If you can't make it in this country ... you are a loser

[eddiew]

It's against my religion to succeed the way Bill Gates succeeded.

Yep. He worked

Copied, sued, lied...Please don't forget I followed MS from the early days and I know what a rat BG was and still is.

But you think obama bill and hillary are rats too so your opinion means nothing to me Ever see how much BG gives to charity??

 

[Indeependent]

It's against my religion to succeed the way Bill Gates succeeded.

Yep. He worked

Copied, sued, lied...Please don't forget I followed MS from the early days and I know what a rat BG was and still is.

But you think obama bill and hillary are rats too so your opinion means nothing to me Ever see how much BG gives to charity??

I truly apologize for not falling for either Parties bullshit.

Please tell me how much charity BG gives to India and the African Nations; he barely gives a penny to anyone else.
Also tell me about his Billion Dollar Foundations that only have $100,000,000.00 (or less) in them while he keep the other $900,000,000.00 in an Interest Bearing Account.
Please do tell.

 

[eddiew]

It's against my religion to succeed the way Bill Gates succeeded.

Yep. He worked

Copied, sued, lied...Please don't forget I followed MS from the early days and I know what a rat BG was and still is.

But you think obama bill and hillary are rats too so your opinion means nothing to me Ever see how much BG gives to charity??

I truly apologize for not falling for either Parties bullshit.

Please tell me how much charity BG gives to India and the African Nations; he barely gives a penny to anyone else.
Also tell me about his Billion Dollar Foundations that only have $100,000,000.00 (or less) in them while he keep the other $900,000,000.00 in an Interest Bearing Account.
Please do tell.

Can't believe he has that much in 1% interest accountant Isn't that what banks and CD's paying?

 

[kaz]

Gee, sounds like those “professional politicians” the Drumpf supporters hate with a passion have done a good job creating a nation were, in your words, “How anyone can fail in the United States of America is beyond me…”

I'm not a Trump supporter, but whoever said that gets reality on that point. It's impossible to try here and fail. The problem are the losers who blame other people for their own failures and the Democrats who enable that. In fact Democrats feed off it

Problem as I see it is there are some here more equal than others

Kaz is right in one way (shocking I know). If you’re born in the US, you were born on 2nd base.
Liberals know this. Conservatives want credit for hitting a double.

All of us are warmed by the fires started by others. I am no different. Kaz is no different.

WTF does being born in the USA have to do with anything? My father in law came from Korea not speaking a word of English and when he died his neighbors were literally Sugar Ray Leonard and Linda Carter in Potomac Maryland. You are making my point, not contradicting it. This is the land of opportunity for everyone.

You yet again made another lame excuse for failure, you are proving my point what you do

I agree fully about the land of opportunity, but why has the schmuck trump say he'll make America great AGAIN Isn't it already great??

Don't give a shit. There are a hundred Trump threads if that's what you want

 

[kaz]

I'm sick of all the whining from the left that the unions created the middle class and tax cuts for the rich and blah blah. This is the richest country in the history of man. The "poor" don't pay taxes and get endless government payouts. The middle class pay little. If you're black or female, companies are seeking you out to increase their diversity.

If you are an able bodied person in this country, you can do anything. No one in history has had it so good. The opportunity is endless. Your parents were willing to sacrifice and work for their children. Too many people today just want it easy. I put myself through college, worked full time while getting my first masters degree and borrowed and paid off the second one. No one gave me shit but a loving, stable home. The money and opportunity I did on my own.

How anyone can fail in the United States of America is beyond me.. Those of you saying you can't succeed because of the system are a bunch of lazy whiners, get off your ass and get to work if you want more money. Stop asking government to take it from someone who earned it and give it to you. Earn it. Your parents should have had this talk with you before you left home

Gee, sounds like those “professional politicians” the Drumpf supporters hate with a passion have done a good job creating a nation were, in your words, “How anyone can fail in the United States of America is beyond me…”

I'm not a Trump supporter, but whoever said that gets reality on that point. It's impossible to try here and fail. The problem are the losers who blame other people for their own failures and the Democrats who enable that. In fact Democrats feed off it

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Drumpf’s entire campaign blames others (illegal immigrants) for Americans not being able to find jobs and for crime.
Why can’t Drumpf release his taxes? He blames others (the IRS).

Yes, what Trump said is completely different than what I am saying. Trump is totally blaming other people for problems. I'm saying the owner of your problem is you. And you are the one talking about Trump. Why do I give a shit if you and Trump both disagree with me? Are you a Trump supporter?

You tried to blame Democrats—of which I’m not one—however I point out that the Republican nominee is the one blaming everyone else. And you’re defending the guy you say you don’t support…. How totally unexpected (lol).

If you don’t give a shit…don’t comment.
I’m surprised that you take it so personally whenever Drumpf is brought up.

It’s not like he is your messiah or anything…is he?

You know what Democrats and Trump have in common? I didn't name either one my OP. I blamed anyone who blames others rather than taking responsibility for their own lives.

What is your sick obsession with Trump? You kinda hot for him?

 

[kaz]

Gee, sounds like those “professional politicians” the Drumpf supporters hate with a passion have done a good job creating a nation were, in your words, “How anyone can fail in the United States of America is beyond me…”

I'm not a Trump supporter, but whoever said that gets reality on that point. It's impossible to try here and fail. The problem are the losers who blame other people for their own failures and the Democrats who enable that. In fact Democrats feed off it

Problem as I see it is there are some here more equal than others

Kaz is right in one way (shocking I know). If you’re born in the US, you were born on 2nd base.
Liberals know this. Conservatives want credit for hitting a double.

All of us are warmed by the fires started by others. I am no different. Kaz is no different.

WTF does being born in the USA have to do with anything? My father in law came from Korea not speaking a word of English and when he died his neighbors were literally Sugar Ray Leonard and Linda Carter in Potomac Maryland. You are making my point, not contradicting it. This is the land of opportunity for everyone.
You yet again made another lame excuse for failure, you are proving my point what you do

Never even mentioned the word failure…

Just that liberals understand they are standing on the shoulders of generations that came before, built schools, roads, infrastructure, a system of courts, etc…

Conservatives on the other hand think they did it all themselves.

For example, the school they went to was put in their neighborhood by someone who deiced to place it there, tax people to fund it, passed credentialing rules so that the teachers who staffed it were at least minimally qualified to instruct kids, that the kids who went there got decent lunches. When you got your first job, if you are a minority group, there were laws passed to outlaw discrimination. The cars you drove to and from the job were certified safe, the road was paved, the intellectual property you created at your job was protected by patents…. it goes on and on.

Congratulations on taking advantage of it (as I said earlier by the way)….and more people can and should….you’re right again.

Stop pretending like you did it by yourself though.

Exactly, it's all there. So stop whining and go out and make it so. There is zero excuse for failing in this country

 

[kaz]

I'm sick of all the whining from the left that the unions created the middle class and tax cuts for the rich and blah blah. This is the richest country in the history of man. The "poor" don't pay taxes and get endless government payouts. The middle class pay little. If you're black or female, companies are seeking you out to increase their diversity.

If you are an able bodied person in this country, you can do anything. No one in history has had it so good. The opportunity is endless. Your parents were willing to sacrifice and work for their children. Too many people today just want it easy. I put myself through college, worked full time while getting my first masters degree and borrowed and paid off the second one. No one gave me shit but a loving, stable home. The money and opportunity I did on my own.

How anyone can fail in the United States of America is beyond me.. Those of you saying you can't succeed because of the system are a bunch of lazy whiners, get off your ass and get to work if you want more money. Stop asking government to take it from someone who earned it and give it to you. Earn it. Your parents should have had this talk with you before you left home

So dump is full of shit that he's going to make america great again??

I didn't weigh in because the OP started off with a factual inaccuracy and set an agenda for the thread.

But, the question might be .... assume you have two individuals, each making $15 hr and working full time. Can they make it in America today? And are there $15 hr jobs out there for HS grads who can read, write and do sums?

LOL, yeah, you leftists don't make excuses for failure, and you'd pass a lie detector test, wouldn't you?

 

[kaz]

It's against my religion to succeed the way Bill Gates succeeded.

Yep. He worked

Copied, sued, lied...Please don't forget I followed MS from the early days and I know what a rat BG was and still is.

You're not the only one in this discussion with lots of information about what they did and how they did it, but that's not what the thread is about

 

[Indeependent]

It's against my religion to succeed the way Bill Gates succeeded.

Yep. He worked

Copied, sued, lied...Please don't forget I followed MS from the early days and I know what a rat BG was and still is.

You're not the only one in this discussion with lots of information about what they did and how they did it, but that's not what the thread is about

If you believe, even for a moment, that BG earned his wealth with head held high, you're a sociopath.

 

[Indeependent]

It's against my religion to succeed the way Bill Gates succeeded.

Yep. He worked

Copied, sued, lied...Please don't forget I followed MS from the early days and I know what a rat BG was and still is.

But you think obama bill and hillary are rats too so your opinion means nothing to me Ever see how much BG gives to charity??

I truly apologize for not falling for either Parties bullshit.

Please tell me how much charity BG gives to India and the African Nations; he barely gives a penny to anyone else.
Also tell me about his Billion Dollar Foundations that only have $100,000,000.00 (or less) in them while he keep the other $900,000,000.00 in an Interest Bearing Account.
Please do tell.

Can't believe he has that much in 1% interest accountant Isn't that what banks and CD's paying?

All that matters is that BG does NOTHING for anyone but HIMSELF.
Not to mention BG investing in Pharmaceuticals in Africa because they're allowed to experiment on humans.
But what the heck, after all, most of those human guinea pigs are Black.
Yep, BG is a FINE human being.

 

[kaz]

It's against my religion to succeed the way Bill Gates succeeded.

Yep. He worked

Copied, sued, lied...Please don't forget I followed MS from the early days and I know what a rat BG was and still is.

You're not the only one in this discussion with lots of information about what they did and how they did it, but that's not what the thread is about

If you believe, even for a moment, that BG earned his wealth with head held high, you're a sociopath.

I could tell you stories about how I know he didn't. You just don't want to discuss the subject. Start a thread on Bill Gates and I'll share

 

[kaz]

Yep. He worked

Copied, sued, lied...Please don't forget I followed MS from the early days and I know what a rat BG was and still is.

But you think obama bill and hillary are rats too so your opinion means nothing to me Ever see how much BG gives to charity??

I truly apologize for not falling for either Parties bullshit.

Please tell me how much charity BG gives to India and the African Nations; he barely gives a penny to anyone else.
Also tell me about his Billion Dollar Foundations that only have $100,000,000.00 (or less) in them while he keep the other $900,000,000.00 in an Interest Bearing Account.
Please do tell.

Can't believe he has that much in 1% interest accountant Isn't that what banks and CD's paying?

All that matters is that BG does NOTHING for anyone but HIMSELF.
Not to mention BG investing in Pharmaceuticals in Africa because they're allowed to experiment on humans.
But what the heck, after all, most of those human guinea pigs are Black.
Yep, BG is a FINE human being.

Bill Gates doesn't stop anyone from being successful in this country, you're still a loser

 

[Billy000]

The USA kind of sucks.

The poverty rate is 14% which is one of the highest in the developed world.

Wages have remained flat for decades while the cost of living continues to go up.

Paid medical leave is not a right like it should be.

Paid vacation is not a right and it should be.

The middle class is shrinking.

Republicans hold office.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

The USA kind of sucks.

The poverty rate is 14% which is one of the highest in the developed world.

Wages have remained flat for decades while the cost of living continues to go up.

Paid medical leave is not a right like it should be.

Paid vacation is not a right and it should be.

The middle class is shrinking.

Republicans hold office.

And DumBama has been President over the last seven years.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

I'm sick of all the whining from the left that the unions created the middle class and tax cuts for the rich and blah blah. This is the richest country in the history of man. The "poor" don't pay taxes and get endless government payouts. The middle class pay little. If you're black or female, companies are seeking you out to increase their diversity.

If you are an able bodied person in this country, you can do anything. No one in history has had it so good. The opportunity is endless. Your parents were willing to sacrifice and work for their children. Too many people today just want it easy. I put myself through college, worked full time while getting my first masters degree and borrowed and paid off the second one. No one gave me shit but a loving, stable home. The money and opportunity I did on my own.

How anyone can fail in the United States of America is beyond me.. Those of you saying you can't succeed because of the system are a bunch of lazy whiners, get off your ass and get to work if you want more money. Stop asking government to take it from someone who earned it and give it to you. Earn it. Your parents should have had this talk with you before you left home

So dump is full of shit that he's going to make america great again??

I didn't weigh in because the OP started off with a factual inaccuracy and set an agenda for the thread.

But, the question might be .... assume you have two individuals, each making $15 hr and working full time. Can they make it in America today? And are there $15 hr jobs out there for HS grads who can read, write and do sums?

Maybe and maybe not. I guess it depends on where you live.

But sitting home on your Obama phone isn't going to lead to a $15.00 per hour job. Sometimes you have to start of at $10.00 or so and work your way up. Kids today don't want to do that. They feel even if they sweep floors for a living, their work is worth it's weight in gold.

 

[ninja007]

I'm sick of all the whining from the left that the unions created the middle class and tax cuts for the rich and blah blah. This is the richest country in the history of man. The "poor" don't pay taxes and get endless government payouts. The middle class pay little. If you're black or female, companies are seeking you out to increase their diversity.

If you are an able bodied person in this country, you can do anything. No one in history has had it so good. The opportunity is endless. Your parents were willing to sacrifice and work for their children. Too many people today just want it easy. I put myself through college, worked full time while getting my first masters degree and borrowed and paid off the second one. No one gave me shit but a loving, stable home. The money and opportunity I did on my own.

How anyone can fail in the United States of America is beyond me.. Those of you saying you can't succeed because of the system are a bunch of lazy whiners, get off your ass and get to work if you want more money. Stop asking government to take it from someone who earned it and give it to you. Earn it. Your parents should have had this talk with you before you left home

most libs only have one parent.

 

[Billy000]

The USA kind of sucks.

The poverty rate is 14% which is one of the highest in the developed world.

Wages have remained flat for decades while the cost of living continues to go up.

Paid medical leave is not a right like it should be.

Paid vacation is not a right and it should be.

The middle class is shrinking.

Republicans hold office.

And DumBama has been President over the last seven years.

Yeah that's always a convenient response for you cons huh? Blame Obama. It makes thinking simpler for you. Of course like i said these issues have been going on for DECADES.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

I'm sick of all the whining from the left that the unions created the middle class and tax cuts for the rich and blah blah. This is the richest country in the history of man. The "poor" don't pay taxes and get endless government payouts. The middle class pay little. If you're black or female, companies are seeking you out to increase their diversity.

If you are an able bodied person in this country, you can do anything. No one in history has had it so good. The opportunity is endless. Your parents were willing to sacrifice and work for their children. Too many people today just want it easy. I put myself through college, worked full time while getting my first masters degree and borrowed and paid off the second one. No one gave me shit but a loving, stable home. The money and opportunity I did on my own.

How anyone can fail in the United States of America is beyond me.. Those of you saying you can't succeed because of the system are a bunch of lazy whiners, get off your ass and get to work if you want more money. Stop asking government to take it from someone who earned it and give it to you. Earn it. Your parents should have had this talk with you before you left home

Too bad you’re not tired of straw man fallacies – as this thread premise is yet another example of one.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Donald doesn't pay no tax either. And he got a hand out.

Cool. Anything on my OP?

Yes – it’s moronic, sophomoric tripe.

 

[francoHFW]

After 30 years of Voodoo: worst min. wage, work conditions, illegal work safeguards, vacations, work week, college costs, rich/poor gap, upward social mobility, % homeless and in prison EVAH, and in the modern world!! And you complain about the victims? Are you an idiot or an A-hole?

Too bad you dupes haven't heard about the GOP mindlessly blocking all the typical solutions the last 7 years. STILL 80 straight months of growth with no corrupt GOP bubble again.