If you didn't support Trump in 2016 do you regret it and will you support him in 2020

[strollingbones]

lol speaking of posers....chrisl is back with her photoshopping

 

[ChrisL]

lol speaking of posers....chrisl is back with her photoshopping

Now now, old witch. Behave and pay attention to where you are.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

So your issue with Trump (like most anti Trumpers) is on a personal basis than professional.

If you had a worker, who did a fantastic job; the best you've seen in a long while, would you get rid of him if he was not accurate with the truth all the time? If he was smug and sometimes insulting? He's doing the best work you've ever seen, however you have personal issues with him?

Of course you wouldn't, at least if you had any experience in business. And that's why I and others here will be supporting him next election. We like the results of what he's doing, and can ignore his personal traits that might not be so appealing.

People who lie, blame others, weasel out of trouble are never the best workers are never the best workers and never have been. They often turn out to be involved in theft, unfair labor practice, falsification of records etc. I have had good workers, but found out they could not be trust before, shut down their crooked operation and watched them frog marched to the door. Have you ever been in management and responsible for hiring/firing and discipline?

If you want to vote for your representatives like your voted for your favorite American Idol contestant, then that's up to you. I prefer to vote based on results, which we have pretty good ones right now. I prefer to live by the old adage that has always been true, and that is if it's not broke--don't fix it.

Trump doesn't weasel out of anything, and his so-called lies are harmless. Show me one President who never lied. It's one thing to lie about having the best economy of all time, and to lie and destroy our healthcare system while spending a trillion dollars to do it.

I don't know what your screen name means, but if it relates to your race, and you vote Democrat, you are voting for the anti-white party. You are voting for people that are trying every trick in the book to make you a minority as soon as possible, regardless of what damage comes to your fellow Americans.

Yes trump is all for them whites and he's a nationalist.... hmmmmm…..

Trump hasn't favored any particular group of people since he took office. What do you mean by Trump is for them whites???

You just said trump is the white party.

When?

 

[ChrisL]

People who lie, blame others, weasel out of trouble are never the best workers are never the best workers and never have been. They often turn out to be involved in theft, unfair labor practice, falsification of records etc. I have had good workers, but found out they could not be trust before, shut down their crooked operation and watched them frog marched to the door. Have you ever been in management and responsible for hiring/firing and discipline?

If you want to vote for your representatives like your voted for your favorite American Idol contestant, then that's up to you. I prefer to vote based on results, which we have pretty good ones right now. I prefer to live by the old adage that has always been true, and that is if it's not broke--don't fix it.

Trump doesn't weasel out of anything, and his so-called lies are harmless. Show me one President who never lied. It's one thing to lie about having the best economy of all time, and to lie and destroy our healthcare system while spending a trillion dollars to do it.

I don't know what your screen name means, but if it relates to your race, and you vote Democrat, you are voting for the anti-white party. You are voting for people that are trying every trick in the book to make you a minority as soon as possible, regardless of what damage comes to your fellow Americans.

Yes trump is all for them whites and he's a nationalist.... hmmmmm…..

Trump hasn't favored any particular group of people since he took office. What do you mean by Trump is for them whites???

You just said trump is the white party.

When?

You said "anti-white party" which to a liberal means the "white party" because they like to project their racism onto everyone else.

Since most dem politicians are also white, I doubt if they really want that. That is what they want their voters to believe, but I'm sure they don't want to see themselves become a minority either. They are just pandering as usual.

 

[White 6]

That is literally what they did. They voted for the apprentice games how huckster. All you care about is the economy. If it doesn't let you down while he's there, he's golden. With his constant lying as a tactic (or possible strategy to create confusion, to be taken advantage of), coupled with his impulsivity, unpredictability, his whole package of chaos is not worth it.

Do you think DJT was the cause of the effect?

Damn. That's a hard one. I am not sure. Society is changing, no doubt. No. He is not the cause. He is the product of the effect. I do not think he has dealt with it in the best interest of the nation as an entity, definitely not as a civil society. Remember that movie where Michael J Fox gave that speech to the President saying something like "people thirst for good leadership, like a dying man crawling across the desert and not finding it only the mirage, they'll drink the sand"? That is what happened. We thirst for leadership every 4 years. 2016 there was no leaders that showed up, so we drank the sand.

I meant *or. Stupid typo. I agree. Trump is the effect. Many whom I know did it as a FU to the PC culture Leftists I doubt they are alone who thought that way

Do you have a theory of what happened to the Republican party. I started voting mostly republican starting with Richard Nixon and voting Lamar Alexander for Governor back in 72. I do not recognize that party anymore. It is a party of today, appearing almost totally without honor, moving as a rubber stamp. Do they really support his leadership or is it just agenda goals and power?

I support the agenda he ran on, and am glad he is actually doing what he said he would. He may be crass, but I think it is good leadership to implement what you ran on while under constant attack. What did the republicans believe in 72 that they no longer do? I'm for less regulation, less taxes, no pointless wars, not increasing the welfare state, and sensible immigration. I'm also pro 2nd amendment, and support Christianity. I'm also big on free speech and not being a trade door mat for every country on earth. I'll add pro law enforcement and rule of law and treating everyone equally instead of pitting groups of people against each other for pointless reasons. That is just off the top of my head.

Well said, but in 72 they took a reasoned approach, did not label the opposition as the enemy of the Republican party, we're the party that started the EPA not the one appointing someone from the coal or gas industry and weakening clean water standards, the Republicans worked across the aisle to get thing done, clean up through the Clinton years. Republicans have not been against pointless wars for 2 decades. Christianity is not the purview of the Republican party. If someone disagreed with Republic point of view, rhetoric or talking point the generally were not labeled fascist, nazi, anti-american, etc. We had, as we do now, the largest economy on earth, following trade policy instituted by republican and democrat parties alike, and our GDP consistently expanded with those trade policies. Trump has been a leader at pitting people against each other, rich/poor, democrat/republican and yes, black/white. Republicans supported NATO and did not Trust Russia, much less take cues from it's leader. Republicans also used to be better at reigning in their own when they went to excess, not act as a rubber stamp. Now elected republicans do not speak to Democrats, or work together to solve problems. Republicans did not come into office and tear down what was put together by republican and democratic parties past, just to break something and put their stamp on it's replacement or replace it with nothing. The also did not raid the military budget after it was agreed by both houses and signed by the President to pay for their pet project, that they promised would be paid for by a foreign government. One party strong man unrestrained rule is a bad idea.

 

[ChrisL]

Do you think DJT was the cause of the effect?

Damn. That's a hard one. I am not sure. Society is changing, no doubt. No. He is not the cause. He is the product of the effect. I do not think he has dealt with it in the best interest of the nation as an entity, definitely not as a civil society. Remember that movie where Michael J Fox gave that speech to the President saying something like "people thirst for good leadership, like a dying man crawling across the desert and not finding it only the mirage, they'll drink the sand"? That is what happened. We thirst for leadership every 4 years. 2016 there was no leaders that showed up, so we drank the sand.

I meant *or. Stupid typo. I agree. Trump is the effect. Many whom I know did it as a FU to the PC culture Leftists I doubt they are alone who thought that way

Do you have a theory of what happened to the Republican party. I started voting mostly republican starting with Richard Nixon and voting Lamar Alexander for Governor back in 72. I do not recognize that party anymore. It is a party of today, appearing almost totally without honor, moving as a rubber stamp. Do they really support his leadership or is it just agenda goals and power?

I support the agenda he ran on, and am glad he is actually doing what he said he would. He may be crass, but I think it is good leadership to implement what you ran on while under constant attack. What did the republicans believe in 72 that they no longer do? I'm for less regulation, less taxes, no pointless wars, not increasing the welfare state, and sensible immigration. I'm also pro 2nd amendment, and support Christianity. I'm also big on free speech and not being a trade door mat for every country on earth. I'll add pro law enforcement and rule of law and treating everyone equally instead of pitting groups of people against each other for pointless reasons. That is just off the top of my head.

Well said, but in 72 they took a reasoned approach, did not label the opposition as the enemy of the Republican party, we're the party that started the EPA not the one appointing someone from the coal or gas industry and weakening clean water standards, the Republicans worked across the aisle to get thing done, clean up through the Clinton years. Republicans have not been against pointless wars for 2 decades. Christianity is not the purview of the Republican party. If someone disagreed with Republic point of view, rhetoric or talking point the generally were not labeled fascist, nazi, anti-american, etc. We had, as we do now, the largest economy on earth, following trade policy instituted by republican and democrat parties alike, and our GDP consistently expanded with those trade policies. Trump has been a leader at pitting people against each other, rich/poor, democrat/republican and yes, black/white. Republicans supported NATO and did not Trust Russia, much less take cues from it's leader. Republicans also used to be better at reigning in their own when they went to excess, not act as a rubber stamp. Now elected republicans do not speak to Democrats, or work together to solve problems. Republicans did not come into office and tear down what was put together by republican and democratic parties past, just to break something and put their stamp on it's replacement or replace it with nothing. The also did not raid the military budget after it was agreed by both houses and signed by the President to pay for their pet project, that they promised would be paid for by a foreign government. One party strong man unrestrained rule is a bad idea.

It was learned by the democrats. No more Mr. Nice Guy. No more Mr. Clean.

 

[White 6]

That is literally what they did. They voted for the apprentice games how huckster. All you care about is the economy. If it doesn't let you down while he's there, he's golden. With his constant lying as a tactic (or possible strategy to create confusion, to be taken advantage of), coupled with his impulsivity, unpredictability, his whole package of chaos is not worth it.

Do you think DJT was the cause of the effect?

Damn. That's a hard one. I am not sure. Society is changing, no doubt. No. He is not the cause. He is the product of the effect. I do not think he has dealt with it in the best interest of the nation as an entity, definitely not as a civil society. Remember that movie where Michael J Fox gave that speech to the President saying something like "people thirst for good leadership, like a dying man crawling across the desert and not finding it only the mirage, they'll drink the sand"? That is what happened. We thirst for leadership every 4 years. 2016 there was no leaders that showed up, so we drank the sand.

I meant *or. Stupid typo. I agree. Trump is the effect. Many whom I know did it as a FU to the PC culture Leftists I doubt they are alone who thought that way

Do you have a theory of what happened to the Republican party. I started voting mostly republican starting with Richard Nixon and voting Lamar Alexander for Governor back in 72. I do not recognize that party anymore. It is a party of today, appearing almost totally without honor, moving as a rubber stamp. Do they really support his leadership or is it just agenda goals and power?

Without honor? How are they any LESS honorable than the democratic party? How about name a democrat that is "honorable."

I will admit, I am less than impressed with the honor involved in tactics applied to Kavanaugh. Maybe failure to even allow a hearing for Obama's supreme court nominee for 10 months prior to the election is when both sides decided the gloves came off.

 

[White 6]

If you want to vote for your representatives like your voted for your favorite American Idol contestant, then that's up to you. I prefer to vote based on results, which we have pretty good ones right now. I prefer to live by the old adage that has always been true, and that is if it's not broke--don't fix it.

Trump doesn't weasel out of anything, and his so-called lies are harmless. Show me one President who never lied. It's one thing to lie about having the best economy of all time, and to lie and destroy our healthcare system while spending a trillion dollars to do it.

I don't know what your screen name means, but if it relates to your race, and you vote Democrat, you are voting for the anti-white party. You are voting for people that are trying every trick in the book to make you a minority as soon as possible, regardless of what damage comes to your fellow Americans.

Yes trump is all for them whites and he's a nationalist.... hmmmmm…..

Trump hasn't favored any particular group of people since he took office. What do you mean by Trump is for them whites???

You just said trump is the white party.

When?

You said "anti-white party" which to a liberal means the "white party" because they like to project their racism onto everyone else.

Since most dem politicians are also white, I doubt if they really want that. That is what they want their voters to believe, but I'm sure they don't want to see themselves become a minority either. They are just pandering as usual.

Question. Would you say that most white racist vote Republican and support Trump, while most black racist vote democrat and will support whoever the Dem of the moment is? Or is that completely off base?

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

If you want to vote for your representatives like your voted for your favorite American Idol contestant, then that's up to you. I prefer to vote based on results, which we have pretty good ones right now. I prefer to live by the old adage that has always been true, and that is if it's not broke--don't fix it.

Trump doesn't weasel out of anything, and his so-called lies are harmless. Show me one President who never lied. It's one thing to lie about having the best economy of all time, and to lie and destroy our healthcare system while spending a trillion dollars to do it.

I don't know what your screen name means, but if it relates to your race, and you vote Democrat, you are voting for the anti-white party. You are voting for people that are trying every trick in the book to make you a minority as soon as possible, regardless of what damage comes to your fellow Americans.

That is literally what they did. They voted for the apprentice games how huckster. All you care about is the economy. If it doesn't let you down while he's there, he's golden. With his constant lying as a tactic (or possible strategy to create confusion, to be taken advantage of), coupled with his impulsivity, unpredictability, his whole package of chaos is not worth it.

Do you think DJT was the cause of the effect?

Damn. That's a hard one. I am not sure. Society is changing, no doubt. No. He is not the cause. He is the product of the effect. I do not think he has dealt with it in the best interest of the nation as an entity, definitely not as a civil society. Remember that movie where Michael J Fox gave that speech to the President saying something like "people thirst for good leadership, like a dying man crawling across the desert and not finding it only the mirage, they'll drink the sand"? That is what happened. We thirst for leadership every 4 years. 2016 there was no leaders that showed up, so we drank the sand.

I meant *or. Stupid typo. I agree. Trump is the effect. Many whom I know did it as a FU to the PC culture Leftists I doubt they are alone who thought that way

Do you have a theory of what happened to the Republican party. I started voting mostly republican starting with Richard Nixon and voting Lamar Alexander for Governor back in 72. I do not recognize that party anymore. It is a party of today, appearing almost totally without honor, moving as a rubber stamp. Do they really support his leadership or is it just agenda goals and power?

I am only 39 and have never belonged to a political party. My theory is that Bush turned a lot of people away from the party due to the Iraq war and the Great Recession. BHO came in and spent monies to fix it. A lot of money. But we were still in the Middle East, meddling and we became soft. Example being John Kerry apologizing to Iran when they wrongly captured one of our boats. The Republicans ran honorable men in terms of McCain and Romney but they were boring and white old wealthy men and the country chose to go with Obama. BHO was young, charismatic and a minority and I thought would be good for the country. But unfortunately the country became more divided and many whites (I am guessing here were angry that they were still seen as racist and privileged when they supported a minority president). ISIS happened. Sequester happened. Black Lives Matter happened.

People were frustrated and looked to the Republican Party to give an alternative to HRC. Trump came out with simple messages. America First. Build that Wall. Curb illegal immigration. Invest in our military. Better trade deals. He had cache as a billionaire businessman and frankly killed it in the debates. Republicans realized that their party had somewhat changed and went along with it because Trump actually won. The country is turning socialist unfortunately and jealous of our successful wealthy people but fortunately we have the EC. Now the Democrats do have strong candidates but their Leftist wing won’t allow them to breathe. My 2 cents.

 

[basquebromance]

it is absolutely imperative that we defeat Trump, the most dangerous president in American history.

to beat Trump, we need the largest voter turnout in history. Bernie's campaign is the campaign of energy, and excitement, and of young people!

it is a campaign of the working families, by the working families, and for the working families, my friends!

 

[White 6]

Damn. That's a hard one. I am not sure. Society is changing, no doubt. No. He is not the cause. He is the product of the effect. I do not think he has dealt with it in the best interest of the nation as an entity, definitely not as a civil society. Remember that movie where Michael J Fox gave that speech to the President saying something like "people thirst for good leadership, like a dying man crawling across the desert and not finding it only the mirage, they'll drink the sand"? That is what happened. We thirst for leadership every 4 years. 2016 there was no leaders that showed up, so we drank the sand.

I meant *or. Stupid typo. I agree. Trump is the effect. Many whom I know did it as a FU to the PC culture Leftists I doubt they are alone who thought that way

Do you have a theory of what happened to the Republican party. I started voting mostly republican starting with Richard Nixon and voting Lamar Alexander for Governor back in 72. I do not recognize that party anymore. It is a party of today, appearing almost totally without honor, moving as a rubber stamp. Do they really support his leadership or is it just agenda goals and power?

I support the agenda he ran on, and am glad he is actually doing what he said he would. He may be crass, but I think it is good leadership to implement what you ran on while under constant attack. What did the republicans believe in 72 that they no longer do? I'm for less regulation, less taxes, no pointless wars, not increasing the welfare state, and sensible immigration. I'm also pro 2nd amendment, and support Christianity. I'm also big on free speech and not being a trade door mat for every country on earth. I'll add pro law enforcement and rule of law and treating everyone equally instead of pitting groups of people against each other for pointless reasons. That is just off the top of my head.

Well said, but in 72 they took a reasoned approach, did not label the opposition as the enemy of the Republican party, we're the party that started the EPA not the one appointing someone from the coal or gas industry and weakening clean water standards, the Republicans worked across the aisle to get thing done, clean up through the Clinton years. Republicans have not been against pointless wars for 2 decades. Christianity is not the purview of the Republican party. If someone disagreed with Republic point of view, rhetoric or talking point the generally were not labeled fascist, nazi, anti-american, etc. We had, as we do now, the largest economy on earth, following trade policy instituted by republican and democrat parties alike, and our GDP consistently expanded with those trade policies. Trump has been a leader at pitting people against each other, rich/poor, democrat/republican and yes, black/white. Republicans supported NATO and did not Trust Russia, much less take cues from it's leader. Republicans also used to be better at reigning in their own when they went to excess, not act as a rubber stamp. Now elected republicans do not speak to Democrats, or work together to solve problems. Republicans did not come into office and tear down what was put together by republican and democratic parties past, just to break something and put their stamp on it's replacement or replace it with nothing. The also did not raid the military budget after it was agreed by both houses and signed by the President to pay for their pet project, that they promised would be paid for by a foreign government. One party strong man unrestrained rule is a bad idea.

It was learned by the democrats. No more Mr. Nice Guy. No more Mr. Clean.

Or you saying learned by the Democrats or learned from the Democrats, meaning Republicans are blameless in the mess of democracy in action.

 

[BrokeLoser]

Yes trump is all for them whites and he's a nationalist.... hmmmmm…..

Trump hasn't favored any particular group of people since he took office. What do you mean by Trump is for them whites???

You just said trump is the white party.

When?

You said "anti-white party" which to a liberal means the "white party" because they like to project their racism onto everyone else.

Since most dem politicians are also white, I doubt if they really want that. That is what they want their voters to believe, but I'm sure they don't want to see themselves become a minority either. They are just pandering as usual.

Question. Would you say that most white racist vote Republican and support Trump, while most black racist vote democrat and will support whoever the Dem of the moment is? Or is that completely off base?

White ‘racists’ definitely vote Republican as they have a border policy. If you were a white ‘racist’ you’d do the same...right?

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Do you think DJT was the cause of the effect?

Damn. That's a hard one. I am not sure. Society is changing, no doubt. No. He is not the cause. He is the product of the effect. I do not think he has dealt with it in the best interest of the nation as an entity, definitely not as a civil society. Remember that movie where Michael J Fox gave that speech to the President saying something like "people thirst for good leadership, like a dying man crawling across the desert and not finding it only the mirage, they'll drink the sand"? That is what happened. We thirst for leadership every 4 years. 2016 there was no leaders that showed up, so we drank the sand.

I meant *or. Stupid typo. I agree. Trump is the effect. Many whom I know did it as a FU to the PC culture Leftists I doubt they are alone who thought that way

Do you have a theory of what happened to the Republican party. I started voting mostly republican starting with Richard Nixon and voting Lamar Alexander for Governor back in 72. I do not recognize that party anymore. It is a party of today, appearing almost totally without honor, moving as a rubber stamp. Do they really support his leadership or is it just agenda goals and power?

Without honor? How are they any LESS honorable than the democratic party? How about name a democrat that is "honorable."

I will admit, I am less than impressed with the honor involved in tactics applied to Kavanaugh. Maybe failure to even allow a hearing for Obama's supreme court nominee for 10 months prior to the election is when both sides decided the gloves came off.

They came off when the Democrats destroyed Palin. They doubled down when they squashed Romney. Biden said Romney would put black people back in chains. Romney never fought back. Neither did McCain. Trump did and the soft Leftists were outraged.

 

[White 6]

That is literally what they did. They voted for the apprentice games how huckster. All you care about is the economy. If it doesn't let you down while he's there, he's golden. With his constant lying as a tactic (or possible strategy to create confusion, to be taken advantage of), coupled with his impulsivity, unpredictability, his whole package of chaos is not worth it.

Do you think DJT was the cause of the effect?

Damn. That's a hard one. I am not sure. Society is changing, no doubt. No. He is not the cause. He is the product of the effect. I do not think he has dealt with it in the best interest of the nation as an entity, definitely not as a civil society. Remember that movie where Michael J Fox gave that speech to the President saying something like "people thirst for good leadership, like a dying man crawling across the desert and not finding it only the mirage, they'll drink the sand"? That is what happened. We thirst for leadership every 4 years. 2016 there was no leaders that showed up, so we drank the sand.

I meant *or. Stupid typo. I agree. Trump is the effect. Many whom I know did it as a FU to the PC culture Leftists I doubt they are alone who thought that way

Do you have a theory of what happened to the Republican party. I started voting mostly republican starting with Richard Nixon and voting Lamar Alexander for Governor back in 72. I do not recognize that party anymore. It is a party of today, appearing almost totally without honor, moving as a rubber stamp. Do they really support his leadership or is it just agenda goals and power?

I am only 39 and have never belonged to a political party. My theory is that Bush turned a lot of people away from the party due to the Iraq war and the Great Recession. BHO came in and spent monies to fix it. A lot of money. But we were still in the Middle East, meddling and we became soft. Example being John Kerry apologizing to Iran when they wrongly captured one of our boats. The Republicans ran honorable men in terms of McCain and Romney but they were boring and white old wealthy men and the country chose to go with Obama. BHO was young, charismatic and a minority and I thought would be good for the country. But unfortunately the country became more divided and many whites (I am guessing here were angry that they were still seen as racist and privileged when they supported a minority president). ISIS happened. Sequester happened. Black Lives Matter happened.

People were frustrated and looked to the Republican Party to give an alternative to HRC. Trump came out with simple messages. America First. Build that Wall. Curb illegal immigration. Invest in our military. Better trade deals. He had cache as a billionaire businessman and frankly killed it in the debates. Republicans realized that their party had somewhat changed and went along with it because Trump actually won. The country is turning socialist unfortunately and jealous of our successful wealthy people but fortunately we have the EC. Now the Democrats do have strong candidates but their Leftist wing won’t allow them to breathe. My 2 cents.

Not bad analysis for a 39 year old, unless your in the analysis trade. Very even handed. I'm certainly no professional poster. I just post my opinions from my point of view, take care of my own and plan and execute my vacations (we leave again in 10 days). Been a good night talking to you. See you around the board.

 

[SAYIT]

Do you think DJT was the cause of the effect?

Damn. That's a hard one. I am not sure. Society is changing, no doubt. No. He is not the cause. He is the product of the effect. I do not think he has dealt with it in the best interest of the nation as an entity, definitely not as a civil society. Remember that movie where Michael J Fox gave that speech to the President saying something like "people thirst for good leadership, like a dying man crawling across the desert and not finding it only the mirage, they'll drink the sand"? That is what happened. We thirst for leadership every 4 years. 2016 there was no leaders that showed up, so we drank the sand.

I meant *or. Stupid typo. I agree. Trump is the effect. Many whom I know did it as a FU to the PC culture Leftists I doubt they are alone who thought that way

Do you have a theory of what happened to the Republican party. I started voting mostly republican starting with Richard Nixon and voting Lamar Alexander for Governor back in 72. I do not recognize that party anymore. It is a party of today, appearing almost totally without honor, moving as a rubber stamp. Do they really support his leadership or is it just agenda goals and power?

Without honor? How are they any LESS honorable than the democratic party? How about name a democrat that is "honorable."

I will admit, I am less than impressed with the honor involved in tactics applied to Kavanaugh. Maybe failure to even allow a hearing for Obama's supreme court nominee for 10 months prior to the election is when both sides decided the gloves came off.

Yanno, it's one thing to play politics with when to bring a USSC vote to the floor and quite another to mount a blatantly obvious FRAUD on the Senate and this country to unjustly smear a respected jurist. What Sen Feinstein, Blasey-Ford, Michael Avenatti and the #MeToo Girls did was clearly criminal FRAUD.

 

[White 6]

it is absolutely imperative that we defeat Trump, the most dangerous president in American history.

to beat Trump, we need the largest voter turnout in history. Bernie's campaign is the campaign of energy, and excitement, and of young people!

it is a campaign of the working families, by the working families, and for the working families, my friends!

Not sure I want to support Bernie. If you label yourself as a Democratic Socialist, I have a hard time getting past the "Socialist" part. It could well indicate a willingness to take this country more directly down a road i would not want the young people you say support him to follow toward pure socialism. Not a direction I can recommend based on history. It is true we have had mix of both since the beginning, but the mix has to remain correct or it will kill the golden goose of capitalism.

 

[White 6]

Damn. That's a hard one. I am not sure. Society is changing, no doubt. No. He is not the cause. He is the product of the effect. I do not think he has dealt with it in the best interest of the nation as an entity, definitely not as a civil society. Remember that movie where Michael J Fox gave that speech to the President saying something like "people thirst for good leadership, like a dying man crawling across the desert and not finding it only the mirage, they'll drink the sand"? That is what happened. We thirst for leadership every 4 years. 2016 there was no leaders that showed up, so we drank the sand.

I meant *or. Stupid typo. I agree. Trump is the effect. Many whom I know did it as a FU to the PC culture Leftists I doubt they are alone who thought that way

Do you have a theory of what happened to the Republican party. I started voting mostly republican starting with Richard Nixon and voting Lamar Alexander for Governor back in 72. I do not recognize that party anymore. It is a party of today, appearing almost totally without honor, moving as a rubber stamp. Do they really support his leadership or is it just agenda goals and power?

Without honor? How are they any LESS honorable than the democratic party? How about name a democrat that is "honorable."

I will admit, I am less than impressed with the honor involved in tactics applied to Kavanaugh. Maybe failure to even allow a hearing for Obama's supreme court nominee for 10 months prior to the election is when both sides decided the gloves came off.

They came off when the Democrats destroyed Palin. They doubled down when they squashed Romney. Biden said Romney would put black people back in chains. Romney never fought back. Neither did McCain. Trump did and the soft Leftists were outraged.

Palin is what sunk McCain. Never having finished a term at anything I can think of, she was not ready for prime time, kind of like a Republican AOC lite, cute but useless. Romney let himself be recorded at an in opportune moment and the Democrats hammered it home. Romney tried, but failed. McCain should have never picked Palin. There was nothing he could do for her and it sunk the ticket. I was for him, right up until he picked her. My first thought was, "Oh,no he got a shallow FOX News babe. What if he kicks the bucket?" Apparently, I was not the only one.

 

[White 6]

Damn. That's a hard one. I am not sure. Society is changing, no doubt. No. He is not the cause. He is the product of the effect. I do not think he has dealt with it in the best interest of the nation as an entity, definitely not as a civil society. Remember that movie where Michael J Fox gave that speech to the President saying something like "people thirst for good leadership, like a dying man crawling across the desert and not finding it only the mirage, they'll drink the sand"? That is what happened. We thirst for leadership every 4 years. 2016 there was no leaders that showed up, so we drank the sand.

I meant *or. Stupid typo. I agree. Trump is the effect. Many whom I know did it as a FU to the PC culture Leftists I doubt they are alone who thought that way

Do you have a theory of what happened to the Republican party. I started voting mostly republican starting with Richard Nixon and voting Lamar Alexander for Governor back in 72. I do not recognize that party anymore. It is a party of today, appearing almost totally without honor, moving as a rubber stamp. Do they really support his leadership or is it just agenda goals and power?

Without honor? How are they any LESS honorable than the democratic party? How about name a democrat that is "honorable."

I will admit, I am less than impressed with the honor involved in tactics applied to Kavanaugh. Maybe failure to even allow a hearing for Obama's supreme court nominee for 10 months prior to the election is when both sides decided the gloves came off.

Yanno, it's one thing to play politics with when to bring a USSC vote to the floor and quite another to mount a blatantly obvious FRAUD on the Senate and this country to unjustly smear a respected jurist. What Sen Feinstein, Blasey-Ford, Michael Avenatti and the #MeToo Girls did was clearly criminal FRAUD.

The Democrats truly sucked on that farce. But, perhaps the die was cast when Obama was unfairly denied even a hearing for 10 months on the moderate Garland, just to keep him from appointing anyone, anyone at all. They could have voted him down, but it stuck in their craw that the republicans under Mitch refused to even give the qualified jurist a hearing.

 

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Do you think DJT was the cause of the effect?

Damn. That's a hard one. I am not sure. Society is changing, no doubt. No. He is not the cause. He is the product of the effect. I do not think he has dealt with it in the best interest of the nation as an entity, definitely not as a civil society. Remember that movie where Michael J Fox gave that speech to the President saying something like "people thirst for good leadership, like a dying man crawling across the desert and not finding it only the mirage, they'll drink the sand"? That is what happened. We thirst for leadership every 4 years. 2016 there was no leaders that showed up, so we drank the sand.

I meant *or. Stupid typo. I agree. Trump is the effect. Many whom I know did it as a FU to the PC culture Leftists I doubt they are alone who thought that way

Do you have a theory of what happened to the Republican party. I started voting mostly republican starting with Richard Nixon and voting Lamar Alexander for Governor back in 72. I do not recognize that party anymore. It is a party of today, appearing almost totally without honor, moving as a rubber stamp. Do they really support his leadership or is it just agenda goals and power?

I support the agenda he ran on, and am glad he is actually doing what he said he would. He may be crass, but I think it is good leadership to implement what you ran on while under constant attack. What did the republicans believe in 72 that they no longer do? I'm for less regulation, less taxes, no pointless wars, not increasing the welfare state, and sensible immigration. I'm also pro 2nd amendment, and support Christianity. I'm also big on free speech and not being a trade door mat for every country on earth. I'll add pro law enforcement and rule of law and treating everyone equally instead of pitting groups of people against each other for pointless reasons. That is just off the top of my head.

Well said, but in 72 they took a reasoned approach, did not label the opposition as the enemy of the Republican party, we're the party that started the EPA not the one appointing someone from the coal or gas industry and weakening clean water standards, the Republicans worked across the aisle to get thing done, clean up through the Clinton years. Republicans have not been against pointless wars for 2 decades. Christianity is not the purview of the Republican party. If someone disagreed with Republic point of view, rhetoric or talking point the generally were not labeled fascist, nazi, anti-american, etc. We had, as we do now, the largest economy on earth, following trade policy instituted by republican and democrat parties alike, and our GDP consistently expanded with those trade policies. Trump has been a leader at pitting people against each other, rich/poor, democrat/republican and yes, black/white. Republicans supported NATO and did not Trust Russia, much less take cues from it's leader. Republicans also used to be better at reigning in their own when they went to excess, not act as a rubber stamp. Now elected republicans do not speak to Democrats, or work together to solve problems. Republicans did not come into office and tear down what was put together by republican and democratic parties past, just to break something and put their stamp on it's replacement or replace it with nothing. The also did not raid the military budget after it was agreed by both houses and signed by the President to pay for their pet project, that they promised would be paid for by a foreign government. One party strong man unrestrained rule is a bad idea.

I appreciate your point of view, but with the media and democrats pulling garbage like Russian Collusion and Kavanaugh, and running people like Sanders and AOC, what else would you call them but an enemy? I never thought I'd see the left cheer for the establishment and limit free speech. Wanting Europe to contribute to its own defense also seemed reasonable. The European Leaders were using us as a cash register. I agree with you and Mac that their should be common ground things both parties should be able to agree with, but for most of my lifetime weak republicans have caved without a fight to democrats. Also, from my perspective, Trump could care less if you are a woman or a minority, he is working for everyone. I saw an interview where he talked about being the common sense party. Real solutions to real problems. I'm good with that.

 

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i said you were a puppet. learn to read. who cares about tulsi - she's not a concern unless she runs 3rd party. she said she wouldn't, but she's probably a liar like you. no wonder you like her.

You’re a pathetic piece of filth and a failure in life. There is no reasoning with you. Brag you do about your lack of debt but fail you did with your family. Priorities...now run along and stop harassing me.

^^^ triggered. & don't ferget who followed who here to this thread troll boy.

Incoherent post #50. Have another.

what was your first post to this thread? about the topic?

nope

who was it to? the OP?

nyet

you are nothing but a troll who regurgitates his own repetitive childishness. you aren't capable of anything more & i laugh @ y-o-u.

Yet I answer your questions and you cannot answer mine. Sad. Have another.

what questions? about witness'? i said i had no worries - bring 'em on. however, guliani is donny's personal lawyer - & is not supposta do what he's doing. bill barr is/was the only one from the DOJ that 'investigated. not the underlings that should have been. you do know billy boy isn't working for the nation, he is working solely for trump.

i didn't give you 'questions' - i gave you links solid credible links when you either thought i was makig shit up, or couldn't refudiate them.