Impeach Obama If He Strikes Syria

[Wildman]

The Day an American President is thrown into jail?

Will be the day Democracy ends in America.

Bank on that.

that would be a really good thing after fighting for our independence and our forefathers declaring the United States of America a REPUBLIC, i see democracy as a BAD thing for America

not to mention the EVILNESS of a democracy.., which is basically a pack of wolves and a sheep deciding on what to have for dinner

In the Pledge of Allegiance we all pledge allegiance to our Republic, not to a democracy. "Republic" is the proper description of our government, not "democracy." I invite you to join me in raising public awareness regarding that distinction.
A republic and a democracy are identical in every aspect except one. In a republic the sovereignty is in each individual person. In a democracy the sovereignty is in the group.

READ THIS: Republic vs. Democracy

 

[georgephillip]

Multiple polls show US citizens opposed to more war for the New Middle East.
If Obama chooses the forces of "creative chaos" over the will of a majority of US voters, he should pay the ultimate political price for his arrogance. (And spend the rest of his life in a 6' by 10' cell)

Fortunately you and others on the right can’t be compelled to pay a price for your ignorance.

‘Arrogance’ is not an impeachable offense.

And the president would be acting legally and constitutionally should he order a strike over Congress’ objection.

We may not like these facts but they’re the facts nonetheless.

By what reasoning would "the president be acting legally and constitutionally should he order a strike (on Syria) over Congress' objection"?

 

[georgephillip]

I find it amusing reading the dismissive musings of our resident know-nothings when the name Noam Chomsky is mentioned.

"WASHINGTON -- A U.S.-led attack on Syria without United Nations support would be a war crime regardless of congressional approval, Noam Chomsky, the antiwar activist and author, said in response to President Barack Obama's announcement that he would seek Hill approval.

"'As international support for Obama’s decision to attack Syria has collapsed, along with the credibility of government claims, the administration has fallen back on a standard pretext for war crimes when all else fails: the credibility of the threats of the self-designated policeman of the world,' Chomsky told HuffPost in an email.

"Chomsky recently traveled to the region to learn more about the Syria crisis, and his comments there led some to believe he was open to military intervention if negotiations failed to produce peace. 'I believe you should choose the negotiating track first, and should you fail, then moving to the second option" -- backing the rebels -- "becomes more acceptable,' he said."

Noam Chomsky Weighs In On Syria Strike

 

[Camp]

Multiple polls show US citizens opposed to more war for the New Middle East.
If Obama chooses the forces of "creative chaos" over the will of a majority of US voters, he should pay the ultimate political price for his arrogance. (And spend the rest of his life in a 6' by 10' cell)

You are a democrat Ahmed. You love Obama but you WORSHIP arabs because you have a common enemy. The JOOOOOOOOOS

I'm not sufficiently ignorant to believe "choosing" between Republican OR Democrat changes the behavior of the Greatest Purveyor of Violence on the Planet. Why are you ?

America isn't the greatest purveryor of violence on the planet. Whoever produced and flooded the world with the AK-47 would be the greatest purveyor of violence. A close 2nd place would be the Shite and Sunni Muslims who have conducted and continue to conduct animal type warfare between each other. Killing of innocents is promoted and conducted as routine. Big difference between killing innocents in the crossfire or if a bomb miss's the target and accidently kills innoncents, and grown men sitting around planning and then executing on the plan to purposefuly blowing up of innocent men, women and children for revenge or to bring terror to a community. No, sorry, America is way behind in the field of purveying violence in the world.

 

[gallantwarrior]

I find it amusing reading the dismissive musings of our resident know-nothings when the name Noam Chomsky is mentioned.

"WASHINGTON -- A U.S.-led attack on Syria without United Nations support would be a war crime regardless of congressional approval, Noam Chomsky, the antiwar activist and author, said in response to President Barack Obama's announcement that he would seek Hill approval.

"'As international support for Obama’s decision to attack Syria has collapsed, along with the credibility of government claims, the administration has fallen back on a standard pretext for war crimes when all else fails: the credibility of the threats of the self-designated policeman of the world,' Chomsky told HuffPost in an email.

"Chomsky recently traveled to the region to learn more about the Syria crisis, and his comments there led some to believe he was open to military intervention if negotiations failed to produce peace. 'I believe you should choose the negotiating track first, and should you fail, then moving to the second option" -- backing the rebels -- "becomes more acceptable,' he said."

Noam Chomsky Weighs In On Syria Strike

I heard an interesting summary of the situation last night: we are going to kill Syrians in order to persuade Syrians not to kill other Syrians.

 

[georgephillip]

You are a democrat Ahmed. You love Obama but you WORSHIP arabs because you have a common enemy. The JOOOOOOOOOS

I'm not sufficiently ignorant to believe "choosing" between Republican OR Democrat changes the behavior of the Greatest Purveyor of Violence on the Planet. Why are you ?

America isn't the greatest purveryor of violence on the planet. Whoever produced and flooded the world with the AK-47 would be the greatest purveyor of violence. A close 2nd place would be the Shite and Sunni Muslims who have conducted and continue to conduct animal type warfare between each other. Killing of innocents is promoted and conducted as routine. Big difference between killing innocents in the crossfire or if a bomb miss's the target and accidently kills innoncents, and grown men sitting around planning and then executing on the plan to purposefuly blowing up of innocent men, women and children for revenge or to bring terror to a community. No, sorry, America is way behind in the field of purveying violence in the world.

Name another country that has maimed, murdered, displaced, and incarcerated millions of innocent people thousands of miles from its homeland since 1945; name another country currently practicing signature drone strikes.

 

[georgephillip]

The Day an American President is thrown into jail?

Will be the day Democracy ends in America.

Bank on that.

that would be a really good thing after fighting for our independence and our forefathers declaring the United States of America a REPUBLIC, i see democracy as a BAD thing for America

not to mention the EVILNESS of a democracy.., which is basically a pack of wolves and a sheep deciding on what to have for dinner

In the Pledge of Allegiance we all pledge allegiance to our Republic, not to a democracy. "Republic" is the proper description of our government, not "democracy." I invite you to join me in raising public awareness regarding that distinction.
A republic and a democracy are identical in every aspect except one. In a republic the sovereignty is in each individual person. In a democracy the sovereignty is in the group.

READ THIS: Republic vs. Democracy

"The report says the problems of the United States in the 1960s was the 'impulse of democracy is to make government less powerful and more active, to increase its functions, and to decrease its authority' and concludes these demands are contradictory.

"The impulse for the undermining of legitimacy was said to be done by new activism, an adversarial news media while the increase in government was said to be due to the Cold War defense budget and Great Society programs.

"Thus what is said to be needed is a 'balance is to be restored between governmental activity and governmental authority'.

"The effects of this 'excess of democracy' if not fixed are said to be an inability to maintain international trade, balanced budgets and 'hegemonic power' in the world."

The Crisis of Democracy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Do you think an "excess of democracy" that inhibits the US from enforcing a "hegemonic power" on the rest of the planet is Evil?

 

[Camp]

I'm not sufficiently ignorant to believe "choosing" between Republican OR Democrat changes the behavior of the Greatest Purveyor of Violence on the Planet. Why are you ?

America isn't the greatest purveryor of violence on the planet. Whoever produced and flooded the world with the AK-47 would be the greatest purveyor of violence. A close 2nd place would be the Shite and Sunni Muslims who have conducted and continue to conduct animal type warfare between each other. Killing of innocents is promoted and conducted as routine. Big difference between killing innocents in the crossfire or if a bomb miss's the target and accidently kills innoncents, and grown men sitting around planning and then executing on the plan to purposefuly blowing up of innocent men, women and children for revenge or to bring terror to a community. No, sorry, America is way behind in the field of purveying violence in the world.

Name another country that has maimed, murdered, displaced, and incarcerated millions of innocent people thousands of miles from its homeland since 1945; name another country currently practicing signature drone strikes.

You are changing the subject. We decided to be the world cops after WWII. If you don't like the job we have done, change it, but don't go on a rant about how we are some evil empire with malicious intent to inflict harm and committ worldwide crimes. How many wars have we prevented or brought to termination? How many times have we done things that prevented a larger war that would have drug us into it. The situation today is a good example. Perhaps not taking action against Syria is the right thing. But what it Syria attacks Israel or Turkey with chemical weapons? What if they attack one of them with conventional weapons and Israel or Turkey decide to retaliate? What if Iran decides to provide regular army troops and not just it's Iranian Gaurd? What if Iran decides to close the straights that allow the free flow and transportation of oil? Should we withdrawn our fleet from the Persian Gulf? It's easy to hate on cops. Until you need one.

 

[georgephillip]

I find it amusing reading the dismissive musings of our resident know-nothings when the name Noam Chomsky is mentioned.

"WASHINGTON -- A U.S.-led attack on Syria without United Nations support would be a war crime regardless of congressional approval, Noam Chomsky, the antiwar activist and author, said in response to President Barack Obama's announcement that he would seek Hill approval.

"'As international support for Obama’s decision to attack Syria has collapsed, along with the credibility of government claims, the administration has fallen back on a standard pretext for war crimes when all else fails: the credibility of the threats of the self-designated policeman of the world,' Chomsky told HuffPost in an email.

"Chomsky recently traveled to the region to learn more about the Syria crisis, and his comments there led some to believe he was open to military intervention if negotiations failed to produce peace. 'I believe you should choose the negotiating track first, and should you fail, then moving to the second option" -- backing the rebels -- "becomes more acceptable,' he said."

Noam Chomsky Weighs In On Syria Strike

I heard an interesting summary of the situation last night: we are going to kill Syrians in order to persuade Syrians not to kill other Syrians.

Iraqis, Libyan, Syrians and Lebanese and Persians were and are all highly susceptible to balkanization:

"The following are important excerpts and passages from former U.S. National Security Advisor Zbigniew Brzezinski’s book, The Grand Chessboard: American Primacy and Its Geo-strategic Imperatives.

"Brzezinski also states that both Turkey and Iran, the two most powerful states of the 'Eurasian Balkans,' located on its southern tier, are 'potentially vulnerable to internal ethnic conflicts [balkanization],' and that, 'If either or both of them were to be destabilized, the internal problems of the region would become unmanageable.'10

"It seems that a divided and balkanized Iraq would be the best means of accomplishing this.

"Taking what we know from the White House’s own admissions; there is a belief that 'creative destruction and chaos' in the Middle East are beneficial assets to reshaping the Middle East, creating the 'New Middle East,' and furthering the Anglo-American roadmap in the Middle East and Central Asia:

"In Europe, the Word 'Balkans' conjures up images of ethnic conflicts and great-power regional rivalries.

"Eurasia, too, has its 'Balkans,' but the Eurasian Balkans are much larger, more populated, even more religiously and ethnically heterogenous.

"They are located within that large geographic oblong that demarcates the central zone of global instability (…) that embraces portions of southeastern Europe, Central Asia and parts of South Asia [Pakistan, Kashmir, Western India], the Persian Gulf area, and the Middle East."

Plans for Redrawing the Middle East: The Project for a ?New Middle East? | Global Research

28 July 2014 will mark the one hundred year anniversary of the beginning of the War to End All Wars. Maybe Obama will provide its conclusion?

 

[georgephillip]

America isn't the greatest purveryor of violence on the planet. Whoever produced and flooded the world with the AK-47 would be the greatest purveyor of violence. A close 2nd place would be the Shite and Sunni Muslims who have conducted and continue to conduct animal type warfare between each other. Killing of innocents is promoted and conducted as routine. Big difference between killing innocents in the crossfire or if a bomb miss's the target and accidently kills innoncents, and grown men sitting around planning and then executing on the plan to purposefuly blowing up of innocent men, women and children for revenge or to bring terror to a community. No, sorry, America is way behind in the field of purveying violence in the world.

Name another country that has maimed, murdered, displaced, and incarcerated millions of innocent people thousands of miles from its homeland since 1945; name another country currently practicing signature drone strikes.

You are changing the subject. We decided to be the world cops after WWII. If you don't like the job we have done, change it, but don't go on a rant about how we are some evil empire with malicious intent to inflict harm and committ worldwide crimes. How many wars have we prevented or brought to termination? How many times have we done things that prevented a larger war that would have drug us into it. The situation today is a good example. Perhaps not taking action against Syria is the right thing. But what it Syria attacks Israel or Turkey with chemical weapons? What if they attack one of them with conventional weapons and Israel or Turkey decide to retaliate? What if Iran decides to provide regular army troops and not just it's Iranian Gaurd? What if Iran decides to close the straights that allow the free flow and transportation of oil? Should we withdrawn our fleet from the Persian Gulf? It's easy to hate on cops. Until you need one.

Not only is the US the only nation in history to maim, murder, and displace millions of civilians on the opposite side of the planet from its homeland, its homeland leads the planet in gun violence:

"America is the greatest purveyor of violence around. You only need look at the latest shootout massacre du jour on U.S. soil. These perennial bloodbaths occur so frequently that Americans have accepted them as a part of daily life, the price of doing business, as they say.

"With 90 guns for every 100 people and 270 million of the world's 875 million known firearms, according to the Small Arms Survey in Switzerland, the U.S. by far is the most heavily armed nation in the world.

"Yemen, in second place, has 61 guns per 100 people, followed by Finland with 56, Switzerland with 46, and Iraq with 39.

"And not surprisingly, America has the world's highest gun-related death rate, with nearly 100,000 people shot or killed with a gun each year.

"Over a million Americans have been killed with guns since King and Robert F. Kennedy were assassinated, according to the Childrens' Defense Fund. Moreover, the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence says that America's homicide rate is 6.9 times higher than rates in other 22 advanced nations combined.

"And among 23 high-income countries, 80 percent of firearms deaths occur in the U.S."

David A. Love: America Is the Greatest Purveyor of Violence in the World Today

 

[Ropey]

Multiple polls show US citizens opposed to more war for the New Middle East.
If Obama chooses the forces of "creative chaos" over the will of a majority of US voters, he should pay the ultimate political price for his arrogance. (And spend the rest of his life in a 6' by 10' cell)

He's the President. He's been given the authority to make these choices. The people gave him the authority.

And that's you.. the people.

He won't spend any time in jail for his choices.

So, you're tripping...again.

 

[georgephillip]

Multiple polls show US citizens opposed to more war for the New Middle East.
If Obama chooses the forces of "creative chaos" over the will of a majority of US voters, he should pay the ultimate political price for his arrogance. (And spend the rest of his life in a 6' by 10' cell)

He's the President. He's been given the authority to make these choices. The people gave him the authority.

And that's you.. the people.

He won't spend any time in jail for his choices.

So, you're tripping...again.

Obama's merely the most recent corporate-anointed cog in the NWO

"The term 'New Middle East' was introduced to the world in June 2006 in Tel Aviv by U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice (who was credited by the Western media for coining the term) in replacement of the older and more imposing term, the 'Greater Middle East.'

"This shift in foreign policy phraseology coincided with the inauguration of the Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan (BTC) Oil Terminal in the Eastern Mediterranean.

"The term and conceptualization of the 'New Middle East,' was subsequently heralded by the U.S. Secretary of State and the Israeli Prime Minister at the height of the Anglo-American sponsored Israeli siege of Lebanon.

"Prime Minister Olmert and Secretary Rice had informed the international media that a project for a 'New Middle East' was being launched from Lebanon.

"This announcement was a confirmation of an Anglo-American-Israeli 'military roadmap' in the Middle East.

"This project, which has been in the planning stages for several years, consists in creating an arc of instability, chaos, and violence extending from Lebanon, Palestine, and Syria to Iraq, the Persian Gulf, Iran, and the borders of NATO-garrisoned Afghanistan."

Plans for Redrawing the Middle East: The Project for a ?New Middle East? | Global Research

Israel's unsuccessful invasion of Lebanon in 2006 temporarily derailed implementation of the New Middle East; we'll see who's trippin' when it finishes.

 

[NoTeaPartyPleez]

Multiple polls show US citizens opposed to more war for the New Middle East.
If Obama chooses the forces of "creative chaos" over the will of a majority of US voters, he should pay the ultimate political price for his arrogance. (And spend the rest of his life in a 6' by 10' cell)

Oh for chrissake, a military strike is not grounds for impeachment. Go back to high school or at least get your GED.

 

[Ropey]

Multiple polls show US citizens opposed to more war for the New Middle East.
If Obama chooses the forces of "creative chaos" over the will of a majority of US voters, he should pay the ultimate political price for his arrogance. (And spend the rest of his life in a 6' by 10' cell)

He's the President. He's been given the authority to make these choices. The people gave him the authority.

And that's you.. the people.

He won't spend any time in jail for his choices.

So, you're tripping...again.

Obama's merely the most recent corporate-anointed cog in the NWO

"The term 'New Middle East' was introduced to the world in June 2006 in Tel Aviv by U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice (who was credited by the Western media for coining the term) in replacement of the older and more imposing term, the 'Greater Middle East.'

"This shift in foreign policy phraseology coincided with the inauguration of the Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan (BTC) Oil Terminal in the Eastern Mediterranean.

"The term and conceptualization of the 'New Middle East,' was subsequently heralded by the U.S. Secretary of State and the Israeli Prime Minister at the height of the Anglo-American sponsored Israeli siege of Lebanon.

"Prime Minister Olmert and Secretary Rice had informed the international media that a project for a 'New Middle East' was being launched from Lebanon.

"This announcement was a confirmation of an Anglo-American-Israeli 'military roadmap' in the Middle East.

"This project, which has been in the planning stages for several years, consists in creating an arc of instability, chaos, and violence extending from Lebanon, Palestine, and Syria to Iraq, the Persian Gulf, Iran, and the borders of NATO-garrisoned Afghanistan."

Plans for Redrawing the Middle East: The Project for a ?New Middle East? | Global Research

Israel's unsuccessful invasion of Lebanon in 2006 temporarily derailed implementation of the New Middle East; we'll see who's trippin' when it finishes.

See above.

It didn't take you long to put Jews/Israel into your equation. Hundreds of thousands of Muslims will die and are dying and here you are attempting to conflate Jews into the issue.

You just can't help your self-hackery.

 

[IlarMeilyr]

Multiple polls show US citizens opposed to more war for the New Middle East.
If Obama chooses the forces of "creative chaos" over the will of a majority of US voters, he should pay the ultimate political price for his arrogance. (And spend the rest of his life in a 6' by 10' cell)

If Congress says "no," then it is not out of bounds to consider impeachment.

But if Congress says "proceed," or if they simply remain silent, then the validity of an impeachment effort is not quite so clear.

Either way, it would be folly to bother to even contemplate YOUR "advice."

 

[Camp]

Does anyone doubt that if the vote goes no Obama will simply hold off and wait for the next oppurtunity, say I told you so, and pounce?

 

[Unkotare]

The Day an American President is thrown into jail?

Will be the day Democracy ends in America.

Bank on that.

You're right, Democracy will end, and the Republic will be restored; as intended by the Constitution.

How are your convention plans coming along, head case?

 

[Unkotare]

Not only is the US the only nation in history to maim, murder, and displace millions of civilians on the opposite side of the planet from its homeland, its homeland leads the planet in gun violence

And you still continue to pollute our great nation with your presence, you big fat fucking hypocrite? Grow a pair and have the courage of your convictions for once in your cowardly life. GTFO.

 

[QuickHitCurepon]

Nobody would dare impeach or imprison the man who gives them free stuff. Never, ever.

It's a pipe-dream, and Obama is a master of minimizing his opponents.

 

[QuickHitCurepon]

Multiple polls show US citizens opposed to more war for the New Middle East.
If Obama chooses the forces of "creative chaos" over the will of a majority of US voters, he should pay the ultimate political price for his arrogance. (And spend the rest of his life in a 6' by 10' cell)

Fortunately you and others on the right can’t be compelled to pay a price for your ignorance.

‘Arrogance’ is not an impeachable offense.

And the president would be acting legally and constitutionally should he order a strike over Congress’ objection.

We may not like these facts but they’re the facts nonetheless.

Our lack of will to reign in any limitation to the War Powers Act appears likely to bite us in the ass eventually.