Illinois Court To Hear Case Challenging Cruz's Presidential Eligibility

[Syriusly]

Cruz needs to drop out for the good of the Republican Party anyway. If Cruz drops out most of his supporters most likely goto Rubio. Rubio then over takes Trump and he polls well against Hillary.

Two problems for Rubio with evangelicals...after the gay marriage ads took pounds of flesh from Trump....

1. Rubio was raised (spent his formative years) in Las Vegas: land of outright acceptance and promotion of all things debauchery and anti-evangelical.

2. One of Rubio's top campaign staff is an ardent gay marriage supporter.

Two strikes.

If the GOP wants to defeat Trump's conservative evangelical edge, Rubio has deadly vulnerabilities.

Rich Beeson, a deputy campaign manager for Sen. Marco Rubio, is causing a bit of a stir among the conservative evangelical crowd after reports surfaced he signed a petition pressing the U.S. Supreme Court to side with the pro-“gay” marriage plaintiffs in the landmark case Obergefell v. Hodges....Rubio didn’t sign the brief, which staffers with other Republican presidential campaigns, both past and present, have also signed. But Rubio, according to LifeSite News, has other ties to homosexual activists that, when combined with his campaign staffer’s signature, could prove problematic for the public-relations image he’s worked to create as a supporter of traditional marriage. ‘Gay’-marriage skeletons pop out of Rubio, Cruz closets

Not that anyone cares.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

'Lawrence Joyce filed a complaint with the Illinois Board of Elections charging that Cruz is not a "natural born citizen." The board of elections ruled against Joyce earlier in February, writing that Cruz "is a natural born citizen by virtue of being born in Canada to his mother who was a U.S. citizen at the time of his birth as the candidate did not have to take any steps or go through a naturalization process at some point after his birth."'

Correct.

If one did not realize his citizenship through the naturalization process, then he is a natural born citizen.

There are only two types of citizen: natural born and naturalized.

 

[Skylar]

Thank you for pointing out that President Obama is a natural born citizen.

Sorry, Obama is not a natural born Citizen.

Says who? Not your source.

Q: May any person be chosen as president of the United States?

A: Not every person. None may be chosen unless he has been born in the United States or was a citizen when the constitution was agreed to, nor can anyone be chosen if he is less than 35 years old, or if he has not recided in the United States for 14 years.

- The Constitution of the United States by Authur J. Stanbury

So can you just highlight that requirements listed by your source that Obama doesn't meet?

 

[Skylar]

'Lawrence Joyce filed a complaint with the Illinois Board of Elections charging that Cruz is not a "natural born citizen." The board of elections ruled against Joyce earlier in February, writing that Cruz "is a natural born citizen by virtue of being born in Canada to his mother who was a U.S. citizen at the time of his birth as the candidate did not have to take any steps or go through a naturalization process at some point after his birth."'

Correct.

If one did not realize his citizenship through the naturalization process, then he is a natural born citizen.

There are only two types of citizen: natural born and naturalized.

Not if you're using an originalist interpretation, as Cruz does.

 

[Steve_McGarrett]

Thank you for pointing out that President Obama is a natural born citizen.

Sorry, Obama is not a natural born Citizen.

According to you- and your citation- President Obama is a natural born citizen.

So the option is:

a) You lied when you posted this citation attacking Cruz's eligibility
b) You lied when you claimed Obama is ineligible or
c) You just lie all the time.

[/QUOTE]
There is no proof Obama was born in the U.S. since a lengthy investigation under the authority of the Maricopa County Sheriffs Office found his long form birth certificate to be a 100% forgery. The birth announcements only say the baby was born, not where.

I say he was born in Canada, but then we have this.

 

[Steve_McGarrett]

Thank you for pointing out that President Obama is a natural born citizen.

Sorry, Obama is not a natural born Citizen.

Why not?

His birth was governed by the British Act of 1948.

His mother was an American, and he was born in Hawaii. The British have nothing to do with it.

Even if you contend that he was born outside the U.S., his situation would be exactly like Cruz. Is Cruz a natural born citizen?

Cruz is not a natural born citizen.

 

[Skylar]

There is no proof Obama was born in the U.S. since a lengthy investigation under the authority of the Maricopa County Sheriffs Office found his long form birth certificate to be a 100% forgery. The birth announcements only say the baby was born, not where.

Then show us the official police report from Maricopa County Sherriff's office saying this. Its been....4 years. And still nothing.

With the Registar of the State of Hawaii affirming that the information on the image of Obama's birth certificate on the White House Website matches their original records.

And that Obama was born in Hawaii.

Sorry, Stephen....but you just destroyed your own argument. As your own source affirms that your definition of 'natural born citizen' is wrong.

I say he was born in Canada, but then we have this.

With the editor of that pamphlet indicating that it was a fact checking error on her part. And that Obama never told her he was born in Kenya.

Which, of course, you know. But really hope we don't.

 

[Synthaholic]

Thank you for pointing out that President Obama is a natural born citizen.

Sorry, Obama is not a natural born Citizen.

Why not?

His birth was governed by the British Act of 1948.

His mother was an American, and he was born in Hawaii. The British have nothing to do with it.

Even if you contend that he was born outside the U.S., his situation would be exactly like Cruz. Is Cruz a natural born citizen?

Cruz is not a natural born citizen.

Then why doesn't Trump file a lawsuit?

 

[Fang]

Cruz needs to drop out for the good of the Republican Party anyway. If Cruz drops out most of his supporters most likely goto Rubio. Rubio then over takes Trump and he polls well against Hillary.

Two problems for Rubio with evangelicals...after the gay marriage ads took pounds of flesh from Trump....

1. Rubio was raised (spent his formative years) in Las Vegas: land of outright acceptance and promotion of all things debauchery and anti-evangelical.

2. One of Rubio's top campaign staff is an ardent gay marriage supporter.

Two strikes.

If the GOP wants to defeat Trump's conservative evangelical edge, Rubio has deadly vulnerabilities.

Rich Beeson, a deputy campaign manager for Sen. Marco Rubio, is causing a bit of a stir among the conservative evangelical crowd after reports surfaced he signed a petition pressing the U.S. Supreme Court to side with the pro-“gay” marriage plaintiffs in the landmark case Obergefell v. Hodges....Rubio didn’t sign the brief, which staffers with other Republican presidential campaigns, both past and present, have also signed. But Rubio, according to LifeSite News, has other ties to homosexual activists that, when combined with his campaign staffer’s signature, could prove problematic for the public-relations image he’s worked to create as a supporter of traditional marriage. ‘Gay’-marriage skeletons pop out of Rubio, Cruz closets

Republicans need to get over the gay marriage thing. It's the law now. Rubio beats Hillary head to head, Trump does not.

 

[Avatar4321]

So he is worried about lawsuits, so he starts one. Anyone see an inconsistency there?

Oh well, he doesn't have standing

 

[SwimExpert]

Interesting fallout from all this New Birfer movement.....

If at some point America's Kenyan President is ruled simply not President - merely Kenyan.....

And if said (no longer) "president" had managed to get a supreme court justice approved.....

Then would not said "Justice" be out and any decision he/she/it participated in voided?

 

[Syriusly]

Thank you for pointing out that President Obama is a natural born citizen.

Sorry, Obama is not a natural born Citizen.

According to you- and your citation- President Obama is a natural born citizen.

So the option is:

a) You lied when you posted this citation attacking Cruz's eligibility
b) You lied when you claimed Obama is ineligible or
c) You just lie all the time.

There is no proof Obama was born in the U.S.[/QUOTE]

There is absolute legal proof that President Obama was born in the United States- more proof than we have for Trump, for Rubio or for any GOP candidate.

You just won't accept it for the same reason as you won't accept Cruz or Rubio- because none of them are white enough for you.

 

[Syriusly]

Thank you for pointing out that President Obama is a natural born citizen.

Sorry, Obama is not a natural born Citizen.

Says who? Not your source.

Q: May any person be chosen as president of the United States?

A: Not every person. None may be chosen unless he has been born in the United States or was a citizen when the constitution was agreed to, nor can anyone be chosen if he is less than 35 years old, or if he has not recided in the United States for 14 years.

- The Constitution of the United States by Authur J. Stanbury

So can you just highlight that requirements listed by your source that Obama doesn't meet?

Actually my favorite example of Stevie the racist in action was him posting that in opposition to Cruz- and then arguing that Rubio is ineligible

Q: May any person be chosen as president of the United States?

A: Not every person. None may be chosen unless he has been born in the United States or was a citizen when the constitution was agreed to, nor can anyone be chosen if he is less than 35 years old, or if he has not recided in the United States for 14 years.

- The Constitution of the United States by Authur J. Stanbury

Stevie thinks that President Obama, Senator Cruz and Senator Rubio are all ineligible- because none of them meet his racial purity test.