If you use the term "crap policies"...

So where's the proof that ALL policies currently being cancelled due to Obamacare are "junk policies"?

Never mind. We both know there is no such proof.


:eusa_shhh:

This morning I heard on MSNBC, or maybe it was CNN, that ALL policies under ACA were considered "junk policies" because they include things like maternity care for men and prostate checks for women.

:eusa_shhh:
BS. ACA REQUIRES FREE CHECK UP PREVENTIVE CARE FOR EVERYONE, NOT THAT IDIOCY, IDIOT. STUPIDEST ARGUMENT EVER, BUT NO PROBLEM FOR HATER DUPES...

It's not his fault if insurers refuse to bring up bs policies up to spec.
 
IF that were true, which it isn't, THAT would be 100 times worse. That would make our founding fathers beyond 'statists', they would be communists.

It is true.

From your link.

State legislatures could set the rates that some monopoly corporations could charge for their products or services.
Corporations could not operate in other states because their charter was only good for the state that issued it, and they were required to provide a public good or benefit. They were more like modern utilities than modern corporations, but you are so stupid you can't tell the difference.

Then...that is 100 times worse. That would make our founding fathers way beyond 'statists', they would be communists.

LOL...a stupid person would believe somehow our founding fathers subscribed to 'laissez-faire' capitalism, when they governed by complete government control of corporations and commerce.

That would be YOU pea brain...:laugh2:

FYI, for those of small minds, that was from the days of the Articles of Confederation, not the Constitution, but, please, don't let facts disturb your attempt to rewrite history.
 
It is true.

From your link.

Corporations could not operate in other states because their charter was only good for the state that issued it, and they were required to provide a public good or benefit. They were more like modern utilities than modern corporations, but you are so stupid you can't tell the difference.

Then...that is 100 times worse. That would make our founding fathers way beyond 'statists', they would be communists.

LOL...a stupid person would believe somehow our founding fathers subscribed to 'laissez-faire' capitalism, when they governed by complete government control of corporations and commerce.

That would be YOU pea brain...:laugh2:

FYI, for those of small minds, that was from the days of the Articles of Confederation, not the Constitution, but, please, don't let facts disturb your attempt to rewrite history.

Hey pea brain...EPIC fail...

Articles of Confederation- drafted by the Continental Congress in mid-1776 to late 1777, and formal ratification by all 13 states was completed in early 1781.

United States Constitution- The Constitution was adopted on September 17, 1787, by the Constitutional Convention in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, and ratified by conventions in eleven States.


Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts.
Daniel Patrick Moynihan
 
...you prove that you're unable to think for yourself.

The lies continue.

First he said we can keep what we have if we like it.

He said costs would go down $2,500 a year for each family.

He said everyone would be insured.

He said illegal aliens would not be covered.

Then he said again and again and again that we could keep our plan and our doctor if we liked them.

Then the left claimed that is not what he said.

Then the left claimed he knowingly lied because the ends justify the means.

Now some on the left are blaming Republicans for the lie. Or maybe they blame the people because no one would have supported Obamacare if anyone had bothered to read it before they passed it.

Now that people are losing their care, the left claims that people were so damn stupid, they didn't even know they had a crap plan.

They actually expect people to be happy to get a plan they would not pick for themselves and pay a much higher cost.

So many people lost their insurance and cannot afford it now because the liberals made one of the worst laws in American history.

People are seeing their rates double and even triple and the deductible is way higher. Of course, many have no choice but to go without insurance and pay the penalty, which is just a fine and NOT a tax. We don't use taxes as punishment and Obama lied about that, too.

What will the spin be tomorrow?

The left also likes to claim that it's just a glitch on the Obamacare website and they are hiring the best people to fix it. They should have allowed the best people to address the healthcare problems we have instead of trying it themselves.

A glitch is just a minor annoyance. Many things have glitches, like cell phones, but for the most part they work as intended.

The Obamacare website doesn't have a glitch, it has a bitch who fucked up big time.

It's not secure and I pity anyone who goes to the site and types in their personal information. There are around 700 scam websites, according to John McAfee (McAfee software). He was asked to fix the Obamacare website, but refused because he said they would never agree to doing what was needed- scrapping the whole thing and starting over. They didn't take people's privacy into account at all. They spent hundreds of millions to have Michelle Obama's inept friend build the site, but didn't spend a couple thousand to buy up all the names that were similar to the actual website. That would have been something of a safeguard against some of the fraudulent websites.

Of course, I think the real site is nothing but a fraud because Obamacare isn't what they claim and we're all being scammed by the Obama administration. We'd probably suffer less damage with the scammers because then we only lose money. With the Obama administration, we will lose our money and our freedom.

It's amazing that the crooks have managed to build websites in a hurry, probably for cheap, that can handle traffic and help them steal people's identities and money. If anyone here has gone to an Obamacare website and it actually worked, you were likely at one of the fake ones since the real one is shit.

For years, private companies had websites to help people compare costs and benefits of various health insurers. They helped millions sign up for health care insurance. Of course, the socialist-in-chief refused to allow any private businesses to take part in this. He wanted the government in charge of everything. Obama, like most dictators, is real big on central planning, a concept that has never worked and never will.

We are screwed if we don't send some Dems packing.
 
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...you prove that you're unable to think for yourself.

The lies continue.

First he said we can keep what we have if we like it.

He said costs would go down $2,500 a year for each family.

He said everyone would be insured.

He said illegal aliens would not be covered.

Then he said again and again and again that we could keep our plan and our doctor if we liked them.

Then the left claimed that is not what he said.

Then the left claimed he knowingly lied because the ends justify the means.

Now some on the left are blaming Republicans for the lie. Or maybe they blame the people because no one would have supported Obamacare if anyone had bothered to read it before they passed it.

Now that people are losing their care, the left claims that people were so damn stupid, they didn't even know they had a crap plan.

They actually expect people to be happy to get a plan they would not pick for themselves and pay a much higher cost.

So many people lost their insurance and cannot afford it now because the liberals made one of the worst laws in American history.

People are seeing their rates double and even triple and the deductible is way higher. Of course, many have no choice but to go without insurance and pay the penalty, which is just a fine and NOT a tax. We don't use taxes as punishment and Obama lied about that, too.

What will the spin be tomorrow?

The left also likes to claim that it's just a glitch on the Obamacare website and they are hiring the best people to fix it. They should have allowed the best people to address the healthcare problems we have instead of trying it themselves.

A glitch is just a minor annoyance. Many things have glitches, like cell phones, but for the most part they work as intended.

The Obamacare website doesn't have a glitch, it has a bitch who fucked up big time.

It's not secure and I pity anyone who goes to the site and types in their personal information. There are around 700 scam websites, according to John McAfee (McAfee software). He was asked to fix the Obamacare website, but refused because he said they would never agree to doing what was needed- scrapping the whole thing and starting over. They didn't take people's privacy into account at all. They spent hundreds of millions to have Michelle Obama's inept friend build the site, but didn't spend a couple thousand to buy up all the names that were similar to the actual website. That would have been something of a safeguard against some of the fraudulent websites.

Of course, I think the real site is nothing but a fraud because Obamacare isn't what they claim and we're all being scammed by the Obama administration. We'd probably suffer less damage with the scammers because then we only lose money. With the Obama administration, we will lose our money and our freedom.

It's amazing that the crooks have managed to build websites in a hurry, probably for cheap, that can handle traffic and help them steal people's identities and money. If anyone here has gone to an Obamacare website and it actually worked, you were likely at one of the fake ones since the real one is shit.

For years, private companies had websites to help people compare costs and benefits of various health insurers. They helped millions sign up for health care insurance. Of course, the socialist-in-chief refused to allow any private businesses to take part in this. He wanted the government in charge of everything. Obama, like most dictators, is real big on central planning, a concept that has never worked and never will.

We are screwed if we don't send some Dems packing.

Leave it to the Right to lie about the lying. lol
 
...you prove that you're unable to think for yourself.

The lies continue.

First he said we can keep what we have if we like it.

He said costs would go down $2,500 a year for each family.

He said everyone would be insured.

He said illegal aliens would not be covered.

Then he said again and again and again that we could keep our plan and our doctor if we liked them.

Then the left claimed that is not what he said.

Then the left claimed he knowingly lied because the ends justify the means.

Now some on the left are blaming Republicans for the lie. Or maybe they blame the people because no one would have supported Obamacare if anyone had bothered to read it before they passed it.

Now that people are losing their care, the left claims that people were so damn stupid, they didn't even know they had a crap plan.

They actually expect people to be happy to get a plan they would not pick for themselves and pay a much higher cost.

So many people lost their insurance and cannot afford it now because the liberals made one of the worst laws in American history.

People are seeing their rates double and even triple and the deductible is way higher. Of course, many have no choice but to go without insurance and pay the penalty, which is just a fine and NOT a tax. We don't use taxes as punishment and Obama lied about that, too.

What will the spin be tomorrow?

The left also likes to claim that it's just a glitch on the Obamacare website and they are hiring the best people to fix it. They should have allowed the best people to address the healthcare problems we have instead of trying it themselves.

A glitch is just a minor annoyance. Many things have glitches, like cell phones, but for the most part they work as intended.

The Obamacare website doesn't have a glitch, it has a bitch who fucked up big time.

It's not secure and I pity anyone who goes to the site and types in their personal information. There are around 700 scam websites, according to John McAfee (McAfee software). He was asked to fix the Obamacare website, but refused because he said they would never agree to doing what was needed- scrapping the whole thing and starting over. They didn't take people's privacy into account at all. They spent hundreds of millions to have Michelle Obama's inept friend build the site, but didn't spend a couple thousand to buy up all the names that were similar to the actual website. That would have been something of a safeguard against some of the fraudulent websites.

Of course, I think the real site is nothing but a fraud because Obamacare isn't what they claim and we're all being scammed by the Obama administration. We'd probably suffer less damage with the scammers because then we only lose money. With the Obama administration, we will lose our money and our freedom.

It's amazing that the crooks have managed to build websites in a hurry, probably for cheap, that can handle traffic and help them steal people's identities and money. If anyone here has gone to an Obamacare website and it actually worked, you were likely at one of the fake ones since the real one is shit.

For years, private companies had websites to help people compare costs and benefits of various health insurers. They helped millions sign up for health care insurance. Of course, the socialist-in-chief refused to allow any private businesses to take part in this. He wanted the government in charge of everything. Obama, like most dictators, is real big on central planning, a concept that has never worked and never will.

We are screwed if we don't send some Dems packing.

Darth Obama - "I've altered the deal.......pray I don't alter it further!"
 
Then...that is 100 times worse. That would make our founding fathers way beyond 'statists', they would be communists.

LOL...a stupid person would believe somehow our founding fathers subscribed to 'laissez-faire' capitalism, when they governed by complete government control of corporations and commerce.

That would be YOU pea brain...:laugh2:

FYI, for those of small minds, that was from the days of the Articles of Confederation, not the Constitution, but, please, don't let facts disturb your attempt to rewrite history.

Hey pea brain...EPIC fail...

Articles of Confederation- drafted by the Continental Congress in mid-1776 to late 1777, and formal ratification by all 13 states was completed in early 1781.

United States Constitution- The Constitution was adopted on September 17, 1787, by the Constitutional Convention in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, and ratified by conventions in eleven States.


Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts.
Daniel Patrick Moynihan

OK genius, what was the specific date of the factoid I mentioned? You know the one, the one where states made it illegal for businesses from other states to do business inside their borders? Or did you forget that the Constitution specifically took that power away from the states, and gave it exclusively to Congress?

Want to tell me about my own set of facts again?
 
...you prove that you're unable to think for yourself.

The lies continue.

First he said we can keep what we have if we like it.

He said costs would go down $2,500 a year for each family.

He said everyone would be insured.

He said illegal aliens would not be covered.

Then he said again and again and again that we could keep our plan and our doctor if we liked them.

Then the left claimed that is not what he said.

Then the left claimed he knowingly lied because the ends justify the means.

Now some on the left are blaming Republicans for the lie. Or maybe they blame the people because no one would have supported Obamacare if anyone had bothered to read it before they passed it.

Now that people are losing their care, the left claims that people were so damn stupid, they didn't even know they had a crap plan.

They actually expect people to be happy to get a plan they would not pick for themselves and pay a much higher cost.

So many people lost their insurance and cannot afford it now because the liberals made one of the worst laws in American history.

People are seeing their rates double and even triple and the deductible is way higher. Of course, many have no choice but to go without insurance and pay the penalty, which is just a fine and NOT a tax. We don't use taxes as punishment and Obama lied about that, too.

What will the spin be tomorrow?

The left also likes to claim that it's just a glitch on the Obamacare website and they are hiring the best people to fix it. They should have allowed the best people to address the healthcare problems we have instead of trying it themselves.

A glitch is just a minor annoyance. Many things have glitches, like cell phones, but for the most part they work as intended.

The Obamacare website doesn't have a glitch, it has a bitch who fucked up big time.

It's not secure and I pity anyone who goes to the site and types in their personal information. There are around 700 scam websites, according to John McAfee (McAfee software). He was asked to fix the Obamacare website, but refused because he said they would never agree to doing what was needed- scrapping the whole thing and starting over. They didn't take people's privacy into account at all. They spent hundreds of millions to have Michelle Obama's inept friend build the site, but didn't spend a couple thousand to buy up all the names that were similar to the actual website. That would have been something of a safeguard against some of the fraudulent websites.

Of course, I think the real site is nothing but a fraud because Obamacare isn't what they claim and we're all being scammed by the Obama administration. We'd probably suffer less damage with the scammers because then we only lose money. With the Obama administration, we will lose our money and our freedom.

It's amazing that the crooks have managed to build websites in a hurry, probably for cheap, that can handle traffic and help them steal people's identities and money. If anyone here has gone to an Obamacare website and it actually worked, you were likely at one of the fake ones since the real one is shit.

For years, private companies had websites to help people compare costs and benefits of various health insurers. They helped millions sign up for health care insurance. Of course, the socialist-in-chief refused to allow any private businesses to take part in this. He wanted the government in charge of everything. Obama, like most dictators, is real big on central planning, a concept that has never worked and never will.

We are screwed if we don't send some Dems packing.

Leave it to the Right to lie about the lying. lol

At least we aren't responsible for denying this woman the insurance she needs to stay alive.

http://www.usmessageboard.com/politics/322558-edie-littlefield-sunby-remember-the-name.html
 
The lies continue.

First he said we can keep what we have if we like it.

He said costs would go down $2,500 a year for each family.

He said everyone would be insured.

He said illegal aliens would not be covered.

Then he said again and again and again that we could keep our plan and our doctor if we liked them.

Then the left claimed that is not what he said.

Then the left claimed he knowingly lied because the ends justify the means.

Now some on the left are blaming Republicans for the lie. Or maybe they blame the people because no one would have supported Obamacare if anyone had bothered to read it before they passed it.

Now that people are losing their care, the left claims that people were so damn stupid, they didn't even know they had a crap plan.

They actually expect people to be happy to get a plan they would not pick for themselves and pay a much higher cost.

So many people lost their insurance and cannot afford it now because the liberals made one of the worst laws in American history.

People are seeing their rates double and even triple and the deductible is way higher. Of course, many have no choice but to go without insurance and pay the penalty, which is just a fine and NOT a tax. We don't use taxes as punishment and Obama lied about that, too.

What will the spin be tomorrow?

The left also likes to claim that it's just a glitch on the Obamacare website and they are hiring the best people to fix it. They should have allowed the best people to address the healthcare problems we have instead of trying it themselves.

A glitch is just a minor annoyance. Many things have glitches, like cell phones, but for the most part they work as intended.

The Obamacare website doesn't have a glitch, it has a bitch who fucked up big time.

It's not secure and I pity anyone who goes to the site and types in their personal information. There are around 700 scam websites, according to John McAfee (McAfee software). He was asked to fix the Obamacare website, but refused because he said they would never agree to doing what was needed- scrapping the whole thing and starting over. They didn't take people's privacy into account at all. They spent hundreds of millions to have Michelle Obama's inept friend build the site, but didn't spend a couple thousand to buy up all the names that were similar to the actual website. That would have been something of a safeguard against some of the fraudulent websites.

Of course, I think the real site is nothing but a fraud because Obamacare isn't what they claim and we're all being scammed by the Obama administration. We'd probably suffer less damage with the scammers because then we only lose money. With the Obama administration, we will lose our money and our freedom.

It's amazing that the crooks have managed to build websites in a hurry, probably for cheap, that can handle traffic and help them steal people's identities and money. If anyone here has gone to an Obamacare website and it actually worked, you were likely at one of the fake ones since the real one is shit.

For years, private companies had websites to help people compare costs and benefits of various health insurers. They helped millions sign up for health care insurance. Of course, the socialist-in-chief refused to allow any private businesses to take part in this. He wanted the government in charge of everything. Obama, like most dictators, is real big on central planning, a concept that has never worked and never will.

We are screwed if we don't send some Dems packing.

Leave it to the Right to lie about the lying. lol

At least we aren't responsible for denying this woman the insurance she needs to stay alive.

http://www.usmessageboard.com/politics/322558-edie-littlefield-sunby-remember-the-name.html

That was an artful way of calling Clementine a liar.
 
...you prove that you're unable to think for yourself.

The lies continue.

First he said we can keep what we have if we like it.

He said costs would go down $2,500 a year for each family.

He said everyone would be insured.

He said illegal aliens would not be covered.

Then he said again and again and again that we could keep our plan and our doctor if we liked them.

Then the left claimed that is not what he said.

Then the left claimed he knowingly lied because the ends justify the means.

Now some on the left are blaming Republicans for the lie. Or maybe they blame the people because no one would have supported Obamacare if anyone had bothered to read it before they passed it.

Now that people are losing their care, the left claims that people were so damn stupid, they didn't even know they had a crap plan.

They actually expect people to be happy to get a plan they would not pick for themselves and pay a much higher cost.

So many people lost their insurance and cannot afford it now because the liberals made one of the worst laws in American history.

People are seeing their rates double and even triple and the deductible is way higher. Of course, many have no choice but to go without insurance and pay the penalty, which is just a fine and NOT a tax. We don't use taxes as punishment and Obama lied about that, too.

What will the spin be tomorrow?

The left also likes to claim that it's just a glitch on the Obamacare website and they are hiring the best people to fix it. They should have allowed the best people to address the healthcare problems we have instead of trying it themselves.

A glitch is just a minor annoyance. Many things have glitches, like cell phones, but for the most part they work as intended.

The Obamacare website doesn't have a glitch, it has a bitch who fucked up big time.

It's not secure and I pity anyone who goes to the site and types in their personal information. There are around 700 scam websites, according to John McAfee (McAfee software). He was asked to fix the Obamacare website, but refused because he said they would never agree to doing what was needed- scrapping the whole thing and starting over. They didn't take people's privacy into account at all. They spent hundreds of millions to have Michelle Obama's inept friend build the site, but didn't spend a couple thousand to buy up all the names that were similar to the actual website. That would have been something of a safeguard against some of the fraudulent websites.

Of course, I think the real site is nothing but a fraud because Obamacare isn't what they claim and we're all being scammed by the Obama administration. We'd probably suffer less damage with the scammers because then we only lose money. With the Obama administration, we will lose our money and our freedom.

It's amazing that the crooks have managed to build websites in a hurry, probably for cheap, that can handle traffic and help them steal people's identities and money. If anyone here has gone to an Obamacare website and it actually worked, you were likely at one of the fake ones since the real one is shit.

For years, private companies had websites to help people compare costs and benefits of various health insurers. They helped millions sign up for health care insurance. Of course, the socialist-in-chief refused to allow any private businesses to take part in this. He wanted the government in charge of everything. Obama, like most dictators, is real big on central planning, a concept that has never worked and never will.

We are screwed if we don't send some Dems packing.


It's not a stretch to agree with Romney here. Obama is (literally) destroying any legacy he "might" have had by his continual lying to protect this worthless piece of legislation.

Do I care? Absolutely not! I knew that Obama was a poseur from the beginning. It's not news to me. Like I have stated repeatedly in this, and other posts: This will be the death of democrats in the upcoming election cycles. I love it!! :lol:
 
...you prove that you're unable to think for yourself.

The lies continue.

First he said we can keep what we have if we like it.

He said costs would go down $2,500 a year for each family.

He said everyone would be insured.

He said illegal aliens would not be covered.

Then he said again and again and again that we could keep our plan and our doctor if we liked them.

Then the left claimed that is not what he said.

Then the left claimed he knowingly lied because the ends justify the means.

Now some on the left are blaming Republicans for the lie. Or maybe they blame the people because no one would have supported Obamacare if anyone had bothered to read it before they passed it.

Now that people are losing their care, the left claims that people were so damn stupid, they didn't even know they had a crap plan.

They actually expect people to be happy to get a plan they would not pick for themselves and pay a much higher cost.

So many people lost their insurance and cannot afford it now because the liberals made one of the worst laws in American history.

People are seeing their rates double and even triple and the deductible is way higher. Of course, many have no choice but to go without insurance and pay the penalty, which is just a fine and NOT a tax. We don't use taxes as punishment and Obama lied about that, too.

What will the spin be tomorrow?

The left also likes to claim that it's just a glitch on the Obamacare website and they are hiring the best people to fix it. They should have allowed the best people to address the healthcare problems we have instead of trying it themselves.

A glitch is just a minor annoyance. Many things have glitches, like cell phones, but for the most part they work as intended.

The Obamacare website doesn't have a glitch, it has a bitch who fucked up big time.

It's not secure and I pity anyone who goes to the site and types in their personal information. There are around 700 scam websites, according to John McAfee (McAfee software). He was asked to fix the Obamacare website, but refused because he said they would never agree to doing what was needed- scrapping the whole thing and starting over. They didn't take people's privacy into account at all. They spent hundreds of millions to have Michelle Obama's inept friend build the site, but didn't spend a couple thousand to buy up all the names that were similar to the actual website. That would have been something of a safeguard against some of the fraudulent websites.

Of course, I think the real site is nothing but a fraud because Obamacare isn't what they claim and we're all being scammed by the Obama administration. We'd probably suffer less damage with the scammers because then we only lose money. With the Obama administration, we will lose our money and our freedom.

It's amazing that the crooks have managed to build websites in a hurry, probably for cheap, that can handle traffic and help them steal people's identities and money. If anyone here has gone to an Obamacare website and it actually worked, you were likely at one of the fake ones since the real one is shit.

For years, private companies had websites to help people compare costs and benefits of various health insurers. They helped millions sign up for health care insurance. Of course, the socialist-in-chief refused to allow any private businesses to take part in this. He wanted the government in charge of everything. Obama, like most dictators, is real big on central planning, a concept that has never worked and never will.

We are screwed if we don't send some Dems packing.

Leave it to the Right to lie about the lying. lol

I think you're lying about lying.
 
...you prove that you're unable to think for yourself.

The lies continue.

First he said we can keep what we have if we like it.

He said costs would go down $2,500 a year for each family.

He said everyone would be insured.

He said illegal aliens would not be covered.

Then he said again and again and again that we could keep our plan and our doctor if we liked them.

Then the left claimed that is not what he said.

Then the left claimed he knowingly lied because the ends justify the means.

Now some on the left are blaming Republicans for the lie. Or maybe they blame the people because no one would have supported Obamacare if anyone had bothered to read it before they passed it.

Now that people are losing their care, the left claims that people were so damn stupid, they didn't even know they had a crap plan.

They actually expect people to be happy to get a plan they would not pick for themselves and pay a much higher cost.

So many people lost their insurance and cannot afford it now because the liberals made one of the worst laws in American history.

People are seeing their rates double and even triple and the deductible is way higher. Of course, many have no choice but to go without insurance and pay the penalty, which is just a fine and NOT a tax. We don't use taxes as punishment and Obama lied about that, too.

What will the spin be tomorrow?

The left also likes to claim that it's just a glitch on the Obamacare website and they are hiring the best people to fix it. They should have allowed the best people to address the healthcare problems we have instead of trying it themselves.

A glitch is just a minor annoyance. Many things have glitches, like cell phones, but for the most part they work as intended.

The Obamacare website doesn't have a glitch, it has a bitch who fucked up big time.

It's not secure and I pity anyone who goes to the site and types in their personal information. There are around 700 scam websites, according to John McAfee (McAfee software). He was asked to fix the Obamacare website, but refused because he said they would never agree to doing what was needed- scrapping the whole thing and starting over. They didn't take people's privacy into account at all. They spent hundreds of millions to have Michelle Obama's inept friend build the site, but didn't spend a couple thousand to buy up all the names that were similar to the actual website. That would have been something of a safeguard against some of the fraudulent websites.

Of course, I think the real site is nothing but a fraud because Obamacare isn't what they claim and we're all being scammed by the Obama administration. We'd probably suffer less damage with the scammers because then we only lose money. With the Obama administration, we will lose our money and our freedom.

It's amazing that the crooks have managed to build websites in a hurry, probably for cheap, that can handle traffic and help them steal people's identities and money. If anyone here has gone to an Obamacare website and it actually worked, you were likely at one of the fake ones since the real one is shit.

For years, private companies had websites to help people compare costs and benefits of various health insurers. They helped millions sign up for health care insurance. Of course, the socialist-in-chief refused to allow any private businesses to take part in this. He wanted the government in charge of everything. Obama, like most dictators, is real big on central planning, a concept that has never worked and never will.

We are screwed if we don't send some Dems packing.

Leave it to the Right to lie about the lying. lol
And yet, oddly, you have nothing but your say so, which is eerily similar to every other progressive's say so, that they are indeed lies.
 
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Junk health insurance
Stingy plans may be worse than none at all
Consumer Reports magazine: March 2012

It might seem to be health insurance, if you don’t look too closely, and most people don’t. The premiums are surprisingly affordable. And so millions of unemployed people, service industry workers, and those taken in by fast-talking telemarketers sign up. They may think they’re insured—until they have a medical problem and find out that their coverage is as skimpy as a hospital gown.

The Affordable Care Act was supposed to usher in a new era of consumer-friendly health care. For instance, insurers are no longer allowed to put outrageously low limits on the amount they pay out for medical care in a year or lifetime.

While millions of Americans have benefited from that and other reforms, many are still prey to the kind of skimpy “junk” plans the new law was designed to eliminate. Some plans, known as mini-meds, are operated by employers and brand-name insurance companies with special dispensation from the federal government. Others, such as health discount cards and fixed benefit indemnity plans, from companies you’ve probably never heard of, are so meager that regulators don’t consider them to be health insurance at all—though that’s frequently not clear to consumers. And some of the companies operate one step ahead of the law.

Cheap Health Insurance - Consumer Reports

If an individual bought cheap coverage from a small obscure insurance company thinking the shockingly low premiums were going to give them the same benefits as a major insurer with a proven track record, that is the fault of the purchaser.
For things as vitally important as health insurance, it is imperative they READ the policy before buying.
Or is that too much to ask?....For people to act respsonsibly...
 
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Junk health insurance
Stingy plans may be worse than none at all
Consumer Reports magazine: March 2012

It might seem to be health insurance, if you don’t look too closely, and most people don’t. The premiums are surprisingly affordable. And so millions of unemployed people, service industry workers, and those taken in by fast-talking telemarketers sign up. They may think they’re insured—until they have a medical problem and find out that their coverage is as skimpy as a hospital gown.

The Affordable Care Act was supposed to usher in a new era of consumer-friendly health care. For instance, insurers are no longer allowed to put outrageously low limits on the amount they pay out for medical care in a year or lifetime.

While millions of Americans have benefited from that and other reforms, many are still prey to the kind of skimpy “junk” plans the new law was designed to eliminate. Some plans, known as mini-meds, are operated by employers and brand-name insurance companies with special dispensation from the federal government. Others, such as health discount cards and fixed benefit indemnity plans, from companies you’ve probably never heard of, are so meager that regulators don’t consider them to be health insurance at all—though that’s frequently not clear to consumers. And some of the companies operate one step ahead of the law.

Cheap Health Insurance - Consumer Reports

If an individual bought cheap coverage from a small obscure insurance company thinking the shockingly low premiums were going to give them the same benefits as a major insurer with a proven track record, that is the fault of the purchaser.
For things as vitally important as health insurance, it is imperative they READ the policy before buying.
Or is that too much to ask?....For people to act respsonsibly...

Actually that's racism.
 
Yes, but if I post one daveman will say I need to post millions, one by one.
When have I ever said you need to post millions of anything, one by one?

Oh, that's right, never. That's you being typically dishonest and factually incorrect.

Well let's just see what you say, to this example:

A Republican Discovers He Likes Obamacare - Business Insider

Here's the problem - this is not a Republican or Democrat or Green Party, etc, etc, etc issue.

It's a people issue.

Come back to the States and sign up for your new health insurance plan, which may not effect you personally, since I'm not aware of your current health insurance situation.
 
Yes, but if I post one daveman will say I need to post millions, one by one.
When have I ever said you need to post millions of anything, one by one?

Oh, that's right, never. That's you being typically dishonest and factually incorrect.

Well let's just see what you say, to this example:

A Republican Discovers He Likes Obamacare - Business Insider
I don't need to say anything. All I have to do is highlight something:
The plan he just bought on the Arkansas state exchange has a $0 premium (after the government subsidy he gets because of his low income level) and only a $750 deductible. It's also a "Silver" plan, which has much better benefits than the vastly more expensive "Bronze" plan he ditched.​
 

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