I'm kinda glad I won't be around to see how you climatechangeevangelistas will handle this!

[healthmyths]

There are over 2,605,331 miles of paved road in the United States

3,980,817 miles | Institute for Transportation

posted on November 1, 2017 The United States has a lot of roads—3,980,817 miles to be exact. Roads are relatively simple but make a big impact, and they exist nearly everywhere…

intrans.iastate.edu

When combined with the heat released by vehicle engines, paved areas can boost the temperature in cities by as much as 22°F, according to the Environmental Protection Agency.

The number of urban dwellers worldwide is rising by as much as 78 million people annually, according to the United Nations Population Division. That’s the equivalent of adding nine New York Cities to the planet every single year.

Feeling the Heat? Blame Concrete

There's a good case to be made that we should stop using concrete in our cities—if only we had another option.

time.com

More than 4 billion tons of cement were produced in 2021, contributing 8% of global CO2 emissions, according to think tank Chatham House.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/16/world/concrete-carbon-emissions-researchers-working-to-make-it-greener-climate-scn-spc/index.html

So while all you try to fix CO2 emissions with EVs you will still need concrete and the net effect of how that increases "climate change" is yet to be seen.
My whole point of this post is simple...
why are we so worried about 422 ppm CO2 when 1/2 billion years ago the world was living successfully at 7,000 PPM!
Some 500 million years ago, when the number of living things in the oceans exploded and creatures first stepped on land, the ancient atmosphere happened to be rich with about 7,000 ppm of carbon dioxide. "

How the World Passed a Carbon Threshold and Why It Matters

Last year marked the first time in several million years that atmospheric concentrations of CO2 passed 400 parts per million. By looking at what Earth’s climate was like in previous eras of high CO2 levels, scientists are getting a sobering picture of where we are headed.

e360.yale.edu

No one has yet to answer that!

The floor is lava

How concrete, asphalt and urban heat islands add to the misery of heat waves

www.reuters.com

 

[justoffal]

There are over 2,605,331 miles of paved road in the United States

3,980,817 miles | Institute for Transportation

posted on November 1, 2017 The United States has a lot of roads—3,980,817 miles to be exact. Roads are relatively simple but make a big impact, and they exist nearly everywhere…

intrans.iastate.edu

When combined with the heat released by vehicle engines, paved areas can boost the temperature in cities by as much as 22°F, according to the Environmental Protection Agency.

The number of urban dwellers worldwide is rising by as much as 78 million people annually, according to the United Nations Population Division. That’s the equivalent of adding nine New York Cities to the planet every single year.

Feeling the Heat? Blame Concrete

There's a good case to be made that we should stop using concrete in our cities—if only we had another option.

time.com

More than 4 billion tons of cement were produced in 2021, contributing 8% of global CO2 emissions, according to think tank Chatham House.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/16/world/concrete-carbon-emissions-researchers-working-to-make-it-greener-climate-scn-spc/index.html

So while all you try to fix CO2 emissions with EVs you will still need concrete and the net effect of how that increases "climate change" is yet to be seen.
My whole point of this post is simple...
why are we so worried about 422 ppm CO2 when 1/2 billion years ago the world was living successfully at 7,000 PPM!
Some 500 million years ago, when the number of living things in the oceans exploded and creatures first stepped on land, the ancient atmosphere happened to be rich with about 7,000 ppm of carbon dioxide. "

How the World Passed a Carbon Threshold and Why It Matters

Last year marked the first time in several million years that atmospheric concentrations of CO2 passed 400 parts per million. By looking at what Earth’s climate was like in previous eras of high CO2 levels, scientists are getting a sobering picture of where we are headed.

e360.yale.edu

No one has yet to answer that!

View attachment 992794

The floor is lava

How concrete, asphalt and urban heat islands add to the misery of heat waves

www.reuters.com

Besides being a tremendous heat trap the paved roads reduce the albedo of the local areas.

 

[elektra]

Wind turbines need millions of tons of concrete

Solar farms create as much heat as roads

 

[healthmyths]

Besides being a tremendous heat trap the paved roads reduce the albedo of the local areas.

Ok I've 3 choices:
albedo /ăl-bē′dō/ noun

1. The fraction of incident electromagnetic radiation reflected by a surface, especially of a celestial body.
2. The spongy white tissue on the inside of the rind of citrus fruit.
3. Whiteness

Albedo - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

Besides being a tremendous heat trap the paved roads reduce the albedo of the local areas.

Paved roads cause ED?

 

[healthmyths]

Wind turbines need millions of tons of concrete

Solar farms create as much heat as roads

So what should YOU that are far younger than me going to do?
Build "space ships" called "NOAH"?

 

[healthmyths]

Paved roads cause ED?

According to the Albedo - Wikipedia
Albedo (/ælˈbiːdoʊ/ al-BEE-doh; from Latin albedo 'whiteness') is the fraction of sunlight that is diffusely reflected by a body. It is measured on a scale from 0 (corresponding to a black body that absorbs all incident radiation) to 1 (corresponding to a body that reflects all incident radiation).

And is not a sexual dysfunction.

 

[justoffal]

Paved roads cause ED?

Lol.....albedo not libido.....

 

[Plagerist]

Yep. Urban heat effect.

 

[justoffal]

According to the Albedo - Wikipedia
Albedo (/ælˈbiːdoʊ/ al-BEE-doh; from Latin albedo 'whiteness') is the fraction of sunlight that is diffusely reflected by a body. It is measured on a scale from 0 (corresponding to a black body that absorbs all incident radiation) to 1 (corresponding to a body that reflects all incident radiation).

And is not a sexual dysfunction.

Still.... You gotta admit it's worth a laugh. Sounds close enough. Though I suppose it's possible that albedo and libido could be interactive. After all we are constantly lectured about the health of sunlight as long as it's taken in moderation. ED could just as easily stand for energy distribution!

 

[john doe 101]

So what should YOU that are far younger than me going to do?
Build "space ships" called "NOAH"?

Rejoice that you don't have much longer to make these dumb posts.

 

[mamooth]

So what should YOU that are far younger than me going to do?

Check it out.

This one just found that paved surfaces increase temperature, something the rest of us have know our whole lives.

And why does he think this is a problem for the reality-based people?

My whole point of this post is simple...
why are we so worried about 422 ppm CO2 when 1/2 billion years ago the world was living successfully at 7,000 PPM!
Some 500 million years ago, when the number of living things in the oceans exploded and creatures first stepped on land, the ancient atmosphere happened to be rich with about 7,000 ppm of carbon dioxide. "

His conclusion there has nothing to do with pavement, leaving us to wonder why he ranted about pavement.

His conclusion is stupid for a different reason, of course, in that it assumes CO2 is the only thing affecting climate. Needless to say, none of the normal people think CO2 is the only thing affecting climate, so we have no problem with the seemingly unsolvable conundrum he thinks he presented.

 

[justoffal]

Check it out.

This one just found that paved surfaces increase temperature, something the rest of us have know our whole lives.

And why does he think this is a problem for the reality-based people?


His conclusion there has nothing to do with pavement, leaving us to wonder why he ranted about pavement.

His conclusion is stupid for a different reason, of course, in that it assumes CO2 is the only thing affecting climate. Needless to say, none of the normal people think CO2 is the only thing affecting climate, so we have no problem with the seemingly unsolvable conundrum he thinks he presented.

Of course you have a problem with it. It blows the global warming hypothesis out of the water by introducing numerous uncontrollable variables that have as of yet not been blended into the equation. Additionally despite the fact that they continue to insist that solar radiation has not increased that also doesn't really pan out to be true. It's always increasing.

 

[mamooth]

Of course you have a problem with it. It blows the global warming hypothesis out of the water by introducing numerous uncontrollable variables that have as of yet not been blended into the equation.

Where did you get the cuckoobananas notion that albedo isn't taken into effect?

If someone told you that, they lied to your face. You should take them to task, and demand to know why they lied to you like that.

But you won't. You're going to run back to your masters, kneel at their feet, lick their boots with gusto, thank them for lying to you, and beg for more lies.

Additionally despite the fact that they continue to insist that solar radiation has not increased that also doesn't really pan out to be true. It's always increasing.

Well, yeah, over a scale of a hundred million years, it's always increasing. But lately, it's been slightly decreased, blowing away the "DERP! IT'S THE SUN!" theory.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

healthmyths so does not understand the issue.

 

[justoffal]

Where did you get the cuckoobananas notion that albedo isn't taken into effect?

If someone told you that, they lied to your face. You should take them to task, and demand to know why they lied to you like that.

But you won't. You're going to run back to your masters, kneel at their feet, lick their boots with gusto, thank them for lying to you, and beg for more lies.


Well, yeah, over a scale of a hundred million years, it's always increasing. But lately, it's been slightly decreased, blowing away the "DERP! IT'S THE SUN!" theory

Refamiliarize yourself with the laws of thermodynamics. The ridiculous claim that solar radiation has been reduced is more than nuts.

 

[mamooth]

Refamiliarize yourself with the laws of thermodynamics. The ridiculous claim that solar radiation has been reduced is more than nuts.

We got a live one here, one who thinks all the actual data is a conspiracy!

 

[justoffal]

We got a live one here, one who thinks all the actual data is a conspiracy!

I knew you would go for that chart..looked it up before you did. It's mainly concerned with sunspots not with the sun's progression towards red giant.

We don't simply receive light energy from the Sun we receive several other types of energy which are constantly on the rise

The Earth's magnetic field is constantly being bullied about by the Sun's own magnetic output. It too has an effect on how much energy reaches planet surface.

At 330,000 times our mass
Even a miniscule increase can translate into a major energy transfer.

 

[mamooth]

I knew you would go for that chart..looked it up before you did. It's mainly concerned with sunspots not with the sun's progression towards red giant.

Which, again, happens at a scale of a 1% increase every 100 million years, so it's not something anyone cares about right now.

Again, the actual data shows a slight decrease in solar output. Solar factors are trying to make the earth cool a bit.

We don't simply receive light energy from the Sun we receive several other types of energy which are constantly on the rise

So you declare there's some magical factor that we just don't know about which is causing the warming.

That's not science. That's invoking unknown magic, which is the opposite of science. It's exactly like claiming that the fairies must have done it, since nobody can prove otherwise.

The Earth's magnetic field is constantly being bullied about by the Sun's own magnetic output. It too has an effect on how much energy reaches planet surface.

In the past, full reversals of earth's magnetic field have had no effect on climate. You're just flailing now.

At 330,000 times our mass
Even a miniscule increase can translate into a major energy transfer.

Then name the specific factor. Show data that supports your claim. Again, as it stands now, you're just invoking magic.