In 1948, Arabs threatened Palestinians with violence if they didn't leave Israel before the attack

[montelatici]

I don't have disprove fake quotes from a Zionist propaganda site, you clown. I provided the official British report to the UN from January 1948 from the UN archives. It disproves all your fake Hasbara quotes.

 

[montelatici]

You lose as usual, son.

Yet to loose even once.

I don't know what you mean by "loose". But I do know that official UN documents trump the bullshit propaganda you cut and paste, son. You lose again.

 

[Roudy]

You don't know what I mean because you are a moron. I asked you to disprove those quotes and you posted yet another irrelevant document, dipshit. There are exact time and places for these quotes. They exist in archives of Arab, American, and European organization and magazines. Respected authors and historians have used them. Posting irrelevant documents just ain't going to cut it. You failed again, Jew hater.

 

[montelatici]

The quotes from a Hasbara site are false. The British reports to the UN are not. That's just a fact, son.

 

[Roudy]

Sorry, but most if not all those quotes are also used in this guy's book, and he's definitely not a "hasbara". Go ahead, retard, why don't you call him and tell him how wrong he is. Ha ha ha.

Eric Sundquist
Andrew W. Mellon Professor of the Humanities
Department Chair

Department of English
Johns Hopkins University
26 Gilman Hall
3400 N. Charles Street
Baltimore, MD 21218

Phone: (410) 516-1103
Email: [email protected]

Eric J. Sundquist teaches courses in American literature and culture, with special interests in African American literature, Jewish American literature, and the literature of the Holocaust. Before returning to Johns Hopkins, where he received his Ph.D. in 1978, he taught at Berkeley, Vanderbilt, UCLA, and Northwestern, where he was also Dean of the College of Arts and Sciences.

Professor Sundquist’s books include King’s Dream (2009); Strangers in the Land: Blacks, Jews, Post-Holocaust America (2005), which received the Weinberg Judaic Studies Institute Book Award; To Wake the Nations: Race in the Making of American Literature (1992), which received the Christian Gauss Award from Phi Beta Kappa and the James Russell Lowell Award from the Modern Language Association; The Hammers of Creation: Folk Culture in Modern African American Literature (1993); Faulkner: The House Divided (1985); and Home as Found: Authority and Genealogy in Nineteenth-Century American Literature (1979), which received the Gustave Arlt Award from the Council of Graduate Schools in the United States. He has edited essay collections devoted to Mark Twain, Ralph Ellison, Harriet Beecher Stowe, and W. E. B. Du Bois, and contributed to the Cambridge History of American Literature (reprinted as Empire and Slavery in American Literature, 1820-1865). He is a member of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences, and in 2007 was named a recipient of a Distinguished Achievement Award from the Andrew W. Mellon Foundation.



Strangers in the Land: Blacks, Jews, Post-Holocaust America
By Eric J Sundquist


Pages displayed by permission of Harvard University Press. Copyright.


Strangers in the Land Blacks Jews Post-Holocaust America - Eric J Sundquist - Google Books

 

[Roudy]

You lose as usual, son.

Yet to loose even once.

I don't know what you mean by "loose". But I do know that official UN documents trump the bullshit propaganda you cut and paste, son. You lose again.

The UN document doesn't trump jack because it's irrelevant and doesn't address the threats by the Arab leaders telling the Palestinians to clear out.

 

[Roudy]

An interesting and very accurate take:

The Expulsion Libel: 1948 Arab "Exodus" Reconsidered

The war was begun not by Israel, but by the Palestinian Arab leaders and by the governments of the Arab states, in an effort not only to strangle the infant Jewish state in its crib, but also to exterminate its Jewish inhabitants. The Palestinian and other Arab leaders were quite frank about having begun the war. Jamal Husseini, the Acting Chairman of the Arab Higher Committee for Palestine, told the United Nations Security Council on April 16, 1948:

The representative of the Jewish Agency told us yesterday that they were not the attackers, that the Arabs had begun the fighting. We did not deny this. We told the whole world that we were going to fight.



Ismayil Safwat, one of the commanders of the Palestinian Arab guerilla-terrorists, admitted in March, 1948 that:

"The Jews haven't attacked any Arab village, unless attacked first."


Nor did the Palestinian and other Arab leaders make any attempt to conceal their genocidal objectives. The supreme Palestinian Arab leader, Hajj Amin el-Husseini, the mufti of Jerusalem , exhorted his followers over Radio Cairo,

"I declare a holy war, my Moslem brothers! Murder the Jews! Murder them all!"


Other Palestinian leaders made similar pronouncements. As for the objectives of the Arab states' invasion of Palestine-Israel, they were expressed clearly enough by the Secretary General of the League of Arab States. According to a report in The New York Time son May 16, 1948,

"On the day that Israel declared its independence, Azzam Pasha, Secretary General of the Arab League, at Cairo press conference declared "jihad", a holy war. He said that the Arab states rejected partition and would set up a "United State of Palestine." Pasha added: ‘This will be a war of extermination and a momentous massacre which will be spoken of like the Mongolian massacres and the Crusades.' "


The Palestinian Arab guerilla/terrorists began the war with a massacre of Jewish civilian passengers in a bus passing through the Arab town of Lydda (now Lod), on November 30, 1947. They subsequently attacked nearly every Jewish village and urban neighborhood in Palestine, and closed all of the major roads in Palestine to Jews through a regular system of ambushes and sniper attacks. They also killed upwards of two thousand Jews, at least half of them civilians, and wounded thousands of others in the course of the war. In addition to attacking their Jewish neighbors on their own, the Palestinian Arab guerilla/terrorists cooperated closely with the invading armies of the six intervening Arab states, who attacked the Jews with artillery, tanks, aircraft and British-trained, and sometimes British-commanded, soldiers.

The Palestinian Arab guerilla-terrorists' siege of the roads created severe shortages of food and fuel in some Jewish communities, most notably in the Jerusalem area, where the Jewish inhabitants had to be put on starvation rations by their own government and came close to starving to death. The Arab guerilla-terrorists even blew up the water aqueduct to the Jewish sections of Jerusalem, forcing the inhabitants to drink only carefully rationed rain water.

For defending themselves against both the armed Palestinian Arab "civilians" and the invasion forces of the Arab states, the Israelis had only a hastily organized army that was really an ad hoc civilian militia, poorly armed, and consisting mainly of men and women who had no previous military training or experience, and who were drafted from their normal civilian occupations only after the Arab attacks had already begun. Only a small core of men and women, less than 10,000, were fully trained and more or less professional soldiers. The Israeli soldiers were not trained or experienced in occupying Arab communities and separating out armed guerillas from peaceful civilians. In any case, the Israelis had no manpower to spare for such delicate and sophisticated counterinsurgency operations, since they had to repel the armies of the invading Arab states even as they were forced to deal with the "local" guerilla-terrorists as well. These unfortunate military realities occasionally made expulsion of the inhabitants from "hostile" villages that served as bases of operation for guerilla attacks on Israeli soldiers and civilians the only practical means of halting these attacks.

On the other hand, Arab villages from which guerilla-terrorist attacks did not originate, and that did not offer armed resistance to the Israeli forces, were left alone by the Israeli soldiers; or if they were occupied by the Israelis, the inhabitants were well treated, and were not asked to leave Israeli-held territory. In a few cases, Arabs from villages in which only a few families remained were asked to resettle elsewhere in Israel, in more populous Arab villages a few miles away. Where most of the inhabitants of a village had chosen to remain, the village was left in place and undisturbed. That is why over a hundred of the Arab communities dating to before Israel's independence still exist in Israel, and have in fact expanded their populations by as much as sevenfold in sixty years -- one of the most rapid population growth rates in the world.

But Israeli counterinsurgency operations and security measures accounted for only a small minority of the Palestinian Arabs who became refugees during the War of Independence, or who claimed refugee status after the war. A much larger number of Arabs fled their homes in response to the urging, or even the orders and threats, of Arab politicians and/or military commanders. Substantial contemporary documentary evidence, much of it published at the time, clearly indicates that both the Palestinian Arab leadership and the governments of the Arab states that attacked Israel called on their own people to evacuate large areas of the country. For example, Kenneth O.Bilby, the correspondent in Palestine for the New York Herald Tribune during the War of Independence wrote in a book published shortly afterwards that said:

The Arab exodus, initially at least, was encouraged by many Arab leaders, such as Haj Amin el Husseini, the exiled pro-Nazi Mufti of Jerusalem, and by the Arab Higher Committee for Palestine.They viewed the first wave of Arab setbacks as merely transitory. Let the Palestine Arabs flee into neighboring countries. It would serve to arouse the other Arab peoples to greater effort, and when the Arab invasion struck, the Palestinians could return to their homes and be compensated with the property of Jews driven into the sea.

After the war, the Palestine Arab leaders did try to help people -- including their own -- to forget that it was they who had called for the exodus in the early spring of 1948. They now blamed the leaders of the invading Arab states themselves. These had added their voices to the exodus call, though not until some weeks after the Palestine Arab Higher Committee had taken a stand.
- Kenneth O. Bilby, New Star in the Middle East, (Doubleday, 1950).


And the British news magazine The Economist, no friend of Israel or the Zionist movement, reported on October 2, 1948, while the war was still in progress, that

Of the 62,000 Arabs who formerly lived in [the Palestinian, now Israeli, city of] Haifa not more than 5,000 or 6,000 remained. Various factors influenced their decision to seek safety in flight. There is but little doubt that the most potent of the factors were the announcements made over the air by the Higher Arab Executive, urging the Arabs to quit... It was clearly intimated that those Arabs who remained in Haifa and accepted Jewish protection would be regarded as renegades.


On May 3, 1948, the American news magazine Time reported that

The mass evacuation, prompted partly by fear, partly by order of Arab leaders, left the Arab quarter of Haifa a ghost city.... By withdrawing Arab workers their leaders hoped to paralyze Haifa .


Sir Alan Cunningham, the last high commissioner for the British administration of Palestine, which was in the process of withdrawing from the country while the fighting raged, wrote to the Colonial Office in London on February 22, 1948, and again on April 28, 1948, that

British authorities in Haifa have formed the impression that total evacuation is being urged on the Haifa Arabs from higher Arab quarters and that the townsfolk themselves are against it.


The American consulate in Haifa had telegraphed Washington on April 25 that "local Mufti-dominated Arab leaders urge all Arabs (to) leave (the) city [Haifa] and large numbers are going." Three days later the consulate followed up this communication with another that said, "reportedly Arab Higher Committee ordering all Arabs (to) leave."

On April 23, Jamal Husseini, the Acting Chairman for the Arab Higher Committee for Palestine , admitted as much in a speech to the United Nations Security Council:

The Arabs did not want to submit to a truce. They rather preferred to abandon their homes, their belongings and everything they possessed in the world and leave the town. This is in fact what they did.


And on April 27, 1950, only two years after the Arab evacuation of Haifa, the Arab National Committee of Haifa asserted in a memorandum submitted to the governments of the Arab states that

The removal of the Arab inhabitants... was voluntary and was carried out at our request... The Arab delegation proudly asked for the evacuation of the Arabs and their removal to the neighboring Arab countries.... We are very glad to state that the Arabs guarded their honour and traditions with pride and greatness.... When the [Arab]delegation entered the conference room [for negotiations with the Jewish authorities in Haifa] it proudly refused to sign the truce and asked that the evacuation of the Arab population and their transfer to neighboring Arab countries be facilitated.


In June 1949, only six months after the conclusion of hostilities, Sir John Troutbeck, the head of the British Middle East office in Cairo and, according to historian Efraim Karsh, "no friend to Israel or the Jews," made a fact-finding visit to Gaza and interviewed some of the Arab refugees there. Troutbeck reported that he had learned from these interviews that the refugees

...express no bitterness against the Jews (or for that matter against the Americans or ourselves) [but] they speak with the utmost bitterness of the Egyptians and other Arab states. "We know who our enemies are," they will say, and they are referring to their Arab brothers who, they declare, persuaded them unnecessarily to leave their home... I even heard it said that many of the refugees would give a welcome to the Israelis if they were to come in and take the district over.


And the Palestinian Arab newspaper Falastin, only a month after the war ended (Feb. 19, 1949), reported that

The Arab states which had encouraged the Palestinian Arabs to leave their homes temporarily in order to be out of the way of the Arab invasion armies, have failed to keep their promise to help these refugees.


Whatever their motives for giving such reckless, irresponsible instructions to the Palestinian Arabs, the leaders of the jihad against Israel, including both the chiefs of the Arab States and the Palestinian Arab leaders, bear a heavy load of guilt for inflicting suffering on their own people, and then dishonestly blaming Israel for the consequences of their own actions. The time is long overdue for the Arab League governments to accept responsibility for the people whom they have displaced and in many cases left stateless by their attempt, in cooperation with the Palestinian Arab leadership, to strangle Israel and exterminate her people in the year of her birth. And it is high time that today's Arab leaders, and the Palestinian Arab terrorist organizations whom they finance and sponsor, cease to exploit, as a propaganda weapon in their ongoing war against Israel, the suffering that an earlier generation of Arab leaders inflicted on their own people.

 

[Challenger]

He is a Zionist activist. He believes that regardless who lived in Palestine the Europeans had the right to evict the people living there. That's just absurd.

You haven't proven the Europeans evicted anybody. What's been proven without a doubt is that the Arab armies warned the Palestinians to get out of the way.

“The Arab armies entered Palestine to protect the Palestinians from the Zionist tyranny but, instead, they abandoned them, forced them to emigrate and to leave their homeland, and threw them into prisons similar to the ghettos in which the Jews used to live.”

— Palestinian Authority (then) Prime Minister Mahmoud Abbas (Abu Mazen) (Falastin a-Thaura, (March 1976)

Strangers in the Land: Blacks, Jews, Post-Holocaust America
By Eric J Sundquist


Pages displayed by permission of Harvard University Press. Copyright.



Eric Sundquist


Andrew W. Mellon Professor of the Humanities

Department Chair


Department of English

Johns Hopkins University

26 Gilman Hall

3400 N. Charles Street
Baltimore, MD 21218
Phone: (410) 516-1103
Email: [email protected]


Eric J. Sundquist teaches courses in American literature and culture, with special interests in African American literature, Jewish American literature, and the literature of the Holocaust. Before returning to Johns Hopkins, where he received his Ph.D. in 1978, he taught at Berkeley, Vanderbilt, UCLA, and Northwestern, where he was also Dean of the College of Arts and Sciences.

*sigh* Strangers in the Land: Blacks, Jews, Post-Holocaust America By Eric J Sundquist, a review;

"Sundquist adopts a boilerplate Zionist narrative of the history of Palestine and Israel that would not pass muster in any college classroom worth its name, which romanticizes Israelis and denigrates Palestinians."

it goes on,

"This virtually propagandistic obfuscation is typical of Sundquist's treatment of Israel and Palestine throughout his historical account, from 1948 to 1967 to 1973, with Israel's survival always assumed to be at stake from hateful Arab nations. The most significant and brutal Jewish massacre of Arabs is buried in a sea of equivocation (including a veiled reference to the myth of "Arab broadcasts") in a selective and distorted historical context-without regard, for example, to what is now known about Zionist plans for transfer (carried out before and after Deir Yassin), collusion between Zionist leaders and the leader of Trans-Jordan (Emir Abdullah) to prevent the formation of a Palestinian state, or the tepidness of Arab intervention, arguably not a serious threat to the nascent but already well-armed Jewish state. Again, in spite of the Sundquist's references to new Israeli historians like Avi Shlaim and to Rashid Khalidi, he seems unwilling to seriously address the implications of what is now conventional scholarly wisdom, which well explains the ongoing destruction of Palestinian national aspirations."

Amazon.com Strangers in the Land Blacks Jews Post-Holocaust America 9780674030695 Eric J. Sundquist Books

"A review" by an asshole like yourself doesn't discredit a well respected and established professor, author, and historian.

Wrong again Rude-ee strikes again! Not my review, just one of many. Eric J Sundquist is not a historian, he's a professor of English and a rabid Zionist, it appears.

Literature and culture.
You are no award winning historian but you feel you are qualified to deny others a voice by belittling them for not 'enough' of the right education.
and we have seen how your views are tainted by devotion to too much anti-semitism and rabid anti zionists.

All other sources are invalid except those you personally preapprove? Right, you see yourself as smarter than scholars and teachers that have actually researched their works, not just spent 30 seconds or less typing on some post?

Reeeally?

He holds the chair in English although he teaches courses in American literature and culture; doesn't make him an authority on the Palestine conflict. I don't have to approve or disapprove a source, for it to be valid, but I do reserve the right to highlight a biased or flawed source when I see one. thanks for the personal attack; proves I'm right.

 

[Roudy]

You haven't proven the Europeans evicted anybody. What's been proven without a doubt is that the Arab armies warned the Palestinians to get out of the way.

“The Arab armies entered Palestine to protect the Palestinians from the Zionist tyranny but, instead, they abandoned them, forced them to emigrate and to leave their homeland, and threw them into prisons similar to the ghettos in which the Jews used to live.”

— Palestinian Authority (then) Prime Minister Mahmoud Abbas (Abu Mazen) (Falastin a-Thaura, (March 1976)

Strangers in the Land: Blacks, Jews, Post-Holocaust America
By Eric J Sundquist


Pages displayed by permission of Harvard University Press. Copyright.



Eric Sundquist


Andrew W. Mellon Professor of the Humanities

Department Chair


Department of English

Johns Hopkins University

26 Gilman Hall

3400 N. Charles Street
Baltimore, MD 21218
Phone: (410) 516-1103
Email: [email protected]


Eric J. Sundquist teaches courses in American literature and culture, with special interests in African American literature, Jewish American literature, and the literature of the Holocaust. Before returning to Johns Hopkins, where he received his Ph.D. in 1978, he taught at Berkeley, Vanderbilt, UCLA, and Northwestern, where he was also Dean of the College of Arts and Sciences.

*sigh* Strangers in the Land: Blacks, Jews, Post-Holocaust America By Eric J Sundquist, a review;

"Sundquist adopts a boilerplate Zionist narrative of the history of Palestine and Israel that would not pass muster in any college classroom worth its name, which romanticizes Israelis and denigrates Palestinians."

it goes on,

"This virtually propagandistic obfuscation is typical of Sundquist's treatment of Israel and Palestine throughout his historical account, from 1948 to 1967 to 1973, with Israel's survival always assumed to be at stake from hateful Arab nations. The most significant and brutal Jewish massacre of Arabs is buried in a sea of equivocation (including a veiled reference to the myth of "Arab broadcasts") in a selective and distorted historical context-without regard, for example, to what is now known about Zionist plans for transfer (carried out before and after Deir Yassin), collusion between Zionist leaders and the leader of Trans-Jordan (Emir Abdullah) to prevent the formation of a Palestinian state, or the tepidness of Arab intervention, arguably not a serious threat to the nascent but already well-armed Jewish state. Again, in spite of the Sundquist's references to new Israeli historians like Avi Shlaim and to Rashid Khalidi, he seems unwilling to seriously address the implications of what is now conventional scholarly wisdom, which well explains the ongoing destruction of Palestinian national aspirations."

Amazon.com Strangers in the Land Blacks Jews Post-Holocaust America 9780674030695 Eric J. Sundquist Books

"A review" by an asshole like yourself doesn't discredit a well respected and established professor, author, and historian.

Wrong again Rude-ee strikes again! Not my review, just one of many. Eric J Sundquist is not a historian, he's a professor of English and a rabid Zionist, it appears.

Literature and culture.
You are no award winning historian but you feel you are qualified to deny others a voice by belittling them for not 'enough' of the right education.
and we have seen how your views are tainted by devotion to too much anti-semitism and rabid anti zionists.

All other sources are invalid except those you personally preapprove? Right, you see yourself as smarter than scholars and teachers that have actually researched their works, not just spent 30 seconds or less typing on some post?

Reeeally?

He holds the chair in English although he teaches courses in American literature and culture; doesn't make him an authority on the Palestine conflict. I don't have to approve or disapprove a source, for it to be valid, but I do reserve the right to highlight a biased or flawed source when I see one. thanks for the personal attack; proves I'm right.

I'd say a Harvard approved researcher and writer has more credibility than an IslamoNazi scumbag named challenger. Plus he isn't the only one using these legitimate quotes. Arab leaders told the Palistinians to clear out. Why is it such a big surprise?

 

[Challenger]

*sigh* Strangers in the Land: Blacks, Jews, Post-Holocaust America By Eric J Sundquist, a review;

"Sundquist adopts a boilerplate Zionist narrative of the history of Palestine and Israel that would not pass muster in any college classroom worth its name, which romanticizes Israelis and denigrates Palestinians."

it goes on,

"This virtually propagandistic obfuscation is typical of Sundquist's treatment of Israel and Palestine throughout his historical account, from 1948 to 1967 to 1973, with Israel's survival always assumed to be at stake from hateful Arab nations. The most significant and brutal Jewish massacre of Arabs is buried in a sea of equivocation (including a veiled reference to the myth of "Arab broadcasts") in a selective and distorted historical context-without regard, for example, to what is now known about Zionist plans for transfer (carried out before and after Deir Yassin), collusion between Zionist leaders and the leader of Trans-Jordan (Emir Abdullah) to prevent the formation of a Palestinian state, or the tepidness of Arab intervention, arguably not a serious threat to the nascent but already well-armed Jewish state. Again, in spite of the Sundquist's references to new Israeli historians like Avi Shlaim and to Rashid Khalidi, he seems unwilling to seriously address the implications of what is now conventional scholarly wisdom, which well explains the ongoing destruction of Palestinian national aspirations."

Amazon.com Strangers in the Land Blacks Jews Post-Holocaust America 9780674030695 Eric J. Sundquist Books

"A review" by an asshole like yourself doesn't discredit a well respected and established professor, author, and historian.

Wrong again Rude-ee strikes again! Not my review, just one of many. Eric J Sundquist is not a historian, he's a professor of English and a rabid Zionist, it appears.

Literature and culture.
You are no award winning historian but you feel you are qualified to deny others a voice by belittling them for not 'enough' of the right education.
and we have seen how your views are tainted by devotion to too much anti-semitism and rabid anti zionists.

All other sources are invalid except those you personally preapprove? Right, you see yourself as smarter than scholars and teachers that have actually researched their works, not just spent 30 seconds or less typing on some post?

Reeeally?

He holds the chair in English although he teaches courses in American literature and culture; doesn't make him an authority on the Palestine conflict. I don't have to approve or disapprove a source, for it to be valid, but I do reserve the right to highlight a biased or flawed source when I see one. thanks for the personal attack; proves I'm right.

I'd say a Harvard approved researcher and writer has more credibility than an IslamoNazi scumbag named challenger. Plus he isn't the only one using these legitimate quotes. Arab leaders told the Palistinians to clear out. Why is it such a big surprise?

Still waiting for you to show me actual copies of these alleged "orders to clear out".

 

[rylah]

"A review" by an asshole like yourself doesn't discredit a well respected and established professor, author, and historian.

Wrong again Rude-ee strikes again! Not my review, just one of many. Eric J Sundquist is not a historian, he's a professor of English and a rabid Zionist, it appears.

Literature and culture.
You are no award winning historian but you feel you are qualified to deny others a voice by belittling them for not 'enough' of the right education.
and we have seen how your views are tainted by devotion to too much anti-semitism and rabid anti zionists.

All other sources are invalid except those you personally preapprove? Right, you see yourself as smarter than scholars and teachers that have actually researched their works, not just spent 30 seconds or less typing on some post?

Reeeally?

He holds the chair in English although he teaches courses in American literature and culture; doesn't make him an authority on the Palestine conflict. I don't have to approve or disapprove a source, for it to be valid, but I do reserve the right to highlight a biased or flawed source when I see one. thanks for the personal attack; proves I'm right.

I'd say a Harvard approved researcher and writer has more credibility than an IslamoNazi scumbag named challenger. Plus he isn't the only one using these legitimate quotes. Arab leaders told the Palistinians to clear out. Why is it such a big surprise?

Still waiting for you to show me actual copies of these alleged "orders to clear out".

Really?

So what should they write there-copy the famous verses from koran?
Or just leave it to immams in mosque who order genocides and massacres on daily basis?
even if it ever exited no reporter would be let near those-for we know of th condtin of the
freedom of speech there. first goes the reporter then his family.

But anyhow- maybe You first base Your claim that "flotilla members were shot in the back of the head"?
Still waiting since 2-3 weeks ago, shouldn't that be easier to get a scan of those documents from recent time? Rather than some order done 100 years ago
by some muslim in the desert...

So You go first?

 

[Billo_Really]

According to the local Palestine government in 1947...

"The attitude of the Administration to the maintenance of public security in present circumstances was stated to the Committee in the following terms:

"The right of any community to use force as a means of gaining its political ends is not admitted in the British Commonwealth. Since the beginning of 1945 the Jews have implicitly claimed this right and have (sic) supported by an organized campaign of lawlessness, murder and sabotage their contention that, whatever other interests might be concerned, nothing should be allowed to stand in the way of a Jewish State and free Jewish immigration into Palestine. It is true that large numbers of Jews do not today attempt to defend the crimes that have been committed in the name of these political aspirations. They recognize the damage caused to their good name by these methods in the court of world opinion. Nevertheless, the Jewish community of Palestine still publicly refuses its help to the Administration in suppressing terrorism, on the ground that the Administration's policy is opposed to Jewish interests. The converse of this attitude is clear, and its result, however much the Jewish leaders themselves may not wish it, has been to give active encouragement to the dissidents and freer scope to their activities ..."

...it was the Zionists who were committing violence and terrorism upon the indigenous residents of the area.

 

[Billo_Really]

According to official UN records...

Zionist policies of territorial expansion

As the British Government progressively disengaged from Palestine, and the United Nations was unable to replace it as an effective governing authority, the Zionist movement moved to establish control over the territory of the nascent Jewish State. At the same time the bordering Arab States made clear that they would intervene.

...the reason Arab states came into the area, was to stop Zionist territorial expansion beyond that which was allocated them in the Partition plan. With that in mind, it makes no sense that they would demand Palestinian-Arabs leave homes they've been living in for generations.

Why would an Arab army demand a person leave a home, that they were coming to protect from foreign invaders?

The claim in the OP is just ludicrous.

 

[Phoenall]

Of course I can refute that bullshit. It comes from a Hasbara propaganda sites, that's why you don't post the links. You are so transparent. You know how many quotes from Israeli leaders are available to post from similar sites on the other side? You see Ruddy, you are a propagandist, I am not.

PROOF as we prove your links are to ISLAMONAZI PROPAGANDA and pallywood sites

 

[Phoenall]

According to the local Palestine government in 1947...

"The attitude of the Administration to the maintenance of public security in present circumstances was stated to the Committee in the following terms:

"The right of any community to use force as a means of gaining its political ends is not admitted in the British Commonwealth. Since the beginning of 1945 the Jews have implicitly claimed this right and have (sic) supported by an organized campaign of lawlessness, murder and sabotage their contention that, whatever other interests might be concerned, nothing should be allowed to stand in the way of a Jewish State and free Jewish immigration into Palestine. It is true that large numbers of Jews do not today attempt to defend the crimes that have been committed in the name of these political aspirations. They recognize the damage caused to their good name by these methods in the court of world opinion. Nevertheless, the Jewish community of Palestine still publicly refuses its help to the Administration in suppressing terrorism, on the ground that the Administration's policy is opposed to Jewish interests. The converse of this attitude is clear, and its result, however much the Jewish leaders themselves may not wish it, has been to give active encouragement to the dissidents and freer scope to their activities ..."

...it was the Zionists who were committing violence and terrorism upon the indigenous residents of the area.

Without any evidence from a reliable source you are just spouting JEW HATRED again. Something you can not deny doing

 

[Phoenall]

According to official UN records...

Zionist policies of territorial expansion

As the British Government progressively disengaged from Palestine, and the United Nations was unable to replace it as an effective governing authority, the Zionist movement moved to establish control over the territory of the nascent Jewish State. At the same time the bordering Arab States made clear that they would intervene.

...the reason Arab states came into the area, was to stop Zionist territorial expansion beyond that which was allocated them in the Partition plan. With that in mind, it makes no sense that they would demand Palestinian-Arabs leave homes they've been living in for generations.

Why would an Arab army demand a person leave a home, that they were coming to protect from foreign invaders?

The claim in the OP is just ludicrous.

LINK proving this as the arab league had been attacking the Jews since the partition plan was announced, and stated that they would destroy the Jews rather than allow them one inch of Palestine. From north to south , from the river to the sea

 

[Phoenall]

According to the local Palestine government in 1947...

"The attitude of the Administration to the maintenance of public security in present circumstances was stated to the Committee in the following terms:

"The right of any community to use force as a means of gaining its political ends is not admitted in the British Commonwealth. Since the beginning of 1945 the Jews have implicitly claimed this right and have (sic) supported by an organized campaign of lawlessness, murder and sabotage their contention that, whatever other interests might be concerned, nothing should be allowed to stand in the way of a Jewish State and free Jewish immigration into Palestine. It is true that large numbers of Jews do not today attempt to defend the crimes that have been committed in the name of these political aspirations. They recognize the damage caused to their good name by these methods in the court of world opinion. Nevertheless, the Jewish community of Palestine still publicly refuses its help to the Administration in suppressing terrorism, on the ground that the Administration's policy is opposed to Jewish interests. The converse of this attitude is clear, and its result, however much the Jewish leaders themselves may not wish it, has been to give active encouragement to the dissidents and freer scope to their activities ..."

...it was the Zionists who were committing violence and terrorism upon the indigenous residents of the area.

Would that be the Palestine government in Cairo that dealt with the gaza strip only

 

[Challenger]

Wrong again Rude-ee strikes again! Not my review, just one of many. Eric J Sundquist is not a historian, he's a professor of English and a rabid Zionist, it appears.

Literature and culture.
You are no award winning historian but you feel you are qualified to deny others a voice by belittling them for not 'enough' of the right education.
and we have seen how your views are tainted by devotion to too much anti-semitism and rabid anti zionists.

All other sources are invalid except those you personally preapprove? Right, you see yourself as smarter than scholars and teachers that have actually researched their works, not just spent 30 seconds or less typing on some post?

Reeeally?

He holds the chair in English although he teaches courses in American literature and culture; doesn't make him an authority on the Palestine conflict. I don't have to approve or disapprove a source, for it to be valid, but I do reserve the right to highlight a biased or flawed source when I see one. thanks for the personal attack; proves I'm right.

I'd say a Harvard approved researcher and writer has more credibility than an IslamoNazi scumbag named challenger. Plus he isn't the only one using these legitimate quotes. Arab leaders told the Palistinians to clear out. Why is it such a big surprise?

Still waiting for you to show me actual copies of these alleged "orders to clear out".

Really?

So what should they write there-copy the famous verses from koran?
Or just leave it to immams in mosque who order genocides and massacres on daily basis?
even if it ever exited no reporter would be let near those-for we know of th condtin of the
freedom of speech there. first goes the reporter then his family.

But anyhow- maybe You first base Your claim that "flotilla members were shot in the back of the head"?
Still waiting since 2-3 weeks ago, shouldn't that be easier to get a scan of those documents from recent time? Rather than some order done 100 years ago
by some muslim in the desert...

So You go first?

OK, so now you claim the Quran ordered them to leave, or their Imams? Riiight.

 

[José]

"Every effort is being made by the Jews to persuade the Arab populace to stay and carry on with their normal lives, to get their shops and businesses open and to be assured that their lives and interests will be safe."
-- Haifa District HQ of the British Police, April 26, 1948, (quoted in Battleground by Samuel Katz).

"Chief among them the effort to prepare plans and military guidelines for the clearing of palestinian towns like Dalet, the effort to put palestinian villages under military siege and bombardment like Beisan, the effort to raze palestinian villages to the ground like Lydda, the effort to build fences and walls surrounding the West Bank and Gaza in the early fifties patrolled by armed soldiers with orders to kill "infiltrators", the effort to murder more than 2000 unarmed civilians trying to return between 1947 and 1951 and the effort to launch retaliatory attacks against palestinian "border" towns from which the "infiltrators" used to enter Israel like Qalqilia."

Ruins of Lydda

 

[Roudy]

According to official UN records...

Zionist policies of territorial expansion

As the British Government progressively disengaged from Palestine, and the United Nations was unable to replace it as an effective governing authority, the Zionist movement moved to establish control over the territory of the nascent Jewish State. At the same time the bordering Arab States made clear that they would intervene.

...the reason Arab states came into the area, was to stop Zionist territorial expansion beyond that which was allocated them in the Partition plan. With that in mind, it makes no sense that they would demand Palestinian-Arabs leave homes they've been living in for generations.

Why would an Arab army demand a person leave a home, that they were coming to protect from foreign invaders?

The claim in the OP is just ludicrous.

Ha ha ha. Did the bigmouth with the little brain say something again? The Arabs invaded because they rejected the plan and wanted to destroy the Jewish state. The attack was never about creating this mythical Palestine. Thats why after 20 years of Arabs being in control of Gaza and West Bank, nobody said anything about a Palestine. Now go sit in the corner, dunce.