Inside Queens' hidden sex district

Their bodies, their choice... Decriminalize it; and you cut out seedy underworld aspects of prostitution, that gives it such a bad rap. Especially cuts out the human trafficking, for which illegal prostitution is mostly driven by...

That would make perfect sense in dealing with English speaking prostitutes that engage in it. I seriously doubt these prostitutes speak English well enough. What this means is that they can be threatened in all kinds of ways by what will happen to them if they are caught or if they leave.
In a legalized setting; these English speaking girls would be “competing” with these trafficked girls. The capitalistic nature of people in general would prompt the English speaking to expose their illegal competitors. In short order there would be little to no market for them. They’d be run out by honest workers...

NIMBY---that's why. But, no. they would not be run out. Hell, that was the same rational used for Colorado but it didn't do anything to the black market because you get more for less (including potency).
Legalizing pot in michigan hasn’t hurt my friends business yet.

We will see in 2020 when you’ll be able to buy it from a store without a medical marajuana card. Right now you can possess it without a card but someone has to gift you the pot.

If you can get it everywhere that might dry up their business but you are correct right now my friends can sell you better for less.
 
It’s New York City’s Grand Central of illicit sex.

A tiny Queens block has become a booming hotbed of hookers operating out of at least eight Chinese massage parlors, The Post found.

The slim strip of 40th Road in Flushing’s Chinatown, just a short walk from Citi Field, has become a 24/7 destination for sex-seeking horndogs from all over the metro area, as “masseuses” brazenly compete for johns on the narrow sidewalks.

One former NYC crimefighter said he hasn’t seen such a dense concentration of flesh factories in years.

Non-Asian men are specifically targeted by the Chinese pimps, working girls and spotters who steer customers into storefront spaces or second-floor “spas” for hour-long encounters.

It’s the same block where a prostitute committed suicide in 2017 by leaping from a building as she was about to be arrested during a NYPD sting.
https://nypost.com/2019/02/02/inside-queens-hidden-sex-district/

Looks like sex trafficking to me. Any particular reason the do-gooders are ignoring this?
They need to legalize prostitution. If it were easy, safe and legal pimps would lose their power and customers.

Do you know what has killed street walking? Tinder and smartphones. Now a girl can go selectively find her stable of customers from her living room

There would still be sex traffickers but it would be for freaks who want to abuse and rape women. Or minors. Or boys. But most guys like the little Asians you described just want to fuck a hot American and they have $200 to spend. Or $1000

Think Amsterdam
I’m not sure Amsterdam is the best example. Lots of Eastern European girls are still being “held virtually captive” by pimps who hold their passports, and get them drug addicted.
Like I said, most people will go to a legal prostitute who doesn’t need a John if it were legal. But then it’s probably expensive too. I bet these women are cheap.

I don’t think you will ever stop a black market. If there is a demand you will find criminals willing to break the law. So there is no silver bullet.

If it were legal and guys knew how tinder works they could go on and swipe right on girls who are in their 20s. Those gils can selectively pick the guys they are willing to meet for a date. Just like a real date. Then if they agree he should be able to legally exchange $100 for sex. Or whatever dollar amount she feels she is worth.

So if tinder prostitution were legal then every guy who wanted a hooker would go there. But it’s not legal. Still a lot of guys and girls use it this way.

Tinder single handedly took thousands of prostitutes off the streets. If you want to get more off the streets make tinder legal and we’ll known that’s how you find hookers. And guys should report any women who seem like they are being trafficked. It would be like calling child protective services.
Legalization is the only “silver bullet”. Like in Patong. It’s all “at will” employment, and capitalism based. Bars try to retain the best Mamasans. Theses mamasans try to get the best deals for their girls at which ever bar they work out of. In turn the girls decide which mamasan they want to work for depending on location, and the deal the mamasan has worked out with a given bar. If the bar dries up, or a better deal is offered by a different Mamasan. The girls move on to that bar, working for that mamasan. It’s completely voluntary. And the girls are free to come (should they accept the terms that a given mamasan has worked out with a bar); or go as they please.

The vast majority of the girls and women in Patong speak the language. Sometimes they are sold by their own families to brothels.
 
Their bodies, their choice... Decriminalize it; and you cut out seedy underworld aspects of prostitution, that gives it such a bad rap. Especially cuts out the human trafficking, for which illegal prostitution is mostly driven by...

That would make perfect sense in dealing with English speaking prostitutes that engage in it. I seriously doubt these prostitutes speak English well enough. What this means is that they can be threatened in all kinds of ways by what will happen to them if they are caught or if they leave.
In a legalized setting; these English speaking girls would be “competing” with these trafficked girls. The capitalistic nature of people in general would prompt the English speaking to expose their illegal competitors. In short order there would be little to no market for them. They’d be run out by honest workers...

NIMBY---that's why. But, no. they would not be run out. Hell, that was the same rational used for Colorado but it didn't do anything to the black market because you get more for less (including potency).
Potency!? You’re kidding right? You do of course realize the exorbitant cost of business in illegal prostitution vs legalized would run them out in short order. Pay offs. Enforcement. Having to provide for “their girls” constant maitainence of secrecy, Importation costs, and risks. Human traffickers simply could not turn a profit against openly practicing, voluntary, legal girls...
I would never go to them if I could go to a legal place. They would lose my business.
 
It’s New York City’s Grand Central of illicit sex.

A tiny Queens block has become a booming hotbed of hookers operating out of at least eight Chinese massage parlors, The Post found.

The slim strip of 40th Road in Flushing’s Chinatown, just a short walk from Citi Field, has become a 24/7 destination for sex-seeking horndogs from all over the metro area, as “masseuses” brazenly compete for johns on the narrow sidewalks.

One former NYC crimefighter said he hasn’t seen such a dense concentration of flesh factories in years.

Non-Asian men are specifically targeted by the Chinese pimps, working girls and spotters who steer customers into storefront spaces or second-floor “spas” for hour-long encounters.

It’s the same block where a prostitute committed suicide in 2017 by leaping from a building as she was about to be arrested during a NYPD sting.
https://nypost.com/2019/02/02/inside-queens-hidden-sex-district/

Looks like sex trafficking to me. Any particular reason the do-gooders are ignoring this?
They need to legalize prostitution. If it were easy, safe and legal pimps would lose their power and customers.

Do you know what has killed street walking? Tinder and smartphones. Now a girl can go selectively find her stable of customers from her living room

There would still be sex traffickers but it would be for freaks who want to abuse and rape women. Or minors. Or boys. But most guys like the little Asians you described just want to fuck a hot American and they have $200 to spend. Or $1000

Think Amsterdam
I’m not sure Amsterdam is the best example. Lots of Eastern European girls are still being “held virtually captive” by pimps who hold their passports, and get them drug addicted.
Like I said, most people will go to a legal prostitute who doesn’t need a John if it were legal. But then it’s probably expensive too. I bet these women are cheap.

I don’t think you will ever stop a black market. If there is a demand you will find criminals willing to break the law. So there is no silver bullet.

If it were legal and guys knew how tinder works they could go on and swipe right on girls who are in their 20s. Those gils can selectively pick the guys they are willing to meet for a date. Just like a real date. Then if they agree he should be able to legally exchange $100 for sex. Or whatever dollar amount she feels she is worth.

So if tinder prostitution were legal then every guy who wanted a hooker would go there. But it’s not legal. Still a lot of guys and girls use it this way.

Tinder single handedly took thousands of prostitutes off the streets. If you want to get more off the streets make tinder legal and we’ll known that’s how you find hookers. And guys should report any women who seem like they are being trafficked. It would be like calling child protective services.
Legalization is the only “silver bullet”. Like in Patong. It’s all “at will” employment, and capitalism based. Bars try to retain the best Mamasans. Theses mamasans try to get the best deals for their girls at which ever bar they work out of. In turn the girls decide which mamasan they want to work for depending on location, and the deal the mamasan has worked out with a given bar. If the bar dries up, or a better deal is offered by a different Mamasan. The girls move on to that bar, working for that mamasan. It’s completely voluntary. And the girls are free to come (should they accept the terms that a given mamasan has worked out with a bar); or go as they please.
When I say there is no silver bullet it’s because even if you legalize it there will still be guys who want minors or to be rough with women. So there will always be a small black market.

The world will always have bad guys. For example our solution doesn’t help members of nambla
Of course assholes and scumbags, are going to asshole, and scumbag. And these people will still be pursued, and prosecuted. Legalized prostitutes would be your best snitches and informers for ferreting such miscreants out.
 
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Their bodies, their choice... Decriminalize it; and you cut out seedy underworld aspects of prostitution, that gives it such a bad rap. Especially cuts out the human trafficking, for which illegal prostitution is mostly driven by...

That would make perfect sense in dealing with English speaking prostitutes that engage in it. I seriously doubt these prostitutes speak English well enough. What this means is that they can be threatened in all kinds of ways by what will happen to them if they are caught or if they leave.
In a legalized setting; these English speaking girls would be “competing” with these trafficked girls. The capitalistic nature of people in general would prompt the English speaking to expose their illegal competitors. In short order there would be little to no market for them. They’d be run out by honest workers...

NIMBY---that's why. But, no. they would not be run out. Hell, that was the same rational used for Colorado but it didn't do anything to the black market because you get more for less (including potency).
Potency!? You’re kidding right? You do of course realize the exorbitant cost of business in illegal prostitution vs legalized would run them out in short order. Pay offs. Enforcement. Having to provide for “their girls” constant maitainence of secrecy, Importation costs, and risks. Human traffickers simply could not turn a profit against openly practicing, voluntary, legal girls...

Ya, you know, laced? Or just plain old marijuana that is cheaper because of taxes....

The exorbitant cost of legal prostitution would ensure that it would continue.
My friends shit isn’t laced. It’s the same shit he sells to the dispensary.

There is no cost to legal prostitution. Hooker sets up profile on tinder. I swipe right on her. She looks at my bio and decides if I’m the kind of creep she wants to have as a client. We meet just like on a dating site.

You sound like a taxi driver who said Uber wouldn’t work. Lol
 
They need to legalize prostitution. If it were easy, safe and legal pimps would lose their power and customers.

Do you know what has killed street walking? Tinder and smartphones. Now a girl can go selectively find her stable of customers from her living room

There would still be sex traffickers but it would be for freaks who want to abuse and rape women. Or minors. Or boys. But most guys like the little Asians you described just want to fuck a hot American and they have $200 to spend. Or $1000

Think Amsterdam
I’m not sure Amsterdam is the best example. Lots of Eastern European girls are still being “held virtually captive” by pimps who hold their passports, and get them drug addicted.
Like I said, most people will go to a legal prostitute who doesn’t need a John if it were legal. But then it’s probably expensive too. I bet these women are cheap.

I don’t think you will ever stop a black market. If there is a demand you will find criminals willing to break the law. So there is no silver bullet.

If it were legal and guys knew how tinder works they could go on and swipe right on girls who are in their 20s. Those gils can selectively pick the guys they are willing to meet for a date. Just like a real date. Then if they agree he should be able to legally exchange $100 for sex. Or whatever dollar amount she feels she is worth.

So if tinder prostitution were legal then every guy who wanted a hooker would go there. But it’s not legal. Still a lot of guys and girls use it this way.

Tinder single handedly took thousands of prostitutes off the streets. If you want to get more off the streets make tinder legal and we’ll known that’s how you find hookers. And guys should report any women who seem like they are being trafficked. It would be like calling child protective services.
Legalization is the only “silver bullet”. Like in Patong. It’s all “at will” employment, and capitalism based. Bars try to retain the best Mamasans. Theses mamasans try to get the best deals for their girls at which ever bar they work out of. In turn the girls decide which mamasan they want to work for depending on location, and the deal the mamasan has worked out with a given bar. If the bar dries up, or a better deal is offered by a different Mamasan. The girls move on to that bar, working for that mamasan. It’s completely voluntary. And the girls are free to come (should they accept the terms that a given mamasan has worked out with a bar); or go as they please.
When I say there is no silver bullet it’s because even if you legalize it there will still be guys who want minors or to be rough with women. So there will always be a small black market.

The world will always have bad guys. For example our solution doesn’t help members of nambla
Of course Ashlie’s, and scumbags, are going to asshole, and scumbag. And these people will still be pursued, and prosecuted. Legalized prostitutes would be your best snitches and informers for ferreting such miscreants out.
Are you calling me an asshole and scumbag?
 
It’s New York City’s Grand Central of illicit sex.

A tiny Queens block has become a booming hotbed of hookers operating out of at least eight Chinese massage parlors, The Post found.

The slim strip of 40th Road in Flushing’s Chinatown, just a short walk from Citi Field, has become a 24/7 destination for sex-seeking horndogs from all over the metro area, as “masseuses” brazenly compete for johns on the narrow sidewalks.

One former NYC crimefighter said he hasn’t seen such a dense concentration of flesh factories in years.

Non-Asian men are specifically targeted by the Chinese pimps, working girls and spotters who steer customers into storefront spaces or second-floor “spas” for hour-long encounters.

It’s the same block where a prostitute committed suicide in 2017 by leaping from a building as she was about to be arrested during a NYPD sting.
https://nypost.com/2019/02/02/inside-queens-hidden-sex-district/

Looks like sex trafficking to me. Any particular reason the do-gooders are ignoring this?
They need to legalize prostitution. If it were easy, safe and legal pimps would lose their power and customers.

Do you know what has killed street walking? Tinder and smartphones. Now a girl can go selectively find her stable of customers from her living room

There would still be sex traffickers but it would be for freaks who want to abuse and rape women. Or minors. Or boys. But most guys like the little Asians you described just want to fuck a hot American and they have $200 to spend. Or $1000

Think Amsterdam
I’m not sure Amsterdam is the best example. Lots of Eastern European girls are still being “held virtually captive” by pimps who hold their passports, and get them drug addicted.
Like I said, most people will go to a legal prostitute who doesn’t need a John if it were legal. But then it’s probably expensive too. I bet these women are cheap.

I don’t think you will ever stop a black market. If there is a demand you will find criminals willing to break the law. So there is no silver bullet.

If it were legal and guys knew how tinder works they could go on and swipe right on girls who are in their 20s. Those gils can selectively pick the guys they are willing to meet for a date. Just like a real date. Then if they agree he should be able to legally exchange $100 for sex. Or whatever dollar amount she feels she is worth.

So if tinder prostitution were legal then every guy who wanted a hooker would go there. But it’s not legal. Still a lot of guys and girls use it this way.

Tinder single handedly took thousands of prostitutes off the streets. If you want to get more off the streets make tinder legal and we’ll known that’s how you find hookers. And guys should report any women who seem like they are being trafficked. It would be like calling child protective services.
Legalization is the only “silver bullet”. Like in Patong. It’s all “at will” employment, and capitalism based. Bars try to retain the best Mamasans. Theses mamasans try to get the best deals for their girls at which ever bar they work out of. In turn the girls decide which mamasan they want to work for depending on location, and the deal the mamasan has worked out with a given bar. If the bar dries up, or a better deal is offered by a different Mamasan. The girls move on to that bar, working for that mamasan. It’s completely voluntary. And the girls are free to come (should they accept the terms that a given mamasan has worked out with a bar); or go as they please.

The vast majority of the girls and women in Patong speak the language. Sometimes they are sold by their own families to brothels.
Who here is a Christian and also thinks prostitution should be legal?
 
It’s New York City’s Grand Central of illicit sex.

A tiny Queens block has become a booming hotbed of hookers operating out of at least eight Chinese massage parlors, The Post found.

The slim strip of 40th Road in Flushing’s Chinatown, just a short walk from Citi Field, has become a 24/7 destination for sex-seeking horndogs from all over the metro area, as “masseuses” brazenly compete for johns on the narrow sidewalks.

One former NYC crimefighter said he hasn’t seen such a dense concentration of flesh factories in years.

Non-Asian men are specifically targeted by the Chinese pimps, working girls and spotters who steer customers into storefront spaces or second-floor “spas” for hour-long encounters.

It’s the same block where a prostitute committed suicide in 2017 by leaping from a building as she was about to be arrested during a NYPD sting.
https://nypost.com/2019/02/02/inside-queens-hidden-sex-district/

Looks like sex trafficking to me. Any particular reason the do-gooders are ignoring this?
They need to legalize prostitution. If it were easy, safe and legal pimps would lose their power and customers.

Do you know what has killed street walking? Tinder and smartphones. Now a girl can go selectively find her stable of customers from her living room

There would still be sex traffickers but it would be for freaks who want to abuse and rape women. Or minors. Or boys. But most guys like the little Asians you described just want to fuck a hot American and they have $200 to spend. Or $1000

Think Amsterdam
I’m not sure Amsterdam is the best example. Lots of Eastern European girls are still being “held virtually captive” by pimps who hold their passports, and get them drug addicted.
Like I said, most people will go to a legal prostitute who doesn’t need a John if it were legal. But then it’s probably expensive too. I bet these women are cheap.

I don’t think you will ever stop a black market. If there is a demand you will find criminals willing to break the law. So there is no silver bullet.

If it were legal and guys knew how tinder works they could go on and swipe right on girls who are in their 20s. Those gils can selectively pick the guys they are willing to meet for a date. Just like a real date. Then if they agree he should be able to legally exchange $100 for sex. Or whatever dollar amount she feels she is worth.

So if tinder prostitution were legal then every guy who wanted a hooker would go there. But it’s not legal. Still a lot of guys and girls use it this way.

Tinder single handedly took thousands of prostitutes off the streets. If you want to get more off the streets make tinder legal and we’ll known that’s how you find hookers. And guys should report any women who seem like they are being trafficked. It would be like calling child protective services.
Legalization is the only “silver bullet”. Like in Patong. It’s all “at will” employment, and capitalism based. Bars try to retain the best Mamasans. Theses mamasans try to get the best deals for their girls at which ever bar they work out of. In turn the girls decide which mamasan they want to work for depending on location, and the deal the mamasan has worked out with a given bar. If the bar dries up, or a better deal is offered by a different Mamasan. The girls move on to that bar, working for that mamasan. It’s completely voluntary. And the girls are free to come (should they accept the terms that a given mamasan has worked out with a bar); or go as they please.

The vast majority of the girls and women in Patong speak the language. Sometimes they are sold by their own families to brothels.
“Sometimes”..? Sometimes describes virtually anything. And therefore nothing at all. Any such instances, as you describe (without any evidence to support it mind you) would be so low in count as to be irrelevant in the grand scheme of things. Just because you imagine you know how it works... Doesn’t mean you do. How many times have you been to Thailand? How many Thai do you know? How many Thai girls have you talked to?
It’s like anything else; you can cherry pick the most extreme, and negative example of any given thing; and try to sell it as an average representation of the whole. We see it all the time in this politics forum. But as is often the case. The reality on average conflicts in stark contrast to the example offered by detractors. Such is politics...
 
It’s New York City’s Grand Central of illicit sex.

A tiny Queens block has become a booming hotbed of hookers operating out of at least eight Chinese massage parlors, The Post found.

The slim strip of 40th Road in Flushing’s Chinatown, just a short walk from Citi Field, has become a 24/7 destination for sex-seeking horndogs from all over the metro area, as “masseuses” brazenly compete for johns on the narrow sidewalks.

One former NYC crimefighter said he hasn’t seen such a dense concentration of flesh factories in years.

Non-Asian men are specifically targeted by the Chinese pimps, working girls and spotters who steer customers into storefront spaces or second-floor “spas” for hour-long encounters.

It’s the same block where a prostitute committed suicide in 2017 by leaping from a building as she was about to be arrested during a NYPD sting.
https://nypost.com/2019/02/02/inside-queens-hidden-sex-district/

Looks like sex trafficking to me. Any particular reason the do-gooders are ignoring this?

I only comment here because for some reason I read the long story on that prostitute who jumped from her 3rd story apartment window when the police were coming to arrest her. Except I read the New York Times account which was very lengthy but told a sad story of a well meaning but troubled woman and her family.
As far as prostitution goes, how easily can that lust drug be eradicated from our society? Like alcohol and pot. I am all for breaking the necks of human sex trafficking and I think more could and needs to be done there.
 
I’m not sure Amsterdam is the best example. Lots of Eastern European girls are still being “held virtually captive” by pimps who hold their passports, and get them drug addicted.
Like I said, most people will go to a legal prostitute who doesn’t need a John if it were legal. But then it’s probably expensive too. I bet these women are cheap.

I don’t think you will ever stop a black market. If there is a demand you will find criminals willing to break the law. So there is no silver bullet.

If it were legal and guys knew how tinder works they could go on and swipe right on girls who are in their 20s. Those gils can selectively pick the guys they are willing to meet for a date. Just like a real date. Then if they agree he should be able to legally exchange $100 for sex. Or whatever dollar amount she feels she is worth.

So if tinder prostitution were legal then every guy who wanted a hooker would go there. But it’s not legal. Still a lot of guys and girls use it this way.

Tinder single handedly took thousands of prostitutes off the streets. If you want to get more off the streets make tinder legal and we’ll known that’s how you find hookers. And guys should report any women who seem like they are being trafficked. It would be like calling child protective services.
Legalization is the only “silver bullet”. Like in Patong. It’s all “at will” employment, and capitalism based. Bars try to retain the best Mamasans. Theses mamasans try to get the best deals for their girls at which ever bar they work out of. In turn the girls decide which mamasan they want to work for depending on location, and the deal the mamasan has worked out with a given bar. If the bar dries up, or a better deal is offered by a different Mamasan. The girls move on to that bar, working for that mamasan. It’s completely voluntary. And the girls are free to come (should they accept the terms that a given mamasan has worked out with a bar); or go as they please.
When I say there is no silver bullet it’s because even if you legalize it there will still be guys who want minors or to be rough with women. So there will always be a small black market.

The world will always have bad guys. For example our solution doesn’t help members of nambla
Of course Ashlie’s, and scumbags, are going to asshole, and scumbag. And these people will still be pursued, and prosecuted. Legalized prostitutes would be your best snitches and informers for ferreting such miscreants out.
Are you calling me an asshole and scumbag?
If youre a woman abuser or pedophile (which is whom I was referring to, with the assholes, and scumbag reference)then yes. But you don’t strike me as the type.
 
It’s New York City’s Grand Central of illicit sex.

A tiny Queens block has become a booming hotbed of hookers operating out of at least eight Chinese massage parlors, The Post found.

The slim strip of 40th Road in Flushing’s Chinatown, just a short walk from Citi Field, has become a 24/7 destination for sex-seeking horndogs from all over the metro area, as “masseuses” brazenly compete for johns on the narrow sidewalks.

One former NYC crimefighter said he hasn’t seen such a dense concentration of flesh factories in years.

Non-Asian men are specifically targeted by the Chinese pimps, working girls and spotters who steer customers into storefront spaces or second-floor “spas” for hour-long encounters.

It’s the same block where a prostitute committed suicide in 2017 by leaping from a building as she was about to be arrested during a NYPD sting.
https://nypost.com/2019/02/02/inside-queens-hidden-sex-district/

Looks like sex trafficking to me. Any particular reason the do-gooders are ignoring this?
Why does it look like trafficing.

Granted it could be and some prostitutes are the victims of trafficing

Some, but not most. This could well be voluntary prostitution. While it is still illegal the smartest thing to do would be to legalize it.
 
Their bodies, their choice... Decriminalize it; and you cut out seedy underworld aspects of prostitution, that gives it such a bad rap. Especially cuts out the human trafficking, for which illegal prostitution is mostly driven by...

That would make perfect sense in dealing with English speaking prostitutes that engage in it. I seriously doubt these prostitutes speak English well enough. What this means is that they can be threatened in all kinds of ways by what will happen to them if they are caught or if they leave.
In a legalized setting; these English speaking girls would be “competing” with these trafficked girls. The capitalistic nature of people in general would prompt the English speaking to expose their illegal competitors. In short order there would be little to no market for them. They’d be run out by honest workers...

NIMBY---that's why. But, no. they would not be run out. Hell, that was the same rational used for Colorado but it didn't do anything to the black market because you get more for less (including potency).
Potency!? You’re kidding right? You do of course realize the exorbitant cost of business in illegal prostitution vs legalized would run them out in short order. Pay offs. Enforcement. Having to provide for “their girls” constant maitainence of secrecy, Importation costs, and risks. Human traffickers simply could not turn a profit against openly practicing, voluntary, legal girls...
I would never go to them if I could go to a legal place. They would lose my business.
That just it. They would lose all business. No one is going to risk getting involved in something so risky, when the legal alternative is closer at hand, with better choices, and no having to look over your shoulder. Traffickers would be out of business in short order. Free girls are going to offer better, more, and cheaper, than any “slave” ever could...
 
That would make perfect sense in dealing with English speaking prostitutes that engage in it. I seriously doubt these prostitutes speak English well enough. What this means is that they can be threatened in all kinds of ways by what will happen to them if they are caught or if they leave.
In a legalized setting; these English speaking girls would be “competing” with these trafficked girls. The capitalistic nature of people in general would prompt the English speaking to expose their illegal competitors. In short order there would be little to no market for them. They’d be run out by honest workers...

NIMBY---that's why. But, no. they would not be run out. Hell, that was the same rational used for Colorado but it didn't do anything to the black market because you get more for less (including potency).
Potency!? You’re kidding right? You do of course realize the exorbitant cost of business in illegal prostitution vs legalized would run them out in short order. Pay offs. Enforcement. Having to provide for “their girls” constant maitainence of secrecy, Importation costs, and risks. Human traffickers simply could not turn a profit against openly practicing, voluntary, legal girls...
I would never go to them if I could go to a legal place. They would lose my business.
That just it. They would lose all business. No one is going to risk getting involved in something so risky, when the legal alternative is closer at hand, with better choices, and no having to look over your shoulder. Traffickers would be out of business in short order. Free girls are going to offer better, more, and cheaper, than any “slave” ever could...
I will admit I met a few 20 year olds on tinder. I’m 48. When they got in the car I kept looking around for Chris hanson to come running out.
 
It’s New York City’s Grand Central of illicit sex.

A tiny Queens block has become a booming hotbed of hookers operating out of at least eight Chinese massage parlors, The Post found.

The slim strip of 40th Road in Flushing’s Chinatown, just a short walk from Citi Field, has become a 24/7 destination for sex-seeking horndogs from all over the metro area, as “masseuses” brazenly compete for johns on the narrow sidewalks.

One former NYC crimefighter said he hasn’t seen such a dense concentration of flesh factories in years.

Non-Asian men are specifically targeted by the Chinese pimps, working girls and spotters who steer customers into storefront spaces or second-floor “spas” for hour-long encounters.

It’s the same block where a prostitute committed suicide in 2017 by leaping from a building as she was about to be arrested during a NYPD sting.
https://nypost.com/2019/02/02/inside-queens-hidden-sex-district/

Looks like sex trafficking to me. Any particular reason the do-gooders are ignoring this?
Why does it look like trafficing.

Granted it could be and some prostitutes are the victims of trafficing

Some, but not most. This could well be voluntary prostitution. While it is still illegal the smartest thing to do would be to legalize it.
Seems like almost all of us agree legalizing it would be smart.
 
It’s New York City’s Grand Central of illicit sex.

A tiny Queens block has become a booming hotbed of hookers operating out of at least eight Chinese massage parlors, The Post found.

The slim strip of 40th Road in Flushing’s Chinatown, just a short walk from Citi Field, has become a 24/7 destination for sex-seeking horndogs from all over the metro area, as “masseuses” brazenly compete for johns on the narrow sidewalks.

One former NYC crimefighter said he hasn’t seen such a dense concentration of flesh factories in years.

Non-Asian men are specifically targeted by the Chinese pimps, working girls and spotters who steer customers into storefront spaces or second-floor “spas” for hour-long encounters.

It’s the same block where a prostitute committed suicide in 2017 by leaping from a building as she was about to be arrested during a NYPD sting.
https://nypost.com/2019/02/02/inside-queens-hidden-sex-district/

Looks like sex trafficking to me. Any particular reason the do-gooders are ignoring this?
Why does it look like trafficing.

Granted it could be and some prostitutes are the victims of trafficing

Some, but not most. This could well be voluntary prostitution. While it is still illegal the smartest thing to do would be to legalize it.
Seems like almost all of us agree legalizing it would be smart.
It would be the safest thing for the women...
 
That would make perfect sense in dealing with English speaking prostitutes that engage in it. I seriously doubt these prostitutes speak English well enough. What this means is that they can be threatened in all kinds of ways by what will happen to them if they are caught or if they leave.
In a legalized setting; these English speaking girls would be “competing” with these trafficked girls. The capitalistic nature of people in general would prompt the English speaking to expose their illegal competitors. In short order there would be little to no market for them. They’d be run out by honest workers...

NIMBY---that's why. But, no. they would not be run out. Hell, that was the same rational used for Colorado but it didn't do anything to the black market because you get more for less (including potency).
Potency!? You’re kidding right? You do of course realize the exorbitant cost of business in illegal prostitution vs legalized would run them out in short order. Pay offs. Enforcement. Having to provide for “their girls” constant maitainence of secrecy, Importation costs, and risks. Human traffickers simply could not turn a profit against openly practicing, voluntary, legal girls...
I would never go to them if I could go to a legal place. They would lose my business.
That just it. They would lose all business. No one is going to risk getting involved in something so risky, when the legal alternative is closer at hand, with better choices, and no having to look over your shoulder. Traffickers would be out of business in short order. Free girls are going to offer better, more, and cheaper, than any “slave” ever could...
I’m constantly complaining about the gap between the rich and poor widening. This is a solution to this. There are thousands of poor 20 somethings out there who are too lazy to come clean my place for $100 but they would come over and give me sex for $100. And there are thousands of rich guys who would be willing to pay but don’t want to be on to catch a predator.

I’d rather be the one coming over to give me sex actually. A lot easier than cleaning my place. Lol

This takes rich men’s disposable income and gives it to poor women who need it.

And very low overhead. They don’t have to manufacture anything to provide their service. The product is your vagina.
 
In a legalized setting; these English speaking girls would be “competing” with these trafficked girls. The capitalistic nature of people in general would prompt the English speaking to expose their illegal competitors. In short order there would be little to no market for them. They’d be run out by honest workers...

NIMBY---that's why. But, no. they would not be run out. Hell, that was the same rational used for Colorado but it didn't do anything to the black market because you get more for less (including potency).
Potency!? You’re kidding right? You do of course realize the exorbitant cost of business in illegal prostitution vs legalized would run them out in short order. Pay offs. Enforcement. Having to provide for “their girls” constant maitainence of secrecy, Importation costs, and risks. Human traffickers simply could not turn a profit against openly practicing, voluntary, legal girls...
I would never go to them if I could go to a legal place. They would lose my business.
That just it. They would lose all business. No one is going to risk getting involved in something so risky, when the legal alternative is closer at hand, with better choices, and no having to look over your shoulder. Traffickers would be out of business in short order. Free girls are going to offer better, more, and cheaper, than any “slave” ever could...
I’m constantly complaining about the gap between the rich and poor widening. This is a solution to this. There are thousands of poor 20 somethings out there who are too lazy to come clean my place for $100 but they would come over and give me sex for $100. And there are thousands of rich guys who would be willing to pay but don’t want to be on to catch a predator.

I’d rather be the one coming over to give me sex actually. A lot easier than cleaning my place. Lol

This takes rich men’s disposable income and gives it to poor women who need it.

And very low overhead. They don’t have to manufacture anything to provide their service. The product is your vagina.
Yup. In a legal setting; a young pretty woman can write their own ticket. Us men... We still gotta work for it. One way or another. But if we were to be honest; the resistance to legalized prostitution have much less to do with women’s safety than it does, with American women losing leverage over men in general.
 
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That would make perfect sense in dealing with English speaking prostitutes that engage in it. I seriously doubt these prostitutes speak English well enough. What this means is that they can be threatened in all kinds of ways by what will happen to them if they are caught or if they leave.
In a legalized setting; these English speaking girls would be “competing” with these trafficked girls. The capitalistic nature of people in general would prompt the English speaking to expose their illegal competitors. In short order there would be little to no market for them. They’d be run out by honest workers...

NIMBY---that's why. But, no. they would not be run out. Hell, that was the same rational used for Colorado but it didn't do anything to the black market because you get more for less (including potency).
Potency!? You’re kidding right? You do of course realize the exorbitant cost of business in illegal prostitution vs legalized would run them out in short order. Pay offs. Enforcement. Having to provide for “their girls” constant maitainence of secrecy, Importation costs, and risks. Human traffickers simply could not turn a profit against openly practicing, voluntary, legal girls...

Ya, you know, laced? Or just plain old marijuana that is cheaper because of taxes....

The exorbitant cost of legal prostitution would ensure that it would continue.
The two are incomparable. One is a material good. The other is a service. That’s an apples to chainsaws comparison. There is no correlation one can possibly draw between the two...

I think they are absolutely comparable. We are currently speaking of them in a dehumanizing manner.
 
It’s New York City’s Grand Central of illicit sex.

A tiny Queens block has become a booming hotbed of hookers operating out of at least eight Chinese massage parlors, The Post found.

The slim strip of 40th Road in Flushing’s Chinatown, just a short walk from Citi Field, has become a 24/7 destination for sex-seeking horndogs from all over the metro area, as “masseuses” brazenly compete for johns on the narrow sidewalks.

One former NYC crimefighter said he hasn’t seen such a dense concentration of flesh factories in years.

Non-Asian men are specifically targeted by the Chinese pimps, working girls and spotters who steer customers into storefront spaces or second-floor “spas” for hour-long encounters.

It’s the same block where a prostitute committed suicide in 2017 by leaping from a building as she was about to be arrested during a NYPD sting.
https://nypost.com/2019/02/02/inside-queens-hidden-sex-district/

Looks like sex trafficking to me. Any particular reason the do-gooders are ignoring this?
Why does it look like trafficing.

Granted it could be and some prostitutes are the victims of trafficing

Some, but not most. This could well be voluntary prostitution. While it is still illegal the smartest thing to do would be to legalize it.
I watched a movie that showed how easily someone can be kidnapped, drugged and put in chains and then suddenly you find it hard to escape your captors.

Traffik I believe was the name of the movie. It showed the experience from the person being held captive. Even if you scream help in a gas station is anyone going to help? People look at them like low life scum. Little do they know six months ago they were normal and free.

We have to remember too these are little girls.
 

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