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If we have a shutdown, it will be because Reid 'holds the American people hostage

False claim #2: Republicans must fund ObamaCare because it's the law.

“That's not really the American form of government. You [Host David Gregory] outlined the American form of government. The test by which we submit any new legislation and it's submitted, the President signs it, and it's reviewed by the courts. It's the law.”

— Chris Matthews, on Republican strategy to defund ObamaCare, on Meet the Press, September 29

Why it's a lie: While it is true that Congress enacted ObamaCare in 2010, the original bill contained zero funding. The original ObamaCare law was not self-funded, and funding of ObamaCare is what's at issue in Washington today. ObamaCare requires new appropriations spending each year, as Article I, Section 9 of the U.S. Constitution requires that “No money shall be drawn from the treasury, but in consequence of appropriations made by law.” Generally, this means annual spending bills passed by Congress, though in some rare instances Congress passes spending for more than a year.

The Congress has complete discretion about whether to fund — or not fund — the programs it sets up under law, and Congress defunds laws all the time — such as pork barrel purchases for the military weapons systems that are never funded. In fact, Congress is doing precisely the same thing right now under the sequester law, to the utter silence of Democratic Party mouthpieces like Chris Matthews. And no one argues that these are inappropriate uses of Congress' discretion of what to fund.

Regarding ObamaCare, there's a stronger case to deny funding than most pork barrel military weapons projects. President Obama proposed the law with a price tag of $900 billion over 10 years, but the Congressional Budget Office recently projected that costs would be roughly double the price estimated by Congress at the time it was passed into law.

They're Lying to You: Appropriations and ?Shutdown? Lies
 
False claim #2: Republicans must fund ObamaCare because it's the law.

“That's not really the American form of government. You [Host David Gregory] outlined the American form of government. The test by which we submit any new legislation and it's submitted, the President signs it, and it's reviewed by the courts. It's the law.”

— Chris Matthews, on Republican strategy to defund ObamaCare, on Meet the Press, September 29

Why it's a lie: While it is true that Congress enacted ObamaCare in 2010, the original bill contained zero funding. The original ObamaCare law was not self-funded, and funding of ObamaCare is what's at issue in Washington today. ObamaCare requires new appropriations spending each year, as Article I, Section 9 of the U.S. Constitution requires that “No money shall be drawn from the treasury, but in consequence of appropriations made by law.” Generally, this means annual spending bills passed by Congress, though in some rare instances Congress passes spending for more than a year.

The Congress has complete discretion about whether to fund — or not fund — the programs it sets up under law, and Congress defunds laws all the time — such as pork barrel purchases for the military weapons systems that are never funded. In fact, Congress is doing precisely the same thing right now under the sequester law, to the utter silence of Democratic Party mouthpieces like Chris Matthews. And no one argues that these are inappropriate uses of Congress' discretion of what to fund.

Regarding ObamaCare, there's a stronger case to deny funding than most pork barrel military weapons projects. President Obama proposed the law with a price tag of $900 billion over 10 years, but the Congressional Budget Office recently projected that costs would be roughly double the price estimated by Congress at the time it was passed into law.

They're Lying to You: Appropriations and ?Shutdown? Lies
As the legislature has power to make law? They can also rescind law...

People are really stupid to think because a law is passed...that's it...game over...how BLIND some remain. Only LAW in stone are The Ten Commandments.
 
Wrong its on the GOP. If they don't like Obamacare win both houses and repeal it like it should be done its the law it should be funded that is how America works. The Tea party is holding America Hostage. Does everyone in this realize a Gov Shutdown will cost more then just funding everything?
The PEOPLE by a wide margin didn't want the Government taking over 1/6th of the economy from the start.

The TEA PARTY IS THE PEOPLE. WE don't take kindly to BLIND liars like you.

GET yer shit straight son. The GOP has stated they don't want the shut down...Obama and REID won't compromise...but yet they will compromise with enemies of this Republic...

Where was Obama back in 2006 when he chastised BUSH for Debt ceiling?

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyLmru6no4U"]Senator Obama calls Bush "unpatriotic" for adding trillions to debt [ame]www.RightFace.us[/ame] - YouTube[/ame]

But YET? Obama is now correct somehow? Is Obama unpatriotic?

Tripled DOWN on what Bush did?

Come back when you have something cogent.

You are a dumb....... Won't Lower myself to your level But, EVERY Poll shows Americans are placing Blame on the GOP. I am sorry you don't think so but Polls don't Lie. And I am also sorry you don't like the laws but they are laws deal with it. The Tea party is not the people it does not even represent a majority it is a minority. Go Shovel your shit somewhere else.

The Tea Party is the heavily funded base I have been referring to and who these pinhead want to ignore..and they are a MINORITY. You don't have to think back too far to remember what Deep Throat told Woodard and Bernstiein: "Follow the money." Jim DeMint, the whore, left the Senate to be the face of the Tea Party, the Heritage Foundation. He's in bed with Cruz. They are having a bromance while Boehner is left out in the cold and taking the blame.
 
The PEOPLE by a wide margin didn't want the Government taking over 1/6th of the economy from the start.

The TEA PARTY IS THE PEOPLE. WE don't take kindly to BLIND liars like you.

GET yer shit straight son. The GOP has stated they don't want the shut down...Obama and REID won't compromise...but yet they will compromise with enemies of this Republic...

Where was Obama back in 2006 when he chastised BUSH for Debt ceiling?

Senator Obama calls Bush "unpatriotic" for adding trillions to debt [URL="http://www.RightFace.us"]www.RightFace.us - YouTube[/URL]

But YET? Obama is now correct somehow? Is Obama unpatriotic?

Tripled DOWN on what Bush did?

Come back when you have something cogent.

You are a dumb....... Won't Lower myself to your level But, EVERY Poll shows Americans are placing Blame on the GOP. I am sorry you don't think so but Polls don't Lie. And I am also sorry you don't like the laws but they are laws deal with it. The Tea party is not the people it does not even represent a majority it is a minority. Go Shovel your shit somewhere else.

The Tea Party is the heavily funded base I have been referring to and who these pinhead want to ignore..and they are a MINORITY. You don't have to think back too far to remember what Deep Throat told Woodard and Bernstiein: "Follow the money." Jim DeMint, the whore, left the Senate to be the face of the Tea Party, the Heritage Foundation. He's in bed with Cruz. They are having a bromance while Boehner is left out in the cold and taking the blame.
The PEOPLE are a minority? Since when?
 
The House needs to submit a CR that funds all legal programs and laws.

not pick and choose which ones they want to fund.

if they are legally and supposed to get funding, they should be funded.

The GOP is holding 99% of the nation's funding hostage over one program.
 
He sure negotiated with Bin Laden, didn't he? Make sense every now and then at least, Thomas.
Still on that shit eh? But he has Muslim Brotherhood IN the WH, doesn't he? Guess who they are? PEOPLE that would love nothing better than to KILL YOU, ALL of us... Get it?

*SHITHEAD*

He has them running scared maybe.

*Fuckface*

Somebody needs to look up Iran/Contra and learn the meaning of "negociating with terrorist".
 
The House needs to submit a CR that funds all legal programs and laws.

not pick and choose which ones they want to fund.

if they are legally and supposed to get funding, they should be funded.

The GOP is holding 99% of the nation's funding hostage over one program.

^LIAR. Try Obama and REID. The GOP wanted to compromise. REID: "DEAD ON ARRIVAL..." OBAMA: "FUND IT OR ELSE I WILL VETO ANY BILL THAT COMES ACROSS MY DESK WITHOUT IT"

*I* THink it's time FOR a Shut down. LET FED Workers FEEL our pain...so they will KNOW who is running the show...and it isn't them.

I could care less IF a Federal worker is furloughed. MAYBE THEY can find a PART TIME JOB like the rest of us in Obama's economy?
 
The second worst president, ever, Jimmy Carter, was the last American president to talk to Iran.

Obama just picks up where Carter left off and is just proving that he is THE worst president, ever.
 
Still on that shit eh? But he has Muslim Brotherhood IN the WH, doesn't he? Guess who they are? PEOPLE that would love nothing better than to KILL YOU, ALL of us... Get it?

*SHITHEAD*

He has them running scared maybe.

*Fuckface*

Somebody needs to look up Iran/Contra and learn the meaning of "negociating with terrorist".

Yes. Some of us have convenient memories.
 
False claim #2: Republicans must fund ObamaCare because it's the law.

“That's not really the American form of government. You [Host David Gregory] outlined the American form of government. The test by which we submit any new legislation and it's submitted, the President signs it, and it's reviewed by the courts. It's the law.”

— Chris Matthews, on Republican strategy to defund ObamaCare, on Meet the Press, September 29

Why it's a lie: While it is true that Congress enacted ObamaCare in 2010, the original bill contained zero funding. The original ObamaCare law was not self-funded, and funding of ObamaCare is what's at issue in Washington today. ObamaCare requires new appropriations spending each year, as Article I, Section 9 of the U.S. Constitution requires that “No money shall be drawn from the treasury, but in consequence of appropriations made by law.” Generally, this means annual spending bills passed by Congress, though in some rare instances Congress passes spending for more than a year.

The Congress has complete discretion about whether to fund — or not fund — the programs it sets up under law, and Congress defunds laws all the time — such as pork barrel purchases for the military weapons systems that are never funded. In fact, Congress is doing precisely the same thing right now under the sequester law, to the utter silence of Democratic Party mouthpieces like Chris Matthews. And no one argues that these are inappropriate uses of Congress' discretion of what to fund.

Regarding ObamaCare, there's a stronger case to deny funding than most pork barrel military weapons projects. President Obama proposed the law with a price tag of $900 billion over 10 years, but the Congressional Budget Office recently projected that costs would be roughly double the price estimated by Congress at the time it was passed into law.

They're Lying to You: Appropriations and ?Shutdown? Lies

The House needs to submit a CR that funds all legal programs and laws.

not pick and choose which ones they want to fund.

if they are legally and supposed to get funding, they should be funded.

The GOP is holding 99% of the nation's funding hostage over one program.

:eusa_boohoo:
 
The second worst president, ever, Jimmy Carter, was the last American president to talk to Iran.

Obama just picks up where Carter left off and is just proving that he is THE worst president, ever.
OBAMA has surpassed Jimmah Catah as WORST. By a long shot.
 
The second worst president, ever, Jimmy Carter, was the last American president to talk to Iran.

Obama just picks up where Carter left off and is just proving that he is THE worst president, ever.

Reagan talked to the Iranians.
 
I watched Gregory playing softball with that liar today. Let him repeat every bullshit talking point in his book. Some of them more than once.

Ever notice how nutters swarm to threads like this? One after another...congratulating each other for retarded posts.

Try something different, will ya?
 
False claim #2: Republicans must fund ObamaCare because it's the law.

“That's not really the American form of government. You [Host David Gregory] outlined the American form of government. The test by which we submit any new legislation and it's submitted, the President signs it, and it's reviewed by the courts. It's the law.”

— Chris Matthews, on Republican strategy to defund ObamaCare, on Meet the Press, September 29

Why it's a lie: While it is true that Congress enacted ObamaCare in 2010, the original bill contained zero funding. The original ObamaCare law was not self-funded, and funding of ObamaCare is what's at issue in Washington today. ObamaCare requires new appropriations spending each year, as Article I, Section 9 of the U.S. Constitution requires that “No money shall be drawn from the treasury, but in consequence of appropriations made by law.” Generally, this means annual spending bills passed by Congress, though in some rare instances Congress passes spending for more than a year.

The Congress has complete discretion about whether to fund — or not fund — the programs it sets up under law, and Congress defunds laws all the time — such as pork barrel purchases for the military weapons systems that are never funded. In fact, Congress is doing precisely the same thing right now under the sequester law, to the utter silence of Democratic Party mouthpieces like Chris Matthews. And no one argues that these are inappropriate uses of Congress' discretion of what to fund.

Regarding ObamaCare, there's a stronger case to deny funding than most pork barrel military weapons projects. President Obama proposed the law with a price tag of $900 billion over 10 years, but the Congressional Budget Office recently projected that costs would be roughly double the price estimated by Congress at the time it was passed into law.

They're Lying to You: Appropriations and ?Shutdown? Lies

The House needs to submit a CR that funds all legal programs and laws.

not pick and choose which ones they want to fund.

if they are legally and supposed to get funding, they should be funded.

The GOP is holding 99% of the nation's funding hostage over one program.

:eusa_boohoo:

Using Fox is like using Bleacher report for accurate sporting news. Might not be fox but its the same.
 
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False claim #2: Republicans must fund ObamaCare because it's the law.

“That's not really the American form of government. You [Host David Gregory] outlined the American form of government. The test by which we submit any new legislation and it's submitted, the President signs it, and it's reviewed by the courts. It's the law.”

— Chris Matthews, on Republican strategy to defund ObamaCare, on Meet the Press, September 29

Why it's a lie: While it is true that Congress enacted ObamaCare in 2010, the original bill contained zero funding. The original ObamaCare law was not self-funded, and funding of ObamaCare is what's at issue in Washington today. ObamaCare requires new appropriations spending each year, as Article I, Section 9 of the U.S. Constitution requires that “No money shall be drawn from the treasury, but in consequence of appropriations made by law.” Generally, this means annual spending bills passed by Congress, though in some rare instances Congress passes spending for more than a year.

The Congress has complete discretion about whether to fund — or not fund — the programs it sets up under law, and Congress defunds laws all the time — such as pork barrel purchases for the military weapons systems that are never funded. In fact, Congress is doing precisely the same thing right now under the sequester law, to the utter silence of Democratic Party mouthpieces like Chris Matthews. And no one argues that these are inappropriate uses of Congress' discretion of what to fund.

Regarding ObamaCare, there's a stronger case to deny funding than most pork barrel military weapons projects. President Obama proposed the law with a price tag of $900 billion over 10 years, but the Congressional Budget Office recently projected that costs would be roughly double the price estimated by Congress at the time it was passed into law.

They're Lying to You: Appropriations and ?Shutdown? Lies

The House needs to submit a CR that funds all legal programs and laws.

not pick and choose which ones they want to fund.

if they are legally and supposed to get funding, they should be funded.

The GOP is holding 99% of the nation's funding hostage over one program.

:eusa_boohoo:

Using Fox is like using Bleacher report for accurate sporting news. Might not be fox but its the same.

translation:

i can't refute the points so i will wuss out and attack the messenger

:eusa_whistle:
 
The second worst president, ever, Jimmy Carter, was the last American president to talk to Iran.

Obama just picks up where Carter left off and is just proving that he is THE worst president, ever.

Reagan talked to the Iranians.
Was that Before or After George HW Bush took an SR71 over there and secured the release of the hostages the tyrants held for 444 days? :eusa_whistle:

*IDIOT*
 

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