DGS49
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- Apr 12, 2012
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The Big News from the Middle East this morning is that a group of Sunni military insurgents has overtaken the national government infrastructure in the northern city of Mosul. The group claiming responsibility is, "The Islamic State of Iraq and Syria." In short, it looks like the national government that the U.S. tried so long and hard to establish will not be able to govern this "country" in the way that we had hoped. Indeed, the "country" may not be governable, given the mentality of the opposing forces.
Not surprisingly, the Fourth Estate and the Democrat Party are basically taking the position that this - along with anything else that ever happens badly in "Iraq" - is Bush43's fault.
The Democrat politicians who voted to authorize the use of force to depose Saddam either ignore their votes or, like the Next President of The United States, publicly proclaim that their votes were "mistakes."
But this is total Anti-American bullshit. We deposed Saddam because he was a Bad Actor who was daily taking actions that were destabilizing the region, threatening Israel, either accumulating or pretending to accumulate weapons of mass destruction, and just generally causing trouble. We were assured by Iraqi ex-pats that an overthrow of Saddam's minority government would be welcomed by the People of Iraq, who would quickly establish a democratic or quasi-democratic government with whom we could work productively in the future.
We never wanted or intended to take over the country. We spent scores of billions of dollars in rebuilding their damaged and obsolete infrastructure, poured billions in to try to prop up their fledgeling economy, and sacrificed thousands of American and allied lives FOR NO PERSONAL BENEFIT. We had absolutely NOTHING TO GAIN by this military adventure; it was ENTIRELY for the benefit of the Iraqi people and others in the region who were threatened by Saddam's actions.
Americans who claimed that somehow it was "all about oil" have no explanation of EXACTLY how this would work - because it is stupid thing to say or believe. AT BEST, Iraq oil revenues would have gone to partially repay some of the "investment" we made there, but few people with any knowledge of the situation expected this ever to happen.
From the moment that Saddam was overthrown, the BLOODSHED IS ENTIRELY ON THE HANDS OF THE IRAQI PEOPLE THEMSELVES. WE didn't invite them to kill each other, bomb each other, destroy the neighborhoods of those with whom they had theological differences; that's all on them. We didn't go over there to kill anybody. We would gladly have laid down our arms and spent five years doing nothing but rebuilding roads, bridges, schools, and hospitals - and were prepared to do just that. THEY fucked it up, not us.
And every interview I've heard today about this develpment in Mosul is trying to blame even this latest bit of insanity on the U.S., and particularly on George W. Bush.
Anti-Americanism at its finest.
Not surprisingly, the Fourth Estate and the Democrat Party are basically taking the position that this - along with anything else that ever happens badly in "Iraq" - is Bush43's fault.
The Democrat politicians who voted to authorize the use of force to depose Saddam either ignore their votes or, like the Next President of The United States, publicly proclaim that their votes were "mistakes."
But this is total Anti-American bullshit. We deposed Saddam because he was a Bad Actor who was daily taking actions that were destabilizing the region, threatening Israel, either accumulating or pretending to accumulate weapons of mass destruction, and just generally causing trouble. We were assured by Iraqi ex-pats that an overthrow of Saddam's minority government would be welcomed by the People of Iraq, who would quickly establish a democratic or quasi-democratic government with whom we could work productively in the future.
We never wanted or intended to take over the country. We spent scores of billions of dollars in rebuilding their damaged and obsolete infrastructure, poured billions in to try to prop up their fledgeling economy, and sacrificed thousands of American and allied lives FOR NO PERSONAL BENEFIT. We had absolutely NOTHING TO GAIN by this military adventure; it was ENTIRELY for the benefit of the Iraqi people and others in the region who were threatened by Saddam's actions.
Americans who claimed that somehow it was "all about oil" have no explanation of EXACTLY how this would work - because it is stupid thing to say or believe. AT BEST, Iraq oil revenues would have gone to partially repay some of the "investment" we made there, but few people with any knowledge of the situation expected this ever to happen.
From the moment that Saddam was overthrown, the BLOODSHED IS ENTIRELY ON THE HANDS OF THE IRAQI PEOPLE THEMSELVES. WE didn't invite them to kill each other, bomb each other, destroy the neighborhoods of those with whom they had theological differences; that's all on them. We didn't go over there to kill anybody. We would gladly have laid down our arms and spent five years doing nothing but rebuilding roads, bridges, schools, and hospitals - and were prepared to do just that. THEY fucked it up, not us.
And every interview I've heard today about this develpment in Mosul is trying to blame even this latest bit of insanity on the U.S., and particularly on George W. Bush.
Anti-Americanism at its finest.
