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It's clear that some idiots posting here don't understand my country at all (given that we are a nation built upon shared principles, this means that in a very important sense such people cannot be considered real Americans). I think there is one delusional fool who actually keeps repeating some nonsense about the capacity of the nation remaining unchanged since 1860 or some such idiocy. There are some real headcases out there. Fortunately, those who are that far gone off the deep end are a minority among my fellow Americans.
Are you in favor of granting the 12,000,000 current Illegal Aliens a path to citizenship?If you are looking for a "pro-illegals crowd" to argue with you'll have to seek elsewhere, because I haven't seen one on this thread at least.
No, thanks for asking. Do you recognize the fact that anyone born in the US is a US citizen?
Good...Wake up now. We fell below replacement levels of fertility in 2007. Our overall population is about holding steady because of our high rate of immigration.
A painless way to reduce the population......
We don't need or (among thoughtful people) want to reduce the population, you idiot. What do you think is driving FDR's stupid idea into insolvency already?
Here are what I see as the HARMS of Immigration (in America). Feel free to dispute, debate, confirm, or whatever on any one or combination of these. This should be a good, rousing debate (but please try to stay on topic)
Harms of Immigration
1. Americans lose jobs. (especially Whites due to affirmative action).
2. Wage reduction.
3. Tax $ lost (due to off books work + lower wages paid).
4. Remittance $$$ lost. ($170 Billion year).
5. Tax $$ lost to immigrants on welfare.
6. Increased crime.
7. Increased traffic congestion.
8. Increased pollution.
9. Overcrowding in hospital ERs.
10. Overcrowding in recreational facilities.
11. Overcrowding in government offices.
12. Overcrowding in schools.
13. Decrease in funds available for entitlements.
14. Cultural erosion.
15. Overuse of scarce resources (oil, gasoline, fresh water, jobs, electricity, food, etc)
16. Introduction of foreign diseases
I agree, but it's not immigration, rather ILLEGAL immigration that is causing the problems. Our immigration laws limit the number of people who can become citizens and we have conditions. Illegals just come with no means of supporting themselves unless they steal identities and take jobs for low pay. They still get welfare on top of being paid under the table. We have tens of millions of illegals who had ten times more anchor babies to get welfare, so it's a population explosion and they are costing more than helping to carry the burden.
Here are what I see as the HARMS of Immigration (in America). Feel free to dispute, debate, confirm, or whatever on any one or combination of these. This should be a good, rousing debate (but please try to stay on topic)
Harms of Immigration
1. Americans lose jobs. (especially Whites due to affirmative action).
2. Wage reduction.
3. Tax $ lost (due to off books work + lower wages paid).
4. Remittance $$$ lost. ($170 Billion year).
5. Tax $$ lost to immigrants on welfare.
6. Increased crime.
7. Increased traffic congestion.
8. Increased pollution.
9. Overcrowding in hospital ERs.
10. Overcrowding in recreational facilities.
11. Overcrowding in government offices.
12. Overcrowding in schools.
13. Decrease in funds available for entitlements.
14. Cultural erosion.
15. Overuse of scarce resources (oil, gasoline, fresh water, jobs, electricity, food, etc)
16. Introduction of foreign diseases
I agree, but it's not immigration, rather ILLEGAL immigration that is causing the problems. Our immigration laws limit the number of people who can become citizens and we have conditions. Illegals just come with no means of supporting themselves unless they steal identities and take jobs for low pay. They still get welfare on top of being paid under the table. We have tens of millions of illegals who had ten times more anchor babies to get welfare, so it's a population explosion and they are costing more than helping to carry the burden.
If they steal identities, why would they work under the table? If they steal identities, don't they pay taxes? If they're working and making money, don't they spend it in the economy? If they're here and working illegally, someone had to hire them. And thus we have the answer to the problem.
If an employer knowing (within set standards) hires an illegal alien, the fine is $50 Million and 50 years in prison. Simple.
Good.
More elbow-room for the rest of us.
Next slide, please.
You are a myopic, illogical moron. I would encourage you to think about the consequences for a moment, but you are clearly incapable of such a feat.
NO, YOU apparently are the DIMWIT.The 2010 Census showed a population figure larger than 2000.
The 2000 Census showed a population figure larger than 1990.
The 1990 Census showed a population figure larger than 1980.
The 1980 Census...
You really are a dimwit...
Massive immigration always destroys the host nation. One would think humanity would be cognizant of that fact by now.
The truly ignorant think that because the land mass is still there, the country has not been destroyed. It's okay. It's still there. I'm standing on it.
Oh yes, it certainly destroyed the United States.
All those damned French, and Germans, and Dutch, and Japanese, and Chinese, and Vietnamese, and Italians, and Scotts, and Russians, and Norwegians, and Swedes, and Armenians.
And of course the Irish. Can't forget the Irish and all the horrors they inflicted upon the country when they migrated here.
Those from Spanish-speaking countries, watch Spanish TV, read Spanish newspapers, listen to Spanish radio, eat foreign foods (with supermarkets creating special sections for them), wear foreign clothes, participate in foreign sports, know nothing of American political or sports history, don't understand American law and customs, and generally are about as American as a kangaroo.
12. Has your wife ever been tested for foreign diseases ? Do you KNOW, by medical testing, that she has no diseases ? Typhoid Mary carried the Typhoid bacilli for decades, while exhibiting no symptoms herself, but during this time infecting hundreds of people, some of whom died of the disease.
Some people who seem to have dropped out of school before getting to US History apparently don't appreciate just how long and intensely some 'nativists' hated Irish immigrants to this country, or Catholics in general. And then there was the shameful Exclusion Act of 1882, which anyone who finished high school knows about. Other "ethnic identities" have wrongly been branded as a "harm" to the nation in the past and we have always ended up forced to admit error in judgment eventually.
And since some people seem to have the memory of a goldfish on crack, it must be stated yet again that the US is NOT "overpopulated."
Willful ignorance is a self-inflicted wound.
Or the Native American Party, commonly called the "Know Nothings" as well as the American Republican Party.
some people who seem to have dropped out of school before getting to us history apparently don't appreciate just how long and intensely some 'nativists' hated irish immigrants to this country, or catholics in general. And then there was the shameful exclusion act of 1882, which anyone who finished high school knows about. Other "ethnic identities" have wrongly been branded as a "harm" to the nation in the past and we have always ended up forced to admit error in judgment eventually.
And since some people seem to have the memory of a goldfish on crack, it must be stated yet again that the us is not "overpopulated."
willful ignorance is a self-inflicted wound.
12. Has your wife ever been tested for foreign diseases ? Do you KNOW, by medical testing, that she has no diseases ? Typhoid Mary carried the Typhoid bacilli for decades, while exhibiting no symptoms herself, but during this time infecting hundreds of people, some of whom died of the disease.
Wow, what a load of coprolite.
Well, my wife has been here for 35 years now, and we have been married for 28 years. SO I think if she was diseased it would have been obvious by now.
But you can get off your high-horse about her taking up your precious room in the ER. When she had cancer surgery 4 years ago, it was done in a military hospital. With a military doctor and military nurses. And any time she uses recreational facilities like campgrounds or a gym or anything else, it is with me on a military base.
There thankfully we are kept separate from the likes of rude bigots.
Oh, and as for #4, she has never sent a penny back to her "home country", nor has she ever visited it since she left. Nor does she ever intend to do so.
Why would she send money back to a country that tried to kill her entire family? Or want to visit it again? The US is her home now.
some people who seem to have dropped out of school before getting to us history apparently don't appreciate just how long and intensely some 'nativists' hated irish immigrants to this country, or catholics in general. And then there was the shameful exclusion act of 1882, which anyone who finished high school knows about. Other "ethnic identities" have wrongly been branded as a "harm" to the nation in the past and we have always ended up forced to admit error in judgment eventually.
And since some people seem to have the memory of a goldfish on crack, it must be stated yet again that the us is not "overpopulated."
willful ignorance is a self-inflicted wound.
Diversity is our strength! Didn't help the dirty jap [sic] bastards much in wwii [sic] did it?
