Income and Insight

[topspin]

If you're still in doubt about things just remember that a prosperous & affluent America does the Democratic Party no good. Without endless Class Warfare and Race-Baiting,they have nothing. Third World misery is actually what they need to seize permanent power. You can't have Class Warfare without it. Divide & Conquer. It's the Saul Alinsky way.

Again no facts, Obama will crush the next war mongerer the repukes send in as a sacraficial lamb. We are tired of occupying countries, we could use those trillions here.

 

[LibocalypseNow]

If you're still in doubt about things just remember that a prosperous & affluent America does the Democratic Party no good. Without endless Class Warfare and Race-Baiting,they have nothing. Third World misery is actually what they need to seize permanent power. You can't have Class Warfare without it. Divide & Conquer. It's the Saul Alinsky way.

Again no facts, Obama will crush the next war mongerer the repukes send in as a sacraficial lamb. We are tired of occupying countries, we could use those trillions here.

Obviously you're still confused. Without Third World misery here in America,the Democratic Party is all done. They desperately rely on Class Warfare & Race-Baiting for their support. You can only have more Class Warfare if the country moves closer to Third World misery. The whiny loser dummies vote Democrat for obvious reasons. A prosperous & affluent America does the Democratic Party no good in the end. Without their endless Class Warfare & Race-Baiting,what do they have? Third World misery is essential for them. It's no coincidence they're taking us there so rapidly. People are catching on though. Hopefully it wont be too late.

 

[Bfgrn]

If you're still in doubt about things just remember that a prosperous & affluent America does the Democratic Party no good. Without endless Class Warfare and Race-Baiting,they have nothing. Third World misery is actually what they need to seize permanent power. You can't have Class Warfare without it. Divide & Conquer. It's the Saul Alinsky way.

Again no facts, Obama will crush the next war mongerer the repukes send in as a sacraficial lamb. We are tired of occupying countries, we could use those trillions here.

Obviously you're still confused. Without Third World misery here in America,the Democratic Party is all done. They desperately rely on Class Warfare & Race-Baiting for their support. You can only have more Class Warfare if the country moves closer to Third World misery. The whiny loser dummies vote Democrat for obvious reasons. A prosperous & affluent America does the Democratic Party no good in the end. Without their endless Class Warfare & Race-Baiting,what do they have? Third World misery is essential for them. It's no coincidence they're taking us there so rapidly. People are catching on though. Hopefully it wont be too late.

Hey, maybe you can also convince yourself that dogshit is really chocolate if you keep chanting that over and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over...

 

[topspin]

If you're still in doubt about things just remember that a prosperous & affluent America does the Democratic Party no good. Without endless Class Warfare and Race-Baiting,they have nothing. Third World misery is actually what they need to seize permanent power. You can't have Class Warfare without it. Divide & Conquer. It's the Saul Alinsky way.

Again no facts, Obama will crush the next war mongerer the repukes send in as a sacraficial lamb. We are tired of occupying countries, we could use those trillions here.

Obviously you're still confused. Without Third World misery here in America,the Democratic Party is all done. They desperately rely on Class Warfare & Race-Baiting for their support. You can only have more Class Warfare if the country moves closer to Third World misery. The whiny loser dummies vote Democrat for obvious reasons. A prosperous & affluent America does the Democratic Party no good in the end. Without their endless Class Warfare & Race-Baiting,what do they have? Third World misery is essential for them. It's no coincidence they're taking us there so rapidly. People are catching on though. Hopefully it wont be too late.

you didn't go to college right
third world misery, LOFL this is the richest large country in the world our poor are fat. You don't think the retarded wars the republicans started had anything to do with Obama's success. LOFL

 

[Care4all]

If you're still in doubt about things just remember that a prosperous & affluent America does the Democratic Party no good. Without endless Class Warfare and Race-Baiting,they have nothing. Third World misery is actually what they need to seize permanent power. You can't have Class Warfare without it. Divide & Conquer. It's the Saul Alinsky way.

Again no facts, Obama will crush the next war mongerer the repukes send in as a sacraficial lamb. We are tired of occupying countries, we could use those trillions here.

Obviously you're still confused. Without Third World misery here in America,the Democratic Party is all done. They desperately rely on Class Warfare & Race-Baiting for their support. You can only have more Class Warfare if the country moves closer to Third World misery. The whiny loser dummies vote Democrat for obvious reasons. A prosperous & affluent America does the Democratic Party no good in the end. Without their endless Class Warfare & Race-Baiting,what do they have? Third World misery is essential for them. It's no coincidence they're taking us there so rapidly. People are catching on though. Hopefully it wont be too late.

that's why a conservative/republican started this thread!

conservatives constantly do what you claim is a democratic trait, but i suppose you are too blinded by the right to even acknowledge such....

have you condemned PC for starting this thread?

no, of course not!

 

[Bfgrn]

Again no facts, Obama will crush the next war mongerer the repukes send in as a sacraficial lamb. We are tired of occupying countries, we could use those trillions here.

Obviously you're still confused. Without Third World misery here in America,the Democratic Party is all done. They desperately rely on Class Warfare & Race-Baiting for their support. You can only have more Class Warfare if the country moves closer to Third World misery. The whiny loser dummies vote Democrat for obvious reasons. A prosperous & affluent America does the Democratic Party no good in the end. Without their endless Class Warfare & Race-Baiting,what do they have? Third World misery is essential for them. It's no coincidence they're taking us there so rapidly. People are catching on though. Hopefully it wont be too late.

that's why a conservative/republican started this thread!

conservatives constantly do what you claim is a democratic trait, but i suppose you are too blinded by the right to even acknowledge such....

have you condemned PC for starting this thread?

no, of course not!

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Care4all again.

 

[LibocalypseNow]

Again no facts, Obama will crush the next war mongerer the repukes send in as a sacraficial lamb. We are tired of occupying countries, we could use those trillions here.

Obviously you're still confused. Without Third World misery here in America,the Democratic Party is all done. They desperately rely on Class Warfare & Race-Baiting for their support. You can only have more Class Warfare if the country moves closer to Third World misery. The whiny loser dummies vote Democrat for obvious reasons. A prosperous & affluent America does the Democratic Party no good in the end. Without their endless Class Warfare & Race-Baiting,what do they have? Third World misery is essential for them. It's no coincidence they're taking us there so rapidly. People are catching on though. Hopefully it wont be too late.

you didn't go to college right
third world misery, LOFL this is the richest large country in the world our poor are fat. You don't think the retarded wars the republicans started had anything to do with Obama's success. LOFL

Well now you're just in denial. We are moving rapidly towards Third World misery and you're just kidding yourself if you don't see this. Which Party does Third World misery benefit the most? Obviously it's the Democratic Party. Class Warfare is an essential part of their platform. Without it they have nothing. The same goes for their endless Race-Baiting. Just ask yourself honestly...Which Party does a prosperous and affluent America benefit the most? The Dems need that Class Warfare division stuff. They wouldn't have it any other way.

 

[topspin]

Obviously you're still confused. Without Third World misery here in America,the Democratic Party is all done. They desperately rely on Class Warfare & Race-Baiting for their support. You can only have more Class Warfare if the country moves closer to Third World misery. The whiny loser dummies vote Democrat for obvious reasons. A prosperous & affluent America does the Democratic Party no good in the end. Without their endless Class Warfare & Race-Baiting,what do they have? Third World misery is essential for them. It's no coincidence they're taking us there so rapidly. People are catching on though. Hopefully it wont be too late.

you didn't go to college right
third world misery, LOFL this is the richest large country in the world our poor are fat. You don't think the retarded wars the republicans started had anything to do with Obama's success. LOFL

Well now you're just in denial. We are moving rapidly towards Third World misery and you're just kidding yourself if you don't see this. Which Party does Third World misery benefit the most? Obviously it's the Democratic Party. Class Warfare is an essential part of their platform. Without it they have nothing. The same goes for their endless Race-Baiting. Just ask yourself honestly...Which Party does a prosperous and affluent America benefit the most? The Dems need that Class Warfare division stuff. They wouldn't have it any other way.

Just because your poor and live on third world wages doesn't mean we do. The average person makes 47,000 and rising ya reTARD

 

[LibocalypseNow]

you didn't go to college right
third world misery, LOFL this is the richest large country in the world our poor are fat. You don't think the retarded wars the republicans started had anything to do with Obama's success. LOFL

Well now you're just in denial. We are moving rapidly towards Third World misery and you're just kidding yourself if you don't see this. Which Party does Third World misery benefit the most? Obviously it's the Democratic Party. Class Warfare is an essential part of their platform. Without it they have nothing. The same goes for their endless Race-Baiting. Just ask yourself honestly...Which Party does a prosperous and affluent America benefit the most? The Dems need that Class Warfare division stuff. They wouldn't have it any other way.

Just because your poor and live on third world wages doesn't mean we do. The average person makes 47,000 and rising ya reTARD

Guess you haven't seen your Hopey Changey's "Community Organized" Chicago lately. Third World misery is already here and it's spreading. So stop living in denial. Just think about which party benefits most from Third World misery and you will have all your answers. The Democratic party is finished without their endless Class Warfare and Race-Baiting. Why would they want things to change? They like things just the way they are. Prosperous people don't support giving all their hard-earned money to whiny loser dummies who don't want to work. So the Democrats need less prosperous people in this country. Without all their whiny loser dummies,where would they be? Think people. Think.

 

[NYcarbineer]

If you're still in doubt about things just remember that a prosperous & affluent America does the Democratic Party no good. Without endless Class Warfare and Race-Baiting,they have nothing. Third World misery is actually what they need to seize permanent power. You can't have Class Warfare without it. Divide & Conquer. It's the Saul Alinsky way.

Again no facts, Obama will crush the next war mongerer the repukes send in as a sacraficial lamb. We are tired of occupying countries, we could use those trillions here.

Obviously you're still confused. Without Third World misery here in America,the Democratic Party is all done. They desperately rely on Class Warfare & Race-Baiting for their support. You can only have more Class Warfare if the country moves closer to Third World misery. The whiny loser dummies vote Democrat for obvious reasons. A prosperous & affluent America does the Democratic Party no good in the end. Without their endless Class Warfare & Race-Baiting,what do they have? Third World misery is essential for them. It's no coincidence they're taking us there so rapidly. People are catching on though. Hopefully it wont be too late.

The people are catching on to what? when? where? I think when they caught on was in 2006 after witnessing what 12 years of a Republican Congress and 6 of that with a Republican president got them.

 

[EriktheRed]

Again no facts, Obama will crush the next war mongerer the repukes send in as a sacraficial lamb. We are tired of occupying countries, we could use those trillions here.

Obviously you're still confused. Without Third World misery here in America,the Democratic Party is all done. They desperately rely on Class Warfare & Race-Baiting for their support. You can only have more Class Warfare if the country moves closer to Third World misery. The whiny loser dummies vote Democrat for obvious reasons. A prosperous & affluent America does the Democratic Party no good in the end. Without their endless Class Warfare & Race-Baiting,what do they have? Third World misery is essential for them. It's no coincidence they're taking us there so rapidly. People are catching on though. Hopefully it wont be too late.

The people are catching on to what? when? where? I think when they caught on was in 2006 after witnessing what 12 years of a Republican Congress and 6 of that with a Republican president got them.

Just because the Prez and his party aren't as popular as they were back in '08 doesn't mean the country is going to totally turn against them. Pres. Obama's polling numbers haven't shrunken to Shrub levels and he still polls higher then the GOP, who are still having their own image problems.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Obviously you're still confused. Without Third World misery here in America,the Democratic Party is all done. They desperately rely on Class Warfare & Race-Baiting for their support. You can only have more Class Warfare if the country moves closer to Third World misery. The whiny loser dummies vote Democrat for obvious reasons. A prosperous & affluent America does the Democratic Party no good in the end. Without their endless Class Warfare & Race-Baiting,what do they have? Third World misery is essential for them. It's no coincidence they're taking us there so rapidly. People are catching on though. Hopefully it wont be too late.

The people are catching on to what? when? where? I think when they caught on was in 2006 after witnessing what 12 years of a Republican Congress and 6 of that with a Republican president got them.

Just because the Prez and his party aren't as popular as they were back in '08 doesn't mean the country is going to totally turn against them. Pres. Obama's polling numbers haven't shrunken to Shrub levels and he still polls higher then the GOP, who are still having their own image problems.

The big problem the GOP has is that sooner or later they'll have to actually nominate a real live person to run against Obama.

 

[Bfgrn]

The people are catching on to what? when? where? I think when they caught on was in 2006 after witnessing what 12 years of a Republican Congress and 6 of that with a Republican president got them.

Just because the Prez and his party aren't as popular as they were back in '08 doesn't mean the country is going to totally turn against them. Pres. Obama's polling numbers haven't shrunken to Shrub levels and he still polls higher then the GOP, who are still having their own image problems.

The big problem the GOP has is that sooner or later they'll have to actually nominate a real live person to run against Obama.

Not necessarily... there's a chance they will nominate Sarah 'empty vessel' Palin...

 

[LibocalypseNow]

Hopey Changey butt-sniffers just hate dat Palin lady. She doesn't play Golf & hate America enough for them. I think Palin will do just fine without their support though. Could she really do any worse than the corrupt & incompetent "Community Organizer" in there now? I doubt it.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Just because the Prez and his party aren't as popular as they were back in '08 doesn't mean the country is going to totally turn against them. Pres. Obama's polling numbers haven't shrunken to Shrub levels and he still polls higher then the GOP, who are still having their own image problems.

The big problem the GOP has is that sooner or later they'll have to actually nominate a real live person to run against Obama.

Not necessarily... there's a chance they will nominate Sarah 'empty vessel' Palin...

Well, she's dreaming of it. She endorsed the MODERATE Repub for governor in Iowa who just happened to be the frontrunner...Iowa caucuses here she comes...

 

[LibocalypseNow]

Sounds like Hopey Changey butt-sniffers are skerd of Palin. I really don't think she could do any worse than the corrupt & incompetent "Community Organizer" in there now. This guy was definitely way way over-rated by the corrupt MSM. Looks like Palin has the Hopey Changey butt-sniffers on the run. You go girl!

 

[Bern80]

I find it hilarious that I only had to read the article to find out you intentionally misrepresented the numbers in order to propagandize them. You managed to make fools of a couple of your rightwing nut buddies too, which is even hilarious-er.

There's nothing misrepresented. You're grasping at straws because it's all you have left. So she left that category out. Citing a 47% approval rating as a smoking gun doesn't really help you. Last I checked that was also still less than half.

She left out the richest category because their approval rating of Obama is higher than the middle class approval rating, and thus demolishes her latest awkward attempt at making a point.

It's pretty sad when a rightwinger has to distort a CNS story in order to propagandize against Obama.

Were you slow in math or something? IT'S 47 FUCKING PERCENT. AS IN LESS THAN HALF, GENIUS. Are you honestly going to try to tell us that, had she cited it, you would be flapping your arms like an idiot, 'but look at that wonderful 47% approval rating by the wealthy' and stand on that as evidence.

How more clear do you need this made for you? A percentage less than half supports HER argument, not yours.

 

[topspin]

Sounds like Hopey Changey butt-sniffers are skerd of Palin. I really don't think she could do any worse than the corrupt & incompetent "Community Organizer" in there now. This guy was definitely way way over-rated by the corrupt MSM. Looks like Palin has the Hopey Changey butt-sniffers on the run. You go girl!

you really are that dumb

 

[editec]

First I bristle a bit at the judgmental characterization of PC who found an interesting topic and put it out there for discussion. It never ceases to amaze me that so many people are unable to focus on a concept but rather attack the messenger who offers it without any consideration for the validity of it. It seems in many cases, all that is required to hold somebody up for contempt is to be uncomfortable with the thesis they present.

It is not ideology to note that it is the least affluent Americans who approve of President Obama. And it is not ideology to wonder why that would be the case when President Bush did not reduce any of their funding, increased most funding, and Obama's policies seem geared to ensure that those in the low income bracket will remain there for the foreseeable future.

sorry, fox. it is a pet peeve of mine and PC has championed it too many times to afford her any benefit of the doubt.

Do you think there is a relationship between income and education, and, if so, how is education related to the polls?


Care to play?

her selective messenger work in the OP, and subsequent anxiety to get to work characterizing 'the left' on its implications beg no quarter from me, either.

is it ideology to note that the most wealthy are more likely than the middle class to approve of obama? doesn't leaving that out make the ideological capital in the other pejorative arguments richer?

the democratic party has a strong bond with the poor afforded them by the civil rights and progressive era. the republicans have lost their grip on their wealthy support base in the campaign reform era. maybe this study lends more insight into that.

as to the messenger, i make no apologies for reading implications of character from the bent of her conclusions.

But for those who want to be honest, character cannot be removed from the equation.

You either want the government to support and/or provide for you more than you want to be independent of government and support yourself or you don't. That is an issue of character.

You either take what steps are necessary to support yourself or you don't bother on the theory that the government is your backup should you need it. That is an issue of character.

You either have the ambition and will to improve and educate yourself and prepare yourself to aspire to be affluent in legal and productive ways. Or you don't. That is an issue of character.

Does that mean that all low income people are lacking in character? Of course not nor did PC remotely suggest that. Lord knows I've experienced times in my life when there was a lot of week left at the end of the money. Hubby and I together, as did many like us, have held down as many as four or five jobs at a time to make ends meet during tough times. We neither expected nor wanted the government to come to our rescue. We wanted the government to inspire and enable an economy in which we could better prosper. And eventually we all did. I like to think there was character involved in that too.

To remove character, individual initiative, personal responsibility, accountability, and consequences for the choices we make from the equation is to be extremely short sighted and doom even more generations to choose to be captives of government programs that mostly put them in that position in the first place. I am not speaking of the intermittant short term situations when somebody is out of work or has a temporary crisis. I'm speaking of a way of life that the government can encourage. Or can choose not to encourage.

Kids should grow up seeing their parents get up, get dressed, get breakfast, get the kids off to school and at least one going to work and bringing home earned cash to support the family. They should see that as the norm and not mom and/or pop receiving a government check and sitting around muttering about how bad things are.

Character is destiny...until destiny negates it.

I used to work with quadraplegics.

Many of them had been extremely hard working and successful people before destiny overcame the positive effects of their noble characters.

Character MIGHT be destiny, though.

Until it isn't.

 

[The Rabbi]

No, their characters were just more revealed as a result of their circumstances. There are plenty of people who find themselves in that situation and overcome it.