choosy about who they let immigrate, as I understand it.

And if you were Sweden, would YOU judge this jerk as a valuable acquisition?

Is that why Sweden has more Muslims percentage wise than the USA, because they're "So choosy" about "Immigrants". Oh yeah, really?

No, it's because of their population compared to ours. We have half the percentage of Muslims they do but well more than twice as many per capita. They don't even have 10 million people in Sweden. We have over 7 million people just in NYC.

Leftists get all pissy when you point out the differences between our country and Sweden, particularly the difference in population. They understand so little about what they spout that they really can't grasp why the numbers make a difference.

Japan, Russia, and Germany have quite big populations, each have national healthcare, and spend far less than the USA on healthcare.

Any questions?

/-----/ The Japs and Krauts can afford healthcare because their national defense if paid for by the US Taxpayers. Russia is a third world country with a second world army and first world nuclear weapons.

Only problem is the government of Japan & Germany spend less on healthcare per person.

 

[Cellblock2429]

Leftists get all pissy when you point out the differences between our country and Sweden, particularly the difference in population. They understand so little about what they spout that they really can't grasp why the numbers make a difference.

Japan, Russia, and Germany have quite big populations, each have national healthcare, and spend far less than the USA on healthcare.

Any questions?

Like the old saying goes, you get what you pay for:

View attachment 225059

If we get better healthcare, than Germany, or Japan, how come they live longer, exactly?

There are a number of reasons.

First off, we have more vehicle deaths than most any country in the world. Last time I checked, we were rated second place.

We have a huge drug problem in the US. An increasing number of OD deaths compared to the rest of the world, and like vehicle deaths, many are younger people which brings down our lifespan expectation.

Along with the drug problem are drug gangs. This is a problem in many major cities across the US, but most prominently in places like Chicago where dozens of shootings happen every weekend. I live in Cleveland, I understand this. Drive-by shootings kill many innocents as well.

Obesity is another cause. We are the fattest country in the world and that decreases lifespan.

American women are in the workforce. This is a factor in avoiding prenatal care. Work is important to all of us, so getting to work is more important than the success of having a child in good health.

Some countries have different standards in infant mortality. In other words, if a baby in the US takes one breath and dies, it's considered a loss of life. In other countries, a baby with health problems is not considered a life until a certain age. So if a child passes away from some medical condition, that child is not considered a loss of life.

If you think of it, most of the people that die in this country are on some government program such as Medicare or Medicaid. These are social programs or social medicine as you might wish to call it. But because many of our people die on some social program doesn't mean all social medical programs are terrible.

We do have more obesity from a Capitaliat society, junk food is more readily available than in Europe & socialized medicine tries to get people to lose weight as preventive care.

As for car accidents same thing we have a lot less public transit than Europe.

Even Poland now has some faster & better trains than the USA.

We really are a nation behind the times.

/----/ How can you stand living here? Hop the next cruise liner and work your way to Europe where you can live the romantic life of a peasant. Cheese, bread, and wine for every meal.

 

[Cellblock2429]

Is that why Sweden has more Muslims percentage wise than the USA, because they're "So choosy" about "Immigrants". Oh yeah, really?

No, it's because of their population compared to ours. We have half the percentage of Muslims they do but well more than twice as many per capita. They don't even have 10 million people in Sweden. We have over 7 million people just in NYC.

Leftists get all pissy when you point out the differences between our country and Sweden, particularly the difference in population. They understand so little about what they spout that they really can't grasp why the numbers make a difference.

Japan, Russia, and Germany have quite big populations, each have national healthcare, and spend far less than the USA on healthcare.

Any questions?

/-----/ The Japs and Krauts can afford healthcare because their national defense if paid for by the US Taxpayers. Russia is a third world country with a second world army and first world nuclear weapons.

Only problem is the government od Japan & Germany spend less healthcare per person.

/----/ Only problem is Japan and Germany have tort reform. With far fewer medical malpractice lawsuits medical care is significantly lower. But the American Trial Lawyers own the DNC.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

No, it's because of their population compared to ours. We have half the percentage of Muslims they do but well more than twice as many per capita. They don't even have 10 million people in Sweden. We have over 7 million people just in NYC.

Leftists get all pissy when you point out the differences between our country and Sweden, particularly the difference in population. They understand so little about what they spout that they really can't grasp why the numbers make a difference.

Japan, Russia, and Germany have quite big populations, each have national healthcare, and spend far less than the USA on healthcare.

Any questions?

/-----/ The Japs and Krauts can afford healthcare because their national defense if paid for by the US Taxpayers. Russia is a third world country with a second world army and first world nuclear weapons.

Only problem is the government od Japan & Germany spend less healthcare per person.

/----/ Only problem is Japan and Germany have tort reform. With far fewer medical malpractice lawsuits medical care is significantly lower. But the American Trial Lawyers own the DNC.

Yeah well we actually do have National healthcare just the most dumb form of it.

People including illegals pay untill they are broke then the US government foots the ER tab.

Basically people were going broke & the government footing top rates.

While real national healthcare has preventive care to try & stop people from getting costly sicknesses.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Japan, Russia, and Germany have quite big populations, each have national healthcare, and spend far less than the USA on healthcare.

Any questions?

Like the old saying goes, you get what you pay for:

View attachment 225059

If we get better healthcare, than Germany, or Japan, how come they live longer, exactly?

There are a number of reasons.

First off, we have more vehicle deaths than most any country in the world. Last time I checked, we were rated second place.

We have a huge drug problem in the US. An increasing number of OD deaths compared to the rest of the world, and like vehicle deaths, many are younger people which brings down our lifespan expectation.

Along with the drug problem are drug gangs. This is a problem in many major cities across the US, but most prominently in places like Chicago where dozens of shootings happen every weekend. I live in Cleveland, I understand this. Drive-by shootings kill many innocents as well.

Obesity is another cause. We are the fattest country in the world and that decreases lifespan.

American women are in the workforce. This is a factor in avoiding prenatal care. Work is important to all of us, so getting to work is more important than the success of having a child in good health.

Some countries have different standards in infant mortality. In other words, if a baby in the US takes one breath and dies, it's considered a loss of life. In other countries, a baby with health problems is not considered a life until a certain age. So if a child passes away from some medical condition, that child is not considered a loss of life.

If you think of it, most of the people that die in this country are on some government program such as Medicare or Medicaid. These are social programs or social medicine as you might wish to call it. But because many of our people die on some social program doesn't mean all social medical programs are terrible.

We do have more obesity from a Capitaliat society, junk food is more readily available than in Europe & socialized medicine tries to get people to lose weight as preventive care.

As for car accidents same thing we have a lot less public transit than Europe.

Even Poland now has some faster & better trains than the USA.

We really are a nation behind the times.

/----/ How can you stand living here? Hop the next cruise liner and work your way to Europe where you can live the romantic life of a peasant. Cheese, bread, and wine for every meal.

New York was basically a pan- Europa. Before the Blacks & Hispanics moved in especially.
Italian restaurants, Irish pubs, Polish, Greek, Jewish, Portuguese, Hungarian, Ukrainian & German foods.

We aren't really thrifty Scots land like the rest of the US.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Most of the Nation is SUB-PAR, I've had your food, and it sucks, I've seen your parks, and architecture, and it sucks.


You are a bunch of thrifty Scots, and some thirfty Anglos, and Germans thrown in.

You love CHEAP Junk, OMG I saved me 1 dollar on a Burger at McDonald's, OMG I saved me 3 dollars on Pants at WalMart, OMG I saved me 2 dollars on Pizza from PapaJohns, OMG I saved me 50 cents on a Chicken Sandwich at Chick-A-Fila.


That's a big reason why everything you have kind of sucks.

Your education systems are supposed to be terrible.


I don't like ANYTHING about "Fly-Over country"

Well don't come here then.Stay in New York. LOL

We don't need any dang Fascist here.

Well, Capitalism is being tried in America with terrible results, Communism has been tried in Russia with terrible results.

So, obviously something in between is the anwser, no?

You know something similar to Fascism, no?

/——-/ If Socialism is so good and Capitalism is so bad, then why isn't the Caravan heading to Venezuela....?

It's one dimensional thinking to think that Venezuela a Communist style country, somehow represents everything other than Capitalism.

News-flash, Franco, and Hitler two Fascist type guys, both achieved faster economic growth than any U.S.A Presidents of the 20th Century.

And how did it end for those Fascists pricks.....................

Mussolini killed less than Churchill, FDR, Truman, LBJ, W Bush, & Abe Lincoln.

Why was it so important to get rid of him?

Maybe he was a threat to the establishment?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

No, it's because of their population compared to ours. We have half the percentage of Muslims they do but well more than twice as many per capita. They don't even have 10 million people in Sweden. We have over 7 million people just in NYC.

Leftists get all pissy when you point out the differences between our country and Sweden, particularly the difference in population. They understand so little about what they spout that they really can't grasp why the numbers make a difference.

Japan, Russia, and Germany have quite big populations, each have national healthcare, and spend far less than the USA on healthcare.

Any questions?

/-----/ The Japs and Krauts can afford healthcare because their national defense if paid for by the US Taxpayers. Russia is a third world country with a second world army and first world nuclear weapons.

Only problem is the government od Japan & Germany spend less healthcare per person.

/----/ Only problem is Japan and Germany have tort reform. With far fewer medical malpractice lawsuits medical care is significantly lower. But the American Trial Lawyers own the DNC.

Which is one reason why the government could never run healthcare. You wouldn't be able to sue the government.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Leftists get all pissy when you point out the differences between our country and Sweden, particularly the difference in population. They understand so little about what they spout that they really can't grasp why the numbers make a difference.

Japan, Russia, and Germany have quite big populations, each have national healthcare, and spend far less than the USA on healthcare.

Any questions?

/-----/ The Japs and Krauts can afford healthcare because their national defense if paid for by the US Taxpayers. Russia is a third world country with a second world army and first world nuclear weapons.

Only problem is the government od Japan & Germany spend less healthcare per person.

/----/ Only problem is Japan and Germany have tort reform. With far fewer medical malpractice lawsuits medical care is significantly lower. But the American Trial Lawyers own the DNC.

Which is one reason why the government could never run healthcare. You wouldn't be able to sue the government.

Yeah, we're just doing great.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Is that why Sweden has more Muslims percentage wise than the USA, because they're "So choosy" about "Immigrants". Oh yeah, really?

No, it's because of their population compared to ours. We have half the percentage of Muslims they do but well more than twice as many per capita. They don't even have 10 million people in Sweden. We have over 7 million people just in NYC.

Leftists get all pissy when you point out the differences between our country and Sweden, particularly the difference in population. They understand so little about what they spout that they really can't grasp why the numbers make a difference.

Japan, Russia, and Germany have quite big populations, each have national healthcare, and spend far less than the USA on healthcare.

Any questions?

/-----/ The Japs and Krauts can afford healthcare because their national defense if paid for by the US Taxpayers. Russia is a third world country with a second world army and first world nuclear weapons.

Only problem is the government of Japan & Germany spend less on healthcare per person.

Government is slowly trying to get more control over the people--particularly the left. The only two things stopping them from having total control over us is healthcare and energy. Once government has totally control over those two things, they have the ability to have total control over all of us.

Say goodbye to cigarettes and the massive taxes that fund all sorts of things. Say goodbye to alcohol as well. Fast food places, well......they'll just have to go out of business. And who knows, maybe daily internet and cable television blackouts so people will have to go out and get some exercise. Government will have total control over your life.

It can't happen here? Well just look at what they do in Japan that you keep bringing up:

Japan, Seeking Trim Waists, Measures Millions
By NORIMITSU ONISHIJUNE 13, 2008

Japan, Seeking Trim Waists, Measures Millions

Oh, so you're a person who comes from a fat family and can't lose weight? Too bad, you die!

Obese patients and smokers banned from routine surgery in 'most severe ever' rationing in the NHS

Yep, this is exactly what I want my America to look like.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Leftists get all pissy when you point out the differences between our country and Sweden, particularly the difference in population. They understand so little about what they spout that they really can't grasp why the numbers make a difference.

Japan, Russia, and Germany have quite big populations, each have national healthcare, and spend far less than the USA on healthcare.

Any questions?

Like the old saying goes, you get what you pay for:

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If we get better healthcare, than Germany, or Japan, how come they live longer, exactly?

There are a number of reasons.

First off, we have more vehicle deaths than most any country in the world. Last time I checked, we were rated second place.

We have a huge drug problem in the US. An increasing number of OD deaths compared to the rest of the world, and like vehicle deaths, many are younger people which brings down our lifespan expectation.

Along with the drug problem are drug gangs. This is a problem in many major cities across the US, but most prominently in places like Chicago where dozens of shootings happen every weekend. I live in Cleveland, I understand this. Drive-by shootings kill many innocents as well.

Obesity is another cause. We are the fattest country in the world and that decreases lifespan.

American women are in the workforce. This is a factor in avoiding prenatal care. Work is important to all of us, so getting to work is more important than the success of having a child in good health.

Some countries have different standards in infant mortality. In other words, if a baby in the US takes one breath and dies, it's considered a loss of life. In other countries, a baby with health problems is not considered a life until a certain age. So if a child passes away from some medical condition, that child is not considered a loss of life.

If you think of it, most of the people that die in this country are on some government program such as Medicare or Medicaid. These are social programs or social medicine as you might wish to call it. But because many of our people die on some social program doesn't mean all social medical programs are terrible.

We do have more obesity from a Capitaliat society, junk food is more readily available than in Europe & socialized medicine tries to get people to lose weight as preventive care.

As for car accidents same thing we have a lot less public transit than Europe.

Even Poland now has some faster & better trains than the USA.

We really are a nation behind the times.

Well when I want government telling me what to eat and how to travel, I'll move to one of those countries. But I like freedom. Nobody has more freedom than the US. So I'll choose freedom over anything.