Incompetent United Air Lines Physically Drags Passenger Off Plane For Their (Airline) Mistake

[Divine Wind]

What law did Dao break?

Refusing the leave the aircraft when asked.

Expert suggests the law was broken on Flight 3411, but not by United Airlines

Andrew Harakas, partner and aviation expert at Clyde & Co law firm, told The Independent that Mr Dao was effectively obliged to disembark under federal law if asked to do so by staff.

“Once you’re a passenger on board an aircraft you can’t interfere with the crew performing their duties or the aircraft being operated, that’s the basic rule,” he said.

“Once you are on board an aircraft it is a general requirement of conditions that you obey the orders of the pilot and cabin crew,” he said, while adding that the orders often relate to safety instructions such as requiring passengers to fasten their seatbelts.

“Once you disobey an order of the cabin crew you are potentially in trouble, however unreasonable it is,” he added.

Yup....basically a trespassing offense
Let him go to trial as a 69 year old doctor who was being forcibly ejected after explaining he had patients to take care of
A jury will love that

1) Trespassing is just one of many crimes he committed.

2) He'll be able to explain his "patients" to the Judge and/or jury. From what I've read, he can only practice one day a week. If the next day wasn't that day, it will look bad for him.

"trespassing"

1. While the laws generally favor big business over the little guy, there is absolutely no reason to expect this poor man to think that sitting in the seat he had paid for made him guilty of "trespassing".

2. IOW, you're agreeing with rightwinger that the thugs assaulted an elderly man, for no apparent reason.

You really do need to scroll up and read all the Federal and State laws on this issue.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

....Especially if the victim is not white.

Wow. Didn't figure you for a racist, but that's black and white racism right there, Luddly.

So now, a statement of fact is "racist"?

You're getting really desperate.

 

[Divine Wind]

....Especially if the victim is not white.

Wow. Didn't figure you for a racist, but that's black and white racism right there, Luddly.

So now, a statement of fact is "racist"?

You're getting really desperate.

Racists are the ones who are desperate, Luddly.

 

[percysunshine]

Has anyone asked;

Was the guy drug out of the plane one of a random selection of passengers? Or a targeted selection?

 

[Luddly Neddite]

....Especially if the victim is not white.

Wow. Didn't figure you for a racist, but that's black and white racism right there, Luddly.

So now, a statement of fact is "racist"?

You're getting really desperate.

Racists are the ones who are desperate, Luddly.

Oh. So he's not Asian?

Prove it.

You silly twerp.

 

[rightwinger]

United Airlines CEO: ‘This will never happen again’

This will never happen again," Munoz said during a Wednesday morning interview with the ABC News morning show. "We are not going to put a law enforcement official onto a plane to take them off … to remove a booked, paid, seated passenger; we can’t do that."

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Has anyone asked;

Was the guy drug out of the plane one of a random selection of passengers? Or a targeted selection?

At first, it was reported it was random, done by computer. Later, it was reported it was basically eeny, meeny, miny, mo.

But ask Divine.Wind cuz, he says he knows everything and needs the money.

 

[HenryBHough]

For the airport division of The Chicago PD the greatest line-item in the budget is NOT personnel. It's jackboots.

 

[rightwinger]

...But a large airline like United probably ha a small fleet of executive jets, small turboprops or helicopters at their disposal....they are just too cheap to use them

1) It was Republic airlines, a subcontracted airline, not United, flying an E170 70-seat jet.

2) No Hollywood-like fleets of "executive jets, small turboprops or helicopters at their disposal".

3) It's a business. Bad PR is bad for business, but so is spending a million bucks to make $100,000.

If it was a Republic flight.....why is the CEO of United groveling on a daily basis?

Yes, a huge airline like United has other aircraft at their disposal. They also have what is known as "connections" in the industry where they can get access to small aircraft if they need them....The only hitch is I doubt if they can pay with useless vouchers

 

[Divine Wind]

Oh. So he's not Asian?

Prove it.

You silly twerp.

Straw man argument to avoid your racist posts.

Your constant name-calling wherever you are caught in a lie or error is a sign of weakness.

 

[Divine Wind]

...But a large airline like United probably ha a small fleet of executive jets, small turboprops or helicopters at their disposal....they are just too cheap to use them

1) It was Republic airlines, a subcontracted airline, not United, flying an E170 70-seat jet.

2) No Hollywood-like fleets of "executive jets, small turboprops or helicopters at their disposal".

3) It's a business. Bad PR is bad for business, but so is spending a million bucks to make $100,000.

If it was a Republic flight.....why is the CEO of United groveling on a daily basis?

Yes, a huge airline like United has other aircraft at their disposal. They also have what is known as "connections" in the industry where they can get access to small aircraft if they need them....The only hitch is I doubt if they can pay with useless vouchers

1) Because the passengers were carrying United tickets even though the operations were being run by Republic.

2) So you really think they should spend a million bucks to make $100,000? Interesting.

 

[Divine Wind]

For the airport division of The Chicago PD the greatest line-item in the budget is NOT personnel. It's jackboots.

Yes. Let's get rid of the police and just arm all passengers with box knives or, if they have a license to carry, firearms.

 

[Divine Wind]

United Airlines CEO: ‘This will never happen again’

This will never happen again," Munoz said during a Wednesday morning interview with the ABC News morning show. "We are not going to put a law enforcement official onto a plane to take them off … to remove a booked, paid, seated passenger; we can’t do that."

Translation: They'll deplane the entire flight then replane it with selected people.

 

[Divine Wind]

Has anyone asked;

Was the guy drug out of the plane one of a random selection of passengers? Or a targeted selection?

Yes they've asked. The usual procedure is "random" in that airlines go by lowest-fare category and last check-in time then work their way up the list.

Solution for savvy travelers is, if flying on a cheap ticket, to check-in early to avoid being bumped.

 

[percysunshine]

Has anyone asked;

Was the guy drug out of the plane one of a random selection of passengers? Or a targeted selection?

At first, it was reported it was random, done by computer. Later, it was reported it was basically eeny, meeny, miny, mo.

But ask Divine.Wind cuz, he says he knows everything and needs the money.

What if it was a DHS rendition? Has anyone talked to the guy yet?

 

[rightwinger]

...But a large airline like United probably ha a small fleet of executive jets, small turboprops or helicopters at their disposal....they are just too cheap to use them

1) It was Republic airlines, a subcontracted airline, not United, flying an E170 70-seat jet.

2) No Hollywood-like fleets of "executive jets, small turboprops or helicopters at their disposal".

3) It's a business. Bad PR is bad for business, but so is spending a million bucks to make $100,000.

If it was a Republic flight.....why is the CEO of United groveling on a daily basis?

Yes, a huge airline like United has other aircraft at their disposal. They also have what is known as "connections" in the industry where they can get access to small aircraft if they need them....The only hitch is I doubt if they can pay with useless vouchers

1) Because the passengers were carrying United tickets even though the operations were being run by Republic.

2) So you really think they should spend a million bucks to make $100,000? Interesting.

A small aircraft flying 300 miles does not cost a million bucks. You could go out on the tarmac and buy an airplane for less

United has lost more than a million bucks because of the horrible way they treated the passengers on that flight and how callous their response to the video was

 

[rightwinger]

United Airlines CEO: ‘This will never happen again’

This will never happen again," Munoz said during a Wednesday morning interview with the ABC News morning show. "We are not going to put a law enforcement official onto a plane to take them off … to remove a booked, paid, seated passenger; we can’t do that."

Translation: They'll deplane the entire flight then replane it with selected people.

Not as horrific as beating the shit out of people and dragging them off

 

[percysunshine]

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What is the flight time to Guantanamo Bay? Maybe the guy had free air fare and has free room and board by now.

 

[Billo_Really]

Finally you come clean and honest! Yes, just like a business owner with a belligerent, raging customer, the airline notified the Chicago police.

Now, if you had reported Rodney King for drunk driving, does this make you responsible for the actions of the LAPD?

What do you mean "come clean"? Up to now, you've been playing bullshit word games.

 

[martybegan]

I understand and basically have no problem overbooking... as long as the airlines understand that one they do that and they run into a situation like 'this' they will be forced to pay whatever the customer wants / will accept to give up their seat....not what THEY are willing to pay....and they sure as hell have no fight to physically remove a passenger from the plane in such a situation as this.

I have no doubt that had they explained to the people on board the plane that he was a doctor who had to be at his destination AND offered MORE money someone would have ended up volunteering.

This also should have been done prior to letting people board. Once you are in your seat I can just imagine the indignation one would feel being told "get off to let someone else on"

Plus...what about luggage? Did they only "randomly pick" from passengers with no checked luggage? If not, what about his luggage that went on without him? Or did they plan on delaying until his luggage was dug out from the hold?

I have a feeling the luggage would end up at the destination on the first plane, and you would catch up to it later.