If we have a shutdown, it will be because Reid 'holds the American people hostage

[NYcarbineer]

How can you have a functonal government when the majority has NO power?

poor liberal crying because the pubs have a majority in the house

Then why won't Boehner allow a vote on the Senate bill, without the Obamacare provisions in it?

 

[Hoffstra]

Then why won't Boehner allow a vote on the Senate bill, without the Obamacare provisions in it?

got a link for this?

 

[eagle1462010]

The House needs to submit a CR that funds all legal programs and laws.

not pick and choose which ones they want to fund.

if they are legally and supposed to get funding, they should be funded.

The GOP is holding 99% of the nation's funding hostage over one program.

Looney tunes.

We are still receiving Revenues and the Shut Down only refers to the Gap which we have to borrow. On the deficit it's 50 Billion a month. Add the Interest to the Debt add another 50 BILLION a month. We have 33% unfunded per month per Revenues.

But wait. We need 950 or so Billion for 2 months...........As the Treasury has been cooking the books, aka creative financing, for months.

No one on these threads will answer the WHY ON THAT ONE........I've mentioned it on several threads..............Why did they delay this battle instead of already having the battle on it this summer when we actually ran out of borrowed money.

Again, why only a temp fix instead of a one year agreement...................

 

[eagle1462010]

How can you have a functonal government when the majority has NO power?

poor liberal crying because the pubs have a majority in the house

Then why won't Boehner allow a vote on the Senate bill, without the Obamacare provisions in it?

It's dead in the water anyway...................Just as the House bill was dead in the water upon arrival.............

Who cares if they vote on it.................They will not pass it, so they are proposing new bills, which of course Reid will not accept................

So, neither side budges, neither side wants any compromise...............Leading to the partial Gov't Shutdown, that last was stated to really occur on Oct 17th as they are still cooking the books...............

 

[NYcarbineer]

Wrong its on the GOP. If they don't like Obamacare win both houses and repeal it like it should be done its the law it should be funded that is how America works. The Tea party is holding America Hostage. Does everyone in this realize a Gov Shutdown will cost more then just funding everything?

let's see...the gop wants to fund everything except one program and the WH and senate dems won't budge one bit and that means it is the republicans holding america hostage...

how can you be so stupid?

Wrong.

The GOP doesn't have the votes to defund Obamacare so they are attempting undemocratically thwart the will of the majority.

 

[Steven_R]

If only there were some way to fix the Constitution to prevent that budgetary thwarting from happening again, as it has many times in the past. An amendment process if you will...

 

[eagle1462010]

Federal Spending by the Numbers 2013

FIX THE DATA ON THAT SITE.................

We are screwed people.

Shut the damn thing down and keep it down until we have a Balanced Budget including Interest Spending.

 

[eagle1462010]

Debt to the Penny (Daily History Search Application)

go to debt to the penny

search the debt for the entire year of 2013

and look at the results

 

[eagle1462010]

Government - Interest Expense on the Debt Outstanding

Interest on the debt at 395 BILLION this year as reported by the Treasury Dept.

I guess heritage got that graph wrong, as they had it at a little over 200 BILLION at the site I listed...

About the Debt to the penny site............aka Cooking the Books...................

In a Nation of Lies, Truth is Treason. Which is why we need 950 BILLION or so for 2 months.

 

[Yurt]

Wrong its on the GOP. If they don't like Obamacare win both houses and repeal it like it should be done its the law it should be funded that is how America works. The Tea party is holding America Hostage. Does everyone in this realize a Gov Shutdown will cost more then just funding everything?

let's see...the gop wants to fund everything except one program and the WH and senate dems won't budge one bit and that means it is the republicans holding america hostage...

how can you be so stupid?

Wrong.

The GOP doesn't have the votes to defund Obamacare so they are attempting undemocratically thwart the will of the majority.

sure they do and they are proving it

there is no majority thwarting you ignorant ass. they have the majority in the house. you're so stupid you believe that the house must do what the WH and senate want, that is not the what the founders had in mind.

go take a civics class

 

[Yurt]

How can you have a functonal government when the majority has NO power?

poor liberal crying because the pubs have a majority in the house

Then why won't Boehner allow a vote on the Senate bill, without the Obamacare provisions in it?

he doesn't have to...he has the votes to defund obamacare

poor crybaby

 

[Yurt]

How can you have a functonal government when the majority has NO power?

this is quite possibly the most idiotic post of the year. this person actually believes that the house must do whatever the WH and senate say. this person is absolutely clueless about our three branches of government.

thank goodness the founders did not believe as this idiot does.

bump

 

[NYcarbineer]

let's see...the gop wants to fund everything except one program and the WH and senate dems won't budge one bit and that means it is the republicans holding america hostage...

how can you be so stupid?

Wrong.

The GOP doesn't have the votes to defund Obamacare so they are attempting undemocratically thwart the will of the majority.

sure they do and they are proving it

there is no majority thwarting you ignorant ass. they have the majority in the house. you're so stupid you believe that the house must do what the WH and senate want, that is not the what the founders had in mind.

go take a civics class

Can the House defund Obamacare by itself?

 

[Darkwind]

Nobody believes this garbage. Not even you extremist teabaggers belaieve it but you continue to say it over and over as if doing so will make it true.

Stop.

It is a fact. Because you do not wish to believe it, does not alter the fact that a vote was taken to keep the government open. That bill was given to the Senate.

If government shuts down, it will be because Reid will not compromise and work with the House.

He [Reid] IS holding America hostage.

 

[NYcarbineer]

poor liberal crying because the pubs have a majority in the house

Then why won't Boehner allow a vote on the Senate bill, without the Obamacare provisions in it?

he doesn't have to...he has the votes to defund obamacare

poor crybaby

If he had the votes, wouldn't it simply be defunded by now?

 

[Steven_R]

Wrong.

The GOP doesn't have the votes to defund Obamacare so they are attempting undemocratically thwart the will of the majority.

sure they do and they are proving it

there is no majority thwarting you ignorant ass. they have the majority in the house. you're so stupid you believe that the house must do what the WH and senate want, that is not the what the founders had in mind.

go take a civics class

Can the House defund Obamacare by itself?

Neither house of Congress can do much regarding the budget on its own. Of both houses don't agree then there needs to be some compromise.

Too bad Barry "I Won" Obama and Harry "Barry's Cock Tastes Like Wookiee Snatch" Reid don't feel that that part of the equation isn't all that important.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Nobody believes this garbage. Not even you extremist teabaggers belaieve it but you continue to say it over and over as if doing so will make it true.

Stop.

It is a fact. Because you do not wish to believe it, does not alter the fact that a vote was taken to keep the government open. That bill was given to the Senate.

If government shuts down, it will be because Reid will not compromise and work with the House.

He [Reid] IS holding America hostage.

He has no obligation whatsoever to 'work with' the House on a matter that is already settled.

 

[Yurt]

Nobody believes this garbage. Not even you extremist teabaggers belaieve it but you continue to say it over and over as if doing so will make it true.

Stop.

It is a fact. Because you do not wish to believe it, does not alter the fact that a vote was taken to keep the government open. That bill was given to the Senate.

If government shuts down, it will be because Reid will not compromise and work with the House.

He [Reid] IS holding America hostage.

He has no obligation whatsoever to 'work with' the House on a matter that is already settled.

funding is not settled...the bill for obamacare did not have a provision for funding

too bad

 

[Steven_R]

Nobody believes this garbage. Not even you extremist teabaggers belaieve it but you continue to say it over and over as if doing so will make it true.

Stop.

It is a fact. Because you do not wish to believe it, does not alter the fact that a vote was taken to keep the government open. That bill was given to the Senate.

If government shuts down, it will be because Reid will not compromise and work with the House.

He [Reid] IS holding America hostage.

He has no obligation whatsoever to 'work with' the House on a matter that is already settled.

Considering that Congress as a whole controls the checkbook and half of Congress is saying "nope, not gonna happen", yeah he kind of does.

 

[Yurt]

Wrong.

The GOP doesn't have the votes to defund Obamacare so they are attempting undemocratically thwart the will of the majority.

sure they do and they are proving it

there is no majority thwarting you ignorant ass. they have the majority in the house. you're so stupid you believe that the house must do what the WH and senate want, that is not the what the founders had in mind.

go take a civics class

Can the House defund Obamacare by itself?

can the WH and senate fund obamacare by themselves?