If we have a shutdown, it will be because Reid 'holds the American people hostage

[Yurt]

no one is saying otherwise

funding however....different story as obamacare failed to have a provision for it

No it isn't a different story....ACA is mandatory spending and thus won't be affected by a shutdown.

nope...try again

 

[NYcarbineer]

somebody please explain to NYC that the house is not a rubber stamp for the senate or wh

thank you in advance

You said he had the votes. Why isn't Obamacare then defunded?

Were you lying, or just ignorant? You've regularly displayed both characteristics here...

...which one is it this time?

in the house he does you fucking jackass

if the dems had the votes to fund it, why isn't obamacare funded?

when i throw your logic back at you, you are stumped and don't know what to do. debating you is like debating a five year old.

If you understood how government worked you wouldn't keep making a fool of yourself.

 

[NYcarbineer]

It is obamashithead and the dimwits that have screwed this country by pushing thru aca the cowardly way.

What's the cowardly way? Getting past both houses of congress, getting presidential approval, and getting verified by the supreme court, and then surviving a presidential re-election?

If that's not enough hurdles to jump over how many are? Do you want it ratified by the UN or something???

The collective denial-of-reality dementia of the right has reached the point where anything that happens that they don't like must have been the result of some sort of wrongdoing.

 

[The T]

It is a fact. Because you do not wish to believe it, does not alter the fact that a vote was taken to keep the government open. That bill was given to the Senate.

If government shuts down, it will be because Reid will not compromise and work with the House.

He [Reid] IS holding America hostage.

The senate is not going to work with the House on this. Obamacare has already been to the SCOTUS. You guys are on a fool's errand for the silly House Republicans.

THE SCOTUS has no relevance to this issue. They ruled that the Government can tax the people and that Obamacare is a tax.

This is not a tax issue, but one of funding.

The HOUSE is not going to work with the SENATE on this. They have been told by their constituents that they are to minimize the damage to this country that is Obamacare. They have voted to keep the government fully funded and working.

What more is required of them? They are under no obligation to fund laws that harmful to the majority of American citizens.

And seeing the Court rewrote the damn thing.

 

[The T]

Nobody believes this garbage. Not even you extremist teabaggers belaieve it but you continue to say it over and over as if doing so will make it true.

Stop.

It is a fact. Because you do not wish to believe it, does not alter the fact that a vote was taken to keep the government open. That bill was given to the Senate.

If government shuts down, it will be because Reid will not compromise and work with the House.

He [Reid] IS holding America hostage.

The senate is not going to work with the House on this. Obamacare has already been to the SCOTUS. You guys are on a fool's errand for the silly House Republicans.

So? The Congress can still alter or repeal laws no matter WHAT the SCOTUS has stated. They do NOT have the final word.

Learn it, Live it, Know it. (A refresher in Civics 101 would also be helpful).

 

[The T]

It is a fact. Because you do not wish to believe it, does not alter the fact that a vote was taken to keep the government open. That bill was given to the Senate.

If government shuts down, it will be because Reid will not compromise and work with the House.

He [Reid] IS holding America hostage.

He has no obligation whatsoever to 'work with' the House on a matter that is already settled.

It doesn't seem settled, do you think Obama will step up and show some leadership or is he going to remain more hostile to American Republicans than he has with the gay killing, American kidnapping and American killing Iran?

Indeed. Obama is willing to negotiate with terrorists but NOT with Republicans or the people.

 

[The T]

Nobody believes this garbage. Not even you extremist teabaggers belaieve it but you continue to say it over and over as if doing so will make it true.

Stop.

It is a fact. Because you do not wish to believe it, does not alter the fact that a vote was taken to keep the government open. That bill was given to the Senate.

If government shuts down, it will be because Reid will not compromise and work with the House.

He [Reid] IS holding America hostage.

Yes he is. No two ways about it. The House has been working overtime into the weekend. The silly bastards in the Senate didn't even show up until 2PM today.

 

[Hoffstra]

Reid has let the Senate vote on the House bill, twice already.

Boehner, refuses to let the House vote on the Senate bill.

why? cause he knows he would lose.

this is why the GOP is responsible for the shutdown.

 

[Yurt]

Reid has let the Senate vote on the House bill, twice already.

Boehner, refuses to let the House vote on the Senate bill.

why? cause he knows he would lose.

this is why the GOP is responsible for the shutdown.

nope, the senate refuses to negotiate, they are responsible

 

[Hoffstra]

nope, the senate refuses to negotiate, they are responsible

why won't Boehner let the House vote on the Senate bill?

 

[Yurt]

You said he had the votes. Why isn't Obamacare then defunded?

Were you lying, or just ignorant? You've regularly displayed both characteristics here...

...which one is it this time?

in the house he does you fucking jackass

if the dems had the votes to fund it, why isn't obamacare funded?

when i throw your logic back at you, you are stumped and don't know what to do. debating you is like debating a five year old.

If you understood how government worked you wouldn't keep making a fool of yourself.

lmao...i throw your logic back at you and you claim i don't know how the government works...nice self pwn retard