In honor of Black History month

Its a myth that you get teased for being smart in the Black community. You get teased for being a nerd. Several of my teammates were good to great students. I was always respected for getting good grades. I wasn't a nerd so thats the difference.

Ah, didn't know it was a myth. You hear it a lot, but it's not true? Sucks to be a nerd no matter what what color you are it sounds like. Nerds used to get teased pretty well where I went to school too.

Nowadays nerds are fetishized a lot in our society.

I always thought nerds were pretty cool. I protected them in school.
 
Its a myth that you get teased for being smart in the Black community. You get teased for being a nerd. Several of my teammates were good to great students. I was always respected for getting good grades. I wasn't a nerd so thats the difference.

Ah, didn't know it was a myth. You hear it a lot, but it's not true? Sucks to be a nerd no matter what what color you are it sounds like. Nerds used to get teased pretty well where I went to school too.

Nowadays nerds are fetishized a lot in our society.

I always thought nerds were pretty cool. I protected them in school.

... For 2 twinkles and 20 gummy bears per day.
 
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Melissa Victoria Harris-Perry (born October 2, 1973; formerly known as Melissa Victoria Harris-Lacewell) is an American writer, professor, television host, and political commentator with a focus on African-American politics. Harris-Perry was born in Seattle. Her father was the first dean of African-American Affairs at the University of Virginia.Her mother, Diana Gray, taught at a community college and was working on her doctorate when they met.
Harris-Perry graduated from Wake Forest University with a bachelor's degree in English and received a PhD in political science from Duke University. She also received an honorary doctorate from Meadville Lombard Theological School and studied theology at Union Theological Seminary in New York.
Harris-Perry was associate professor at the Center for African American Studies at Princeton University and left in 2011 after being denied a full professorship because of “questions about her work and an assessment of where she is” in her career, according to the Center's director at the time, Eddie S. Glaude Jr. Currently she is Professor of Political Science at Tulane University. MSNBC announced on January 5, 2012 that Harris-Perry would host her own weekend show, which began airing on February 18, 2012.
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Love her..not really..Good looking though

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This lady is a force. Michelle Alexander, highly acclaimed civil rights lawyer, advocate, Associate Professor of Law at Ohio State University, and author of The New Jim Crow: Mass Incarceration in the Age of Colorblindness

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[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gln1JwDUI64]Michelle Alexander, author of "The New Jim Crow" - 2013 George E. Kent Lecture - YouTube[/ame]
 

I've not heard of her, have you read her book?

I assume that she is talking about the incarceration of black people.

Does she have statistics that show which blacks are in jail legitimately for crimes they've actually committed and which ones are in jail because of jim crow/racism? I'm wondering what the percentage is? Like only 65% of blacks in jail are there because they actually committed a crime and got caught and the other 35% were because of jim crow/racism?
 

I've not heard of her, have you read her book?

I assume that she is talking about the incarceration of black people.

Does she have statistics that show which blacks are in jail legitimately for crimes they've actually committed and which ones are in jail because of jim crow/racism? I'm wondering what the percentage is? Like only 65% of blacks in jail are there because they actually committed a crime and got caught and the other 35% were because of jim crow/racism?

I'm in the process of reading it. Brings back memories of being harassed by the cops for no reason other than i was black. I saw with my own eyes cops planting evidence on people that later came back to the hood as career criminals after being locked up. There are stats in the You tube video.
 
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In honor of black history month...I have a message to black men...

---Stay and care for your children---90% of the difference is right there.

Honor this and win.

From your president Nixon who formed the DEA and the original war on drugs. Regan took it a step further.

President emphasized that you have to face the fact that the whole problem is really the blacks. The key is to devise a system that recognizes this, while not appearing to.

My message to Black youth is make sure you are able to apply for sainthood. The powers that run this country could care less about you and would prefer you were wiped from the face of this earth. Survive or else they will wipe us out.
 
How did other black kids treat you since you got good grades? Any pushback? Many boys and young men are bored with school, especially in it's current climate. I can see why some parents have to push the grades or no sports thing.
Being bored with school is not a black white thing. I don't think I have ever met a kid who didn't say school was boring.

I would think it was vastly different. As a youngster I could see no way i would make it to 21 alive. if I did, I still could not see what use an education would get me in my environment due to racism. That's what Black parents in the hood are up against trying to get their children educated. I would think little white Johnny in the suburbs did not have those problems.
In the burbs, white kids were bored with and general couldn't see how the subjects they were studding was going to help them in the future. I think the difference is that white parents did see the value. I never lived in an intercity hood but I suspect parents were very doubtful that an education would really make a difference in their kids lives. Most kids need a lot of encouragement from their parents to succeed in school. If the kids sense that the parents don't really believe an education is important, the kids won't believe it either.
 
Being bored with school is not a black white thing. I don't think I have ever met a kid who didn't say school was boring.

I would think it was vastly different. As a youngster I could see no way i would make it to 21 alive. if I did, I still could not see what use an education would get me in my environment due to racism. That's what Black parents in the hood are up against trying to get their children educated. I would think little white Johnny in the suburbs did not have those problems.
In the burbs, white kids were bored with and general couldn't see how the subjects they were studding was going to help them in the future. I think the difference is that white parents did see the value. I never lived in an intercity hood but I suspect parents were very doubtful that an education would really make a difference in their kids lives. Most kids need a lot of encouragement from their parents to succeed in school. If the kids sense that the parents don't really believe an education is important, the kids won't believe it either.

You may have touched on something. Blacks fought in the Revolution but were still enslaved. Blacks fought in the Civil war only to suffer failed Reconstruction and backtracking on promises, We suffered through the "separate but equal segregation", and finally we were given civil rights only to see police presence increased in our neighborhoods. Maybe that did give some parents doubt. Combined with dirty cops and gangs I sometimes wonder how any of us made it out.
 
I would think it was vastly different. As a youngster I could see no way i would make it to 21 alive. if I did, I still could not see what use an education would get me in my environment due to racism. That's what Black parents in the hood are up against trying to get their children educated. I would think little white Johnny in the suburbs did not have those problems.
In the burbs, white kids were bored with and general couldn't see how the subjects they were studding was going to help them in the future. I think the difference is that white parents did see the value. I never lived in an intercity hood but I suspect parents were very doubtful that an education would really make a difference in their kids lives. Most kids need a lot of encouragement from their parents to succeed in school. If the kids sense that the parents don't really believe an education is important, the kids won't believe it either.

You may have touched on something. Blacks fought in the Revolution but were still enslaved. Blacks fought in the Civil war only to suffer failed Reconstruction and backtracking on promises, We suffered through the "separate but equal segregation", and finally we were given civil rights only to see police presence increased in our neighborhoods. Maybe that did give some parents doubt. Combined with dirty cops and gangs I sometimes wonder how any of us made it out.
The one most essential requirement for success is believing you can succeed. Without it you will fail. Very poor people, black or white, who have seen one failure on top of another through their entire lives give up hope and this sense of hopelessness is transmitted to the kids.
 
In the burbs, white kids were bored with and general couldn't see how the subjects they were studding was going to help them in the future. I think the difference is that white parents did see the value. I never lived in an intercity hood but I suspect parents were very doubtful that an education would really make a difference in their kids lives. Most kids need a lot of encouragement from their parents to succeed in school. If the kids sense that the parents don't really believe an education is important, the kids won't believe it either.

You may have touched on something. Blacks fought in the Revolution but were still enslaved. Blacks fought in the Civil war only to suffer failed Reconstruction and backtracking on promises, We suffered through the "separate but equal segregation", and finally we were given civil rights only to see police presence increased in our neighborhoods. Maybe that did give some parents doubt. Combined with dirty cops and gangs I sometimes wonder how any of us made it out.
The one most essential requirement for success is believing you can succeed. Without it you will fail. Very poor people, black or white, who have seen one failure on top of another through their entire lives give up hope and this sense of hopelessness is transmitted to the kids.

The one big difference is that white people have never been forced to fail simply because they belong to a group that is identified by the color of their skin. Generational failure is a killer especially when there are dynamics in play over and above individual effort. One of my uncles is a surgeon. He had to convince my grandpa to pay for all the years of schooling.That was a hard sale to a Black man that grew up in Mississippi.
 
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If it's not actually BHM, why are we talking about black history? There's probably not enough for all 12 months.
 
Asclepias, I wish you had your rep turned on. I would be repping you left and right. Greenies, not reddies.

Just know that your one sentence means more to me than any rep.

Gracie is not alone, Asclepias. There are others who would be pos repping your posts too. You make good sound rational points. Posters like you deserve recognition by your peers.
 
Asclepias, I wish you had your rep turned on. I would be repping you left and right. Greenies, not reddies.

Just know that your one sentence means more to me than any rep.

Gracie is not alone, Asclepias. There are others who would be pos repping your posts too. You make good sound rational points. Posters like you deserve recognition by your peers.

Yes! Aclepias, you really should turn on your rep.
 
If it's not actually BHM, why are we talking about black history? There's probably not enough for all 12 months.

It's called "preparation". Adults do that kind of stuff.

You mad, bro?

Not your bro, not mad, and just think you'll have nothing left to say during the actual month. Like seriously, Aunt Jemima, Jimi Hendrix and that windbag MLK, you need a whole month for that?
 
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Shelby Steele (born January 1, 1946) is an American author, columnist, documentary film maker, and a Robert J. and Marion E. Oster Senior Fellow at Stanford University's Hoover Institution, specialising in the study of race relations, multiculturalism and affirmative action. In 1990, he received the National Book Critics Circle Award in the general nonfiction category for his book The Content of Our Character

Early life and education

Steele was born in Chicago to a black father and a white mother. His father, Shelby Sr., a truck driver, met his mother, Ruth, a social worker, while working for the Congress of Racial Equality (CORE). His twin brother is dean of the School of Education at Stanford University, Claude Steele.

Steele received a B.A. in political science from Coe College, an M.A. in sociology from Southern Illinois University Edwardsville, and a Ph.D. in English from the University of Utah. Steele met his wife, Rita, during his junior year at Coe College in Cedar Rapids, Iowa, where he was one of 18 black students in his class. Steele was active in SCOPE, a group linked to the Southern Christian Leadership Conference (SCLC), and he met Rita at an activist meeting. In 1968, Steele graduated from Coe and went on to earn his master's degree in sociology from Southern Illinois University–Edwardsville. Steele attended the University of Utah, where he taught black literature and studied for his Ph.D. After earning a Ph.D. in English in 1974, Steele was offered a tenured position at the university but turned it down owing to hostility encountered as part of an interracial couple in Utah. Steele accepted a position at San Jose State University as a professor of English literature, teaching there from 1974 to 1991
Career

Steele is a self-described "black conservative". He opposes movements such as affirmative action, which he considers to be unsuccessful liberal campaigns to promote equal opportunity for African Americans. He contends that blacks have been "twice betrayed": first, by slavery and oppression and, second, by group preferences mandated by the government that discourage self-agency and personal responsibility in blacks.
“ The great ingenuity of interventions like affirmative action has not been that they give Americans a way to identify with the struggle of blacks, but that they give them a way to identify with racial virtuousness quite apart from blacks.”

Steele believes that the use of victimization is the greatest hindrance for black Americans. In his view, white Americans see blacks as victims to ease their guilty conscience, while blacks attempt to turn their status as victims into a kind of currency that will purchase nothing of real or lasting value. Therefore, he claims, blacks must stop "buying into this zero-sum game" by adopting a "culture of excellence and achievement" without relying on "set-asides and entitlement
 

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