Independence Day 2019

[gipper]

A day of mourning for liberty lost...

The Myth of Independence Day...
Today, the Jeffersonian ideals of personal natural rights and governmental legitimacy conditioned upon the individual consent of the governed have themselves become myths.

In Jefferson’s day, the voters knew all that the government did, and it knew nothing about them. Today, government operates largely in secrecy, and it captures our every communication.

In Jefferson’s day, the government needed the people’s expressed permission to tax and regulate them. Today, the people need the government’s permission to do nearly everything.

In Jefferson’s day, his colleagues fought for independence from England. Today, half the country is dependent on the government.

Did you consent to a Congress that steals liberty and property on a whim without due process; to a president who starts wars, raises taxes and spends money in defiance of Congress; or to courts that let folks be tried twice for the same crime or punished for crimes not yet committed?

Welcome to Independence Day 2019.
The Myth of Independence Day - LewRockwell LewRockwell.com

 

[beagle9]

A day of mourning for liberty lost...

The Myth of Independence Day...
Today, the Jeffersonian ideals of personal natural rights and governmental legitimacy conditioned upon the individual consent of the governed have themselves become myths.

In Jefferson’s day, the voters knew all that the government did, and it knew nothing about them. Today, government operates largely in secrecy, and it captures our every communication.

In Jefferson’s day, the government needed the people’s expressed permission to tax and regulate them. Today, the people need the government’s permission to do nearly everything.

In Jefferson’s day, his colleagues fought for independence from England. Today, half the country is dependent on the government.

Did you consent to a Congress that steals liberty and property on a whim without due process; to a president who starts wars, raises taxes and spends money in defiance of Congress; or to courts that let folks be tried twice for the same crime or punished for crimes not yet committed?

Welcome to Independence Day 2019.
The Myth of Independence Day - LewRockwell LewRockwell.com

We definitely have changed, and we have lost a lot.... Trump is fighting an up hill battle to re-energize the concept, but he is being fought at every angle and every turn by the deranged left.

 

[Terri4Trump]

It will never go back to the pure liberty we had long ago. But then again, in a nation of 700 million, mega cities, supersonic planes, in a world of terrorists and nukes, COULD we even go back to the way it was long ago? Maybe not. We have lost much but we have gained quite a bit, and we must stay safe too.

 

[beagle9]

The PBS show is great in our capital. Watching with the family, and so far so great.

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

 

[Dekster]

All those homesteaders were dependent on welfare back in the day in the form of free land. The government paid its bills back in the day. Firearms were regulated back in the day. China and America traded freely and openly before conservatives screwed up that too. Oh the good old days pre-conservatives. We should get back there.

 

[Terri4Trump]

All those homesteaders were dependent on welfare back in the day in the form of free land. The government paid its bills back in the day. Firearms were regulated back in the day. China and America traded freely and openly before conservatives screwed up that too. Oh the good old days pre-conservatives. We should get back there.

Lay down the crackpipe you retard.

 

[Dekster]

All those homesteaders were dependent on welfare back in the day in the form of free land. The government paid its bills back in the day. Firearms were regulated back in the day. China and America traded freely and openly before conservatives screwed up that too. Oh the good old days pre-conservatives. We should get back there.

Lay down the crackpipe you retard.

Learn history, you republican.

 

[Justin Richardson]

It will never go back to the pure liberty we had long ago. But then again, in a nation of 700 million, mega cities, supersonic planes, in a world of terrorists and nukes, COULD we even go back to the way it was long ago? Maybe not. We have lost much but we have gained quite a bit, and we must stay safe too.

Who would have thought that after 245 years later, we would be fighting a much different "Revolutionary War"? One that defines of who we are as a nation - Under God. The one we would be so divided on many issues, that it is causing the country to take a much contrasting turn. While the rest of America celebrating her Independence as a Republic, the Democrats and the left want to dismiss it. They want to protest the way Trump wanted to celebrate the birth of a Nation by having a military-style parade and Fourth of July celebration unlike no other. And the left want to knock it down and complain as if it was "inappropriate" to have any celebration at all. All because it was "politicized".

Well, of course, the Fourth of July is political. It's all about how we became a nation and fought against the mighty Redcoats and the iniquitous King George. Of course, it was political when we endure the Liberty Bell, the Battle of Lexington and Concord. As well, as the Battle on Bunker Hill.

It was also political when the Signers of the Declaration "signed" that infamous document stating we "no longer have to put up with the stronghold of England's brutal regime and tolerance of King George.

It's ashame that we have come this far, having to know we have people out there that really don't give a damned about their own country. As if, somehow "America" was all about them. And if we don't agree with their premise, we will be mocked and ridiculed. And with the use of violence.
"Under one Nation" doesn't seem to be synonymous to the left or the Democrats. They rather tear down any and all meanings of "What it means to be an American". They rather have open borders - so we can just allow anyone into the country - so they can get voter IDs, free welfare benefits, work illegally so they can return back to their country while they continue to scam the rest of the law-abiding, taxpaying citizens.
That is the "America" they want.

Not to mention, do anything possible to "erase" any or all possibility of our American history. So they can teach others "What America Means to them". NOT What America truly stands for.

 

[gipper]

It will never go back to the pure liberty we had long ago. But then again, in a nation of 700 million, mega cities, supersonic planes, in a world of terrorists and nukes, COULD we even go back to the way it was long ago? Maybe not. We have lost much but we have gained quite a bit, and we must stay safe too.

Nation of 700 million??? WTF!

 

[gipper]

All those homesteaders were dependent on welfare back in the day in the form of free land. The government paid its bills back in the day. Firearms were regulated back in the day. China and America traded freely and openly before conservatives screwed up that too. Oh the good old days pre-conservatives. We should get back there.

Is that just a flame post or do you really believe it?

 

[Tehon]

They want to protest the way Trump wanted to celebrate the birth of a Nation by having a military-style parade and Fourth of July celebration unlike no other. And the left want to knock it down and complain as if it was "inappropriate" to have any celebration at all. All because it was "politicized".

Why do you care what "they" think? Why the butt hurt? Don't you see how you are being manipulated on an emotional level?

Not to mention, do anything possible to "erase" any or all possibility of our American history. So they can teach others "What America Means to them". NOT What America truly stands for.

What you are really saying is "not what it means to you".

 

[gipper]

A day of mourning for liberty lost...

The Myth of Independence Day...
Today, the Jeffersonian ideals of personal natural rights and governmental legitimacy conditioned upon the individual consent of the governed have themselves become myths.

In Jefferson’s day, the voters knew all that the government did, and it knew nothing about them. Today, government operates largely in secrecy, and it captures our every communication.

In Jefferson’s day, the government needed the people’s expressed permission to tax and regulate them. Today, the people need the government’s permission to do nearly everything.

In Jefferson’s day, his colleagues fought for independence from England. Today, half the country is dependent on the government.

Did you consent to a Congress that steals liberty and property on a whim without due process; to a president who starts wars, raises taxes and spends money in defiance of Congress; or to courts that let folks be tried twice for the same crime or punished for crimes not yet committed?

Welcome to Independence Day 2019.
The Myth of Independence Day - LewRockwell LewRockwell.com

We definitely have changed, and we have lost a lot.... Trump is fighting an up hill battle to re-energize the concept, but he is being fought at every angle and every turn by the deranged left.

I don’t believe that. Trump isn’t fighting to return our lost liberty or protect our freedom. He has done nothing to limit the power and coercion of government. In fact, he is expanding it just as his predecessors did.

 

[Dekster]

All those homesteaders were dependent on welfare back in the day in the form of free land. The government paid its bills back in the day. Firearms were regulated back in the day. China and America traded freely and openly before conservatives screwed up that too. Oh the good old days pre-conservatives. We should get back there.

Is that just a flame post or do you really believe it?

I believe history. Not elementary school history coloring books.

 

[Tehon]

A day of mourning for liberty lost...

The Myth of Independence Day...
Today, the Jeffersonian ideals of personal natural rights and governmental legitimacy conditioned upon the individual consent of the governed have themselves become myths.

In Jefferson’s day, the voters knew all that the government did, and it knew nothing about them. Today, government operates largely in secrecy, and it captures our every communication.

In Jefferson’s day, the government needed the people’s expressed permission to tax and regulate them. Today, the people need the government’s permission to do nearly everything.

In Jefferson’s day, his colleagues fought for independence from England. Today, half the country is dependent on the government.

Did you consent to a Congress that steals liberty and property on a whim without due process; to a president who starts wars, raises taxes and spends money in defiance of Congress; or to courts that let folks be tried twice for the same crime or punished for crimes not yet committed?

Welcome to Independence Day 2019.
The Myth of Independence Day - LewRockwell LewRockwell.com

"The second radical concept that underscores the Declaration of Independence is that no government is valid unless it enjoys the consent of the governed."

Congress has an abysmal approval rating. Unfortunately, we don't seem to have an enlightened populace willing to meet the challenge that the second radical concept alludes to.

 

[gipper]

A day of mourning for liberty lost...

The Myth of Independence Day...
Today, the Jeffersonian ideals of personal natural rights and governmental legitimacy conditioned upon the individual consent of the governed have themselves become myths.

In Jefferson’s day, the voters knew all that the government did, and it knew nothing about them. Today, government operates largely in secrecy, and it captures our every communication.

In Jefferson’s day, the government needed the people’s expressed permission to tax and regulate them. Today, the people need the government’s permission to do nearly everything.

In Jefferson’s day, his colleagues fought for independence from England. Today, half the country is dependent on the government.

Did you consent to a Congress that steals liberty and property on a whim without due process; to a president who starts wars, raises taxes and spends money in defiance of Congress; or to courts that let folks be tried twice for the same crime or punished for crimes not yet committed?

Welcome to Independence Day 2019.
The Myth of Independence Day - LewRockwell LewRockwell.com

"The second radical concept that underscores the Declaration of Independence is that no government is valid unless it enjoys the consent of the governed."

Congress has an abysmal approval rating. Unfortunately, we don't seem to have an enlightened populace willing to meet the challenge that the second radical concept alludes to.

Agreed. Our government doesn’t have the consent of the people. They should all resign. They don’t care about the people’s consent. We are all just serfs and dupes to them.

 

[gipper]

All those homesteaders were dependent on welfare back in the day in the form of free land. The government paid its bills back in the day. Firearms were regulated back in the day. China and America traded freely and openly before conservatives screwed up that too. Oh the good old days pre-conservatives. We should get back there.

Is that just a flame post or do you really believe it?

I believe history. Not elementary school history coloring books.

Oh the ignorance of the partisan is always amazing to behold.

 

[Justin Richardson]

What you are really saying is "not what it means to you".

Obviously, that is YOUR opinion. Not factual.

 

[Dekster]

All those homesteaders were dependent on welfare back in the day in the form of free land. The government paid its bills back in the day. Firearms were regulated back in the day. China and America traded freely and openly before conservatives screwed up that too. Oh the good old days pre-conservatives. We should get back there.

Is that just a flame post or do you really believe it?

I believe history. Not elementary school history coloring books.

Oh the ignorance of the partisan is always amazing to behold.

Word. And that you are OCD with it is even worse. In the mean time, you have not refuted a thing I said, so keep it up. Displaying the pride in your coloring book is precious.

 

[gipper]

All those homesteaders were dependent on welfare back in the day in the form of free land. The government paid its bills back in the day. Firearms were regulated back in the day. China and America traded freely and openly before conservatives screwed up that too. Oh the good old days pre-conservatives. We should get back there.

Is that just a flame post or do you really believe it?

I believe history. Not elementary school history coloring books.

Oh the ignorance of the partisan is always amazing to behold.

Word. And that you are OCD with it is even worse. In the mean time, you have not refuted a thing I said, so keep it up. Displaying the pride in your coloring book is precious.

Go away. I don’t like trolls mucking up my threads.